Mystic Mafia [Endgame]

[Infinity 324]

Staeg, can you give a couple reads with explanations?

[Papa Zito]

You are saying I lied about ISOing you?
That's really your argument?

Well..I

did

ISO you.. and I would have no reason as scum to AVOID ISOing you.
And your ISO is short and meaningless.
AND your argument is ridiculous, and so is your face.

That whole post you just quoted was me trying to drag you INTO this game.. and your whole reaction is you trying to AVOID getting dragged in... but you are anyway!

Furthermore- I wasn't even using any of that post to "push this same bullshit push". I wasn't voting you then, and no vote came with that post. You wanna know the truth?
I actually was going to ruthlessly wagon

anyone you wanted

... I just needed you to actually start pushing a wagon instead of laying around. Your so-called Infinity hate was kitten-hate smoldering all game.. and I was hoping you had

any

kind of fresh look.
There WAS no push on you until you decided a 1v1 was the thing to do... which is gonna be hilarious when Kats wakes up and sees what I did here.

Is mastin in this hydra?

[Papa Zito]

I got distracted by Afterbirth+ launch last night sorry I will read stuff today at lunch.

[Nachomamma8]

Still not scumrrrrreading Spyrrrrrex.

[camntsuki]

Fine then.
My other half is inclined to agree.
But I'm gonna be passed if he flips scum.

(couldn't sleep.)

[Kagami]

That's pretty surprising because I don't think my play here is similar to that other game

Do you want to talk about it?

I don't think the former means much since you would know that game would end early on in this one, and my prior reason for you being town was completely incorrect.

Ok, but do you have a reason to scumread me?

You seem to be saying I could change up my scum game, but where does the initial suspicion come from?

I don't understand what you're trying to do.

[pirate mollie]

Help you're both scum

I like staeg now

[RedCoyote]

I liked the pace we were at... :/

I'm reading now but this is going to be a hell of a wall.

[RedCoyote]

I did not say lurkernacho = scumnacho

[Nacho] is the strongest scum-lurk read I've ever had and it's early D1 so...yerp, no one's going to believe it probably

HUH?

[Kagami]

Who's in the hood?

[pirate mollie]

I did not say lurkernacho = scumnacho

[Nacho] is the strongest scum-lurk read I've ever had and it's early D1 so...yerp, no one's going to believe it probably

HUH?

I missed that.

I am fine with running up dreamz cos the cog-dis is strong, didn't he soft a special or something? I am not sure if this is a playstyle thing but I have strong opinions about players who do that crap and are town. but I am no sure if I wanna deal with another day with the spyrella/camnsuki fight again. I am always up for lynching cupcake cos how does he town read nacho when he says he is not reading the game. and camn's town bloc is awful and from what I have observed of her play she does not make awful posts. <---- I kind of really want to lynch them the more I think about it.

[RedCoyote]

And rc if you think you're the only one who keeps placing sideways suspicion on nahdia well between that and not being able to contextually see i was saying faking a pr doesnt mean scum i dont even know. Christ you were in a game with a faked town pr before.

I'm certainly not the only one suspecting her, but the fact is (or was now) I am the only one voting her. The rest is just talk. So it's quite unfair of you to dismiss any suspicions of Nahdia as "meta" when I hadn't even referenced that at all.

nacho yate

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I think this is what you are seeing as far as us being in sync? cos I am right there also I am liking sad's posts.

Yup. I'm glad you see it, too. I just hope I'm not townreading you because we've got the same opinions as opposed to you actually acting town. Does that make sense?

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Spyrex wagon seems very orthogonal to the lynches that seem more reasonable to me (namely Dunn-Zito-Nahdia axis).

I retract this, especially if nahdia is town.

can you unpack this for me? thnx

I hadn't really noticed 302 until I was reading through RC's posts.

There's bad juju coming from the Dunn-Nahdia duo, but I could see how Spy-Zito could be included in that group, too. That said, I think I'd still prefer lynching one of the two former than the two latter.

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to put it another way, i think your ISO looks like a series of posturing & pivoting and not actually scumhunting.

No, I disagree. It sounds like you're just throwing buzzwords out. What sort of "pivoting" are you referring to?

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I have a little experience with nacho and I am much more inclined to think he made it up than not. Last game I was with him in he fakeclaimed something like a ticking-bomb in his first post to setup a D3 (or was it 4?) lynch on himself saying if we didn't kill him before that we were in trouble sort of shit (he was jester.) details are shakey, ask him for more

plus he missed a rolled R in both of his posts up to this point and there haven't been any apparent penalties. I think nacho just gets a little bored in games and likes to create elements of his own to keep him going, a new postrestriction each Day allows him that sort of freedom - I do think he'd do it as either alignment, but would be more inclined to think he'd do it as scum, especially since he's been rolling scum a LOT and if he got scum this game he probably needs another element to keep his charisma and enthusiasm up and something like that would do it.

As much as I don't want to go down this road, I think you've probably got a lot of truth in here. It would be unfair of me to discount what you're saying, especially the point about Nacho missing some rolled R's. That's particularly damning.

So what do you intend to do about it?

it's 1 slot

it gets 1 read

don't play otherwise

I know, it's just a pet peeve of mine. I like Kat and camn, too, I just don't like playing with hydras. It unnecessarily makes the already difficult game of forum Mafia even more difficult.

first nahdia post I've liked

Explain.

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Nahdia's 413 is better than 386. I get more of an idea about where she's coming from.

Very Jekyll and Hyde, this player.

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if pple are townreading dreamz/nacho they need to speak now other than spyrella.

As much as I hate to admit it, he's right to push on Nacho. No one ever wants Nacho to be scum, but even Nacho sometimes draws a red-colored role.

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I was starting to like drealmerz until 418, now I don't know.

A.K.A. camn's 423 and 427 are on point.

I'm back to not liking Nahdia's 429.

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My initial intention with this day was to ffffflutterrrrrr with a fffffrrrrriend. I haven't fffffound one yet.

Over my head.

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Staeg with good posting in 496 - 499.

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I don't like the "get these votes off now" as substitutions forrrrr rrrrreal rrrrreactions to votes on him.

I think this is a lame reason to dislike Dunn, all things considered. I don't see Dunn as the kind of player who would actively dismiss "real interactions" as scum so transparently just for the sake of it. Either he's town and he's being lackadaisical, or he's scum and he's trying to curate his tone as such.

My point being that the shade thrown on him in 484 is very very shallow and surface level from nacho which... I'm actually not sure how I read that. So I guess pointing it out was kind of needless, but I just had the urge to say it I suppose.

I think Dunn can speak for himself. Nice of you to jump in though.

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Note, once again, I've never said nacho is rock hard town. I've said the reasons are suspect.

What you don't say this game could fill a book.

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Dude zito i dont know how else to push

I am voting cmnsuki cos there is way too much of cupcake and not enough of camn.

Really? Do tell, which do you think have been cupcake and which do you think have been camn, because cupcake has literally been V/La for the greater part of the past week.

if your recourse is to imitate cupcake then we shld lynch you with fire and brimstone cos it will only get worse

The fact that you think you're talking to camn renders the entire basis for you voting for us worthless.

Would you like to explain in proper words why you wanted to lynch us because "cupcake", because that's what you've been spouting for the past few pages yet you've continuously dodged our questions.

Hydras sure are great!

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Ugh Staeg and RC's avatars look so similar I think I have them jumbled up in my head.

We're both town, so it's cool.

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VOTE: Papa Zito

Also, I'd be willing to lynch infinity

Scummy vote; scummy player.

One of Dunn or Nahdia really need to go.

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I'm liking feisty Spyrex.

Eh, anything is better than him being comatose. PZ is right.

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These 1v1s never pan out tho

Protip: If every townie ignores them they'll go away. Smart guys like us would never fall for some emotional, "1v1 ME!!!" nonsens-

VOTE: camntsuki

...oh. :/

[RedCoyote]

Good lynches: Nahdia, Dunn, drealmerz

I can't go with anyone else today. Everyone else is either town or a much worse lynch than those three.

[RedCoyote]

Nacho is the wild card though. I really hate to off Nacho over missing his supposed PR though, which is the only justification I'd have for voting him.

[Papa Zito]

Is the hydra off your list cuz of the 1v1 or is there something else?

[RedCoyote]

Also, I'm going out of town this weekend. I'll keep tabs on my phone to move my vote around accordingly. I probably won't be back until right up at the deadline.

[SpyreX]

My biggest problem with Nahdia is from what I've seen her townplay she plays p... hmm what's the word? Confident? Blunt? Just more of "matter-of-fact" style. Like "X is doing this" "Y is town" "Z is scum". Here she seems to be waffly queen.

Gee how could i think meta was involved

Im just a poor emotional non speaker though

[RedCoyote]

Is the hydra off your list cuz of the 1v1 or is there something else?

No, that's a townread. camn absolutely had the right reactions to drealmerz earlier, before all these hubbub with Spy. I get no scum sense at all from the latest Spy push either. She's rightfully peeved at his lethargy. Spy's retort of, "you didn't REALLY iso me, 1v1 me!" is bush league and unhelpful. It's best to ignore these two until they kiss and make up.

[SpyreX]

And i didn't realize mafia had 0 inference

Because jumping on those quotes from dream is almost as awful as the nacho pr stuff

Must mean were all scum together

[SpyreX]

I'll be parking my vote on camn moving only to power hammer

Figure that's the proper bush league play

[RedCoyote]

My biggest problem with Nahdia is from what I've seen her townplay she plays p... hmm what's the word? Confident? Blunt? Just more of "matter-of-fact" style. Like "X is doing this" "Y is town" "Z is scum". Here she seems to be waffly queen.

Gee how could i think meta was involved

Im just a poor emotional non speaker though

deep breath

Spy, no where did me, myself or I mention meta anywhere at all in regards to Nahdia. Okay? SAD clearly did. I recognize this. Others may have as well. SAD isn't voting Nahdia, however. I've brought up very clear, very concerning connections between Nahdia and Dunn. I've spoke to Nahdia's play in this game re: how scummy it appears. For that, I'd like acknowledgement, if not agreement.

[SpyreX]

Where did i say you were the one who was nadhia meta?
Same place i said nacho is town i suppose.

[SpyreX]

Ohh thats right everyone else talking about her isnt real cause they didn't vote
Now how does that work? Are they actually invisible or when they vote does all the previous stuff become admissible in the court of law?

[RedCoyote]

Will you retract 302?

[Kagami]

VOTE: spyrex