OPEN 663: STACK THE DECK (GAME OVER)


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Post Post #625 (ISO) » Tue Jan 03, 2017 11:19 pm

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Oh shit messed that post up, move 'nah I don't think so' outside the quote
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Post Post #626 (ISO) » Tue Jan 03, 2017 11:21 pm

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Ah indignation seems real
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Post Post #627 (ISO) » Tue Jan 03, 2017 11:30 pm

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Yeah it seems like really a great play to get into the game, decide you wanna tunnel your partner for no particular reason instead of choosing a safe target and try to blend in with deadline slowly approaching and risk getting both players lynched as the only viable wagons wtf I'm a much better scum player than that, don't insult me
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Post Post #628 (ISO) » Wed Jan 04, 2017 12:31 am

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VOTE: AntiHuman

This is L1
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Post Post #629 (ISO) » Wed Jan 04, 2017 12:32 am

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I think your attack on TB relied on very shaky reasoning, and this reasoning has been verging on scummy, especially when you link TB and Alisae.
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Post Post #630 (ISO) » Wed Jan 04, 2017 12:34 am

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Your attacks on TB have been desperaye
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Post Post #631 (ISO) » Wed Jan 04, 2017 1:11 am

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In post 100, Dunnstral wrote:ok. Now unvote me.
In post 576, Alisae wrote:Also yeah AH I also think his reads are wierd as fuck. Can't put my finger on it. Maybe because we have super similar reads and I am very uncomfortable with that.
ThinkBig's? Can you elaborate
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Post Post #632 (ISO) » Wed Jan 04, 2017 1:15 am

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In post 610, ThinkBig wrote:
In post 606, Superhans wrote:Or better way of phrasing question:
if AH IS scum, who would you guess could be his scum partner,
If AH is scum, my guess would be Gamma.
If AH is town, then desperado is most likely the traitor.
So when AH flips you're not apprehensive of a TB wagon forming?
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Post Post #633 (ISO) » Wed Jan 04, 2017 1:18 am

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In post 627, Antihuman wrote:Yeah it seems like really a great play to get into the game, decide you wanna tunnel your partner for no particular reason instead of choosing a safe target and try to blend in with deadline slowly approaching and risk getting both players lynched as the only viable wagons wtf I'm a much better scum player than that, don't insult me
Your Town play has been weak too... Why wouldn't you play as badly as scum? If you flip town and TB isn't scum, who would you go for and why?
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Post Post #634 (ISO) » Wed Jan 04, 2017 2:53 am

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No need for useless speculation, I will flip town and TB will flip scum. Feel free to hammer.
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Post Post #635 (ISO) » Wed Jan 04, 2017 4:43 am

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In post 634, Antihuman wrote:No need for useless speculation, I will flip town and TB will flip scum. Feel free to hammer.
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Post Post #636 (ISO) » Wed Jan 04, 2017 4:53 am

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In post 516, ThinkBig wrote:@Desperado: AH was and still is my biggest SR. the reason I switched my vote was to provide pressure for dunnestral. He hasn't really been contributing and buddies in an anti-town kind of way. Thus my vote is for pressure. I'll certainly switch my vote back at a later time. This is simply my play style.

P-edit: Accusations and analysis of buddying and budding is best done after a flip. That is just my opinion. One doesn't necessarily follow the other.
In post 524, ThinkBig wrote:
In post 523, Superhans wrote:Voting ThinkBig mainly for being on, and creating the AntiHuman wagon.

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Antihuman ( 4 ) - (Gamma Emerald, ThinkBig, Desperado, ssbm_Kyouko) <The AntiHuman wagon. You've unvoted and placed vote on Dunnstral, but you're claiming that you're very much still ON this wagon, if you get what I mean.
No, I don't get what you mean. When did I claim I was still on his wagon after voting for dunnestral?
See the quote above. You didn't specifically say you were still on his wagon, but you were happy to go back there at a later date.

That in my eyes is you happy enough to go from a wagon that you are attempting to create that isn't going anywhere, to Antihuman. It's good as being on it.
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Post Post #637 (ISO) » Wed Jan 04, 2017 4:59 am

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In post 606, Superhans wrote:Or better way of phrasing question:
if AH IS scum, who would you guess could be his scum partner,
if TB IS scum, who would you guess could be his scum partner,
if Both turn out to be town, who would you guess could be scum?
Then it would be time to reevaluate the game. And look at the bigger picture because if both flip town, we're down on numbers greatly.

Myself I'd rather a flip of either one that gives us the most information. And if one flips scum, we can then try work out his partners. Right now trying to work out partners on what if's is just WIFOM and stupid.
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Post Post #638 (ISO) » Wed Jan 04, 2017 5:07 am

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In post 612, ssbm_Kyouko wrote:AH what's your opinion on Gamma's vote on Desperado, and Desperado's sudden swap from voting Gamma to you?

Gamma voted Desperado, if Gamma is scum he wouldn't start the cw on his partner
Desperado swapped to Antihuman, might make sesnse
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Gamma is scum, AH is town, and Desp is traitor.
AH wagon would also be cw to scum in this case.
Question is: Does Gamma have any plausible scumbuddies besides AH? Desperado is out unless he's traitor, so we'd need 1 more (or 2 if he's not the traitor).
Let's assume scum aren't going to hard bus their teammate in the middle of D1, so we look for a partner that wasn't on the Gamma wagon at it's apex
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DAY 1 VC 005


Gamma Emerald ( 5 ) -
(Superhans, ThinkBig, Realeo, Desperado, Kop)
Realeo ( 3 ) -
(ssbm_Kyouko, algebra, Secret Agent Jin)
Desperado ( 2 ) -
(ReubenWasFine, Gamma Emerald)
Secret Agent Jin ( 1 ) -
(davesaz)

Not Voting ( 1 ) -
(Dunnstral)

Seven to lynch.
(expired on 2017-01-05 01:30:02) remain until deadline.

Seeking a replacement for ReubenWasFine.
Kyouko - conftown to myself
algebra - conftown
RWF/AH - We're assuming this slot is the town cw to scum for this exercise

SAJ/Alisae - was not on the Gamma wagon but when he comes in he discredits AH case and soon after Gamma joins him in picking apart AH case to start a new wagon on AH. Replaces out. Alisae Says he doesn't like TB but soon after catching up a bit more says he doesn't like AH's push and votes AH. AH could be the counter to Gamma if Alisae and Gamma are buds
davesaz - Comes in to catch up to a 5 person Gamma wagon with a very flat reaction. Possibly measured response to scumpartner's wagon. His next post looks at the gamma wagon for opportunistic votes, says he's still catching up but points to Realeo and Desperado as being similar to Gamma, as if to offer them as alternatives. Dave speculates Gamma is the cw to scum!Desperado. HOWEVER, Dave in 374 has a similar reaction to the popup of AH's wagon, indicating to me he is unaware of either wagon's alignment, unless the team is Gamma/dave/AH
Dunnstral - No reaction to the gamma wagon, is still focusing on her own SR of davesaz. Reads as towny to me.


I'm thinking AH is not very likely to flip scum unless he's teamed with davesaz
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Gamma. Desperado I think is unlikely to be traitor based on the way he got onto the Gamma wagon.
This leaves me with a scumteam speculation of [Gamma, davesaz, Alisae/AH]. Kop could be blind spot scum still. I think Gamma's flip will be most telling because it was both the cw Realeo/Desperado and had it's own cw in the AH wagon.

VOTE: Gamma

Kop do you have scumreads? Noticed a lot of you asking other people about their reads in your ISO and a lot of commenting on questions directed at other players but not much in the way of substance
My reads change all the time as the game progresses on. I don't do scum reads on day one usually, I see the information in posts, and generally push wagons, etc. I work better when there's been flips and I have information that can back my thoughts up.

Right at this point, a lynch on either AH or TB is only going to be beneficial right now because the limelight for the past 10 or so pages with a few random ones thrown in between has been on those 2. Either one is going to give information and isn't going to be one of those policy lynches that isn't going to lead to anywhere.

When it comes to day 2 however, I'd like pressure to be placed on Gamma because I am not seeing a style that I am accustomed to. And I just feel that he is happily going under the radar whilst the war goes on, and If we do lynch AH and he flips scum, then a great deal in me is going to want Gamma lynched. If AH flips town however, that isn't going to stop me wanting pressure on Gamma, I didn't say lynch but I'd like the pressure to get him to talk.
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Post Post #639 (ISO) » Wed Jan 04, 2017 5:11 am

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In post 614, Desperado wrote:
In post 595, Superhans wrote:
In post 592, Desperado wrote:Really don't like AH linking Alisae and ThinkBig like he is. AH-ThinkBig team gaining steam.
Hmm you think ThinkBig would be trying to push his scum partner into a lynch, just to gain town cred? Seems implausible to me.
There's not much point to discussing it in detail at this point but yes, I think AH would replace in as scum and post a BS case on a partner, especially when he's now claiming it wasn't legit to begin with. And I think ThinkBig and AH could see that they might become competing wagons as a result and ramped up the bussing.
This is WIFOM'd to shit.
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Post Post #640 (ISO) » Wed Jan 04, 2017 5:13 am

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Kop who do you want to lynch?
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Post Post #641 (ISO) » Wed Jan 04, 2017 5:18 am

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We will learn information in either AH or TB right now.

We have our suspects that could be scum, but right now it'll be a uphill battle to get them lynched or build a case for them to answer too.

So right at this minute, either AH or TB, then go from there.
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Post Post #642 (ISO) » Wed Jan 04, 2017 5:22 am

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R u gonna vote on either TB or AH?
(Obvs can't vote AH rn)
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Post Post #643 (ISO) » Wed Jan 04, 2017 5:23 am

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Like out of AH and TB who would you want to see lynched?
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Post Post #644 (ISO) » Wed Jan 04, 2017 6:15 am

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I do not agree with the common assessment of AH's entrance. I think he ISO'd the people on the biggest wagon and posted a legitimate case on one of them as a form of catchup.
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Post Post #645 (ISO) » Wed Jan 04, 2017 6:16 am

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I still think Desperado would be the best lynch.
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Post Post #646 (ISO) » Wed Jan 04, 2017 6:27 am

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@Davesaz,
Based soley on the fact that MariaR crumbed traitor?
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Post Post #647 (ISO) » Wed Jan 04, 2017 6:27 am

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In post 609, grapes wrote:
DAY 1 VC 009


Antihuman ( 5 ) -
(Gamma Emerald, Desperado, ssbm_Kyouko, ThinkBig, Alisae)
ThinkBig ( 3 ) -
(Antihuman, Superhans, Realeo)
Desperado ( 2 ) -
(Dunnstral, davesaz)
Realeo ( 1 ) -
(algebra)

Not Voting ( 1 ) -
(Kop)

Seven to lynch.
(expired on 2017-01-05 01:30:02) remain until deadline.

Prodding Kop and Gamma Emerald.
Let me know if the VC is incorrect for some reason.

No deadline extension.
Desperado could be another good shout for a lynch, but I don't think we'd get the votes in the 12 hours remaining. I wouldn't like to chase down that avenue on account of getting the votes required, and everyone aggreeing.

Voting TB which is what I was hoping to go down, but again, are we going to get the 4 votes and 4 agreed votes in time? I don't want to end this day on a no lynch.
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Post Post #648 (ISO) » Wed Jan 04, 2017 6:54 am

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I'm tied between TB and AH. Why are you leaning more to scum reading AH?
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Post Post #649 (ISO) » Wed Jan 04, 2017 6:55 am

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I mean to TB sleepy
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