Open 664 - Tit for Tat (Mafia Wins)
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Crystalline Dagger Goon
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KainTepes Mafia Scum
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In post 985, Crystalline Dagger wrote:Man, i get it that you want to not be shot by KT tonight but now scum.is going to target you tonight or N2.
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this conjunction of posts is weird.In post 1000, Crystalline Dagger wrote:Normally i would think it was weird if you shot a claimed JK and they flipped green bit i have no idea why a VT would claim JK.
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your first post is as if you believe ALISAE's claim but now you said you didn't believe it?
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Hawk Mafia Scum
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Not to step on toes here but I don't think CD was saying they didn't believe the claim I think they're saying they don't understand VT claiming JK.In post 1001, KainTepes wrote:In post 985, Crystalline Dagger wrote:Man, i get it that you want to not be shot by KT tonight but now scum.is going to target you tonight or N2.
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this conjunction of posts is weird.In post 1000, Crystalline Dagger wrote:Normally i would think it was weird if you shot a claimed JK and they flipped green bit i have no idea why a VT would claim JK.
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your first post is as if you believe ALISAE's claim but now you said you didn't believe it?
VOTE: Crystalline DAGGER
Nothing about those particular posts indicates a mixup in thought.
explain further if I'm Wrong KT and CD-
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Hawk Mafia Scum
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I want further clarification here but until then can we look at that final VC from yesterday.
Mala, Kop, KT and Aelin were still on Alisae at the end of the day. KT is confirmed Vigi and Aelin was Scum. We need to address the possibility of more Scum between Mala and Kop.
IV didn't vote but he also didn't Hammer when Alisae was at L-1 So I don't think he's scum...
Top Scum buser for me is Spade.
so here's where my vote is starting.
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Hawk Mafia Scum
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Actually I had a thought just now and his claim makes sense and we should have realized he was either VT or Mafia.In post 1000, Crystalline Dagger wrote:Normally i would think it was weird if you shot a claimed JK and they flipped green bit i have no idea why a VT would claim JK.
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In the case we know the following. KT is Vigi, Alisae is not JK, mafia have no reason to kill Alisae, KT will shoot Alisae if he's not lynched. Real JK would not JK a potential mafia trying to fake JK claim to not get shot.
KT's logic is sound. Alisae probably made the best play he could make given the situation.
That's why VT claims JK. Not the best reasoning but a decent Gambit for saving your own skin. Though it was really bad because a bad JK might have CC'd to ensure Alisae gets shot. Thankfully nobody claimed JK-
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KainTepes Mafia Scum
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This sounds to me that CD did not believe the CLAIM,,In post 1002, Hawk wrote:Normally i would think it was weird if you shot a claimed JK and they flipped greenI AM KAIN TEPES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Crystalline Dagger Goon
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You do realize ali flipped between these postsIn post 1001, KainTepes wrote:In post 985, Crystalline Dagger wrote:Man, i get it that you want to not be shot by KT tonight but now scum.is going to target you tonight or N2.
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this conjunction of posts is weird.In post 1000, Crystalline Dagger wrote:Normally i would think it was weird if you shot a claimed JK and they flipped green bit i have no idea why a VT would claim JK.
~Jin~
your first post is as if you believe ALISAE's claim but now you said you didn't believe it?
VOTE: Crystalline DAGGER-
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KainTepes Mafia Scum
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yeah,, but explain what you mean by "Normally i would think it was weird if you shot a claimed JK and they flipped green",, it's like you weren't expecting her to flip greenI AM KAIN TEPES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Crystalline Dagger Goon
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This reaction looks fake tbhIn post 986, Malakittens wrote:you are a dumbass if you think pointing our your crumb was the best way to get you out of the game
you fucking ruined the towns chances of winning
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good job
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KainTepes Mafia Scum
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Hawk Mafia Scum
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CD this is more concerning. Agree with the fake reaction.
Wagon on Mala?-
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Crystalline Dagger Goon
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Hawk Mafia Scum
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Same. Mala and Spade's ISO's read very scummy when you read Aelin's too.
VOTE: Mala-
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Same. Mala and Spade's ISO's read very scummy when you read Aelin's too.
VOTE: Mala-
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KainTepes Mafia Scum
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Okay, fine,,
what I dont understand about Crystalline is that JK is also green (town), so why he think JK won't flip green?
but i dont mind wagon on malakit, VOTE: malakittensI AM KAIN TEPES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Hawk Mafia Scum
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They're not saying that an actual JK wouldn't flip green but that if a Vigi shoots a claimed JK it's usually because the Vigi is sure that the JK claim is false meaning they should flip red. Makes very little sense to claim JK as VT or any other Town alignment unless you really are JK.In post 1018, KainTepes wrote:Okay, fine,,
what I dont understand about Crystalline is that JK is also green (town), so why he think JK won't flip green?
but i dont mind wagon on malakit, VOTE: malakittens
This just happens to be a really weird situation and Alisae took alot of unnecessary risk with that claim... I mean what happens if you believe him KT and shoot another one of your top Scum and then real JK jails someone else. Then two different townie could be dead and D2 might start with real JK CCing Alisae's claim... like it really is bad. Even if Alisae lives in no scenario do we not lynch him d2 if real JK CCS his claim...-
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Crystalline Dagger Goon
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I was commenting on the fact that a vig shouldn't shoot a claimed JK just in case they are actually what they claim. Hawk's post about why Alisae mmight claim JK as VT made sense. If Alisae flipped JK then i would have questioned you but Alisae flipped VT so its just whatever at that point.In post 1001, KainTepes wrote:In post 985, Crystalline Dagger wrote:Man, i get it that you want to not be shot by KT tonight but now scum.is going to target you tonight or N2.
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this conjunction of posts is weird.In post 1000, Crystalline Dagger wrote:Normally i would think it was weird if you shot a claimed JK and they flipped green bit i have no idea why a VT would claim JK.
~Jin~
your first post is as if you believe ALISAE's claim but now you said you didn't believe it?
VOTE: Crystalline DAGGER
This was the post Hawk made that i talked about above.In post 1004, Hawk wrote:
Actually I had a thought just now and his claim makes sense and we should have realized he was either VT or Mafia.In post 1000, Crystalline Dagger wrote:Normally i would think it was weird if you shot a claimed JK and they flipped green bit i have no idea why a VT would claim JK.
~Jin~
In the case we know the following. KT is Vigi, Alisae is not JK, mafia have no reason to kill Alisae, KT will shoot Alisae if he's not lynched. Real JK would not JK a potential mafia trying to fake JK claim to not get shot.
KT's logic is sound. Alisae probably made the best play he could make given the situation.
That's why VT claims JK. Not the best reasoning but a decent Gambit for saving your own skin. Though it was really bad because a bad JK might have CC'd to ensure Alisae gets shot. Thankfully nobody claimed JK-
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KainTepes Mafia Scum
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yeah alisae was the best shot i could have made last night,, because no matter what we will lynch ALISAE day 2,, and it would have led to real JK claiming which is badI AM KAIN TEPES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Hawk Mafia Scum
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No argument there. Alisae's gambit as VT was incredibly bad. moreso than I originally thought. .In post 1023, KainTepes wrote:yeah alisae was the best shot i could have made last night,, because no matter what we will lynch ALISAE day 2,, and it would have led to real JK claiming which is bad
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