OPEN 663: STACK THE DECK (GAME OVER)
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But I reject it, didn't I?"The debate on whether short multi postings or a long wall of post is good or not is like a debate on gun control--we would never understand each other and we have to make peace with it." -Realeo
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What's up with this?In post 726, Realeo wrote:Hello. That was a lot of fun.
I'm going to formally request you shut the fuck up now.In post 740, Alisae wrote:Dunn that's dirty
And You wanna know why AH's push on TB seems like theatre to me? Ok. I wanna wait till everyone talks a bit until I go over this mad science. Also I need more time to study AH. I'm just gonna leave this here
“All warfare is based on deception. Hence, when we are able to attack, we must seem unable; when using our forces, we must appear inactive; when we are near, we must make the enemy believe we are far away; when far away, we must make him believe we are near.”
― Sun Tzu, The Art of War
"Pretend inferiority and encourage your enemy's arrogance. Hold out baits to entice the enemy. Feign disorder, and crush them"
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I don't see how the RVS vote looks like theatre.<Embrace The Void>
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Alright Dunn, let me explain.
Say if the NK were to be Algebra.
VCA would tell us that Alegbra was ontop of Realeo since 185
That's a long time Dunn.
Like, 2+ weeks ago.
I feel like if there were to be a Statue of Limitations, people would have forgotten that Algebra voted Realeo super early.
Algebra was the main person that was putting pressure on Realeo.
So NKA would make the NK directed to him really obvious.| here.GTKAS-
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In post 482, algebra wrote:If Realeo isn't faking VI this game he's town.In post 743, Realeo wrote:
I should use that quote when I explain my faux-VI.In post 740, Alisae wrote:"Pretend inferiority and encourage your enemy's arrogance. Hold out baits to entice the enemy. Feign disorder, and crush them"
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In post 751, Gamma Emerald wrote:
What's up with this?In post 726, Realeo wrote:Hello. That was a lot of fun.
I'm going to formally request you shut the fuck up now.In post 740, Alisae wrote:Dunn that's dirty
And You wanna know why AH's push on TB seems like theatre to me? Ok. I wanna wait till everyone talks a bit until I go over this mad science. Also I need more time to study AH. I'm just gonna leave this here
“All warfare is based on deception. Hence, when we are able to attack, we must seem unable; when using our forces, we must appear inactive; when we are near, we must make the enemy believe we are far away; when far away, we must make him believe we are near.”
― Sun Tzu, The Art of War
"Pretend inferiority and encourage your enemy's arrogance. Hold out baits to entice the enemy. Feign disorder, and crush them"
― Sun Tzu
Along with the words: Metal Sonic
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I guess it makes sense. Though there's ~other reasons~ ssbm could have been killed as wellIn post 752, Alisae wrote:Alright Dunn, let me explain.
Say if the NK were to be Algebra.
VCA would tell us that Alegbra was ontop of Realeo since 185
That's a long time Dunn.
Like, 2+ weeks ago.
I feel like if there were to be a Statue of Limitations, people would have forgotten that Algebra voted Realeo super early.
Algebra was the main person that was putting pressure on Realeo.
So NKA would make the NK directed to him really obvious.
I'll think about it I guess
The easiest explanation is just that Algebra isn't doing much so scum killed ssbm for some other reason and ignored Algebra-
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Realeo Jack of All Trades
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Full disclosure : I still have no clue why I'm being voted."The debate on whether short multi postings or a long wall of post is good or not is like a debate on gun control--we would never understand each other and we have to make peace with it." -Realeo
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Realeo Jack of All Trades
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Oy, I already did.In post 738, Dunnstral wrote:If you bring something up, then yes I'll "help you analyze""The debate on whether short multi postings or a long wall of post is good or not is like a debate on gun control--we would never understand each other and we have to make peace with it." -Realeo
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That only explains that IIn post 752, Alisae wrote:were to be a Statue of Limitations, people would have forgotten that Algebra voted Realeo super early.
Algebra was the main person that was putting pressure on Realeo.
So NKA would make the NK directed to him really obvioucanbe mafia. That does NOT explain that Iammafia."The debate on whether short multi postings or a long wall of post is good or not is like a debate on gun control--we would never understand each other and we have to make peace with it." -Realeo
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Realeo Jack of All Trades
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Can anyone give me a psychological lecture about Mafia Traitor at me? Is it more normal for Mafia Traitor to be more diplomatic against town or mafia partner?"The debate on whether short multi postings or a long wall of post is good or not is like a debate on gun control--we would never understand each other and we have to make peace with it." -Realeo
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So this catch my attention....
So AntiHuman plays the AtE card at L-1. The wagon at the L-1 was.In post 634, Antihuman wrote:No need for useless speculation, I will flip town and TB will flip scum. Feel free to hammer.
I find it strange. AntiHuman has made a play (in my opinion) an excellent analysis (he fooled me) and push with confidence.(Gamma Emerald, Desperado, ssbm_Kyouko, ThinkBig, Alisae, SuperHans)[/color]Antihuman ( 6 ) -
Why the sudden mood change from confindence to surrenderness?
I think he surrender because his scum partner is voting against him. As a mafia traitor, judging by psychological analysis, being a mafia traitor is a lonely role. Being foresaken by his partner is a lonely game.
So there are 6 people. To a certain degree.. TB is town. ssbm flipped town.There is a minimum of 1 scum in (Gamma Emerald, Desperado, Alisae, SuperHans)"The debate on whether short multi postings or a long wall of post is good or not is like a debate on gun control--we would never understand each other and we have to make peace with it." -Realeo
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Realeo Jack of All Trades
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Correction. AH has played the AtE card since L-2. So there is a minimum of 1 scum in (GE, Desperado, Alisae)"The debate on whether short multi postings or a long wall of post is good or not is like a debate on gun control--we would never understand each other and we have to make peace with it." -Realeo
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Interesting night kill.
This is damming. Why would ssbm be targeted by the mafia over the innocent child?In post 714, ssbm_Kyouko wrote:but yeah im onto something i think so, completely unacceptable imo. If Kop/AH are both town I thinkif im not here to remind yall about kop in the morning please revisit his last few posts of the dayGamma/Dave/Alisae
HOS on Kop and Gamma. I really don't like how AH derailed gamma's wagon. I'm willing to vote for either kop or gamma.I have officially retired this account. My new account is Virtuoso.-
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Y only Dunn and Alisae?In post 737, Realeo wrote:Dunn, Alisae, would you help me analyze conversation between Kyouko and AntiHuman? That may be the only explanation of the nk?
Y do you think there even is a tangible reason for the NK?
Imho killing Kyouko is gonna be a WIFOM brainfuckeroo. Maybe it Kyouko was chosen so that town would over analysis it and use it to lynch the wrong person.-
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I think you are still alive for two reasons:In post 758, algebra wrote:I'm still alive, it's a miracle.
1. You weren't very active last day phase;
2. ssbm was too close to the truth.I have officially retired this account. My new account is Virtuoso.-
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If AH didn't have such a hard-on for you I'd think you're scum for this comment.In post 766, ThinkBig wrote:Interesting night kill.
This is damming. Why would ssbm be targeted by the mafia over the innocent child?In post 714, ssbm_Kyouko wrote:but yeah im onto something i think so, completely unacceptable imo. If Kop/AH are both town I thinkif im not here to remind yall about kop in the morning please revisit his last few posts of the dayGamma/Dave/Alisae
HOS on Kop and Gamma. I really don't like how AH derailed gamma's wagon. I'm willing to vote for either kop or gamma.<Embrace The Void>
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I don't highly rated this logic. I appreciate it, but I just don't think it's necessarily correct. AH change in attitude could be a result of desperation, especially considering the impending deadline.In post 764, Realeo wrote:Correction. AH has played the AtE card since L-2. So there is a minimum of 1 scum in (GE, Desperado, Alisae)-
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Can you give us scum reads day 2?In post 638, Kop wrote:
My reads change all the time as the game progresses on. I don't do scum reads on day one usually, I see the information in posts, and generally push wagons, etc. I work better when there's been flips and I have information that can back my thoughts up.In post 612, ssbm_Kyouko wrote:AH what's your opinion on Gamma's vote on Desperado, and Desperado's sudden swap from voting Gamma to you?
Gamma voted Desperado, if Gamma is scum he wouldn't start the cw on his partner
Desperado swapped to Antihuman, might make sesnseifGamma is scum, AH is town, and Desp is traitor.
AH wagon would also be cw to scum in this case.
Question is: Does Gamma have any plausible scumbuddies besides AH? Desperado is out unless he's traitor, so we'd need 1 more (or 2 if he's not the traitor).
Let's assume scum aren't going to hard bus their teammate in the middle of D1, so we look for a partner that wasn't on the Gamma wagon at it's apex
Kyouko - conftown to myselfIn post 326, grapes wrote:DAY 1 VC 005
(Superhans, ThinkBig, Realeo, Desperado, Kop)Gamma Emerald ( 5 ) -
(ssbm_Kyouko, algebra, Secret Agent Jin)Realeo ( 3 ) -
(ReubenWasFine, Gamma Emerald)Desperado ( 2 ) -
(davesaz)Secret Agent Jin ( 1 ) -
(Dunnstral)Not Voting ( 1 ) -
Seven to lynch.
(expired on 2017-01-05 01:30:02) remain until deadline.
Seeking a replacement for ReubenWasFine.
algebra - conftown
RWF/AH - We're assuming this slot is the town cw to scum for this exercise
SAJ/Alisae - was not on the Gamma wagon but when he comes in he discredits AH case and soon after Gamma joins him in picking apart AH case to start a new wagon on AH. Replaces out. Alisae Says he doesn't like TB but soon after catching up a bit more says he doesn't like AH's push and votes AH. AH could be the counter to Gamma if Alisae and Gamma are buds
davesaz - Comes in to catch up to a 5 person Gamma wagon with a very flat reaction. Possibly measured response to scumpartner's wagon. His next post looks at the gamma wagon for opportunistic votes, says he's still catching up but points to Realeo and Desperado as being similar to Gamma, as if to offer them as alternatives. Dave speculates Gamma is the cw to scum!Desperado. HOWEVER, Dave in 374 has a similar reaction to the popup of AH's wagon, indicating to me he is unaware of either wagon's alignment, unless the team is Gamma/dave/AH
Dunnstral - No reaction to the gamma wagon, is still focusing on her own SR of davesaz. Reads as towny to me.
I'm thinking AH is not very likely to flip scum unless he's teamed with davesazandGamma. Desperado I think is unlikely to be traitor based on the way he got onto the Gamma wagon.
This leaves me with a scumteam speculation of [Gamma, davesaz, Alisae/AH]. Kop could be blind spot scum still. I think Gamma's flip will be most telling because it was both the cw Realeo/Desperado and had it's own cw in the AH wagon.
VOTE: Gamma
Kop do you have scumreads? Noticed a lot of you asking other people about their reads in your ISO and a lot of commenting on questions directed at other players but not much in the way of substance
Right at this point, a lynch on either AH or TB is only going to be beneficial right now because the limelight for the past 10 or so pages with a few random ones thrown in between has been on those 2. Either one is going to give information and isn't going to be one of those policy lynches that isn't going to lead to anywhere.
When it comes to day 2 however, I'd like pressure to be placed on Gamma because I am not seeing a style that I am accustomed to. And I just feel that he is happily going under the radar whilst the war goes on, and If we do lynch AH and he flips scum, then a great deal in me is going to want Gamma lynched. If AH flips town however, that isn't going to stop me wanting pressure on Gamma, I didn't say lynch but I'd like the pressure to get him to talk.
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