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[Ircher]

no nor do I care to

I don't meta-dive anyone ever, I learn to read them by experience with them it works best for me

I do the same. Somehow, we have come to opp. conclusions on Alisae and I want you to emphasize the difference between scum Alisae and less skilled/lynchbait Alisae..

[Ircher]

If dreal flips town I'm obviously not going to absolve his wagonees of responsibility but rb takes a lot of the blame for making a solid premature assessment on a player or thinking he is too good to do otherwise

Clarify.

[Ircher]

it's more like I'm a sharpener and ppl's blades are so dull - the rub is there, but it makes you sharper

ppl need to get their egos out of it

you first.

[Alisae]

You and Texacat are scum together. No doubt about that.

Why do you scumred Texcat again?

Few reasons.
Firstly I do not feel like Grey was bringing his towngame.
And then when they do come in, they vote me with a reason that really does not seem that strong to me.
Like they just jump to me without really putting any real effort into the game or really giving their opinions on everyone else and whats going on there.
Like their entrance was really awkward, and weird.

[Ircher]

there may or may not be people in the game currently who can attest to me having claimed to never meta-dive previously too

this is true.

[Ircher]

yah i mean i could pick apart every post we've made in that interaction and tell you the scum motivation vs. town motivation behind them and how i interpret your thoughts but i'd just really rather not atm

the point is that it reads so obvious and blinding to me that i shouldn't have to, which makes me feel like this is all one big joke or something and you're all laughing at me for being an idiot

and you say my methodology is flawed???

alright everyone:

this is exactly what I was expecting

I do my thing, and I get someone who thinks they see LHF, I give them a little line, they run with it, I jerk back, and they're hooked and they can't get away

you've got NOTHING, HS

let's JUST take the VC stuff, because that one is EASY and you should be able to handle it

if I were scum why would I make the claim I did at the beginning of the game about how I was going to do VCs, offer them in the future in the same post, and then not prepare accordingly in case someone asks in the future?

I will admit, Human's revival of the fabricated VC thing has caught me attention.

[Ircher]

am I dumbscum who just thought I could throw that out there and never be called on it?

or am I supersmart scum now playing a WIFOM game about fake VC keeping? if that is it, why the fuck would I do that and draw all the attention like that rather than something more towny? more WIFOM?

the second one.

That's exactly what WIFOM is.

[Ircher]

once again, if this was the -truth- you wouldn't have spent 45 minutes figuring out what you'd respond to me with.

dreamer needs rope really bad.

please stop using timestamps as evidence.

[Zachstralkita]

apparently instead of playing mafia I should be hosting "how to play mafia" sessions in the discussion boards

can you please stop with your stupid ego attacks on the playing ability of this site?

probably not

can people get their egos of their way and learn to learn?

egos need SLICED TO PIECES sometimes

You realize you have an ego yourself w/ that attitude

Sorry I doubt scumdrealmerz defense here is to tell you guys you're playing like shit

The more likely option is you're playing like shit


Going for lynches such as slick and drealmerz on this specific day one is fucking awful imo



If you need me to spell it out for you you're doing a couple of things wrong and it's laughable you're assuming I'm doing something wrong in providing my simple towncase for him , or rather, "why this is a shitty lynch case"

why is it awful? What lynches would you prefer?

I have said that we have a vast amount of info here to lynch players that have posted, lynching players who have not is low effort and a cop-out that can be justified with general concepts "information", etc. but still suck especially in this game when even though there's a lot of noise there's still so much info you can get

You know what lynch I prefer, if I had to pick a second it might be texcat pending further posts idk I have said how I feel about a lot of the wagons today. Another person I am unsure about is creature. And gamma slot I think

If dreal flips town I'm obviously not going to absolve his wagonees of responsibility but rb takes a lot of the blame for making a solid premature assessment on a player or thinking he is too good to do otherwise

Clarify.

rb is the IC he has influence


rb is a good player he has influence

rb is very confident in his abilities to the point where he determined dreal was scum off his first post. I would call this arrogance in your abilities

following a town flip on the now L2 or L3 drealmerz I would ask better deliberation and less hastiness because of how much power the IC holds.

If it's scum which is getting unlikelier by the second I will shut up about rb

[Ircher]

yah i mean i could pick apart every post we've made in that interaction and tell you the scum motivation vs. town motivation behind them and how i interpret your thoughts but i'd just really rather not atm

the point is that it reads so obvious and blinding to me that i shouldn't have to, which makes me feel like this is all one big joke or something and you're all laughing at me for being an idiot

and you say my methodology is flawed???

alright everyone:

this is exactly what I was expecting

I do my thing, and I get someone who thinks they see LHF, I give them a little line, they run with it, I jerk back, and they're hooked and they can't get away

you've got NOTHING, HS

let's JUST take the VC stuff, because that one is EASY and you should be able to handle it

if I were scum why would I make the claim I did at the beginning of the game about how I was going to do VCs, offer them in the future in the same post, and then not prepare accordingly in case someone asks in the future?

'I give them a little line'
'you've got NOTHING'
If you give them something to think you are Scum for, isn't that them having something???
VOTE: drealmerz7

PS: You don't need to spam so much you know, without all of the useless posts, it would seriously help people navigate between posts.

Please tell me that isn't a hammer.
UNVOTE:

[drealmerz7]

no nor do I care to

I don't meta-dive anyone ever, I learn to read them by experience with them it works best for me

I do the same. Somehow, we have come to opp. conclusions on Alisae and I want you to emphasize the difference between scum Alisae and less skilled/lynchbait Alisae..

a LOT of my game is personality and behavior assessment - I see consciousness and deliberatness vs. flailing towny who doesn't know what they're doing - it's an insight into their individual psychology - I do grant that I could be wrong, of course - but I have played a good number of games of mafia and I have become a better and better judge of distinguishing between the nuances exactly like we are at odds with here

a less-skilled (town) player realizes their vote hopping and spew is anti-town and curbs it - a skilled scum-player waits and watches for the point at which their intentional anti-town vote-hopping spew-spewing is accepted starts to turn to disfavorable and teeters on which direction to take it depending on the winds

you (and maybe pine too?) came in and give him the lynchbait label allowing him continue on - again, a less-skilled town player at this point begins to curb their behavior, a scum player sees that they're going to get away with it, and contiues for an appropriate amount of time as to not draw attention to the sudden shift in behavior

[Ircher]

ok so dreamer in a universe where you weren't gambitting me with the vc, what was the 'line' you gave me? what were you using to bait me?

if you were going somewhere with this line of questioning, where was it? why have you given up on it?

confirmation bias or scum?

This push feels like a tunnel.

[drealmerz7]

ircher, did I miss it? did you also attest to my claim of doing VCs as I've claimed?

[Ircher]

^lynch this

not yet.

[Ircher]

What a stellar two page argument guys

no, this has been an extended 10 page argument.

[Zachstralkita]

SO im going to tldr @Dunn REPLy

My problem is not that you disagree with my read but that you automatically use that as a factor to disqualify me AND don't at all explain your TR on the subject in question.

Instead when I ask you treat me like I'm slow or that I should be able to enter your skull and have the same thoughts you have like that is somehow reasonable.


Is it because of what I said to HS..... is that why you're doing that to me

[Dunnstral]

SO im going to tldr @Dunn REPLy

My problem is not that you disagree with my read but that you automatically use that as a factor to disqualify me AND don't at all explain your TR on the subject in question.

Instead when I ask you treat me like I'm slow or that I should be able to enter your skull and have the same thoughts you have like that is somehow reasonable.


Is it because of what I said to HS..... is that why you're doing that to me

[Dunnstral]

I advise you to take a look at slickdilinger and ask yourself why we're not voting them today

[Zachstralkita]

I've definitely looked.. he hasn't posted more

He falls into the drealmerz category for me

[Dunnstral]

vote him

[Dunnstral]

vote with me

VOTE: Debi

[Zachstralkita]

If you need me to spell it out for you you're doing a couple of things wrong and it's laughable you're assuming I'm doing something wrong in providing my simple towncase for him , or rather, "why this is a shitty lynch case"

Sorrrryyyyyy H Ssssssssss I was on my phone and mad you were voting my tr

vote with me

VOTE: Debi

But I can actually defend town debi without using the word "lurk"?

[Dunnstral]

My vote doesn't involve the term "lurk"

[drealmerz7]

if you are going to cast a vote

please state your case on why you think they are most likely scum and why we should vote them

thank you

[Zachstralkita]

My vote doesn't involve the term "lurk"

But my defenses on dreal and slick, your other preferred lynches do

That's y I said this one is different