Open 662: Fire and Ice (Game Over)

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Blurgh actually bk could be scum. Idk. It's time for a flip imo.

Would say with relatively good confidence that Josh is town.

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Imo Realeo/Fitz and gamma/?

Prob not josh or nm

I think kmd is town but i need to re-iso.

I think it could be Aristo and gamma idk.

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The issue with this Amished issue, Kmd, is that it tells me I can't town read who I legitimately town read. When I come into game, I give my reads. This includes what I like and what I don't like.

Who?

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I think Aristo is scum

What say you guys?

Io jumped off of Realeo too early and the hop on was kinda awkward

Aristo has barely interacted with gamma here.

Idk ideas hmmm

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Fuck it gamma and Fitz are scum, just not on the same team

Joshz is town

I don't see NM on either scum team.

Kmd is likely town I'll need to re iso

I think Kuroi is town, but I'm not gonna be too reliant on that read.

BK is definitely not with Fitz and probably not with gamma. I think his scum hunting is genuine this roll.

That leaves Realeo and Aristo.

Realeo/Fitz
Gamma/Aristo

Ftw?

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Alright i just iso'd Realeo io and Fitz

Realeo and io lack communication. Io votes Realeo for a pretty shitty reason. Realeo Acknowledges culted being L-3ed but then doesn't acknowledge Io L-2ing him.

Moving along, they hardly interact. Realeo ends up voting her twice? Both times his vote was up there for less than 20 minutes.

Realeo and Fitz haven't communicated once.

I'm liking my theory.

I'm solving the game guys.

I'm getting my groove on.

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Scum crossed d1 as well

Assuming you mean night 1....how do you get that?

Simple game mechanics which we already discussed.

If both the fire and ice mafia target the same player, their kills cancel out. Until there is only one faction left it is essentially the only way there can be no NK. The Doc can only save one person remember.

How did you miss this and the pages of discussion about it at the seat of D2??

Btw why did you respond to this and not my fos on you?

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I'll delve into gamma Aristo tomorrow and see what connections i make there.

But imo we take a bite out of realfitz imo. My logic really paints them to be a team, imo.

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Imo

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Well okay lol

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I Kinda think Kuroi is town lol

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Nah Realeo is scummy lol

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Kuroi looks kinda like someone that subbed into a bad town slot and has been dealing with flak from it.

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Lol

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Lol you're just an enormous scum fuck.

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So i got lynched right

Okay well i was town. Please sheep me tm.

Pretty sure you lynched the person who both factions killed.

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On night 1 btw

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Actually since this is the 4th town death, scum need to cross kill.

Fitz / Realeo, take it from a pro. The scum are gamma and aris.

Also vice versa lol.

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...I was not the hammer, was I?

You were, but you're scum so don't even pretend to be ashamed.

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...I was not the hammer, was I?

You were, but you're scum so don't even pretend to be ashamed.

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Oh i thought i got lynched hmm

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I love it when i have 3 scum on my wagon.

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Except prolly yea

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If you're so sure I'm scum, why the hell would you give even the slightest of a damn about me being lynched

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Lol i mean you sound like you're paranoid of me getting prematurely lynched lol

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Lol then why make it a warning

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Anyways your fos on me is bs and only formed once i announced suspicion on you lol lol lol.

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God bless you

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Hey

Why would you lynch Scooby Doo?

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The king doesn't want kuro lynched

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The king sees good in you

VOTE: Realeo

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Guys it's snowing outside

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Also i got into a car crash because of snow. Fun fucking shit.

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I no longer like snow. I'm making it my mission to eliminate the shit out of the ice mafia this game.

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I no longer like snow. I'm making it my mission to eliminate the shit out of the ice mafia this game.

Can I invite you to Indonesia?

A tropical country with 365 days of sunlight, ensuring good tan

and no snow

. In addition to that, excellent currency exchange from USD <-> Rupiah ensuring affordable lifestyle.

Nice.

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True

I'm Def not fire.

But then again i could be lol.

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The biggest scumfuck btw is havingfitz and i wanna see how many people are down and dirty to hang that slot

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I

Changed

My

Mind

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Bc i reread

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UNVOTE:

I doubt again that scum will put both eggs in one basket.

Which means, there's a fire, an ice, and an idiot in {Realeo, Fitz, Gamma}.

Leaning on Realeo being the idiot.

Hey bk here's a present for you.

VOTE: havingfitz

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Oops by Fitz i meant aris.

I think for sure aris and Realeo aren't a scum team, since aris voted me immediately, and only, after Realeo did.

So yeah, Gamma is scum.

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I dodge lots of questions

Look can we just flip Fitz or gamma already. They're separate factions.

It could be Fitz/aris and gamma/???

Realeo is beginning to town ping me again.

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Ok then

What question do you desire to have answered

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Just dem vibez man

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Fitz Gamma and aris are scum

The fourth one is tricky

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Btw if my theory is right then that means logically Fitz/aris are a scum team. Gamma-Fitz and gamma-aris make no sense. The former due to Io, and the latter due to VCA.

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I have ways of reading people that no one but myself will ever understand

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But, uh, yeah. You're town.

Assuming gamma is in fact scum and the other team is Fitz+Aris

I think i can rule out Realeo/Gamma, N_M/Gamma, Joshz/Gamma.

So the possibilities are:

Kuroi/Gamma

And

BK/Gamma.

I'll read the ISOs of those two pairs along with Fitz-Aris to see the plausibility.

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Ok i rr Rory/kuroi and i don't think they're scum, but if they are ima say it's not with gamma.

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my god you're quite a guy

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news flash:

both cases are wrong

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what

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Figured

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VOTE: Aris

Realeo please stop confbiasing me.

BK201, I gave you an opportunity to vote your biggest scum read and you didn't take it. You're a big stinky.

I'm cool with gamma/aris voting me though.

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Yeah man let's do it

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WAGON IS GO

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Wait hold on with 10 alive it takes 6 to lynch so unless all 6 remaining town vote scum, that means scum will have to bus or lynch someone from the other team in order for a scum lynch to be achieved.

Fun stuff guys. Lol.

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I want information. I want 2 deaths. Let's nl maybe. I'm sure it's in both factions best interest to attempt to crosskill as town is 3 down with the only night utility gone.

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Oh so I'm scum now

I feel so betrayed

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L o freaking l

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So if it's likely a scum slot why not bloody lynch it

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Bk you're doing the thing where you're targeting all the easy slots you did last time and i don't like it.

But my reads vs. The wagon construction on me are off kilter.

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Touche

Well i implore you to unvote

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I don't have a defense

You just jumped on a scum motivated wagon.

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I think it's gamma and aris. Realeo is probably town and i think you might be town.

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No I'm bad at articulation

If you have to flip me then fine but i just implore you to unvote since it will be the third mislynch and 5t4m which is not good for greens.

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Like if scum don't cross kill ie they kill 2 vts, mafia will have majority and you'll have to bank on cross kills.

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I think it's gamma and aris. Realeo is probably town and i think you might be town.

Your read on me is bunk yo

Okay and how about kmd? Is his vote "bunk" on you too?

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Well you're not

That's all i can say

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Got a case?

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I'm self hammering if I get to L-1 I'm disgusted with the amount of stupidity being portrayed here. I'm not scum.

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Also I'm the one that got killed by both scum. I know it. I always know when I get saved by doc in mafia games. This is no different.

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Aris Wagon Official Application

Thank you for your interest for inclusion in the Aris bandwagon. We'll ask you a few questions and if we are satisfied, you will be given up to three interviews. At that time, you may be asked to complete a drug test and sign for approval for a background check (Your cooperation is not required). You may skip any steps in this process by switching your vote to Aris and keeping it there until he is lynched. All questions may be directed to the head of the complaint department, Transcend.

1. Are you scum? yea

1a. If you answered yes, are you fire or ice? If no, skip to question 2.
fire baby

1b. Who is your scumbuddy
not_mafia

1c. Are you interested in eliminating the other team?
no

2. Why do you want to lynch Aris. Note: Aris Wagon Company Policy states that you are not required to answer this question. An answer of "omitted" will not disqualify you from voting Aris.

because i HARD TOWNREAD HIM

3. Why have you not voted Aris already?

i have

4. Is guacamole town?

yes

5. What other wagons have you joined and what were your reasons for leaving? (List up to 4 most recent)
1 joshz (Threatened to sit on me)
2 kmdnumbers (let me borrow his nintendo ds that one time)
3 not_mafia ()
4 snarkysnowman (because he had really good reads and insight ngl)

6. Is this your first time lynching scum? If not, tell us about a time you lynched scum in the past.
yes................

7. What is your exact town win percentage?
0%

8. What are your best and worst qualities when lynching scum?
best qualities: i vote mafia
worst qualities: i've never actually voted mafia in my life

9. Give us one reason why we can trust that you will be reliable in keeping your vote on Aris?
you can't

10. Aris, while scum, is still a good dude. So tell us your favorite thing about Aris.
i agree to this, and he's a good dude in this game as well!!!

Thank you for your time. Your application may take up to three days to process. You may follow up on the application, but are not required to do so. We currently have four positions to fill, so please return this application as soon as possible. We look forward to meeting with you and hope that you'll be a valuable asset to the Official Aris Bandwagon! np

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have you read any of my scum games realeo

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how do you know i buddy as scum (because i do)

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i do

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why do you hard tr NM

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ok then why bring it up lol

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i lean town on him as well but i was hoping to find common ground

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okay well not_mafia and i are two different people, keep that in mind

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VOTE: Transcend

cbf

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scum i urge you guys to crosskill

this town is hopeless

only you guys can give us a hope if these fucking morons keep lynching obv towns back to back to back

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if your faction kills someone from the other faction and the other faction doesn't, then you have an advantage, i'm sure you know this, just putting it out there zzz.

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scum i urge you guys to crosskill

this town is hopeless

only you guys can give us a hope if these fucking morons keep lynching obv towns back to back to back

if your faction kills someone from the other faction and the other faction doesn't, then you have an advantage, i'm sure you know this, just putting it out there zzz.

quoting this

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i have absolutely 0 hope in town winning this game unless scum crosskill twice btw.

absolutely 0

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KMD and Not_Mafia are the only ones that appear to have their head attached to their shoulders

Does that make them town?

I really don't know, but if one or both of them are scum I want them to win.

Otherwise *waves town flag* go team!

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I'm town

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Nah not this time

I always troll twilight but this game wasn't fun

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Well you're wrong so enjoy that

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Also em is my home site. A few players from there have joined this site and kicked some massive ass. Epicmafia players are better than you'd think. Our games are on average 20 minutes, when these get drawn out for months. We have to think fast, we don't have as much time to construct our posts. We get reads fast we have to trust them. Anywho just pointing that out.

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Look i town told my ass off and you guys weren't budging.

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Fitz looks kinda genuine this twilight.

Idk i don't really trust my reads this game.

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Idk i think he's genuinely pissed off that i sh'd.

Idrc tho tbh because it was inevitable.

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Cgrats kmd!

Finally not a fire mafia win

Also gj to aris for attempting what he did.

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well fitz was confirmed town so no scum team would kill him imo. i actually think that lynching there was useless, but if it were say your slot or my slot that self lynched, it would increase the odds of scum crosskilling.

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I think if Aris self lynched, scum would have known who each other were, and possibly crosskilled, unless they wanted a draw.

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This is true, you didn't have absolute confirmation that fitz was conftown like Realeo and KMD.

IMO tho, the scummier town slot should've self lynched in that scenario and not the townier one.

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It's an interesting paradox imo. Town should claim scum and scum should claim town.

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Same g