Open 662: Fire and Ice (Game Over)

[Realeo]

I no longer like snow. I'm making it my mission to eliminate the shit out of the ice mafia this game.

Can I invite you to Indonesia?

A tropical country with 365 days of sunlight, ensuring good tan

and no snow

. In addition to that, excellent currency exchange from USD <-> Rupiah ensuring affordable lifestyle.

[Realeo]

I no longer like snow. I'm making it my mission to eliminate the shit out of the ice mafia this game.

Are you ice mafia? Fire!Transcend makes no sense because why would Transcend kill his buddy.

[Transcend]

I no longer like snow. I'm making it my mission to eliminate the shit out of the ice mafia this game.

Can I invite you to Indonesia?

A tropical country with 365 days of sunlight, ensuring good tan

and no snow

. In addition to that, excellent currency exchange from USD <-> Rupiah ensuring affordable lifestyle.

Nice.

[Transcend]

True

I'm Def not fire.

But then again i could be lol.

[Transcend]

The biggest scumfuck btw is havingfitz and i wanna see how many people are down and dirty to hang that slot

[Realeo]

According to you

Okay finished the Io iso.

This slot is scum imo.

Gamma is still scum too.

As for the other two idk.

but according to this

btw gamma is still scum but he can get lynched d2 this time

VOTE: nn30


catch-up was awful

{

Io

, Not_Mafia}

Io is top townread? Wowzah

{Joshz, culted}

{Realeo}

{BK201, PenguinPower, Clemency}

{Rory}

{SnarkySnowman}

{Gamma Emerald, nn30}

smt like this feels a-ok

why is io/fitz scum?

[havingfitz]

The biggest scumfuck btw is havingfitz and i wanna see how many people are down and dirty to hang that slot

That's not nice.

Also....are your reads usually wrong?

[Realeo]

BTW, if Transcend flips scum, Gamma Emerald is almost confirmed town.

[Realeo]

Also....are your reads usually wrong?

Just know that I've lost a fuck ton of games and won a few :/

[Transcend]

I

Changed

My

Mind

[Realeo]

Explain then how your mind change!

[Transcend]

Bc i reread

[Realeo]

What changes in your reread?

[KuroiXHF]

Lol, concern from d2. So much for communication.

The problem of your so-called concern was it was from your POV concern--so I feel no need to intervene read. I read people by their consistency of their read so I try not mess up with them. Concern would be something like Transcend who barrack me for nothing.

I can't still address your concern. If you (realistically) expect response, you need to elaborate.

For example:

So can you, Realeo. You're good at this game. This is lazy. This isn't normal you.

I cannot address this concern because you make this game based on my computer calculation skill, which you learn from Death Note Mafia as setup reviewer (btw, we got scummies nom!) and The Purge,

which is scum meta

, so logically speaking, I am town for violating diligent scum meta.

For some reason, this seems to ping me. This doesn't feel like natural play from Realeo, even though I have a difficult time trying to put this into words.

This also needs elaboration, especially since you know that I am not native speaker and I am not psychic.

Moreoever, I don't understand how does computer calculation skill equates to diligent scumhunting? I had made a large case as diligent!Realeo (Mislead 2, my only newbies game) but you don't have meta on me being diligent. Your meta at me is being diligent setup speccer, not scumhunter.

And I explicitly avoid setup speccing this game in D1 which causes tantrum, so if we want to follow your logic, I am town.

So the thing about me being pinged by your play is that from what I know in Death Note Mafia conceptualization and reviewing and everything, I've been able to tell what your normal personality is like. It isn't so much about being able to find out how well you scum hunt as much as it is knowing how you normally act. (Although I do earnestly believe being a left-brained type of person helps you find scum.) You've eluded me in Purge Mafia but that's because I didn't know how to handle you, and the play is somewhat similar, I believe.

And yes, you're a mind readers. All non-English native speakers are.

We all know that.

[Realeo]

So the thing about me being pinged by your play is that from what I know in Death Note Mafia conceptualization and reviewing and everything, I've been able to tell what your normal personality is like. It isn't so much about being able to find out how well you scum hunt as much as it is knowing how you normally act. (Although I do earnestly believe being a left-brained type of person helps you find scum.) You've eluded me in Purge Mafia but that's because I didn't know how to handle you, and the play is somewhat similar, I believe.

I am trying to imagine the appropriate action for me?

In Gamma Emerald case and In Rory case, please. I can't imagine the correct action

ala Kuroi

given the condition of the game

[Realeo]

Your demand, Kuroi, only makes sense in game if the game has an ideal situation which is (1)diverse discussion and (2) active player

(2) is obviously not the case in this game

And (1), although The Purge was a shit fest, it was the right direction. We always have setup spec and (retarded) scum hunting two topics running together ~ Whether almost and shos is scum? This game is more one topic per a time. It's quite one topic per a time in this game?

The Purge and this game is not an apple to apple comparison. If you say, "You're not being optimal Realeo," well ok. But when the environment is not optimal, you can't expect me being optimal as well.

[Realeo]

Here's another way to see it. For me to be able to conceptualize thing optimally, I need data.

I need data, not only from the topic in general, but also from players.

In The Purge, it was quite a busy game right. The least speaking player, Pereginev, can still generate stand loudly.

In this game? We have Rory, NM, and SS.

I don't have enough data to perfectly conceptualize.

[KuroiXHF]

Your demand, Kuroi, only makes sense in game if the game has an ideal situation which is (1)diverse discussion and (2) active player

(2) is obviously not the case in this game

And (1), although The Purge was a shit fest, it was the right direction. We always have setup spec and (retarded) scum hunting two topics running together ~ Whether almost and shos is scum? This game is more one topic per a time. It's quite one topic per a time in this game?

The Purge and this game is not an apple to apple comparison. If you say, "You're not being optimal Realeo," well ok. But when the environment is not optimal, you can't expect me being optimal as well.

It's not about being optimal or not. I've said that I don't based your being able to find scum or not based on how well you find scum. Actually, I don't see reason for

anyone

not to try hard. Scum A gets brownie points for lynching Scum B, and vice versa. When one faction becomes eliminated then we can talk about optimization being alignment-indicative at all.

And I feel brushing Purge Mafia as being a shit-fest is just a cop-out. Yeah, Purge Mafia was a shit-fest... at night. And sure, for a little bit of the day phase as well because we weren't sure how we would all act. But the play is still that where I can't believe you'd be town.

[Realeo]

SO WHAT IS IT ABOUT??? THE KEYWORD IS "CONCEPUTALIZATION" BUT I DON'T GET THE DIRECTION?

I mean, if I fail to conceputalize, I fail to be optimal right????

Yeah, Purge Mafia was a shit-fest... at night.

You need to see the perspective of Purge Mafia...from the scum.

[Realeo]

I mean, the reason I can conceptualize is because I have data right?

I can conceptualize Death Note Mafia becuase...I generate data with computer simulation right? If I didn't generate data, how do I conceptualize???

You haven't answer my question??? How do I suppose to effectively conceptualize in Gamma Emerald and rory case?

[light_ganski]

What up

Official Vote Count 3.2

KuroiXHF (3)

- Joshz, BK201, havingfitz

Transcend (3)

- Realeo, Aristophanes, Gamma Emerald

Realeo (2)

- KuroiXHF, Transcend

Gamma Emerald (1)

- Not_Mafia

Aristophanes (1)

- Kmd4390

Not Voting (0)

With 10 players alive, it takes 6 votes to lynch

You have (expired on 2017-01-16 11:41:39) until deadline.

[Joshz]

Nm

[Realeo]

@Kuroi

The only stand that Rory made was Gamma was "ew" for scumreading IO's response that is actualy RVS. After that, he becomes radio silent.

He made stab at BK & nn here and there but never explain it.

How do I conceptualize that?

You can said "Realeo, you can interrogate him!" But how do I interrogate someone who does not respond? I interrogate Transcend because he response.

[Realeo]

Hold on a second. Isnt gamma emerald one of those "on impulse player"?

That incentivizing bad thinggy prolly nai.

And this example is 7 pages deep. You can't expect me to make hi-grade analysis with 7 pages right?

I said so because I have meta at him. I try to conceptualize from my meta.

[Transcend]

UNVOTE:

I doubt again that scum will put both eggs in one basket.

Which means, there's a fire, an ice, and an idiot in {Realeo, Fitz, Gamma}.

Leaning on Realeo being the idiot.

Hey bk here's a present for you.

VOTE: havingfitz