Okay.
If I see ANYONE.
And I do mean.
ANYONE.
Who said, "hey let's not think about who Pine would pick, it's wifom!"
...And then proceeds to go, "hey, Pine posted this, what do you think it means?"
I'm lynching that motherfucker before endgame.
Now, vice-versa, my stance, is more understandable: Pine's choices before the game are a valid line of discussion...
...Whereas Pine's posting? You seem to be forgetting a fundamental factor; Pine is confirmed scum. The JOB of confirmed scum is to troll. The JOB of confirmed scum is to mislead the town, and to tell their scumbuddies what to do in private.
I can't fault someone who chooses to deny both (though that's a mistake), nor can I ridicule someone who chooses to accept both (though Pine's posting is bullshit that we all know is bullshit), but if someone held the stance that Pine's picks were wifom and we can't learn info from them and yet is trying to decipher Pine's posting, I'm going to call them out on their hypocritical double-standard.
And demand that anyone who did in fact hold that stance give a DAMN good explanation for the contradiction.
Now for me, I've laid out in very explicit detail why I think Pine's choices can be deciphered. The reason Pine's posts cannot be, however, is that Pine when choosing a scumteam is making a choice for the whole game. Pine when choosing to post is making a choice in the moment. He posts whatever the fuck he wants to post. He gets to choose for his scumteam whoever the fuck he wanted to choose. But it's BECAUSE that he has both that I have my stance:
Because he got to choose for his scumteam whoever the fuck he wanted to, Pine got to select players that he knew would be a good team, and we can figure this out.
Because he gets to post whatever the fuck he wants to, Pine gets to post nothing that is actually useful. Whatever he posts, he thinks to be harmless. Whatever he posts, he does because it was fun, funny, or whatever. Whatever he posts, he has the ability to manipulate freely and on a whim. "Oh shit, that was meant to be in the scum PT!" Yes, and so was my post where I posted that I hoped nobody in the town would see through BBMolla's choice to bus me. (Well, that was supposed to be a PM, but close enough.)
The like.
Pine can pick and choose his scumbuddies, but he can do so only once. His choices are going to be strategic. I can tell you they weren't made for fun because if he were making choices for fun I'd be on the scumteam yet I'm not.
Pine can pick and choose what he posts, and can do so at literally any time. He is quite literally confirmed scum. Engaging him expecting him to give you information is an exercise in futility. He'll give you about 10% accurate info--just enough to satiate your appetite. And then drown that accurate info out in 90% bullshit. And of the accurate info, about half of it is stuff we already know or will quickly figure out. Leaving a mere fraction of his posts as actually useful. And those useful posts? Basically impossible to distinguish between, because in the bullshit he posts, he'll give a lot of fake-useful posts meant for players to
think
they've found something when they haven't.
So my solution is simple: I'm ignoring Pine's posting for the sake of reads. Now, I'll still engage him, talk to him, but not because I expect something useful from it. Because he's my friend and I'm reminiscing about the good ol' days, essentially.
His choices, on the other hand, are an entirely different ballpark. When he made his choices, he couldn't make any bullshit up. All he could do was select a team he thought would win. Because Pine is--and here's the biggie--still playing to fulfill a scum wincon. What that means is, his posting is meant to fulfill that scum wincon by being as unhelpful as possible, whereas his picks in the pregame were meant to select the best team for the job and were therefore the most helpful thing possible.
I really wish I could convey this in a succinct form right now, but dead serious.
Pine's picks are a subject which are important, because he got to select the scum for this game.
Pine's words in this game aren't, because he gets to select what he says as confscum who would normally not talk and is only trolling when he does.
People who take the opposite stance need to die on policy alone.
