Open 666 - Pick Your Poison - Day 5

[Falco XV]

I'm going to try to read up on this in a little bit. Want to wrap up a Computer Science project.

[Alisae]

@Falco XV Get an avatar.

[A Simple Plan]

How exactly is my logic "borderline awful?" Has the site meta changes so much that scum teams are bussing and self voting in page 9?

I've done so in at least one if not multiple occasions.

Even if both scum bussed for maximum WIFOM, the best they can hope is that we lynch everyone off the wagon first, they don't kill any of the town that was in the wagon, and then they are looking at 5 way LYLO having pushed three mislynch off the wagon through.

Does that sound worth it to you?

... You lost me. Why wouldn't they kill any members of the town that were on the wagon? TBH if scum were on the wagon in any degree, they would pretty much ONLY be killing from on the wagon after your comment because the WIFOM is still there, and the longer town follows your idea that scum couldn't have been on that wagon, the more mislynches they've got to work with. If we stick to that and ONLY consider players not on the wagon, and any scum player is on that wagon, we don't have enough mislynches to spare.

[Alisae]

Even if both scum bussed for maximum WIFOM, the best they can hope is that we lynch everyone off the wagon first, they don't kill any of the town that was in the wagon, and then they are looking at 5 way LYLO having pushed three mislynch off the wagon through.

Few questions.
A. Why are you assuming there are 3 scum?
B. Aren't you trying to lynch outside of the wagon?
C. They kiled Zyf who was on the wagon.

[James3]

Vote Count

Not Voting (5):

ArcAngel9, Gamma Emerald, Lil Uzi Vert, Gendaberry, Desperado

D3f3nd3r (4):

A Simple Plan, Dwlee99, Grey, Hawk

Grey (1):

D3f3nd3r

Desperado (1):

Alisae

With 11 alive, it takes 6 to lynch.

Deadline in: (expired on 2017-01-18 10:30:00)

[Desperado]

A) why am I assuming 3 scum in an Open setup? ........
B) yes, I'm saying hypothetical scum that bussed D1 and would be using the unlikeliness of bussing to lynch from off the wagon would still find themselves in a 5 way LYLO situation at absolute best
C) Zyf was obvtown.

[Hawk]

Well that happened. These shorter than normal activity rules are brutal. I can't have a life! Lol

Welcome Grey and Falco.

Desperado's line of thinking is borderline awful, but I can see where he's trying to come from. I don't like it, but I read it more NAI than scummy. TBH my top picks for a bus were RB/Grey and Genda, but Grey has convinced me otherwise.

Agreed, please do not end the day yet. I like the defender wagon, but I don't want a quicklynch.

311 is sus AF, in regard to complete and total agreement with everything said by multiple players like that. Also don't like such an early L-1, especially when someone had mentioned not five posts earlier an intention of putting the target st L-1, as if hoping for a derp lynch.

It's really not sus unless you agree that your post was equally as suspicious... I mentioned I intended to sheep that vote because I didn't exactly have reasoning to not find those things scummy.

I was not in total and complete agreement with multiple people. I said mostly across the board. I addressed the one person who had been talked about that I disagreed with. I don't think Gamma is a scum lean based off his inactivity. I also don't think it's impossible for scum not to have bussed D1 but I also find your argument for that being the case rather far fetched.

It's far more likely that Scum were not on that wagon seeing as SH self hammered to end conversation. It is most likely he realized he was dead because of a lack of partners on his wagon to unvote and didn't want the day to go on making things potentially worse.

I'm not saying it's not possible it's a schrodinger case. That wagon contains scum and does not contain scum at the same time. Only flips and game end will be a true tell so don't sit there and WIFOM to make sus out of my logic. I was fairly certain no one would hammer this early again and if they did we can look there for lynch tomorrow.

Also welcome Falco.

[Alisae]

A. I had my mind in the mindset of this was a normal game and not an open game. Mybad.
B. OH I understand now.
C. True.

[Falco XV]

@Falco XV Get an avatar.

Ok.

Based off of just like a first reading/skimming/whatever you want to call it, Uzi's pretty scummy. ASP seemed kind of scummy to me up until his last post. Will keep tabs on that.

[Falco XV]

EBWOP I'm going to bed, I'll try to post more tomorrow. Kinda tired, probably won't be able to write much that's even coherent anyway lol

[Gendaberry]

I don't agree with Desperado that there's no scum on the SH wagon, but I want to think it over a bit more tomorrow.

When you do think it over, mind answering this question for me?
Who is bussing?

If anyone Desperado or Hawk I guess? It's less that I think there is scum bussing 100%, more that I don't think everyone on the wagon is clear for being on it. tbh I'm not really used to super early lynches so I'm having a hard time with deciding what to think of it.

[Alisae]

I don't agree with Desperado that there's no scum on the SH wagon, but I want to think it over a bit more tomorrow.

When you do think it over, mind answering this question for me?
Who is bussing?

If anyone Desperado or Hawk I guess? It's less that I think there is scum bussing 100%, more that I don't think everyone on the wagon is clear for being on it. tbh I'm not really used to super early lynches so I'm having a hard time with deciding what to think of it.

Hmm, I think there is bussing on there or else a scum lynch would have not happened 9 pages in.
I also think it could be coming from Hawk.
Desperado is basicly saying "Scum would kill themselves by trying to lynch off the wagon" which makes sense now that I think about it, I still don't like the fact that HE mentioned it.
Either way,

VOTE: ArcAngel9
Cho Cho motherfuckers.

[Hawk]

Why is it coming from me? Honestly if you people who doubt the wagon being majority if not all town are looking for people on the Wagon to lynch then go ahead vote me or Desperado and see how quickly your cognitive dissonance is shattered as I flip green.

Anyway can we get some actual thoughts on some of the quieter players like Gamma and Arc. I'd also like to hear more from Falco but I understand needing to go to bed.

UNVOTE: Defender

going offline for sleep taking my vote with me so I don't get mistakenly called scum for leaving a Vote and then lynching.

[Lil Uzi Vert]

Been treating this day like Day 1 and it's helped me finally get some town reads.

[Alisae]

Because she becomes obv town when she's run up.

[Lil Uzi Vert]

I have no real interest in that wagon but you starting it definitely makes me think you're probably town.

[Gendaberry]

Why is it coming from me? Honestly if you people who doubt the wagon being majority if not all town are looking for people on the Wagon to lynch then go ahead vote me or Desperado and see how quickly your cognitive dissonance is shattered as I flip green.

Wut

I have no clue why you're getting so worked up over this when nobodies even voting you

[Lil Uzi Vert]

I think he feels unnecessarily attacked due to being absent for the majority of Day 1.

[-Grey-]

I'm going to try to read up on this in a little bit. Want to wrap up a Computer Science project.

Rock me Amadeus

[James3]

ArcAngel9 is being replaced for inactivity.

[Lil Uzi Vert]

I can't with this mod.

@Mod:

Replace me.

[James3]

Narna is replacing ArcAngel9.

Lil Uzi Vert has requested replacement.

[Narna]

VOTE: Alisae

because there is no way a game with this many replacements has a winning wagon.

Reading now

[James3]

Transcend is replacing Lil Uzi Vert.

[Transcend]

Alright