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[Creature]

I have my PoE narrowed down to drealmerz7, SlickDinger, All Alone, Gamma Emerald, Pine, Zachstralkita, Dunnstral, ssbm_Kyouko and -Grey-.

[Creature]

Whoever wants to opinate.

[Human Sequencer]

you can put a strike through slick, zach and gamma tbh
probably grey too, not sure yet

i mean slick could be scum i guess but there's no way i'm lynching him today

[Human Sequencer]

no real read on pine yet, but he makes a lot of sense and posts a lot of pro-town information. makes me want to keep him around at least.

[TheRealGin-N-Tonic]

It just feels so fake and forced coming from you, believe me there is so much I want to say but I'm trying my hardest to not bias my thoughts and just think about this game.

It just doesn't feel like a genuine accusation to say someone is scum based off of what you perceive as their town or what you think is fake or not. Like reading emotions off of text is based purely out of PoV and I just don't get how you're willing to vote me if the crux of it is saying I sound fake.

I mean I'm getting confused as hell by these votes.

The ones that make sense are Zach, he's made it clear he isn't having my shit and we've argued about it, but then there is Alisae who got me fucked up right now due to me being one of her stronger TRs and then votes me with ease. Right now Human, the problem I have with your vote is as explained above. Another vote that I think is town motivated is AA because when he did push me, he did it logically and I could see that from his perspective, what I was doing looked scummy.

[Creature]

you can put a strike through slick, zach and gamma tbh
probably grey too, not sure yet

i mean slick could be scum i guess but there's no way i'm lynching him today

Nah, my biggest fear is correctly pointing out scum but then as soon I die town totally forgets about them.

[Creature]

I think it would be ideal to lynch the lurkers early.
1. If we leave them alive and they're scum, town will forget about them.
2. If we leave them alive and they're town, when it's something like MyLo or LyLo, scum has a giant power.
3. They aren't contributing anyway, while the most active players are more clear about their thought process.
4. Who said they don't give info? We can see who was trying to lynch All Alone but not SlickDinger, etc.

[Human Sequencer]

if you're town i promise i won't forget your reads
you should know that based on my play in wave
unless you think i'm scum, which you don't because i'm striked

gin, tone reads are a thing and i'm trying to get better at it. you in particular have a very distinctive way of typing, and a distinctive personality i think i've got a relatively solid grasp on. do you really think that all scumreads based on that are invalid, or are you trying to come up with an out for the situation you've wormed yourself into?

[TheRealGin-N-Tonic]

Well if you think I'm scum because of my town then you don't have a solid grasp on my personality lmfao.

The only way to convince you that you're wrong at this point is when I flip green this game. I literally can't defend if your conf!biased that my emotions are scum motivated.

[Human Sequencer]

gin, i don't think you're scum because of how you play as town, i think you're scum because of an inconsistent tone, which has once again flopped into a weak parody of 'oh look at how little i care'.

you can defend yourself in this position by explaining the town motivation for changing how you've expressed yourself in thread to me, to clear out my doubts. on the other hand, you can claim that you can't defend yourself and claim that i'm confbiased and that the only thing that'll prove me wrong is a green flip.

[TheRealGin-N-Tonic]

Case in point, I explained why I no longer cared about RB and that was your main point in saying I sounded fake but that didn't matter to you, you thought it sounded fake as well.

This proves my point that you don't care, you're just saying whatever I say is fake.

[Creature]

Okay, as long we don't lynch a town loudvoice.

[-Grey-]

grey, you've read gin right before.
what do you think of him right now?

I think he's pretty obvious town.

unless you wanna save that for later as a sneaky gambit of course ))))))))))

Or do I?

[Human Sequencer]

you can defend yourself in this position by explaining the town motivation for changing how you've expressed yourself in thread to me, to clear out my doubts. on the other hand, you can claim that you can't defend yourself and claim that i'm confbiased and that the only thing that'll prove me wrong is a green flip.

guess gin went for the latter option lmao

my vote stands tbh

[TheRealGin-N-Tonic]

DID I OR DID I NOT FUCKING EXPLAIN WHY I NO LONGER CARED ABOUT RB WHICH IS EXPLAINING WHY I CHANGED MY OPINON ON EXACTLY WHAT YOU THOUGHT WAS SCUMMY AS FUCK

[Human Sequencer]

i really doubt gin missed that i was talking about tone over content there

[Human Sequencer]

are you ok gin
may i recommend you some gin and tonic to calm your nerves
i hear its very popular in the russian mafia <3

[Human Sequencer]

I think it would be ideal to lynch the lurkers early.
1. If we leave them alive and they're scum, town will forget about them.
2. If we leave them alive and they're town, when it's something like MyLo or LyLo, scum has a giant power.
3. They aren't contributing anyway, while the most active players are more clear about their thought process.
4. Who said they don't give info? We can see who was trying to lynch All Alone but not SlickDinger, etc.

tbh i 100% agree with this and would much rather cycle through dreamer(most likely lurker to flip scum tbh), but on the other hand i'm not so sure town can agree on that atm

[TheRealGin-N-Tonic]

The tone as content are not mutually exclusive. You can't have one without the other.

[TheRealGin-N-Tonic]

Tone and content*

[TheRealGin-N-Tonic]

Saying that you thought my quote was dishonest meant you thought I was lying. Unless the word dishonest has a new definition to what it means, I don't see how you could use that word and say you weren't calling me a liar.

Therefore I spent the time to express to you how me not caring about RB wasn't a lie.

[Human Sequencer]

See, that explanation checks out perfectly. Now try and understand why I'm scumreading you for not picking up on that earlier. If you posted that a few posts ago (as opposed to writing me off as confbiased), we wouldn't be at such an impasse.

[Human Sequencer]

How many scum is there reasonable to be in this game? 19p, probably like 5 scum, assuming singleball? I know from the spec earlier that 9 is asinine, but I know nothing about gamebalance. I just wanna know if I should be worried about not having many scumreads at this point. The only other 'large' game I've played in only had 17 players, one who was a non-issue, and even that was enough to confuse my reads. There was only 3 scum in that game, but the setup was different there so eh.

The less scum there are the more confident I am in cycling through lurker slots. Unreadable slots with no posts are much better to get rid of early or force-replace out before the thread becomes too big rather than have sitting around as a liability later in the game.

still want an answer to this btw
how many scum are there likely to be?
every time i start questioning one of my scumreads i come back to this gnawing question

[rb]

who fucking cares

town should have as many scumreads as they have, doesn't matter if it's 10 or 1. you read the game, you get reads.

[Human Sequencer]

i care :<
i'm still learning early-game larges
its fucking hard