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Votecount 1.10

Alisae (2)

Pine , Wraith ,

TheRealGin-N-Tonic (6)

All Alone , Zachstralkita , Alisae , SlickDilinger , Debi , EchoVision ,

drealmerz7 (4)

rb , Creature , Human Sequencer , Ircher ,

Pine (1)

ssbm_Kyouko ,

SlickDilinger (2)

Lil Uzi Vert , -Grey- ,

EchoVision (1)

TheRealGin-N-Tonic ,

Not Voting (3)

Gamma Emerald , drealmerz7 , Dunnstral ,

Day one deadline is Sunday January 15, 4 PM PST. (expired on 2017-01-15 17:00:00)

With 19 alive it takes 10 to lynch!

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[TheRealGin-N-Tonic]

that page top tho

[Alisae]

You scum read me with a vote saying that you read other people's words and said that's good enough for a vote.

Your reasoning was actually fucked up when posting and I need to get this straight with you.

You said you didn't like Usi, myself, and Creature which, excluding me, is part of the town block and then you go on to say the only person you really hate on the wagon is Dunn which leads to the logical conclusion that you would vote him but I got the vote.

There's a logic leap there and I'm just confused as to why you wouldn't vote your top scum read? Hate=thinks is most scummy for clarification as to why I said scum read instead of hate

Why did you assume think I hated Dunn for that vote?
You're drawing conclusions out of thin air.
If you're asking for my scumreads they're Slick, Dreams, Creature, You, Pine

[Alisae]

And I never scumread Uzi.

[TheRealGin-N-Tonic]

Hey Zach. I like your wall. As in, really, really, really like your wall.
I also re-read AA's wall. I really like that.
I also hate how quickly the Slick wagon rose. Yes I don't like the wagon, but I don't like how Uzi, Gin, and Creature jumped on that shit right away.

In fact, the only person I really hate on the wagon is Dunn.

VOTE: TheRealGin-N-Tonic

Really wonder how I came to the conclusion how you hated Dunn.... the world may never know, you must be right, came out of thin air

[Alisae]

Hey Zach. I like your wall. As in, really, really, really like your wall.
I also re-read AA's wall. I really like that.
I also hate how quickly the Slick wagon rose. Yes I don't like the wagon, but I don't like how Uzi, Gin, and Creature jumped on that shit right away.

In fact, the only person I really hate on the wagon is Dunn.

VOTE: TheRealGin-N-Tonic

Really wonder how I came to the conclusion how you hated Dunn.... the world may never know, you must be right, came out of thin air

The way you were saying it made me assume that you thought I hated Dunn for that vote.

[TheRealGin-N-Tonic]

Votecount 1.08

Alisae (3)

Debi , Pine , Wraith ,

TheRealGin-N-Tonic (3)

All Alone , Zachstralkita , Dunnstral ,

drealmerz7 (2)

SlickDilinger , Human Sequencer ,

Pine (1)

ssbm_Kyouko ,

SlickDilinger (6)

Alisae , Lil Uzi Vert , TheRealGin-N-Tonic , Ircher , Creature , -Grey- ,

All Alone (2)

EchoVision , rb ,

Not Voting (2)

Gamma Emerald , drealmerz7 ,

Day one deadline is Sunday January 15, 4 PM PST. (expired on 2017-01-15 17:00:00)

With 19 alive it takes 10 to lynch!

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Wait you were on the Slick wagon, in fact you started it, so why did you have a problem with people voting Slick in general?

Hi have a good idea! Why don't we flashwagon this?
VOTE: SlickDilinger
Or someone can do a meta dive real quick, either work for me.

Also, if you requested a flashwagon, what made you come to the conclusion that you had the right to say how you didn't like people jumping on to the wagon quickly?

[Alisae]

Reaction Test.

[TheRealGin-N-Tonic]

HA

[TheRealGin-N-Tonic]

I also hate how quickly the Slick wagon rose. Yes I don't like the wagon, but I don't like how Uzi, Gin, and Creature jumped on that shit right away.
In fact, the only person I really hate on the wagon is Dunn.
VOTE: TheRealGin-N-Tonic

So was this the results of your reaction test? Can you point out where you said this was all a reaction test because I'm not getting the vibe that you did this as a reaction test; reads more as your own reaction to the wagon forming.

[Alisae]

Yep!
I point out it's a reaction test in post 1407

[TheRealGin-N-Tonic]

Yeah before post 1407, otherwise you're confirming that you just made that up to defend yourself.

[Alisae]

Yeah before post 1407, otherwise you're confirming that you just made that up to defend yourself.

VOTE: rbVOTE:

[Alisae]

fuck
VOTE: rb

[Alisae]

okay vote served it's purpose
VOTE: Gin

[Alisae]

Um a I was saying, lynch all lairs?

[Alisae]

I mean like, fuck man, all I ever wanted was for everyone to like me including scum.

[Alisae]

Actually, nah. I got a better idea.
VOTE: -Grey

Where the fuck did you go? You liked dissapeared and shit and I expected you to have gone after someone who you read as scum.
I get a feeling this is not your town game.

[Dunnstral]

I'd like to change my vote to Gin
VOTE: Gin-n-Tonic

Also Human,
'So why did you react so emotionally to my scumread with what you perceive as shoddy reasoning compared to some light memeing with RB who has a scumread based on practically no reasoning?'
Anybody would defend themselves if somebody claims somebody as scum, not reacting is wierd.

I'd like to change my vote to Gin
VOTE: Gin-n-Tonic

Also Human,
'So why did you react so emotionally to my scumread with what you perceive as shoddy reasoning compared to some light memeing with RB who has a scumread based on practically no reasoning?'
Anybody would defend themselves if somebody claims somebody as scum, not reacting is wierd.

If I'm correct, you're the 6th or 7th vote on me so at this point it's no longer pressure voting. Give reasoning because, going under the pretense that you are town, you want to be able to clearly say why you thought player C was scummy enough for a vote instead of someone being able to misrepresent what you thought was scummy about me.

Before I go into detail, I'd like to thank you, for your extra reasoning you provided me.
'At this point it's a game, if RB reads me as town, I win, and he knows that.'
Am I genuinely the only person getting a scum read from this or not? So let me get this right, if the person who stemmed all of the arguments against you admits that you're town, then you win? First of all, for somebody to stem an entire argument against somebody, they have to think they are scum, or just think they are suspicious, or the like. So he obviously doesn't think you are town, that's absurd. Also why would you win? I assume it is because you are Scum. What would the point in you being town, and being confirmed town be? All right, so 1 person thinks you are town, alright, so what about the other 17? If 1 person thinks that you are town, big deal, the other people voting for you will still think you are Scum. So you won't win in the slightest way. There will still be people voting for you. The only way for you to win, is if the entire Scum faction were voting for you, and all of them instantly unvoted as RB unvoted. Which I find to be really unlikely, as many of the people voting for you have different reasons to vote you, yes they do stem from the discussion you and RB originally had, but they still have slightly altering opinions.

The only other way that you can win, is if you are Scum. If you are Scum, you will obviously quote on quote 'win', as the less people who think you are Scum, the more likely you are to win. Let's say RB is also Scum, the people who think RB is Scum, will immediately turn onto you, making it seem like he's trying to make a Scum member seem innocent. The people who think RB is town, won't turn on you, as 'why would a town purposely call another town a Scum?.

Due to this, I'm 99% certain you are Scum now.

However, as to before my post, this is why:
'Well if you think I'm scum because of my town then you don't have a solid grasp on my personality lmfao. '
I don't know about anybody else. I think this is very Scum based. Of course you want to defend yourself, but this is way too far-fetched. You want us to believe you are town, yet you provide no reasoning at all, other than 'then you don't have a solid grasp on my personality'. This seems far too desperate, far far too desperate. The worse thing is the 'lmfao'. You are saying about your personality, yet this is the only time I've saw you say 'lmfao', or similar, in a serious context.
Want to know something which makes this much worse? 'I'll get serious when I get off work'..... What!? 'I'll get serious when I get off work'. Am I the only person who interprets this as being a cover-up, as if you are trying to say 'Ignore everything which happened recently, I'm obviously not trying at the moment'. If not, and you really are in work, then you are a hypocrite. You have been making out that you take the game really seriously, and that you are a very serious person, who gets their priorities in order. Which makes 0 sense, if you take the game seriously, why would you not take it seriously, when pressured especially, and when you are in work. And if you take important things more seriously, then why on earth are you playing whilst in work!?

VOTE: Gin
Guilty till proven otherwise.

Hey Debi, I'm having trouble parsing what you're trying to say here?

What maes you think Gin is scum and not just awkward? Also have you been keeping up with the game, and if so have your reads changed at all?

[Alisae]

Now that I think about it, his votes are SUPER oppertunistic.

[Dunnstral]

Got to Debi's post #1327 but didn't finish it because now i feel super light headed and nauseous and have a headache so i'm gonna go lay down for a little bit but i'll hopefully be back soon, if not then it'll be first thing tomorrow morning. For now, I leave you with this:

VOTE: TheFakeGinNToner

^will explain when i don't feel like puking

ok

[Alisae]

I'll get back to Gin later, but one thing I don't like about Gin is that he immediately doesn't give Echo a chance to explain himself. To me it comes off as saying "I don't care about your justification."
Now if Echo were to come back and not post his reasoning behind the vote, fine, that's blatantly scummy.
But he doesn't even give the poor kid a chance.

[Zachstralkita]

Gin is scum dude

[Alisae]

Gin is scum dude

Grey isn't playing according to his townmeta if you're talking to me.

[TheRealGin-N-Tonic]

I'll get back to Gin later, but one thing I don't like about Gin is that he immediately doesn't give Echo a chance to explain himself. To me it comes off as saying "I don't care about your justification."
Now if Echo were to come back and not post his reasoning behind the vote, fine, that's blatantly scummy.
But he doesn't even give the poor kid a chance.

IF Echo said he thought I was scum and did a FoS, then it would have been chill but you don't fucking prod dodge for 3 days and vote someone to put them at L-3 and then bounce to avoid discussion. If you're not able to think clearly, then you don't make decisions like that. I've already said this shit but now you're appealing to emotions saying "he doesn't even give the poor kid a chance." Seriously?


You know what placing a vote is without reasoning? Voting without conviction...gee golly ain't that a concept.