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[Garmr]

VOTE: JarJardrinks

Because I can.

[Garmr]

VOTE: JarJardrinks

Because I can.

Can you put your vote somewhere useful?

VOTE: EagerSnake

Sure I can.

[Garmr]

How is that useful?

Any that tells me to vote someone useful in rvs deserves a vote. It useful because it makes me feel better. Also why is your gamma vote useful in the same vain?

[Garmr]

So people who are contributing deserve votes more than people who haven't yet?

That question doubles as an answer to your question.

Contributing=/=town So your answer is you done nothing to show your town but contribute fluff ok.

Also you never answered why was your vote on gamma vote worthy?

[Garmr]

Actually what do you think you contributed?
If contributing is a town sign what happens when scum is contributing?
If scum don't contribute why don't they contribute to the conversation?
How does one make a useful vote in random voting stage?
How do you spot the difference between something not useful and useful in rvs?

[Garmr]

I don't need a reason, but my reason is that he hasn't posted yet. That's why I said my question doubled as an answer.

It's also contrived to call my contributions fluff.

But you haven't added a valid view on who's scum so it's fluff rvs is mostly fluff.

Also are you saying you can only vote people who haven't posted in rvs.

At that point jar jar didn't post so by your definition my vote is valid.


So why call it useless?

[Garmr]

It's called reading.

Yep inability to answer any of the questions, can't support his own stance, low grade content, contentiously tries to scarecrow yep i'm keeping my vote on you. First real scumlean rvs for me is broken.

[Garmr]

Going to work be back in 9 hours.


p edit: caves under pressure can be added to list.

[Garmr]

Oh look a wagon on me time to find the scum.

[Garmr]

Btw way I have the best case in the game so far.

1.eager snake says my vote is useless but when asked why he says it's because on active player.

1.A this is not a good reason and also hypocritical snake
1.B At the time jar jar didn't vote

2.When asked questions he scared crowed and then answered questions with questions.

3. when called out on it he panicked and answered the question each. Panicking doesn't look good and if he could answer them so easily and quickly why didn't he answer them in the first place?

4. latter on he retold events wrong to make himself look like a victim.

Actually what do you think you contributed?
If contributing is a town sign what happens when scum is contributing?
If scum don't contribute why don't they contribute to the conversation?
How does one make a useful vote in random voting stage?
How do you spot the difference between something not useful and useful in rvs?

1. Started forming a town block. Started dialogue.
2. I never said contributing=town. Contrived yet again.
3. Are you serious with these questions?
4. Up for debate.
5. Experience.

VOTE: Garmr
These questions are basic. Scum don't like to ask big important questions.

What's more is he tried to call me scum for not answering the questions (even though if you look at time stamps I was answering the questions, but just felt like posting my response to the whole thing first.)

This isn't what happened he's playing the victim card.

[Garmr]

So like I said Best case in the game so far.

[Garmr]

and I think eager is town.
So your case is invalid
#logic

But I think his scum so to me it's the best case.

#counterlogic.

[Garmr]

and I have a case that'll top yours gimmie a day or two irl.

Yeh its a early game case through. But I feel like my early game case is the best one I had in ages and I'm proud of it.

[Garmr]

and I have a case that'll top yours gimmie a day or two irl.

Yeh its a early game case through. But I feel like my early game case is the best one I had in ages and I'm proud of it.

Nah I got a better one right now but I need to see everyone talk first before I present it for ~reasons~

If it tops mine I will sheep yours. That's if it tops mine through if not you have to touch your nose while on one leg and hop on the spot.

[Garmr]

Oh and second obligatory filler section: (directed to CloudKicker) I personally have blitzed through many SS3 Chat Mafia games in my life too! Also 6k hours of 3 years of your life does mean you are rather lifeless.

Real part of post: I'm a relatively new playerr, and am confused about players like join on October 31 2016 and have the Mafia Scum status. (Hint name starts with A). I played Mafia on a website whose primary purpose was a Pokémon Simulator, it's a place where your Mafia skills degenerate the longer you play there, hence explaining why I joined mafia scum. I live in an incredibly crappy timezone, meaning that most of you are active when I sleep.

PEdit: I did. It was an obligatory filler.

I used to play mafia on that poke sim to. It doesn't translate well here through.

[Garmr]

XD Pokemon Showdown is litterally retarded.

I loved that sim through good times. I got banned for a month because I got a whole bunch of players to gang up on one guy and instant lynch him. Private communication and deal making made the game interesting.

[Garmr]

you know whats funny is when town of Salem players come here and think they are pro at the game.

[Garmr]

VOTE: nadpool

Maybe eager snake is just a bad player and not scum. Still makes me want bash my head in through.


Nads voting is pretty shit through.

[Garmr]

For some reason I like cloudkicker more and more after each eager snake response he does.

[Garmr]

they would have to be self imposed restrictions because this is a mini normal.

[Garmr]

I'm actually willing to just vote eagersnake off so I don't have to deal with his shit post.

Was thinking that scum couldn't be that bad for a bit but maybe I was wrong.

[Garmr]

I think it might be easier to work from my town reads backwards this game than hunt scum.

[Garmr]

UNVOTE: nadpool

eewwwww i'm on the same wagon as jar jar.

[Garmr]

Garmr JarJar Penguin scumteam.
Thoughts?

Going to be honest I'm not putting my %100 in this game at the moment. None of the post have caught my interest and players like eagersnake mentally drain me



But my town pool

Is
Alisae
CloudKicker
XnadrojX

People I think are potential scum
garryoats
eagerSnake
gamma

@jar jar
No I just have bad memories of you trying to push a lynch on me as town (when we were both town) multiple times and having shit reads.

[Garmr]

No I just have bad memories of you trying to push a lynch on me as town (when we were both town) multiple times and having shit reads

Oh u mean the game where on day one I was trying to lynch scum that you were defending and then you fakeclaimed and got lynched?

yeah good point

That's not how i remember it.

[Garmr]

Just going to say I will probably hammer jarjars or eager slot if it gets to l-1. Other slots I won't mind waiting for. Why because they are annoying and not town read.

[Garmr]

Not a really good case I through. I honestly don't want to play with eager or jar jar. If I knew eager would be like this I wouldn't of joined.

[Garmr]

You're not saying why.

Do you honestly think someone who's been complimented on their scum games would say anything like 649 which seems to be a deciding factor in your case. To be honest I'm not feeling the game. Ever since eager shit logic at the start he is just another axlegreaser.

[Garmr]

You must not be to certain on your reads as well. Because your voting pattern is weird.


Pedit:It pretty obvious why eager is draining if you can't see how someone would be drained your blind. If it's jarjar it's multiple past experiences. I actually forgot about them till today since i been gone so long.

[Garmr]

Eager is frustrating because of his scarecrowing,misrepping,hypocritical,stupid (like "put your rvs on someone useful".) anwers and you know what the sad thing is. He might be town.

[Garmr]

you know what Might as well vent we have elephant boy here being useless as fuck doesn't say a word ect. If his town his as useless as tits on a bull because his not posting content. He also opens himself up for a lynch so no matter his alignment it's fucking stupid.

Also we have garry fucking oats.

Just go through his iso useless one line questions that never amount to anything. Stays out the spotlight and other than me no one notices his presence. His like a ghost. If his town which I doubt by the fact that people are avoiding bringing him up then his not going to have any and i mean any impact unless he puts himself out there. If his scum then his doing it right.

Also you alisae wtf is this bullshit

Eh Fuck it.
I don't care if you are attempting to bus.
I'll sheep this cuz tbh pressuring that slot is a good idea.
VOTE: JarJar

that sounds like a bullshit excuse to jump on jarjar

In that case eager, come join this wagon with me? Ya?
VOTE: Garmr

and this shit lol From a town to scum in one page. It's like your trying to predict future wagons instead of trying to find scum.

[Garmr]

tbh I mostly overlooked Garmr because of his early game cases which looked like an attempt to solve the game, but honestly I should have SR'd him along with you, Jarjar, and Penguin.
now that I'm relooking the nadpool wagon, Garmr probably the worst person on it.
Like they drop their case and scumread on you and hop on.
And they even vote with you on that wagon.
Like it makes me think that their scumread on you is fake as well.

1.I jumped on it because I was reconsidering eager tbh his only a scum lean. Plus nadpool is shit.
2. Didn't you just do the same thing and if so doesn't that make you scum?

[Garmr]

Now you think I'm scum after hopping on you? Okaaaaaaaaaay cute.
See! My vote is in a good place!
I can find scum, lynch scum, and eat ice cream at the same fucking time.

pedit: 1. Naaaaah, think of it as he has a post restriction.
2. Except you're scummy. I just have shit logic.

Did i say that your scum? I'm just asking wtf are you doing.

1.You are fucking stupid if you think there is post restrictions in a mininormal. Post restriction are banned for normalcy.
2.that's pretty horrible excuse. Then again I stopped caring for this game a while. I think arguing with you will make it more interesting.

[Garmr]

Now you think I'm scum after hopping on you? Okaaaaaaaaaay cute.
See! My vote is in a good place!
I can find scum, lynch scum, and eat ice cream at the same fucking time.

pedit: 1. Naaaaah, think of it as he has a post restriction.
2. Except you're scummy. I just have shit logic.

Did i say that your scum? I'm just asking wtf are you doing.

1.You are fucking stupid if you think there is post restrictions in a mininormal. Post restriction are banned for normalcy.
2.that's pretty horrible excuse. Then again I stopped caring for this game a while. I think arguing with you will make it more interesting.

1. Never said he had one, just said he's playing like he has one.
2. ok
As for what I am doing, I am lynching scum.

then if he is playing like he was one then he is pretty fucking stupid.
2.good to show you condeced the point.

3. If you think i'm that carefree as scum to jump on a wagon like nadpool carelessly then you must think to little of me. I'm probably one of the better scum players here I think 80% of my scum games I made it to mylo and never been lynched on day 1 Something I'm quite proud of.

[Garmr]

3. In general I hate the arguement of I wouldn't do that as scum. I think it's very shitty to me and a low blow. If you wouldn't do something as scum, you can't push it on people you have to let people figure it out for themselves why you wouldn't do something as scum. Also Metal Sonic was a player. You could look town and do carefree things and drop intentional scumtells so that when you got lynched you plant doubt in the town and cause people to re-evaluate their townreads.
And so what if your other games made it to mylo or you never been lynched day 1? That is those games. Those games =/ This game.

You can literally just go through all my games don't be lazy. Also there was no need for me to talk shit to draw attention to myself at all. Scum that play draw negative attention to themselves with no rewards are just trash. What was the reward for dropping a intential scum tell? Why is it a scum tell? Have you seen a scum player say that? Why would scum even say that if it's not a scum tell?

Also I know of metal sonic i don't understand why you bring him into it metal sonic is irrelevant to me.


Also this environment sucks the information being produced is shit. I would argue the environment is favorable to the scum team.

[Garmr]

Nadpool screams Obvtown to me because his logic and reasoning to me makes all of the sense.

Your kidding right symbols and quotes make sense to you?

[Garmr]

1. Mislynches. 2. You didn't scumtell and I never said it was a scumtell, I just hate when people do that. 3. not answer this question cuz I don't want to get banned. 4. To make it seem like they aren't scum or to attempt to prove that they are town.

1.mislynches who's mislynch?
2.then why present it as a case.
3.I'm nothing like metal sonic. Are you a metal alt
4.why would I need to do that if you are town reading me?

[Garmr]

1. The people who TR'd Them.
2. Saying why someone would do that isn't really a case to me I just hate the phrasing.
3. No I just like the dude cuz read games.
4. I'm not TRing you? I don't get what you're asking here.

1.No i'm asking becuase I don't understand what you mean by that
2.but you just tried to use it as a way to discredit me.
3.Ok then i mean there are better players like fferylt, thor or desperado but if you think metal sonics cool good for you I guess.
4.you were before that's the point one page change.

[Garmr]

why don't you just ask to modkill nadpool unless he starts talking that way you don't have to waste a vote.

[Garmr]

Also the fact jarjar is hesitant to jump on me probably makes him town so lynching me clears jar jar a bit.

[Garmr]

why don't you just ask to modkill nadpool unless he starts talking that way you don't have to waste a vote.

i already asked for a replacement. also dont like this post.

gamr and nadpool slots prob not teamed because of this post as well. I think one might be maf. And right now i'm leaning gamr over nadpool. I still want penguin as i think he is one of their buddy

Vote me then.

[Garmr]

nah I was vanilla town good job through.

[Garmr]

VOTE: garmr

Just in case you need that to hammer.

[Garmr]

I'm town but gerry is pretty much confirmed scum.

[Garmr]

..... do it hammer me.

[Garmr]

@gerry

I'm town and once I flip people will see you as opportunistic and the scum you are.

[Garmr]

at the moment i'm lynch bait scum are going to go crazy for me. If I put effort into this game I wouldn't of been lynchbait but it's so hard to get into this game with low content players.

[Garmr]

Look this is what i will do depending on the situation.

If you lynch me today it's fine I will wear it. I will flip town. you guys take a look at garryoats. I win in some regards and even through I'm a mislynch town doesn't lose much.

If I live today I am going to replace out and hopefully town get a player who can thrive in a low content environment. Because it's unfair to town that I can't get into this game. I should stop blaming others for that. It's my own fault that this environment strangles me no one else's.

UNVOTE: garmr

[Garmr]

Oh cool I am hammered Yeh was town. Suck a fuck garry oat.

[Garmr]

Look this is what i will do depending on the situation.

If you lynch me today it's fine I will wear it. I will flip town. you guys take a look at garryoats. I win in some regards and even through I'm a mislynch town doesn't lose much.

If I live today I am going to replace out and hopefully town get a player who can thrive in a low content environment. Because it's unfair to town that I can't get into this game. I should stop blaming others for that. It's my own fault that this environment strangles me no one else's.

UNVOTE: garmr

This game has a few low content players. Doesn't seem much different to me than most games here.

There's no quality high content players to balance it out. I have been unfair on you through and i'm sorry about that.

[Garmr]

If you're town you need to be mentored. You're garbage. You reasonings are horrible

Dude I have been here longer than you and i'm probably better than you if I put effort into it. Just because you can't understand my reasoning doesn't mean it's wrong. People like fferylt and pirate mollie have noted alien the way i come to my reasoning is and how it works for different scenarios.

I've nailed a entire scumteam day one before so one bad game doesn't = a badplayer.

[Garmr]

^agree with that.

that's like calling the kettle black penguin power.

[Garmr]

I've nailed a entire scumteam day one before so one bad game doesn't = a badplayer.

a broken clock is right twice a day

So that's why your wrong this game. how many games out of the 24 have you been right on so far.

[Garmr]

that's like calling the kettle black penguin power.

Was referring to the self-hammer. I haven't done that....yet.

I miscounted as well. I am town but i was going for the fake hammer as well.

[Garmr]

I think I counted 3.

I trusted Alisae's count on Garmr, I shoulda looked myself. That was my only fault here. I figured even if someone quick voted after me he would still be at L-1

will you at least trust me that jar jar is town on this one.

[Garmr]

that's like calling the kettle black penguin power.

Was referring to the self-hammer. I haven't done that....yet.

I miscounted as well. I am town but i was going for the fake hammer as well.

lol knew it. idk why you'd do that if you're town

I've done it before as town. Through last time I was a hider and with my play I nailed all the scum and confirmed mislynches.

[Garmr]

I think I counted 3.

I trusted Alisae's count on Garmr, I shoulda looked myself. That was my only fault here. I figured even if someone quick voted after me he would still be at L-1

will you at least trust me that jar jar is town on this one.

If you flip town, I will take it into consideration. Quick out the reason you TR him

He didn't vote me. As scum he would of got away with it. Given his nature i doubt he would miss the chance to vote me. You can read the tone of his post and the hesitation is real after mislynching me multiple times.

Funny enough his only ever caught me in my bad games. I'm a hit or a miss player.

[Garmr]

If I had more time I could give a more in depth reason but to be honest that would require 30 mins to a hour and I might not have that time.

[Garmr]

30 minutes to a hour is what it normally takes to put a post with quality content in the game for me.

[Garmr]

How do you define quality content

Big full of information ,in depth, required thought,Requiring me to constantly read the game,consider every option.

Basically everything I didn't do in this game.

[Garmr]

Eh. I think quality content can be as simple as asking the right questions

Asking the right questions helps. But doing what I said can change the environment to a more town suited one. It's easy to read how things would change. Hell I knew my jump onto nadpool would look bad latter on I still did it anyway because I thought there is a chance he was scum. If I don't want to take risk and just relax to mylo i'm capable of that as well. I would rather stretch my neck out and get some reactions through.

[Garmr]

If Garmr flips scum I will say that his wagon is town as fuck and ywall should be lynching off the wagon starting with Penguin.
The only person who should be looked at on the wagon is most likely Gamma.

Never been lynched day 1 as scum never will. The only way I will die as scum is from sk (numerous times trying to kill town) or late game where power roles have cleared other players.

[Garmr]

Hey garmr this is what happens when you play with fire, you get burned now gimme your hardest reads

I'll do each one in a diffrent post incase the thread gets locked.

gerrygoats- basically cruised with low content none confrontational vote through out the whole day. After my lynch his reaction was scummy as fuck. He was still trying to push That I was scum and it seemed force. Also the fake hammer seemed pretty bullshit.

[Garmr]

if I put aside my dislike for eager earlier post he seems pretty town for his reaction after the hammer and the way his acting now. Maybe I just had confirmation bias.

[Garmr]

Penguin power is another scum read.

His offered nothing but question and layed down no hard stances. His done nothing with his vote and deserves a lynch.
I think I was the counter wagon to him which scum would of jumped on.

His reaction to my lynch is scummy as well. Like hahaha i'm scum i know your town but your lynched hahaha.

[Garmr]

Hey garmr this is what happens when you play with fire, you get burned now gimme your hardest reads

I'll do each one in a diffrent post incase the thread gets locked.

gerrygoats- basically cruised with low content none confrontational vote through out the whole day. After my lynch his reaction was scummy as fuck. He was still trying to push That I was scum and it seemed force.

Also the fake hammer seemed pretty bullshit

.

I dont undestand that part, you mean your fake hammer seemed bullshit or him calling you out on the fake hammer seemed bullshit?

Both it seems contrived and like a set up. I don't see how the two reactions mix. I set up this fake hammer but I know you would use it to try and gain town cred so your scum. What kind of shit logic is that.

[Garmr]

That's my two scum reads and I think they are the scum team.

[Garmr]

What about ppl slots you would never touch this entire game

yours
alisae
xnadrojx

[Garmr]

good game

[Garmr]

This is my first loss as scum as well as the first time I've ever been lynched.

I remember my first loss as scum it was to a sk not the town itself lol.