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Post Post #1050 (ISO) » Wed Jan 04, 2017 3:44 pm

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Oh wow I'm further behind than I first thought. I completely missed the Innocent Child announcement.

I'm going to have to do another big catch-up post after this weekend is over.
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Post Post #1051 (ISO) » Wed Jan 04, 2017 3:55 pm

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In post 1049, Alisae wrote:^Scum pushing lynchbait^
Does your opinion change if we ignore his push on you?
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Post Post #1052 (ISO) » Wed Jan 04, 2017 3:59 pm

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In post 1044, Ircher wrote:
In post 1032, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 713, -Grey- wrote:
In post 710, EchoVision wrote:i like wraith now.
UNVOTE:
VOTE: RB
I can dig it.

UNVOTE:
VOTE: rb
FAIL
I was looking at the mod posts for VC info and noted votes on the IC.
Terrible.
FAIL

Scum post.
Fuck you.
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Post Post #1053 (ISO) » Wed Jan 04, 2017 4:01 pm

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In post 1051, Zachstralkita wrote:
In post 1049, Alisae wrote:^Scum pushing lynchbait^
Does your opinion change if we ignore his push on you?
If it were to be ignored probably not. Plus his first post was LAMIST as hell. His reaction to the thread being around 40 pages comes off as he doesn't want to read the rest of it. Tho this is under the assumption that he's not going to read the rest of this thread, so if he is going to this point is invalid.
If it was not ignored, my townflip would say that it probably doesn't. Not to mention he didn't look good before that post.
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Post Post #1054 (ISO) » Wed Jan 04, 2017 4:02 pm

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In post 1052, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 1044, Ircher wrote:
In post 1032, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 713, -Grey- wrote:
In post 710, EchoVision wrote:i like wraith now.
UNVOTE:
VOTE: RB
I can dig it.

UNVOTE:
VOTE: rb
FAIL
I was looking at the mod posts for VC info and noted votes on the IC.
Terrible.
FAIL

Scum post.
Fuck you.
Cool reaction.
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Post Post #1055 (ISO) » Wed Jan 04, 2017 4:51 pm

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In post 510, Human Sequencer wrote:First read I have after 60 posts is creature kinda scum, Alisae kinda scum and Gin kinda town.
is a strong indicator, this isn't the Creature I know, and his push on Gin/Pine in 28 is eh. Not sure whether it's sarcastic or not tbh.
Alisae is acting kinda weird. Hard to word, will get around to a proper read if it becomes relevant.

Uzi kinda town (78)


what the fuck is this post lmao ahahahahaha

aaaahahahahahhahahahhahahahahahahhahahhahahhahahah


Ircher townpoints.

Notable. Definitely reads like Alisae genuinely standing up for their friend for non-alignment reasons.

sweeet debi plays yugioh <3
i like debi in general
i like too many people in this game tbh

Uzi -really- town as of 118


Alright I hope I'm not the only one who saw this. Wraith intends to imply that Debi is scum, because they have a foreknowledge of the setup (how many scum there are), and then pushes that it's multiball. Correct me if I'm wrong, but if it's multiball, surely scum aren't informed how many other teams there are or how many scum are on those teams, so how would Debi have that foreknowledge? I would waive this as Wraith just making a mistake if he didn't pull the multiball assumption out of his ass-- That implies to me that -he- knows it's multiball. 'Foreknowledge of the setup'.
Debi wasn't even being that serious with the 9/10 split, she said the following:
Debi wrote:So just for the sake of it, lets say we had 10 towns in this game, and 9 scum, it is unlikely but go with it.
And beyond that never even implied that they believed there was multiball. Really suss, strongest scumread as of this post.

The fact that Debi didn't call on that to defend herself gives her massive townpoints, regardless of Wraith's alignment.
Edit:nvm, she did later, but it still wasn't her go-to. I believe that quote only makes sense coming from scumDebi if they left it precisely to call back on it later as an out, and her only mentioning it later reads as if she forgot she put it in at first, re-read her post and realized she could use it to defend herself. The kinda thing town would do.


Holy fuck lynch this
Setup regardless, Alisae and Wraith are scummy af so far.


Holy fuck sheep this

This too


HOLY FUCK LYNCH THIS
m2k wrote:VOTE: Alisae
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feeling a dunn kyouko hs townblock rn tbh

Alisae is like
Really fucking obvscum as of 187
Like fuck, L Y N C H T H I S
It's not just lynchbaity play either, I like to think I have a basic grasp of their personality so far.
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Ally Oop wrote:Wraith is currently gut. He's probably also one of my "gun to my head town" reads.
Alisae Wraith scumteam, slam-dunk lynches lets goooooo


SUPER SCUMMY
Echo wrote:Also, what the hell is single/multiball?
REALLY GOING IN HARD FOR THE DERPCLEAR I SEE


Debi -really town-


@RB
Gin plays kinda lynchbaity. Not paying much attention tot he slot atm, but keep that in mind.


ok everybody agrees with me i guess

nothing happens for a few pages
Pine wrote:I'm 100% okay with an Alisae lynch, even if it's a pretty quick one. I'm recently kind of coming around to the notion that long days, especially D1s, are completely counterproductive, so a lynch of Aliscum with some policy motive peppered in suits me just fine.
I think we'll get along just fine, Pine.


This is the funniest thing I've read all day.

And I'm all caught up.
Alisae -really- scummy. Creature -really- scummy. Wraith kinda scummy.
Any questions?

@RB explain Gin wagon to me?
In post 513, Human Sequencer wrote:rb - idk
Alisae - scummy af
ssbm_Kyouko - townlean, post moar
TheRealGin-N-Tonic - idk
Lil Uzi Vert - town
Gamma Emerald - post moar, likely flake slot tbh
Zachstralkita - literally nothing
Creature - scummy
drealmerz7 - lol
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Pine - towny kinda
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-Grey- - idk
Wraith - scummy af
SlickDilinger - great post my dude
Debi - town af
EchoVision - scummy
Dunnstral - idk can't ever read dunn fuck you
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Post Post #1056 (ISO) » Wed Jan 04, 2017 5:27 pm

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In post 1038, Ircher wrote:
In post 996, TheRealGin-N-Tonic wrote:The top are town, the middle is nulls and the bottom is the scummers
Readslists will be another day, not today, maybe not even this week.

Still, at a glance:

Rb - Confirmed Town
Grey, Zach, Human, Creature - Town

Alisae, Drealm - Null

Debi, Echo - Neutral Leaning Town
Gin, Wraith - Neutral Leaning Scum

Pine, All Alone - Leaning Scum

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Post Post #1057 (ISO) » Wed Jan 04, 2017 5:50 pm

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Post Post #1058 (ISO) » Wed Jan 04, 2017 5:51 pm

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Gamma humor him. It's just a poor child trying to be cool.
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Post Post #1059 (ISO) » Wed Jan 04, 2017 6:03 pm

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In post 1027, All Alone wrote:
In post 1010, TheRealGin-N-Tonic wrote:If AA was a good player, or town, he'd be able to deduce that I thought Alisae was town after I "reread." Ya know, the part where I said I reread it.
This is
exactly
the kind of non-answer I give out when I'm scum and someone catches me giving a bogus read.

Like, YES, obviously I saw the "reread". No duh, Clouseau. But there's still a clear incongruity there:

1) Gin reads the interaction the first time
2) Gin decides Alisae is scummy
3) Gin rereads the interaction
4) ?????
5) NOPE HE'S TOWN NOW

I think if Gin was town, he would have explained step 4 here. When townies backwalk their scumreads, they're usually really, really open about it. What changed? Why? There's not really a good reason to go into teeth-pull mode here, if it's a legitimate reread. But if Gin didn't legitimately reread Alisae, and there is no legitimate step 4, then the best he can do is point to step 3 again and act like that puts him above suspicion. Which is exactly what he did here.
In post 1024, Creature wrote:VOTE: Gamma Emerald

Okay, let's wake this up because he posts elsewhere.
In post 1025, TheRealGin-N-Tonic wrote:VOTE: Gamma

He needs to at least post once and appreciate drunk me's puns
Hi, look at how much I'm helping out the town, by pressure voting someone who's not even aware the thread exists

Green Gem Man's clearly forgotten about this game, seeing how he's already in prod range, and when he gets the prod he'll either post or replace out. These votes won't make any difference. If you'd instead voted me, or drealmerz, or SlickDilinger, it would at least be on somebody who'll read it and react to it. But this? This is just a lazy and useless way to look protown.

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It might be Friday or Saturday, whichever day I actually have free time off work but weekdays I'll admit my content will most likely always be shit. Not gonna stop me from at least making sure I catch up before sleeping.

As for step 4, keep this as a post promise and I'll explain it to you when I can, any other reads and I'll be happy to divulge in but for now, it's my little secret I have to keep.

Although I do have questions about you talking about Gamma.

First off you said he was Green, how do you know his slot is green? There should be no actual basis for you to have any read on him, granted I know the counter argument is that I voted for him when he didn't post anything but honestly, mine is justifiable in consideration that:
1) We got a role PM with game thread attached
2) WE HAD TO CONFIRM OUR ROLE via PM
3) We got a PM saying the game started-

scratch all that, he's back to NAI. I was going to make point 4 be how he was on when the game started but he was gone from Dec 31st to the 2nd of Jan and the game started the 1st.

Regardless, I still want to ask you how you got a green read on gamma?
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Post Post #1060 (ISO) » Wed Jan 04, 2017 6:15 pm

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While you're at it, don't forget why you decided to just naked vote throughout the game. Make sure to not accuse me of not explaining my reads as clear and concise as we want them to be when you literally offer no actual explanation as to why you vote, or unvote.
In post 5, All Alone wrote:Second!

VOTE: Creature
In post 42, All Alone wrote:VOTE: Gin
In post 815, All Alone wrote:VOTE: rb
In post 825, All Alone wrote:I agree with zachstralkita

there

there's my opinion on rb

try and analyze it
In post 861, All Alone wrote:UNVOTE:
In post 914, All Alone wrote:VOTE: Ircher
In post 968, All Alone wrote:UNVOTE:

good lord people can we all stop doing "reaction tests" forever

because now I, for the third fuckin time since I woke up today, have to figure out where I want my vote, AND IT'S PISSING ME OFF
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Post Post #1061 (ISO) » Wed Jan 04, 2017 6:19 pm

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In post 1051, Zachstralkita wrote:
In post 1049, Alisae wrote:^Scum pushing lynchbait^
Does your opinion change if we ignore his push on you?
Could you explain the purpose of this question a bit more for me? Something feels odd about it and I'm trying to figure out if it's just me being silly.
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Post Post #1062 (ISO) » Wed Jan 04, 2017 6:40 pm

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Last question for AA for the night.

Why is it that the only player you've commented on is myself?

You can say this is a tactic trying to get you to focus on other players but me but I only find it scum motivated to target one player and not talk about literally anyone else.



Last thing that struck my mind is were you trying to add emphasis to your scum read on me. You said I think THE GIN AND TONIC is scum.

You've correctly addressed me as Gin (which I prefer thank you) when you first voted me and then when you explain your reads you say it correctly so you saying that was deliberate. I believe it to be a subliminal trick to make anyone that reads it think your post has a higher level of importance; because we you all cap something and the rest is normal, it sticks out like a sore thumb. When you conclude soon after the attention grabber by saying scum, it makes the readers mind read everything in a pretense of scum being the correct answer and it allows the accuser to sway the opinion using subtly.

Of course all that wouldn't have been an issue and would have ignored this if this was a normal behavioral pattern for you but when you don't do anything in the thread, you leave me with the only option of interpreting the evidence in question as the way I see it and because of your lack of action in this thread, I can't check for consistency.

Quite honestly, if you're town, start pumping in work to this thread because you're not helping anyone here.
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Post Post #1063 (ISO) » Wed Jan 04, 2017 7:14 pm

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SlickDilinger has been prodded
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Post Post #1064 (ISO) » Wed Jan 04, 2017 7:17 pm

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Post Post #1065 (ISO) » Wed Jan 04, 2017 8:16 pm

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Thanks for the prod reminder, I’m here.
Only been trying to watch things unfold.
Within this space it seems like there are already lots of strong personalities scum-hunting, so I don’t want to get in the way.
Not planning to change my vote until I’m more confident about it; I like drealmerz7’s work based on seeing more of his analysis and posts, but I don’t often have strong reads during day ones.
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Post Post #1066 (ISO) » Wed Jan 04, 2017 8:19 pm

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In post 1065, SlickDilinger wrote:Thanks for the prod reminder, I’m here.
Only been trying to watch things unfold.
Within this space it seems like there are already lots of strong personalities scum-hunting, so I don’t want to get in the way.
Not planning to change my vote until I’m more confident about it; I like drealmerz7’s work based on seeing more of his analysis and posts, but I don’t often have strong reads during day ones.
Hi
I'm scum
but let's not bring any attention to myself
and let's keep my vote on somene even tho I like their posts.
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Post Post #1067 (ISO) » Wed Jan 04, 2017 8:21 pm

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Hi have a good idea! Why don't we flashwagon this?
VOTE: SlickDilinger
Or someone can do a meta dive real quick, either work for me.
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Post Post #1068 (ISO) » Wed Jan 04, 2017 8:46 pm

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In post 1067, Alisae wrote:Hi have a good idea! Why don't we flashwagon this?
VOTE: SlickDilinger
Or someone can do a meta dive real quick, either work for me.

I'm the ninth person you've laid a vote against on day one.
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Post Post #1069 (ISO) » Wed Jan 04, 2017 8:46 pm

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In post 1068, SlickDilinger wrote:
In post 1067, Alisae wrote:Hi have a good idea! Why don't we flashwagon this?
VOTE: SlickDilinger
Or someone can do a meta dive real quick, either work for me.

I'm the ninth person you've laid a vote against on day one.
Your point?
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Post Post #1070 (ISO) » Wed Jan 04, 2017 8:54 pm

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I know what's SD's getting at but I don't care about that right now.

SD
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Post Post #1071 (ISO) » Wed Jan 04, 2017 8:55 pm

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I did a quick skim of the Newbie games you were in and your play seems drastically different from those two games.
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Post Post #1072 (ISO) » Wed Jan 04, 2017 8:57 pm

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Yeah, just double-checked and those games were from 2014 too :dead:
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Post Post #1073 (ISO) » Wed Jan 04, 2017 9:03 pm

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What were the alignments in those games?
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Post Post #1074 (ISO) » Wed Jan 04, 2017 9:07 pm

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In post 1073, Alisae wrote:What were the alignments in those games?
One scum game and one town game.
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