In post 12116, grapes wrote:and maybe the inconsistency there could just be attributed to apathy?
Right.
The second-highest post count in the game at nearly a thousand is suffering from a lack of obvtowning from apathy.
The amount of hoops people are jumping through to justify, to explain, to write off RR as town is just mind-boggling.
We're on the right track, though, I believe. One of a50/rr is desperately pocketed town and the other is scum.
Okay. Tell me which of them looks to be playing the part of pocketed town.
And tell me which of them just looks like scum.
Because to me Almost50's stance of "I'd rather lose than lynch RR"? That looks an awful fucking lot like pocketed town.
RR's stances on the other hand, where I have to fight tooth and nail to get anything resembling content? That looks quite a bit like scum.
Cerb at least tried to hear me out (is that scum who knows though).
Literally the towniest thing about them was that, I will agree there. You won't find me disagreeing about Cerb hearing you out and listening and putting in some effort to consider being the towniest thing they have done and even a potential sign they are town. I saw it myself and even acknowledged it.
But while it looks good, so does every other player. (Well, except Shiro to be honest. But that bounces back, once more, to there needing to be two scum left alive, a premise I doubt.)
Fuzzy has the most objective reason of any player to be considered town.
You have strong objective reason to have not started as scum. The only question is whether you would have a role where you had the option of joining scum and decided to do so. I have laid out my reasons for not believing this.
You're right in that it leaves RR/Almost50 left.
Yet Almost50 continues to say he encourages his death and is actively working towards that. He has shown such a level of craziness that I think it's beyond what he's capable of faking as scum. I don't see the scum motive in his actions. Where's his plan? Where's his agenda? What's he hoping to accomplish? I see a player who is being a stubborn ass, but I don't see scum.
In contrast, RR continues to say they should absolutely not be lynched today. Every step of the way, they insist that they cannot be today's lynch. They have shown immense survivalism the whole game. And the kill narrative for the game fits them best of all. The scum have acted in a way which suggests intelligence beyond what I'd think Shadow_step would be capable of, and TWIE died D5 so he couldn't have called all of those shots and doesn't quite fit anyway. Heck Skybird didn't exactly seem like a scum mastermind either. The intelligence with which the scumteam has acted is reminiscent of RR's scumplay. The level of bad pushes and simple wrongness shown is outside of the characteristics I define their towngame by. Most of all, I can see the scum motive in what they have done. I see a scum plan, and a scum agenda attached to all of their moves. Now, seeing doesn't necessarily mean it's true. When I say I see something, it means I have envisioned the possibility of how it could work. To give an example, I have also seen the possibility of the crystal gems being a malevolent third party, yet I obviously don't believe that in spite of having seen it. All the same: that I have a crystal clear picture of why their actions make sense as scum is a very good sign for them actually being...scum.
Why won't you vote a50 today?
Because I don't think the lynch is possible.
Fuzzy would be a town lynch, but is possible.
You would be a town lynch, and are impossible.
Shiro won't be lynched today period.
RR is my preferred lynch and is theoretically possible, thus my current vote: they are my preference.
Almost50 is a townread, albeit more likely to be scum than Fuzzy is, yet is far less likely to be scum than RR. However, it doesn't matter what I think, or what you think. It matters what the rest of the town thinks. MoI is deadset against it. randomidget will follow Magna when push comes to shove. RR is presumably against it.
Short of Almost50 self-voting, Shiro voting, and Fuzzy voting, a lynch on Almost50 simply can't happen for that reason alone.
Thus why I continue to push for a lynch on RR.