Code Geass Mafia (Game Over?!)

[Crystalline Dagger]

Mod, is there a mistake in the VC? Three votes on us but two names.

No mod error happened.

YOURE USING YOUR LIE-COLOUR. FIX YOUR ERROR MOD.

PainBringer (3): Leonshade, KainTepes

LOLOL J/K.

CLEARLY LEONSHADE JUST SLIPPED HIS DOUBLE POWERVOTE

ALSO, HAIL ALPACA.

VOTE DRONE

I really don't care what kind of bonus you get for hammering (scum or town).
Take part in this game.

THE ONLY BONUS I GET IS THE BONUSPOINTS TO MY EMOTIONAL STATE AND GENERAL HAPPYNESS.

HAMMERING YOU WILL MAKE CHRISTMAS A GOOD TIME, REGARDLESS OF WHETHER IT SNOWS.

ILL ONLY VOTE TO HAMMER.

WHATCHA GONNA DO ABOUT IT STORMTROOPER?

Actor confirmed yay.
VOTE: Drone
Do not defy the Kain Tepes.
~GE

[Crystalline Dagger]

The fuck are you people doing. This is stupid and everyone knows it.
VOTE: Vecna
This guy is the root of the chaos. He's likely trying to kick up a fuss so his scumbuddies can comment on the crap and be relevant while doing jack shit.
~GE

[Crystalline Dagger]

PLEDGE LOYALTY TO PAINBRINGER

Enjoy your last day in thread, ciao

Are you a backstabber-type person?

[Crystalline Dagger]

~GE

[Crystalline Dagger]

PLEDGE LOYALTY TO PAINBRINGER

Enjoy your last day in thread, ciao

what?

Im pretty sure Kraska just killed you, Pain. That what it seemed like.

~Jin~

[Crystalline Dagger]

Distracting from what exactly?

The Kain tepes posts?

The valiant D1 scumhunting effort?

Rb's trolling?

Distracting from actually sorting alignments, by creating noise/filler
BTW this head will likely be VERY BEETLEJUICY
~GE

[Crystalline Dagger]

Also I'm a noble, wazzup

~GE

[Crystalline Dagger]

You are now my designated bodyguard.

How entertaining.

BAHAHAHA
CHEEKY MOTHERFUCKER
YOU ARE YOUR BODYGUARD AND YOURSELF AT THE SAME TIME

[Crystalline Dagger]

~GE
SAJ ain't know jack bout what I'm saying

[Crystalline Dagger]

kraska wasn't Death Note such a great game
~GE

[Crystalline Dagger]

The fuck is up with Drone
~GE

[Crystalline Dagger]

ok i need you all to go and read the post of RANDOMMIDGET, he is just lurking his way out of this one and i am NOT letting him off the hook,, more votes on RMIDNIGHTGET............

lol RMidnightGet
sure
VOTE: ramdomidget

[Crystalline Dagger]

There are 2 people who I can say with confidence are scum when they give low content.

Titus and ABR.

I have yet to be proven wrong.

ABR's done low volume as Town.

This being a holiday week I wouldn't look too hard at anyone's post count.

ABR isn't in this game. It wasn't important.

And I didn't say I was looking too hard at it. Besides, the games been up how long? Yeah, not worth commenting on.

PEdit: Well, not every game, although the percentage of games I hate is drastically increasing recently.

Why are you such a mean antisocial person
~GE

[Crystalline Dagger]

and this is why titus is the shittest fucking player on the face of the earth, along with mathblade

"this 1 time some scum suggested policy lynching me"
"rb suggested policy lynching me"
"ergo, rb is scum"

if u cant see whats wrong with that just fucking wow. wow. wow.

WOOWOWOWEOAWOWOWOWOP

HOW THE FUCK DID MATHBLADE GET INTO THIS CONVO?
~GE

[Crystalline Dagger]

Kid, watch yourself. Her logic may be faulty, but it doesn't call for that kind of slander.

it really, really does because i can't actually play a single fucking theme game without having Titus tunnel me for some fucking SHIT reason, and people listen to her because this one time in a galaxy far, far away they saw her solve a game and it was cool. and so they eat up this shitty logic and i actually have to waste time arguing over the fucking DUMBEST SHIT

Then don't play games with her.

i dont think thats the solution when i have literally no issues with other players on the site except for her, and my problem with her isnt unique to me.

tl;dr - her logic is fucking stupid and Painbringer needs death

Yo don't hate on the Moon Walker
~GE

[Crystalline Dagger]

why are the rest of us nobles in a hood then but for you?

And it's a total coincidence that our suggested hood size is one person short?

You'll have to ask the Mod about that. She did say the game will be screwy.

I am a noble and I don't have hood access
This is a major problem.
~GE

[Crystalline Dagger]

@CD - I dunno. It's probably because I've got nigh-crimpling social anxiety, combined with a hero complex and an ego that not even Charlie Sheen can match and enough teenage angst to make a goth band call a therapist.

Welk as long as you're not hating people for no reason I don't really mind, you seem to have a lot on your plate
~GE

[Crystalline Dagger]

I understand being busy and not having time for MS but there are two people behind RR, i would think that one would have time to read the game. Personally, it seems to be a way to deflect looks on them and give RR time before they look suspicious for not posting.

Taking this to the bank as a soft flavorclaim of LeLouch vi Brittania

Also is anyone else watching the show? I'm on episode 11 rn it's still pretty good

I am on Ep. 7 and it's awesome so far

~Jin~

[Crystalline Dagger]

I understand being busy and not having time for MS but there are two people behind RR, i would think that one would have time to read the game. Personally, it seems to be a way to deflect looks on them and give RR time before they look suspicious for not posting.

Taking this to the bank as a soft flavorclaim of LeLouch vi Brittania

Also is anyone else watching the show? I'm on episode 11 rn it's still pretty good

I am on Ep. 7 and it's awesome so far

~Jin~

Lol. No one in this game is less likely than us to use a ploy like that.

But you just keep on believing! I have faith in you.

And yes, Code Geass is awesome. So awesome that last time I was in a upick that didn't have limits I chose to be lelouch.

And my role was appropriately overpowered.
-Cerb

This is of course my first game with you so i dont know your playstyle, if this is true then i will retract my statement against you.

~Jin~

[Crystalline Dagger]

I know painbringer's thoughts on Keyrb but what is your thoughts on the hydra DS?

[Crystalline Dagger]

That was

~Jin~

[Crystalline Dagger]

ARE YOU FUCKING KIDDING ME
DID WE JUST GET HIT WITH A FAKEGOD DANCE GAME MECHANIC
~GE

[Crystalline Dagger]

Don't you TR Vecna?
I'd suggest pairing with a TR tbh
~GE

[Crystalline Dagger]

Blue

, I guess. Done independently FYI.
~GE

[Crystalline Dagger]

And behind all of this is Danny the jailkeeper, without geass or knightmare, whose protection will never affect anyone if theyre using or targeted by a Geass or knightmare power.

me irl

I think a few people can sympathize with Danny like "ill just be over here smiling". Not everyone can be thr protagonist in anime, some of us are just background people.

[Crystalline Dagger]

Replace me

Sorry frozen, this game looks like fun and has been fun so far but

I'm gonna stop playing mafia, mafias not for me, it upsets me too much. And life's hectic as of late and mafias a time sink

(i think im leaving the site in general too. So Pm me if u guys would like to keep in touch ^_^)

See you Kraska, i hope you have success in what you choose to do in.your future. Good luck and godspeed!

By Grabthar's hammer, by the suns of Worvan, you shall be avenged!

~Jin~

[Crystalline Dagger]

*Waits patiently for painbringer to steal my hat*

[Crystalline Dagger]

*Waits patiently for painbringer to steal my hat*

pretty sure you would suicide dating us.

Would i love to be your lover? Of course!

Would i choose to kill you if i die? No, you seem pro-town to me and that would be counter productive.

How would pairing with me help you? Well i am convinced you are town and pairing with me ensures that you live. I will not issue the suicide pact so you dont risk dying because i did.

Why not just stick with no pair? I have no answer here, i just want senpai to notice me.

~Jin~

[Crystalline Dagger]

McMeeno is a blue hat and only pink hats can steal, blue hats accept or run away.

[Crystalline Dagger]

Indeed. It was proclaimed in the announcement quite clearly. Did you miss that?

That was towards PB's post about McMeeno grabbing their hat.

[Crystalline Dagger]

Indeed. It was proclaimed in the announcement quite clearly. Did you miss that?

That was towards PB's post about McMeeno grabbing their hat.

Sorry!
My indeed was in agreement with you, the rest was at PB. I should really work on the phrasing and segmentation of my posts.

Oh lol, i was the one that mistook that post, sorry i thought you were directing it at me

~Jin~

[Crystalline Dagger]

I believe most people chose their hats publicly Ari.

~Jin~

[Crystalline Dagger]

Since you brought the soft to towns attention, what was your end game with revealing that KT might be Kallen?

[Crystalline Dagger]

Frozen, is this game based on just the flavor of the first season or R2 also?

[Crystalline Dagger]

Caught up. I stated this earlier but we are a noble too (with no nobility hood access so idk wtf is up with that).
~GE

[Crystalline Dagger]

You know what, a lover PT of 4 people sounds p sweet. I'll see if SAJ is online to discuss, but I'll most likely accept.
~GE

[Crystalline Dagger]

Did Titus claim to have no knowledge of flavor but then reveal flavor which is strongly indicative of the event?
Looks like a wiki dive is in order.

No. They said the flavor of the event confirms they triggered it.

[Crystalline Dagger]

~GE

[Crystalline Dagger]

You townread culted because...they defended you?
~GE

[Crystalline Dagger]

Drone seems to be fluff posting a lot.
~GE

[Crystalline Dagger]

IIRC PB stated the hood was not specifically a nobles hood. The title they stated doesn't really give that impression.
~GE

[Crystalline Dagger]

hold the fuck up
~GE

[Crystalline Dagger]

Shirley : Leo! tell me ... Zero ... He fights for the weak doesn't he? Then ... why did he kill my father?

Vote Count 1.17

randomidget (7): Vecna, Crystalline Dagger, Klingoncelt, culted, Leonshade, KainTepes
Reasonably Rational (3): Drone, PainBringer, malpascp
PainBringer (2): DarkInnocence, McMenno
Vecna (2): davesaz, DiamondSentinel
keyXrb (1): Aristophanes
Aristophanes (1): ssbm_Kyouko
DiamondSentinel (1): keyXrb

Not Voting (3): BTD6_maker, Reasonably Rational, randomidget

With 19 players alive it takes 10 votes to lynch.
Day 1 / Cupid Day ends in (expired on 2017-01-06 16:25:36)

Note: Klingoncelt is VLA till jan 2nd.
BTD6_maker is VLA from dec 26th till jan 5th.
malpascp is VLA till dec 28th.

I will start the prod functions again in about 24 hours.

C.C. :In their heart, everyone has faith that their victory exists. However, in the face of time and destiny, the act of faith is fruitless and fleeting at best.

Vote Count 1.18

randomidget (5): Vecna, Crystalline Dagger, culted, Leonshade
PainBringer (5): DarkInnocence, McMenno, davesaz, Aristophanes, Klingoncelt
Reasonably Rational (3): Drone, PainBringer, malpascp
Vecna (1): DiamondSentinel
Aristophanes (1): ssbm_Kyouko
DiamondSentinel (1): keyXrb
BTD6_maker (1): KainTepes

Not Voting (3): BTD6_maker, Reasonably Rational, randomidget

With 19 players alive it takes 10 votes to lynch.
Day 1 / Cupid Day ends in (expired on 2017-01-06 16:25:36)

Note: Klingoncelt is VLA till jan 2nd.
BTD6_maker is VLA from dec 26th till jan 5th.
malpascp is VLA till dec 28th.

I will start sending prods in few hours.

Klingon and KT: get the fuck back on randomidget NOW.

[Crystalline Dagger]

hold the fuck up
~GE

K
You only worried cuz you lovers now?

No I'm doing VCA you fuckface
~GE and ^

[Crystalline Dagger]

hold the fuck up
~GE

K
You only worried cuz you lovers now?

No I'm doing VCA you fuckface
~GE and ^

Do VCA when scumslot is deadslot tbh.

Vote randomidget then.

[Crystalline Dagger]

PB is a counterwagon to obvscum rando
I'm not voting PB anytime soon
~GE and above

[Crystalline Dagger]

My guess is the game is NOT matched with the flavor in terms of nobles
~GE

[Crystalline Dagger]

Well who the fuck is lying about flavor then, as they need rope at some point.
~GE

[Crystalline Dagger]

hold the fuck up
~GE

K
You only worried cuz you lovers now?

No I'm doing VCA you fuckface
~GE and ^

Ouch, right in the feels

Oh wait, I don't care

Why are they town by VCA?

PB is a counterwagon to obvscum rando
I'm not voting PB anytime soon
~GE and above

[Crystalline Dagger]

K,why is randomidget s u m than?

Also,I didn't even notice they were in this game....

Inconsistent reads
Look at the ISO of randomidget, look at his Leon read progression.

[Crystalline Dagger]

~GE

[Crystalline Dagger]

Whoever is talking in keyXrb needs to SHUT THE FUCK UP. You are talking out of your ass currently.
~GE

[Crystalline Dagger]

Seriously, you put WAY TOO MUCH credit in flavor reliability.
~GE

[Crystalline Dagger]

Seriously, you put WAY TOO MUCH credit in flavor reliability.
~GE

i also put credit in the fact that there's been multiple lies from painbringer throughout the game and reporterperson is likely to be the same alignment as their love interest

Yeah you can fuck off with that association. I was a town single target BG for a scum player by flavor once.

[Crystalline Dagger]

Seriously, you put WAY TOO MUCH credit in flavor reliability.
~GE

i also put credit in the fact that there's been multiple lies from painbringer throughout the game and reporterperson is likely to be the same alignment as their love interest

Yeah you can fuck off with that association. I was a town single target BG for a scum player by flavor once.

~GE, but I would be surprised if anyone thought this was Jin

[Crystalline Dagger]

dave, vote randomidget.

[Crystalline Dagger]

Everyone else here too
~GE and above

[Crystalline Dagger]

Lol rb. We're not voting painbringer on your problems with titus.

-Key

I'd expect that shitty play from keyen, but not from rb. rb!town is a lot like me where when he gets down to scum hunting he can find at least one fairly well. This play is horrible.
~GE

[Crystalline Dagger]

But anyways. KC said that you and her couldn't be town together because you're scum. While I'm not as convinced as she is (Don't get me wrong. I'm scumreading you), I do believe that one of you are town and the other is scum.

Therefore, a 1v1 is in order.

This is fake. I don't think DS can be scum with Klingoncelt or PB currently.
Speaking of which, Klingon's vote feels fake as shit.
VOTE: Klingoncelt
I'm more confident in this than rando atm.
~GE

[Crystalline Dagger]

Prodge and a note that I will try to catch up
~GE

[Crystalline Dagger]

'this is fake' is a pretty strong statement to make when you still think a player can't be scum due to a different read, Gamma.

Pardon?
~GE

[Crystalline Dagger]

But anyways. KC said that you and her couldn't be town together because you're scum. While I'm not as convinced as she is (Don't get me wrong. I'm scumreading you), I do believe that one of you are town and the other is scum.

Therefore, a 1v1 is in order.

This is fake. I don't think DS can be scum with Klingoncelt or PB currently.
Speaking of which, Klingon's vote feels fake as shit.
VOTE: Klingoncelt
I'm more confident in this than rando atm.
~GE

RR, do you see the problem here?

I had two thoughts I threw together into one post here. It looks a bit contradictory now that I look objectively. I wanted to say:
If DS is scum PB and KC are not with him
Klingon is scummy
But the ideas seem to have meshed into bullshit.

[Crystalline Dagger]

I understand scumreads based on that post, but would like to state the thoughts are not contradicting each other, as they are based on different pieces of analysis.
~GE

[Crystalline Dagger]

VOTE: Not Chara

I'm following things through to the conclusions. I'll go step by step though because the alignments of RR, DS, and CD should make themselves a bit clearer with this push. I've gotten into bad bad fights with Grandma before, sometimes when I expect to much in terms of logical consistency from her. When she's logically inconsistent in favor of scum, I tend to jump to she IS scum when that's not always the case. Grandma isn't displaying the personality tells like with Suikoden that would be similar to her being scum, but she's spouting enough gibberish where I can't put her as clear yet.

~Titus

I'm pushing mainly because it looks like KC is just pushing a ML from how the vote stuck after the logic was disproven (unless my timeline is wrong)
~GE

[Crystalline Dagger]

But anyways. KC said that you and her couldn't be town together because you're scum. While I'm not as convinced as she is (Don't get me wrong. I'm scumreading you), I do believe that one of you are town and the other is scum.

Therefore, a 1v1 is in order.

This is fake. I don't think DS can be scum with Klingoncelt or PB currently.
Speaking of which, Klingon's vote feels fake as shit.
VOTE: Klingoncelt
I'm more confident in this than rando atm.
~GE

Given that fake generally means scum, and you think they're both fake, then how can you come to the conclusion they can't be scum together?

I think at least one is scum.

[Crystalline Dagger]

Change that to ONLY one
~GE

[Crystalline Dagger]

Right.

Contradiction 1: Gamma calls DS fake, yet in the same post he's voting Klingon who "feels fake". (RR)
Contradiction 2: Gamma argues that DS is being fake with his dichotomy, but says that DS cannot be scum with either one. (Dave)
Contradiction 3: Gamma says that someone who is fake, cannot be scum with the person that feels fake. (Titus)

The most logical conclusion to draw with this is that Gamma has some alternative reason not to want to vote DS. That reason is either DS is town and pushing a dichotomy that Gamma likes or DS is scum and Gamma would like to focus elsewhere. Both of these lead to the impression that Klingon (Grandma) is town.

p-edit: I am sorry Dave. I'll try to limit calling Klingon by her nickname for awhile.

I felt DS was town and just wrong at that point. I still felt like the false dichotomy needed to be noted.
~GE

[Crystalline Dagger]

That Gamme post is horrible.

VOTE: Crystalline Dagger

I'm willing to let them live to allow Painbringer to keep them hostage, but only if we don't find a better lynch for today.

You want to keep me alive if no other lynches pop up?
What?
~GE

[Crystalline Dagger]

But you described it as fake, where if you had a TR there I'd expect you to say it was wrong or misguided.

Okay, that's just word choice. It's like pushing someone for referring to scum as "goons". rb understands what I'm talking about (or not since he doesn't remember that game actually).
~GE

[Crystalline Dagger]

That Gamme post is horrible.

Welcome to gamma every game.

Don't try to act like you know me

[Crystalline Dagger]

Klingoncelt - Scummy. (Between Lean Scum and Probable Scum). Posts like 332 are very difficult to read. On one hand, Klingoncelt is attacking a known thread to her early, trying to get in before I can post. (See Suikoden) On the other hand, Grandma should know I'd be all over that kind of posting as town. The laughing at Vecna feels rather forced too in 334. Klingon tested to see if their vote worked by voting random. They planned on moving to rb once the verification came in their vote worked, but nothing. Where is the follow through? They haven't come back since the whole noble hood thing was explained. Yet, why didn't they push this back when I voted them? Why did they wait until I was a wagon? Christmas holidays does mess with this a bit, but I expect more from them if town.

Goddamn you, Titus do not EVER imagine that you can get inside my head. You have no fucking clue what I plan.

My vote for Random was real, though likely misguided because he's Scumread in lots of games. Low-hanging fruit.

My vote on you was real too until I remembered Fire's habit if shit-claiming.

I have a read that's pretty accurate. Nearly every time someone does this they're Scum. It's when a player says another player's reads/comments are "forced" or "fake."
Also when a player goes out of their way to Scumread someone that's V/LA, they're likely Scum themselves.
Also when they put out a readslist that is so generic it could have been written before the game started, they're likely Scum.

VOTE: Painbringer

Votes here please ^

I'd like to put in my thoughts here.
The post looks like a lot of "these are things scum does yadayadayada" without much extrapolation of the theories.

[Crystalline Dagger]

~GE
I can qoute an instance of that if necessary btw

[Crystalline Dagger]

Crystaline Dagger is town you should get back on kling.

i agree, i have no idea what my hydra buddy is doing.

Crystaline Dagger is town you should get back on kling.

Why?

Sign your posts more please
~GE

[Crystalline Dagger]

But anyways. KC said that you and her couldn't be town together because you're scum. While I'm not as convinced as she is (Don't get me wrong. I'm scumreading you), I do believe that one of you are town and the other is scum.

Therefore, a 1v1 is in order.

This is fake. I don't think DS can be scum with Klingoncelt or PB currently.
Speaking of which, Klingon's vote feels fake as shit.
VOTE: Klingoncelt
I'm more confident in this than rando atm.
~GE

This? It's somewhat scummy but not as bad as half of the people are saying
~Maria

Scummy or scumsided?
~GE

[Crystalline Dagger]

nevermind that, read it wrong
thought they were quoting the post above them, not mine

[Crystalline Dagger]

Crystaline Dagger is town you should get back on kling.

Why?

They're flowing with town waves and making good moves.
I can feel their thoughts flow naturally like the ocean.

Explain how Gamma's post voting Klingon "flows naturally like the ocean".

~T

Explain how Gamma's post voting Klingon "flows naturally like the ocean".

You think it's a buss?

Why do you suggest bussing as the first thing? They're referring to my thought mixup.
~GE

[Crystalline Dagger]

I'm glad you go back to filler posts because you can't admit you're wrong.
~Maria

its a lot more fun making snarky posts rather than "OMG YOU SUCK SO HARD MARIA".

anyways, hows life?

has to be Fire
~GE

[Crystalline Dagger]

Explain how Gamma's post voting Klingon "flows naturally like the ocean".

You think it's a buss?

No. Explain what is natural about voting what "feels fake" over what "is fake".

~T

Okay that's nitpicking. I said DS's suggestion was fake, but it wasn't scummy. Klingon's SR on you is a scummy sort of fake.
~GE

[Crystalline Dagger]

I said you need to be looked at and voted you
No where in that post did I say scum
~Maria

Why do you need to vote me to tell people to look at me?
What's there to look at?

Exactly
~Maria

Nope.

If there's something that you think people should be looking into, it makes no sense to think that there's nothing to look into.

Have I provided the least amount of content? What stands out about me?

Exactly
~Maria

Maria: Exactly
Me: That doesn't make any sense.
Maria: Exactly
Me:You can't just say exactly, there has to be a reason for what you are doing or you are just making up shit as you go
Maria: Exactly
Me: You have no idea what you are doing at all, do you?
Maria: Exactly
Me: (face palm)

I guess I have to spell it out now don't I.
The townreads people have on the culted slot make no sense for anything they've done in this game
No one questioned them about the sr on our slot either just really coasting by for no reason not doing much at all
So when you say "what's there to look at" you really just answered your own question
~Maria

DI feels like town for this. They're doing the "not much content" thing but it's not a reason for a scumread, it's for presssure. I feel scum would try to push the barrenness of culted's ISO as scum indicative.
~GE

[Crystalline Dagger]

But failing that; you've done absolutely nothing town.

smh
~GE

[Crystalline Dagger]

I like the cut if culted's jib - but why you vote Klingoncelt when you say MariaR is scumclaiming?

I'm up for a MariaR lynch but notsomuch Klingoncelt

Klingoncelt is coolbeans for no reason, i just like her

No. DI is town, Klingon is scum.
~GE

[Crystalline Dagger]

I would appreciate it if you guys would stop acting like one specific person sucks. All of us suck at this game. Let's get that straight. Some of us just happen to have luck sometimes. So all of you stop acting like you're great and have a little humility.

Kthanks

I'm fucking fantastic
I always peg scum when I try
That's actually a bunch of horseshit I say when I'm pissed obvscum isn't lynched, I have decent reads but my pushes are not always the best.
~GE

[Crystalline Dagger]

why did you give me examples when you've asked for detail?

I don't understand this question.

I want to know what about the 'interaction' made you hate it. It takes two to tango -- you only dislike one dancer -- you hate the dance.
Doesn't make a lot of sense.

Who do you think is scum?

Culted you type weird stuff. First the waves and now this.
~GE

[Crystalline Dagger]

So.

I somewhat townread CD, although this does shake that a bit. First off, this is just blatantly them throwing out some buzzword to try and seem relevant. I'm not even sure what they are implying I'd gain by faking that statement.

Also, KT, scum could use it to take down their partner if they ever get lynched. So, yeah. That's definitely usable by scum.

A bit late to the party are we?

[Crystalline Dagger]

I'm fairly certain that PB v. KC is TvS. With anyone else, it could be TvT, but since one of them is KC, I almost guarantee that it's TvS. So. I'm in favor of a 1v1 between them.

Wait - because it's me they're arguing with I'm autoScum? That makes no sense. I already posted that the three of us usually wind up Scumreading each other on Day1.

And you decide you'd like to see a 1v1 between us. Hmmm...

If it were just between me and Titus either one could go down. Fire in the hydra with Titus gives them a slight edge, but you aren't all that friendly to Fire, are you?

It looks to me like you don't care which of us gets lynched.

I know that I'm Town (Freedom) and now I'm thinking that maybe Painbringer might be Town. Because you're looking kinda Scummy right now.

UNVOTE:

Okay, look at this. Klingon got scared off his vote by a dichotomy. If he was town and so sure PB was scum he would have stayed on and braved the hate if/when PB flipped town. This reads like "this lynch will incriminate me so I'm gonna back off".
~GE

[Crystalline Dagger]

But anyways. KC said that you and her couldn't be town together because you're scum. While I'm not as convinced as she is (Don't get me wrong. I'm scumreading you), I do believe that one of you are town and the other is scum.

Therefore, a 1v1 is in order.

This is fake. I don't think DS can be scum with Klingoncelt or PB currently.
Speaking of which, Klingon's vote feels fake as shit.
VOTE: Klingoncelt
I'm more confident in this than rando atm.
~GE

VOTE: crystalline dagger

Really
~GE

[Crystalline Dagger]

'this is fake' is a pretty strong statement to make when you still think a player can't be scum due to a different read, Gamma.

Bit curious why you note this NOW.
~GE

[Crystalline Dagger]

@DS, What are you doing to sort us? To sort the rest of the game?

@Leon, feel free to put your vote back when "caught up". I think there's somwthing fishy about the test vote.

I don't know what you mean by sort, but I get my reads by reading the game, and then thinking about what they could be thinking by that. It's a really really simple process. Why do people do what they do?

By sorting, I mean zolving what people might be thinking. You have zero progress towards figuring out which of me/klingon is scum, zero progress on gamma, zero progress on random and leonshade...zero on rb and rr. You're drifting and just posting a theory.

You did follow up a bit at first, but now, nope.

You should know more than anyone that this is my D1 play. You have played multiple games with me. I just present as many possible scenarios I can think of and then figure out which is true later on. I do substantially better mid to endgame than I do early-game.

So I seem to be vindicated in thinking DS did not have evil intent with that dichotomy
~GE

[Crystalline Dagger]

Did GE just talk his slot into near confirmed town status?

No.

GE is near universally scumread, but people do not want to kill me.

I am not universally SRed. I have also explained that I had two thoughts that are fine separately, but when put together look awkward. Is there anything else in that post you quoted you are SRing me for? IIRC you also brought up buddying concerns. I don't know where you get that exactly but I will say I TR you because I don't think you are groupscum with how easy of a push you have been.
~GE

[Crystalline Dagger]

So which is it? You're a passive observer or actively engaged?

P.S. Reaction tests can be golden. I pulled one before that lead to a near flawless victory.

I have also learned a lot from the hat selection.

Tell me, who is scum in pink hats. Blue hats.

Just realized that she could be completely lying about the hat ability, since it wasn't in the lavender/purple color.

ANYWAYS.

Wow, there are a lot more pink than blue hats. I knew there were more, but not that many more.

I can't give you a strict readlist. Half of them I can hardly remember their posts since the game has been filled with the same people posting. But I'll go through and give you a general readlist. I don't feel like giving one based on one side or another.

This is why you take current events into account when catching up: the first sentence is obtuse as hell.

[Crystalline Dagger]

Also my hydra partner seems determined to be quiet.
~GE

[Crystalline Dagger]

11 pages in and the ratio of town-points to scum-points I've given out is scary.

PEdit: The very last post made by Chara, if I remember correctly. The explanation of the votelessness.

Also, I want KT out because out of the 11 pages I've read, most of them have been half full of his shitposting.

What are you doing that seems to be causing this?
~GE

[Crystalline Dagger]

I'm not townreading BTD. I can't remember any of his posts, and I haven't seen any remarkable ones.

Also, with RR, I'm not reading them as scum. I'm reading them as I am with Chara. Either they are town or they are 3P. I doubt they are main-scum

.

Noted
~GE

[Crystalline Dagger]

Reads as of this moment:
Town: DiamondSentinel, Kain Tepes,
Probably Town: Kraska77 (though I hope she suicides in the game), Drone, ssbm_kyuko
Lean Scum: Leaonshade
Scum: keyxrb, klingoncelt (Titus read on that one)

Also, PB, please explain the complete 180 on your read on me and KC

1000 posts and a different head

You should hope drealmerz never joins this game, or he'll kick your ass for this
~GE

[Crystalline Dagger]

BTD6 is now a solid lurk!scum. He claimed V/LA 5 days early, and then proceeded to lurk almost the ENTIRE TIME until the V/LA, when he was able to. He's prodging, and I don't like that. Besides. Regardless of his alignment, I am 100% in support of a PL on this.

Yeah, for some reason BTD can never post as much as he'd like.

[Crystalline Dagger]

At first, I was very very confused. Keyxrb v. Painbringer would be a really really weird scum v. scum dynamic. But then I remembered that's what I did with T-Bone and Elbrin (if I remember correctly) in MGSV and we won a flawless victory. Also, the more keyxrb posts in pages 30-31, the more I realize this looks like general frustration with a scumbuddy, like what I had with pisskop in Cowboy Bebop.

Before I declare loyalty to culted.

Steal culted's hat

I know this seems very weird, but I feel like I will die before they do, somehow.

PEdit: @CD
I'll post the entire stack-up, but I have a chart with everyone in the game. When I read a striking post, I write it up as town, null, or scum. Each post is a point. So a town striking post is a town-point. So on and so forth.

Right now, keyxrb and PB both have 3 scum-points (this is just for incredibly striking posts or strings of posts. I'm not doing it for small things here and there. They just go into tie-breakers, which was why keyxrb was scum with only 1 scumpoint earlier, while the other 3 had 2.)

How do you balance points when someone gets both town and scum points?
~GE

[Crystalline Dagger]

I agree with Gamma that BTD seems to not be available to post as much as he wants to and that makes me wonder if its an attempt to avoid suspicious looks toward him. I also dont like Keyrb's post 1743. It seems like a frustrated blah post in order to convey his town alignment. My only problem with the post is that i think he did that to gain town favor (town get frustrated easy in my experience) and he actually is scum/3p.

~Jin~

[Crystalline Dagger]

@BTD: would you mind explaining your KT vote?
~GE

[Crystalline Dagger]

Yes Kain Tepes filled the game with obvious trolling and sh*tposting but that is Kain Tepes as i have had to realize. I wanted KT gone because of the way he posted but i learned very fast that KT just posts that way. He is of actual use later on in his games, don't let the initial wildness cloud your read on KT.

~Jin~

[Crystalline Dagger]

Yes Kain Tepes filled the game with obvious trolling and sh*tposting but that is Kain Tepes as i have had to realize. I wanted KT gone because of the way he posted but i learned very fast that KT just posts that way. He is of actual use later on in his games, don't let the initial wildness cloud your read on KT.

~Jin~

Which is why I haven't pushed for his lynch.

I mean, you can push it if you want, just dont due it because of his posting style. I would be the first person to due it if i felt he was scummy but that is not the case so it is what it is.

[Crystalline Dagger]

Alright, lets get down to business, we are L-3 so we still have time but i wanted to put some questions out there and some information too. I town read PB, they are Millie and millie in the show (as far as i have got) is aligned with the "town" in this game. That is my reason for asking PB to grab my hat, i wanted to be in a neighborhood with a confirmed player. I have publicly stated that i won't enact the suicide mechanic, we would lose a town slot if i did, thats counter productive. That is neither here or there concerning the reason we are being voted. I cant comment on the Klingon vote as that was Gamma but as a hydra with him, i back him up in what he says. He must have had a reason and im sure he will comment on it. I only have one suggestion for a counter wagon as the only person i would have liked to put forth is Keyrb. They were really active but have calmed down greatly and have became lurky even. I would like to see if they have a reason for being inactive or are just lurking. The only way for that to happen in my eyes is a bit of pressure, that should bring them to the table with conversation or they will remain silent and ultimately not be a positive asset.

Also, please present questions to me and gamma, we cant really defend ourselves unless we have conversations.

UNVOTE:

VOTE: Keyrb

~Jin~

[Crystalline Dagger]

someone EXPLAIN TO KAIN TEPES why the drone should not be VOTED FOR,,

Kain, just a question but you are willing to sheep Drone's vote on us but also vote Drone?

[Crystalline Dagger]

If you feel that you have to vote me then whatever. Meh, i cant really reason with some people on my wagon as they are set in how they are voting. Keep in mind though that nothing will come of the lynch. All i can say is that if im lynched then it will be an interesting end of the day. Geez guys, i dont really think i can rightfully defend what Gamma did with his vote i voted Keyrb because he is my scumread but i never said he was my only read, just the only one i felt comfortable putting forth. Unfortunately, i dont think i can do much defending here because it seems most of the votes on our wagon are due to "just general scumreads" or "gut reads". You would think there would be better reasoning but really i think Keyrb is the only slot to actually have a reason behind their vote and its funny because they are my #1 scumread yet i feel their vote isnt OMGUS or retaliatory, they actually have a full read to back up how they feel. All i am saying is that no one is going to get what they want if im on the lynch block.

Also, i have repeatedly said that i feel PB is near confirmed town due to the flavor of the game and i don't plan on enacting the suicide pact if i am lynched, i rather not cause town to lose an obvious town role. All i ask is that if we reach L-1 then we have time to claim, that is super important that we are granted that. I dont want a bloodbath because someone lolhammered.

~Jin~

[Crystalline Dagger]

Oh right, I forgot about the whole randoms potentially scum when CD flips as scum thing.

NC, only pledge to me if your role is weak! Also....pledges can be done privately, right? Why are people doing it publicly?

-Cerb

when

CD flips as scum? you scumreading them?

Is there a reason for the Leon votes? I see that Chara said "maybe wagon Leon" and then her voice, vecna, voted Leon and so did Diamond. Whats the reasoning behind the vote though? I rather not vote Leon unless there is a convincing reason/read.

~Jin~

[Crystalline Dagger]

Is it just me or did RR say he was going to lie about being conftown with someone and then say "that might not work because i might be third party scum when i flip".

Did i just not understand what he wrote or does this make no sense to anyone?

~Jin~

[Crystalline Dagger]

Well I have no clue how much game I've missed tbh
~GE

[Crystalline Dagger]

i'm not a fan of Gamma's posting. i thought they could be town for that strange voting-Klingon contradiction, but the way they responded to talks and accusations regarding it was scummy.

Diamond is more of gut read. i don't see a need for scum to start theorizing about 3p while making other content (it never looks that good, and is null behaviour at best). plus, i'm a non-threatening 3p if that, so there's little reason for scum to be concerned about me

besides that i was just townreading him earlier due to the way he's explained his thoughts and been consistent on how he came to them.

thanks for the questions.

How was I scummy? Is it because I ACTUALLY UNDERSTOOD what the problem was? Because if so you're either a complete idiot or scum.

[Crystalline Dagger]

~GE obv

[Crystalline Dagger]

SCUM IS TWO OF BELOW::

DIAMOND SENTINEL,, BTDMAPPER,, DRONE,, RANDOM MIDGET

Kain tepes is ALWAYS right,,!!!

Well, then BTD and Drone would be scum, because I know for a fact I'm not scum, and I very seriously doubt that randomidget is scum. There's a general trend of unease that follows his posts, but I mostly think that he's a VI. I've yet to see any specific post that screams "scum"

PEdit: Did you read my last post? No. It's not. I'm 2/3 of the way through. I stopped at Page 50 last night before Shadowrun, and I just woke up like an hour ago.

in what way am i a VI? I've committed to very few stances at this point.

You were universally scumread in the first 50 or so pages.

Also, Kain, I interact with everyone as if they were town because there's no use just holding hostility towards people. Nothing comes out of it.

If this is how the game is going to continue, I might as well just replace out because nobody is even trying at this point.

that's lynchbait, not VI.

Hmm. I've typically heard the terms used synonymously.

Actually, no, that's not entirely true. I've been called lynchbait, not VI. So I suppose that's correct. Lynchbait is a better term.

Errata to quoted statement: Random definitely seems like lynchbait to me.

Lynchbait is not the same: IMO lynchbait can be scum. VI cannot. VI is also, by definition, a bit of an idiot. Lynchbait may have good reads but be lynched for whatever reason.
~GE

[Crystalline Dagger]

VOTE: Drone

worst. ISO. ever.

Ew.

[Crystalline Dagger]

~GE

[Crystalline Dagger]

Crystalline Dagger is one fascinating slot.

This is hella vague.
~GE

[Crystalline Dagger]

Let's this to the bonfire;
I'm not the topic.
You're voteless.
Basically, I can completely disregard you and your reads.

But I'm a nice guy, I'm not doing that.

This doesn't feel like town tbh
~GE

[Crystalline Dagger]

But anyways. KC said that you and her couldn't be town together because you're scum. While I'm not as convinced as she is (Don't get me wrong. I'm scumreading you), I do believe that one of you are town and the other is scum.

Therefore, a 1v1 is in order.

This is fake. I don't think DS can be scum with Klingoncelt or PB currently.
Speaking of which, Klingon's vote feels fake as shit.
VOTE: Klingoncelt
I'm more confident in this than rando atm.
~GE

Unlike Sentinel, I do believe in too scummy to be scum.
Why would they as scum go ahead and clearly say "I thin you'll flip town. But let's lynch you anyway".
This is quite WIFOMy, and there's a huge backfire from that.

That's NOT what I'm saying AT ALL.
I'm saying IF DS flips scum KC and PB are very likely not teamed with him. But I TR DS and SR KC.
~GE

[Crystalline Dagger]

I once said something like that.
If X is scum then Y can't be with them. I was scum.
Even then I did it at a mid-late phase of the game.

It did buy me some town points.

I did this one thing as scum in this one game so you HAVE TO BE SCUM DOING IT IN THIS GAME.
stfu
~GE

[Crystalline Dagger]

also CD is leading wagon opposed to Drone, that's interesting.

i think if either one was scum we'd have more support for the opposing one though, unless everyone is just AFK because holidays. i'd actually rather wagon someone else entirely rn

So I'm town but I need death.
~GE

[Crystalline Dagger]

also CD is leading wagon opposed to Drone, that's interesting.

i think if either one was scum we'd have more support for the opposing one though, unless everyone is just AFK because holidays. i'd actually rather wagon someone else entirely rn

I think you're wrong on this.
I think your vote on DS is good though.
I think Drone and your slot are counterwagons to scum CD.

It's tempting to swing over to DS because I don't committ seppuku if right, but I also do not want to break up a wagon on scum.

you're that sure CD is scum?

i really disliked the Gamma head but I honestly can't tell. i always scumread gamma regardless of his alignment so, meh.

i have no real issue with the players on his wagon though

Are you sure about that?
Didn't I AT LEAST slip under your radar in Desperation Day?
Wasn't I a TR of yours in NY198?

[Crystalline Dagger]

I may have to suspend my catch up for now
~GE

[Crystalline Dagger]

Actually that's a bad idea
DL is soon
~GE

[Crystalline Dagger]

UNVOTE:
Because upon consideration rb feels like town: I remember him doing similar things in NY198.

and why do you think i'm 3p?

This clears up a lot of confusion

How?
~GE

[Crystalline Dagger]

If you feel that you have to vote me then whatever. Meh, i cant really reason with some people on my wagon as they are set in how they are voting. Keep in mind though that nothing will come of the lynch.

All i can say is that if im lynched then it will be an interesting end of the day.

Geez guys, i dont really think i can rightfully defend what Gamma did with his vote i voted Keyrb because he is my scumread but i never said he was my only read, just the only one i felt comfortable putting forth. Unfortunately, i dont think i can do much defending here because it seems most of the votes on our wagon are due to "just general scumreads" or "gut reads". You would think there would be better reasoning but really i think Keyrb is the only slot to actually have a reason behind their vote and its funny because they are my #1 scumread yet i feel their vote isnt OMGUS or retaliatory, they actually have a full read to back up how they feel. All i am saying is that no one is going to get what they want if im on the lynch block.

Also, i have repeatedly said that i feel PB is near confirmed town due to the flavor of the game and i don't plan on enacting the suicide pact if i am lynched, i rather not cause town to lose an obvious town role. All i ask is that if we reach L-1 then we have time to claim, that is super important that we are granted that. I dont want a bloodbath because someone lolhammered.

~Jin~

Bolded: super-scummy.

This whole post reeks of caught scum, only reason not to lynch this is to save Painbringer.

Why is it scummy? I give Scout's Honor that PB will not be killed if we are lynched.
~GE

[Crystalline Dagger]

so this is where i'm at currently.

scum: Painbringer, keyXrb, Leonshade [i hate this because they look so, so good as a team, so it can't be real], culted
town: Vecna, Rational, Diamond, KainTepes, Drone, Kyouko, davesaz, Klingon
eh: Crystalline Dagger, mal, BTD, Aristophanes, McMenno, DarkInnocence, random

i'd be happy to discuss any of these. and we can discuss null reads so i can actually get a read there. someone help me read Dagger, Gamma's posting is the type to just make me dislike it by its mere presence.
Diamond is this player i disagree with completely on

every

mechanical level, but i think is town. it's sort of amazing.
Painbringer is one where i'm scumreading both heads, yet Firebringer in particular is not a player i'd consider myself good at reading.

i'm more confident in my townreads than scumreads, but that's par for the course. process of elimination is fun. unhappy with the amount of nulls, since there has to be scum in them.

You are right on culted and Leon.

Cd, ds, culted, random, Leon. Rr, TP/town. Rest town.

?
~GE

[Crystalline Dagger]

VOTE: Drone
I don't think I can drive a lynch currently due to access issues and a realization that I have charisma issues, so instead of vanity voting out of bravado, I'm following on the lowest read wagon.
~GE

[Crystalline Dagger]

Is it just me or did RR say he was going to lie about being conftown with someone and then say "that might not work because i might be third party scum when i flip".

Did i just not understand what he wrote or does this make no sense to anyone?

~Jin~

...

Jin, let's say your role is such that if someone pledges to you, you can confirm that you're town to them, okay?

Got that idea fixed in your mind?

Alright.

Now, at some point I have to confirm that you're town to the game. This happens 100% of the time.

What does me saying that you're conftown to me do to the game when my alignment is an unknown? Nothing. It makes it probable that you're town, but not certain, which means mechanically your slot is still a potential mislynch.

It isn't until I flip as town that your slot becomes conftown.

That's the normal course of things, and it's fairly weak.

In a bastard game, either you or I could have an alignment change at some point, thus negating the confirmation I received, OR making it so when I flip, you remain a potential mislynch.

The other possibility is that when I tell the game that you're conftown per mod communication, you claim that it's because we're masons, thus taking us both off the lynch table. I wasn't suggesting this WOULD happen, merely mentioning it for the sake of thoroughness.

Why is this so confusing for you and klingon?

-Cerb

See, i thought you meant that you would find a conftown and then fakeclaim a mason neighborhood with them to take you both off the radar for lynching but if you were converted midgame it would be null and void because you would flip scum. You cleared it up though, thank you.

~Jin~

[Crystalline Dagger]

oh, and Cerb: regarding what you've been talking about, pledge to me today. i can pinky swear you won't regret it.

pedit: alright. about Gamma's threat... do you find threats scummy? have you played with Gamma before? he's exactly the type to threaten/warn as town, and possibly scum too. and 48 hours is enough to move the wagon, i don't see why a player would fullclaim when they might not even be lynched. it doesn't make them more likely to be scum at all.

That was Jin.
~GE

[Crystalline Dagger]

Welp. I'm now on a vanity wagon. Let's change that.

VOTE: CD I suppose.

You do know Leon is voting us right?
~GE

[Crystalline Dagger]

pedit: alright. about Gamma's threat... do you find threats scummy? have you played with Gamma before? he's exactly the type to threaten/warn as town, and possibly scum too. and 48 hours is enough to move the wagon, i don't see why a player would fullclaim when they might not even be lynched. it doesn't make them more likely to be scum at all.

The Jin thread was the one with the veiled threat. CD doesn't need to fullclaim to claim why lynching them would hurt town.

The threat wasnt me threatening to force PB to die or anything, that would be Super bad if i did. It was more a warning that this is a bastard game and anything is possible, no one is a Saint. It might not even hurt town, i was more warning that we should be given time to claim when we are at L-1 and be hammered with caution.

[Crystalline Dagger]

^~Jin~^

[Crystalline Dagger]

I was considering claiming now tbh.
We are Kaguya Sumeragi, from the nation of Japan. We are aligned with Freedom.
We are a noble, of course. We have the passive ability Royal Execution, where upon our first death, the killer or hammer (it actives on nk or lynch) dies in place of us and does not flip.

[Crystalline Dagger]

BTW we don't die when our ability triggers.

[Crystalline Dagger]

I was considering claiming now tbh.
We are Kaguya Sumeragi, from the nation of Japan. We are aligned with Freedom.
We are a noble, of course. We have the passive ability Royal Execution, where upon our first death, the killer or hammer (it actives on nk or lynch) dies in place of us and does not flip.

Why didn't you only claim that your kill occurred on hammer?

-Cerb

Oh.
As for whether suiciding can trigger the ability, it cannot. If PB forces us to suicide, we die, period.

[Crystalline Dagger]

@Crystalline Dagger:

Could you provide your reads? Both heads together or separately, whichever way you're inclined.

Well if DS is telling the truth about the India origin then i rather not see DS gone.

~Jin~

[Crystalline Dagger]

@Crystalline Dagger:

Could you provide your reads? Both heads together or separately, whichever way you're inclined.

This is my readslist as i would normally talk with GE to gather our reads but we have 13 to day end so i dont have the luxury to get a complete co-op readslist.

Town:
Not Chara - Gut town read, i like the way this slot posts.
PainBringer - Obvious town to me due to their roles actions (Cupid Day). I wouldn't have asked them to PT with us if i didnt have a townread on them.

Town Lean:
DS - I don't want to lynch him if his role PM says India, that is a potentially valuable role
Reasonably Rational - Due to his posts about wanting people to pledge loyalty to him and be a confirmed town block either was a scummy ploy or an attempt to actually make a town block, i am going with the town angle as i think it would be obvious if he did it as scum.
Aristophanes - I didnt like kraska's posts but Ari has came in and been a better player imo. He hasnt done anything scummy but hasnt really done anything that screams town. This is mostly a gut town read.
Vecna - He posted very trolly at the start of the game then gave up fighting once his pushes and ideas were ignored. I am giving him the benefit of the doubt and i will see if he does anything towny/scummy at a later point.
KainTepes - I want to believe his crumbs and townread him but he has gone missing as of late and dont know if he is lurking or if something came up.

Null/No Read:
BTD6_maker
malpascp (is this even a player in this game?)
davesaz
McMenno
ssbm_Kyouko
Leonshade
Darkinnocence (is this slot still around or replaced?)
culted (third person that i didnt know was in this game)

Scum:
Drone - This is all Gamma on this read. I support him in his reads as i wouldnt hydra with him if i didnt expect to support him. I really dont have a read on Leon personally.
keyXrb - scummy, his posts reak of scum to me and he hasnt really contributed to a town win imo. Also, DS made good points that i agree with in his post concerning this slot.

Special Circumstance:
Klingoncelt - I personally dont have a read on her but i guess there was something previously with Gamma that i didnt quite understand why there was a fuss. I read the thread but still dont understand what happened.




I want to say first and foremost that my reads may not be up to par with what everyone wants but that is for two reasons.
1) Reading people is very hard for me in moat games. That is the reason that i am hydraing with different people, i am trying to learn how to read people better. My reads are usually gutreads on D1 unless they do something very scummy or something obvtown.
2) If you have ever played with me then you know that i dont do reads D1. I usually sit back and observe for the majority of D1. I have been trying to do better though, hence my attempt at a readlist. I guarantee that you will see a rise in activity D2 due to the information i can pull from flips.

If you have any questions, i will 100% answer them for you.

Spoiler: A question for learning benefits

Also, pertaining to our role, i tried to crumb it. This is a first for me (dont know if i did it right) so tell me if you noticed it in my previous posts. I am learning about crumbing so this is still a new thing for me.

~Jin~

[Crystalline Dagger]

That doesn't make sense for Kaguya flavor wise.
Nor does it match flavor written.

She is a princess of Japan and later on in the show she is appointed leader of the new free japan. I mean, we have little flavor to go off of in the role pm to make sense of the given abilites but when you have watched the show, it is pretty clear as to why the ability exists. What doesn't match for written flavor? You mean the terrorist attack thing? I assumed this game was multiball given its bastard state so i just gave FA the benefit of the doubt when she wrote the flavor.

As far as the the marianna (is that the right name?), i havent reached that far in the anime. Who is she, i assume the queen given the terrorist attack thing. You said she is against personal freedom? How does marianna line up with our ability in flavor or whatever?

~Jin~

[Crystalline Dagger]

VOTE: CrystallineDagger'

@Painbringer & CrystallineDagger:

Are you two willing to break up? (Talk about a sentence I've never said before...) When people are expressing doubt about lynching a player for the sole reason that a townie might go with him, the lover relationship seems like a hostage situation.

Thing is, we somehow took ssbm's place in their lover PT, so we're with keyxrb now.
But yeah we'd prob do so.
~GE

[Crystalline Dagger]

VOTE: CrystallineDagger'

@Painbringer & CrystallineDagger:

Are you two willing to break up? (Talk about a sentence I've never said before...) When people are expressing doubt about lynching a player for the sole reason that a townie might go with him, the lover relationship seems like a hostage situation.

Thing is, we somehow took ssbm's place in their lover PT, so we're with keyxrb now.
But yeah we'd prob do so.
~GE

So you have two lovers now?

No, the PB PT is closed now, and we are not tied together.
~GE

[Crystalline Dagger]

http://codegeass.wikia.com/wiki/V.V.

^This character is probably the one who Geassed DS.

There is also Lelouch and C..C. that could possibly control but i would imagine they are both in the town faction. Maybe C.C. and V.V. are third party since they are immortal witches, C.C. could also be mafia aligned since its logical to have Charles as the mafia and they go together as far as i know. I really dont know much about C.C. since he was just introduced at the point i am at and the wiki might spoil the anime for me so i didnt look. I guess i am going to have to finish the anime today.

~Jin~

[Crystalline Dagger]

2293 talks about an evil-looking child, which only matches V.V.

I suppose Frozen Angel COULD be misleading with that, but I really doubt it. She could just not post 2293 if she didn't want to reveal that V.V. was the one that Geassed DS.

V.V. or C.C. surely C.C. looks more child like but i get what you mean. It was probably C.C. behind the DS thing. Like you stated before Rakshata has no kill ability in the role PM. I must have missed it bit did DS die from the knightmare exploding or was it something else? If it was not related to the C.C. thing it could be a vig shot or an ability like the personal knight ability in Cornelia's pm.

~Jin~

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No reason not to go full steam with my push, then.

CrystallineDagger switching places with ssbm matches the Geass ability of Marianne vi Britannia exactly. CD's claim is therefore pretty obviously a fakeclaim for Marianne. I will not agree to lynch anyone other than CD today.

See, i know where you are headed with this and let me stop you right there. Even in the lover pt we said to keyrb that we have no idea why we joined the lover pt. We still have our Kaguya role so we didnt take over Kyouko's role. In order to fit into the Marianne flavor wouldnt we have to fully take over everything of Kyouko's? We only took their place in the lover pt, we still have our role, no geass and no knightmare.

~Jin~

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Let me keep repeating what i have been saying and maybe it will sink into someones head.

1) We never switched bodies, we are kaguya.
2) We have zero idea why we switched PTs
3) We didnt fakeclaim, what we claimed happened. We warned everyone to be careful who hammered us.
4) We repeatedly said we WOULD NOT force a PB suicide if we had the chance.
5) I dont think we ever stated the royal execution ability was a geass as it is a mechanic.

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^~Jin~^

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KlingonCelt:

What's your read on CD?

I'm not well able to read either head.

Kyouko died in their place at lynch and CD took over her PT with KeyXrb. CD lost the PT with Painbringer.

Is that alignment indicative? Not really.

Painbringer trusted them enough to swap hats.

If CD is Scum, then PB probably are too. If PB are Town, then CD probably are too.

Except... Painbringer is scumreading CD. I can't remember if PB scumread CD during the hat swapping, but they were pretty clear that they were willing to be, and indeed wanted to be, lovers with scum, so they could force-suicide the scum player if they were NK'd.

And CD's scum motivation for being lovers with Painbringer? So that the threat of the force-suicide would be there, thus dissuading people from vigging or lynching CD unless necessary.

No, the SR came from me supposedly buddying them and my post where I talked about two distinct possibilities and everyone thought I was speaking about one scenario.
Both happened AFTER the swap.
It seems you are trying to reach for reasons to SR us.
VOTE: Leanshade
~GE

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Fact 1: Kyouko hammered CD, in response triggering an ability CD claimed that lead to Kyouko dying without a flip.

Fact 2: CD is now in Kyouko's position in a lover PT with keyXrb.

Leon's conclusion: The two abilities are related, and CD is scum by virtue of lying about his claim. This also coincides with the ability being a perfect flavor match for a Geass ability in the source material.

Alternative possibilities: Someone else has an ability that says "switch a player's PT position with that of a dead player"?

The latter ability makes little sense and matches nothing I can think of in Code Geass. Also note that the game did not start with Lover PTs, they only exist because of Painbringer's ability. If PB hadn't used the ability, the PT thing would be an even worse ability. As such, I don't believe that such an ability exists.

Why does CD's "royal execution" not cause a flip? Because CD takes that person's spot.

Maybe ssbm had some power that forced his killer to take his place in all his PTs, I don't know, the game is bastard.
Yet you try to string it all together into some cause and effect.
~GE

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Gamma head V/LA until tuesday

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ok it's there lol
Has Leonshade stopped stretching to vote us

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Haha, seems we both picked up the prod at the same time. I am semi vla until the 17th but i will try to make posts often.
~Jin~