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Xbox One
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PS4
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Post Post #0 (isolation #0) » Thu Mar 31, 2016 7:46 am

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IH wrote:anyone else in the beta? I'd love to play with people.

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Post Post #34 (isolation #1) » Wed May 18, 2016 8:04 am

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I enjoy a variety of shooters. If I get this i will probably main
Soldier 76 (He plays like he is from COD or Halo)
Junkrat (I feel he is most tf2 like character and i love explosives, probably gonna be my main main)
Roadhog (I was on a pro UT clan back in the day, i<3flak cannons)
Lucio (Seems like most fun support imo)

All the tank characters excluding zarya look fun

If I get this, should I get it on xbox one, ps4, or pc?
What is everyone playing on?
Is there cross play?
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Post Post #73 (isolation #2) » Mon May 23, 2016 6:28 am

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As a former competitive Unreal Tournament and a current TF2 competitive player, I think a pro 6s overwatch team will eventually consist of 1 of each of the following classes:
Soldier 76 - The most solid balanced offensive character imo
Hanzo - Very solid defensive character that I believe counts as a sniper
Road Hog - The most solid balanced tank character imo
D.va - Very solid tank character, should work well as the main pocket for Mercy give their levels of mobility and her defensive matrix
Mercy - Her Resurrection ability is amazing and she heals/buffs teammates well
Symetra - Her teleporters strike me as an essential item to a pro team. And I believe she counts as a builder

Lucio strikes me as the best support character overall, however since I think its too much to ask him to skate around and boost everyone to the front all game as players die and respawn, I see him being used during the initial push and then that player changes to mercy or symetra as the game progresses

Everyone getting this on PC or are some getting it on console?
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Post Post #78 (isolation #3) » Mon May 23, 2016 7:34 am

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@IH, can you please add a poll to the thread that allows people to pick 'PC/MAC, PS4, XBOX One' for the question "For what are you getting it?"


Give people the power to select as many of those 3 as they want. Its unlikely many are getting it on multiple platforms but in case someone does probably should allow that in poll
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Post Post #79 (isolation #4) » Mon May 23, 2016 7:47 am

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I used to like COD when it was about WW2, now I dislike it a lot.

Nonetheless Soldier 76 still strikes me as the most balanced and simplest character in the game. Easy to pickup and learn for everyone. The noob character that embodies the simplest of shooter concepts

TF2 has a crap ton of complicated weapons that are highly situational. Because of that, I have learned the most effective weapons in the game are the simplest of weapons that can be effective in any situation. The simplest of weapons that can be used in any situation are the stock weapons. Everyone knows how to use a shotgun. Its a shotgun, its in every shooter!
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Post Post #81 (isolation #5) » Mon May 23, 2016 9:29 am

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In post 78, PokerFace wrote:
@IH, can you please add a poll to the thread that allows people to pick 'PC/MAC, PS4, XBOX One' for the question "For what are you getting it?"


Give people the power to select as many of those 3 as they want. Its unlikely many are getting it on multiple platforms but in case someone does probably should allow that in poll
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Post Post #112 (isolation #6) » Tue May 24, 2016 1:41 am

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Been speaking with some of my associates that competitive game. Really like the website http://www.overcounters.com/

Thinking best team comp should be
Defense = Hanzo Main
Offense = 76 Main that can switch to Pharah
Tank 1 = D.Va Main that can switch to Winston
Tank 2 = Road Hog that can switch to Zarya
Support 1 = Mercy Main that can be Lucio during initial push
Support 2 = Symetra Main that can be Lucio during initial push
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Post Post #119 (isolation #7) » Tue May 24, 2016 4:39 am

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xRECKONERx wrote:A single offense is the way to go with two supports? I'd prefer to give up the Mercy in favor of a Tracer.
If you are on offense I believe 2 Offense, 2 Tank, 2 Support is way to go
If you are on defense I believe 2 Defense, 2 Tank, 2 Support is way to go
If you are on a map that requires both offense and defense I believe 1 Offense, 1 Defense, 2 Tank, 2 Support is way to go
A team with both offense and defense is likely more versatile than the teams just geared for one or the other

So I suppose
Pharah <-> Genji (Roamer)
Reinhardt <-> Road Hog (Pick)
Widow Maker <-> 76 (Every Shooter)
Zenyatta <-> Mercy (Pocket Medic)
Winston <-> Zarya (Pocket Guard)
Lucio <-> Symetra (Utility)
Is a better scheme
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Post Post #121 (isolation #8) » Tue May 24, 2016 5:54 am

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True. This team crushes it on http://www.overcounters.com/

Pharah = DPS
Dva = Roamer
Widow Maker = Pick
Reinhardt = Pocket
Symetra = Utility
Lucio = Medic
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Post Post #126 (isolation #9) » Wed May 25, 2016 12:55 am

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The team positions on a TF 2 6s team are:
DPS which is always a demo man
Roamer which is most often a soldier
Medic because you always need that
Pocket someone to guard the medic which is most often a soldier

2 utility position which are often considered Pick and Point. Two players who have a job to pick or kill certain classes or take over points.
These are usually both scout due to their speed and cap rate

Applying that to Overwatch I figured this was a good team
Soldier 76 Roamer
Hanzo PICK
Winston Pocket
Road Hog DPS
Symetra Utility
Lucio Medic

Looking at http://www.overcounters.com/
Subbing in Pharah and Widow maker for 76 and Hanzo is alot better

Widow maker is kinda a support character because her Ultimate helps everyone on the team. I wish there was a 5th support character that was the equivalent of a TF2 Crossbow medic that had a similar ultimate to widowmakers and had a ranged weapon that healed or hurt. Maybe had a wall climb. That would be all they got. Basically this character would be a hybrid of Hanzo, Zenyatta, and Widow maker

After considering the comments of Flame Axe and Reck more throughly I took a look at the team:
Pharah Roamer
Widowmaker PICK
Winston Pocket
Road Hog DPS
Lucio Medic
Genji Point
Its a good team
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Post Post #127 (isolation #10) » Wed May 25, 2016 1:04 am

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Post Post #139 (isolation #11) » Fri May 27, 2016 1:36 am

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Given the poll looks like pc is best place for me to get it. Need to do some pc upgrades to play it then or use a controller with my laptop
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Post Post #175 (isolation #12) » Tue May 31, 2016 9:05 am

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I have never bought a blizzard game. If I download the game to my laptop can I also download it to my pc and pay only once?

Still in process of getting my PC updated to windows 7 so this game is supported
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Post Post #197 (isolation #13) » Wed Jun 01, 2016 7:50 am

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takes out takes out or knocks out of mech takes out?

That does sound real powerful for an ability that works on all the tanks.
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Post Post #229 (isolation #14) » Tue Jun 07, 2016 7:54 am

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Gonna be awhile before computer is ready for this and I got time for game.
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Post Post #250 (isolation #15) » Fri Jun 10, 2016 8:01 am

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Overwatch has more chokes and less flanking than TF2. Having many routes is why tf2 can be confusing. Having very few routes and lines on ground that show where offense and defense should go, make overwatch easy to understand

Overwatch has more classes TF2 has more play styles.
(Each class in tf2 has 4 loudouts, there are no loadouts in overwatch each classes equipment is set in stone)
(Explosive Demo and Demo Knight are both ways to play Demo Man while overwatch has 3 separate clases Junkrat, Genji, Reinhardt)

Overwatch has nothing close to disguises or cloak. Overwatch has unlimited total ammo but you still need to reload as all gun magazine sizes vary

Some overwatch characters have shields and or armor. TF2 has overheal that deteriorates

Lucio has compression blasts that can knock enemies off maps but not reflect projectiles, Genji can reflect non streamed projectiles

Mei, Symetra, Zarya and Winston have weapons that provide streams of damage like the pyros flame thrower. Mei is most in the Pyro spectrum, Symetra is minisentry or ofensive engineer spectrum, while winston and zarya are toward Heavy spectrum. Mei and the pyro are far from polar opposites...
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Post Post #256 (isolation #16) » Tue Jun 14, 2016 11:50 pm

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TF2 has melee weapons. In overwatch you can punch while holding your gun
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Post Post #262 (isolation #17) » Thu Jun 16, 2016 1:26 am

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Mcree got nerfed and widow got nerfed

I should have computer upgraded with this game installed soon though likely won't have time to play until end of month
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Post Post #297 (isolation #18) » Wed Jun 22, 2016 11:46 am

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Brandi wrote:Just thought this was interesting:
http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2016- ... -of-skills

This 17 year old Korean girl is so fucking good at Zarya (ranked 8th best in the world currently) that she gets accused of hacking by other pros and has to prove herself.
She's pretty fucking amazing and was awesome watching her play but I feel so bad about all the stress she endured because of people not believing her.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GpY_rKw5lNo

I watched her play and it was obv not hacking. Those guys got their shit pushed in and its good they are gone from sport now
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Post Post #298 (isolation #19) » Wed Jun 22, 2016 11:47 am

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After marathon weekend I will be finishing my pc upgrades and will be good to install this
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Post Post #304 (isolation #20) » Fri Jun 24, 2016 2:18 am

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character Idea for support sniper (I so hope this is what sombra becomes)

left click shoot bullet that heals ally or harms enemy pending what it hits
right click aim down sights (Not a full sniper zoom, just an aim down sights)

This sniper riffle would be high impact built for long range that would be shit at close range (Like the crusaders cross bow in TF2)

Shift ability = throw a grenade
E ability = Put up a little defensive barrier you can hide behind for a short time

Ultimate = Either a radar your team has access to for a short time or a temporary cloak for yourself

This character would encourage people used to normal shooters like cod, battlefield, and halo, to try out support. Having more people want to try support would be a great thing in this game
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Post Post #306 (isolation #21) » Fri Jun 24, 2016 3:03 am

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true. But then there are alot of similar ults

Mecree's ult has aim bot like powers and so does 76's
Winstons ult is powerful melee attacks and so is genjis

The difference between widows and this one would be that widows lets you see through walls
This one is just a radar like the radar in halo or the uav in cod
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Post Post #308 (isolation #22) » Fri Jun 24, 2016 3:14 am

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Actually gonna make that into two ideas

Character 1 Offensive character hybrid between 76 and widow

left click shoot bullets of assault rifle
right click aim down sights (Not a full sniper zoom, just an aim down sights)

Shift ability = Some kind of slide ability
E ability = throw a grenade that does damage

Ultimate = radar your team has access to for a short time


Character 2 Support sniper

left click shoot bullet of sniper rifle
right click Full zoom

This sniper riffle would be high impact built for long range only that would be shit at close range

Shift ability = Put up a little defensive barrier you can hide behind for a short time
E ability = Bullet that can heal ally it hits

Ultimate = Temporary cloak for yourself
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Post Post #309 (isolation #23) » Fri Jun 24, 2016 3:18 am

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In post 307, xRECKONERx wrote:Two snipers who both have supportive vision based ultimates would be very similar and very lazy, IMO.
Lazy yes but still useful I think. The one thing 76 lacks is an aim down sights and a radar to be truly the COD guy. So seeing another character with those is something I think some people would enjoy. Though it would be lazy, I think it would appeal to some.

Cloak would be obv cooler though and is by far the character type I want more. So I really hope sombra turns out to be like that second character I mentioned
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Post Post #311 (isolation #24) » Fri Jun 24, 2016 3:38 am

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I would be fine with the cloak you describe and it is the type I'd want

Considering all the hype surrounding sombra, her being a support sniper, and sombra meaning shadow in Spanish, I really think cloak may be an ability she ends up having
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Post Post #312 (isolation #25) » Fri Jun 24, 2016 4:07 am

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I just hope they do not add disguising to the game. Spy should be unique to team fortress and it is easily the most confusing and diffcult for noobs to play class.

I don't want 5 spys on my team in overwatch!
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Post Post #314 (isolation #26) » Fri Jun 24, 2016 8:20 am

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Character 2 Support sniper

left click shoot bullet of sniper rifle
right click Full zoom

This sniper riffle would be high impact built for long range only that would be shit at close range

Shift ability = Put up a little defensive barrier you can hide behind for a short time

E ability = Bullet that can heal ally it hits

Ultimate = Temporary cloak for yourself
Barrier would have health to it and basically act as a stationary wall you can snipe/stand behind until its dead

Widows ultimate would break this cloak, if someone shot you while you were cloaked you would become more visible for a second like when you shoot spy in tf2
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Post Post #342 (isolation #27) » Fri Jul 01, 2016 7:58 am

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PC got all necessary equipment and upgrades now

Game installing as I make this post

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Battle tag appears to be nojkoor1584#1461

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Post Post #343 (isolation #28) » Fri Jul 01, 2016 8:16 am

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In post 337, Psyche wrote:i got it and it's like a lot
widow seems to be the one who catches on quickest
appreciate her mix of mobility, range and and power
and your id is?

I already sent requests to everyone else that posted theirs
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Post Post #346 (isolation #29) » Sat Jul 02, 2016 5:22 am

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does this game require you to crouch a lot?
does this game require you to melee a lot?

shift is normally my crouch in pc games
left trigger is usually my melee in console games

using right stick for melee or using Lcontrol for couch, wondering which would be an easier transition for me.
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In post 346, PokerFace wrote:does this game require you to crouch a lot?
does this game require you to melee a lot?

shift is normally my crouch in pc games
left trigger is usually my melee in console games

using right stick for melee or using Lcontrol for couch, wondering which would be an easier transition for me.
OK my controls have been fixed. I don't use defaults at all. Too used to E for calling medic so I bound those abilites to F instead

Since most of my shifts are movement based and F's are weapons or self related
Swapped zarya's F and shift
Swapped Mei's F and shift

Most characters can't use their secondary while using their primary, or they have no secondary. V for melee feels disgusting to me

So I have right click as secondary for 8 characters and right click as melee for 12
I have middle mouse as secondary for 8 characters and middle mouse as melee for 12
(Reaper, Hanzo, Winston, Dva have no secondary so both mid and right are melee for me)
Reinhart's F is also my middle mouse and right is secondary since primary is melee
Bastion's Shift is also my right click since he has no secondary, middle is melee

Gonna have Lcontrol be my crouch since I don't seem to need it often
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Post Post #350 (isolation #31) » Sun Jul 03, 2016 3:41 am

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There needs to be a way to increase the outline size for team color. I mistake who is on my team often.
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Post Post #351 (isolation #32) » Tue Jul 05, 2016 1:26 am

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Spent probably too much of my time playing this last weekend.

Thought I would main
In post 34, PokerFace wrote:I enjoy a variety of shooters. If I get this i will probably main
Soldier 76 (He plays like he is from COD or Halo)
Junkrat (I feel he is most tf2 like character and i love explosives, probably gonna be my main main)
Roadhog (I was on a pro UT clan back in the day, i<3flak cannons)
Lucio (Seems like most fun support imo)
Now that I have played this, I am maining

Attack: 1)Reaper - 2)76
Defend: 1)Junkrat - 2)Hanzo
Tank: 1)Winston - 2)Reinhart
Support: 1)Symetra - 2)Lucio

I play characters that require little aim outside 76. Junkrat feels really good on koth to spam the hill when attacking and defend paths with spam. Biggest streak was 12 with junk and 17 with symetra.

Also I got my first legendary out of the 3rd loot box I ever opened. It was the scavenger skin for Dva. I'd like to get better with her because of it, but I feel Tanks need to shield their teammates. Take damage for their teammates, and I feel Winston and Reinhardt do that best
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Post Post #355 (isolation #33) » Wed Jul 06, 2016 10:35 pm

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In post 308, PokerFace wrote:
Character 2 Support sniper

left click shoot bullet of sniper rifle
right click Full zoom

This sniper riffle would be high impact built for long range only that would be shit at close range

Shift ability = Put up a little defensive barrier you can hide behind for a short time
E ability =
Bullet that can heal ally it hits


Ultimate = Temporary cloak for yourself
Cursaders crossbow in Overwatch hype
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Post Post #379 (isolation #34) » Fri Jul 08, 2016 1:59 am

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Junkrat also good at wrecking torb and bastion. Arc your grenades and get them from various ranges. High dps and spam
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Post Post #380 (isolation #35) » Fri Jul 08, 2016 2:21 am

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This game does have a learning curve. I was frustrated when i started playing. Now that I am learning what counters what and when to pick what, I am having more fun.

Still I feel this game is lacking in a few areas.

1. It
requires
more teamwork than tf2.
Someone picks the wrong class, your team comp is bad against what the enemy does, you will not have fun. Its always 6v6 instead of 12v12 or 9v9 like tf2, which gives you better odds of having a medic or someone with a brain on your team.

2. Instead of playing what you want to play, I feel this game forces you to play certain things.
In tf2 if I want to play demo and test a new loadout I can do that immediately on a lot of different maps and in the situations I want to test it. If I just want to play Heavy and there is an enemy good at stopping me, I can equip different weapons to counter them back and still play as heavy, the class I want to play as, and win. The elements of tf2 can casually adapt and even allow me to mess around as shotgun heavy for the lulz. If I want to play junkrat where I feel he is good, I need the right map with the right spam ability. And if I don't get those things, I won't win or have fun. I will have to play something else that I may not want to play.

3. Casual play is not easily viable
You can have fun in more ways with worse teams in tf2 while you can never have that in overwatch. I think I like tf2 more as you can carry your team easier in there and have fun playing what you want more easily. You can have 3 snipers on your team, and you can still win in tf2. You have 3 windows on your team, you will loose every game in overwatch. You have 3 engies in tf2 against you, there are many ways to win and play against it. You are against 3 torbs, 3 bastions, or a bastion with a rein in overwatch then you are forced to play certain things to maybe win. And if the entire team does not commit to this anti opponent strategy, then you lose!

4. Rank play requires leveling up in casual play to get into.
This may be a necessary evil at the moment
as I don't want trash on my team in ranked, but if I have trash on my team in casual, how will I level and win enough to get into ranked in the first place? Ranked requiring you to be good in casual feels wrong. I feel there needs to be 3 modes of play, casual, competitive and something "in between". Getting levels in "the in between" should get you into comp and provide you with people that want to play the game decently well. And casual should be more about messing around and testing and learning the game.

5. TF2 has mostly close range encounters (and characters with shotguns) overwatch has more ranged encounters and less characters with ranged adaptability.
I feel 76 has best mid range versatility and adaptability. And I didn't come to overwatch to play COD. I feel there needs to be more characters with mid range ability. You can flank and get into situations you want to be in with tf2. Overwatch's maps are more choke and ranged oriented while not many characters built for the way I want for the range I need. Fact Turrets have greater range in overwatch then sentries in tf2 also hinders the close range characters more in overwatch than it hinders the close range characters in tf2.

Overall the game caters more to itself instead of the player. You can't always play what you want to win and have fun


In this game I want to get better with D.va because I have a legendary but I have trouble doing what I want to do and figuring out how she plays. I feel I will only learn how to play as D.va by being in a situation where she is useful. And if I don't currently know what that situation is, I don't see how I will get good with her. I may have to play with you panzer to see how you and or other Dva players use her. When do most people get on and play? I need some Dva tips

Have you tried Mei Panzer? She is somewhat kawaii. Can put up walls to block turrets and then flank behind them
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Post Post #383 (isolation #36) » Fri Jul 08, 2016 2:53 am

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Edited my post some about my gripes with overwatch

may edit it more later when I don't have to get ready for a meeting at work

When do most people get on and play? We should have a group game night
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Post Post #386 (isolation #37) » Fri Jul 08, 2016 3:57 am

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my 4th point is the item that bothers me the least. Its arguably a necessary evil and a standard practice, but I still feel it needs to be handled differently and better, especially in game that requires a lot of teamwork. Having a heavily casual place to weed out people that want to run 6 snipers in a game, and in between area to get good, and a competitive place feels like a better means of handling things. I admit no one currently does that, but this game feels like it needs that, and needs it more than anyone other game needs it
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Post Post #387 (isolation #38) » Fri Jul 08, 2016 4:43 am

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This post emphisizes a point I made before about 76

We associate 76 with COD because of the popularity of COD. But really I feel he has aspects of many shooters

Healing regen ability comes from Halo 3
Secondary fire explosive, think Super dragon in pefect dark
Endless sprint is cod
aim bot ultimate cod and halo

I feel instead of just 76 there should have been two prototype popular shootet guys to play with

Generic Shooter Guy 1 (Versatile shooter guy similar to 76 currently)

Primary fire assault rifle
secondary helix rockets

E/F heal thing 76 currently has

Shift take cover behind an object or wall like feature
^First shift take cover behind an object. Shooting normally pops your gun around object like in 3rd person view and shoots with low accuracy. Second shift pops your body around to shoot like how you pop out of cover in arcade shooters.
Back away or move away from wall to stop taking cover

Ult aim bot 76 currently has


Generic Shooter Guy 2 (Specialized shooter guy more geared toward cod)

Primary fire assault rifle
secondary fire aim down sights

Shift endless sprint
E/F throw grenade
passive gain grenades from corpses like how torb gets scrap and reaper gets souls

Ult radar like in halo for you and entire team to access for short time
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Post Post #394 (isolation #39) » Fri Jul 08, 2016 9:26 am

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I have never played competitive COD nor do I ever want to as I only liked cod when it was about WW2. Once COD 3 came out, it had shitty WW2 story line with a bunch of qt events and had horribly unbalanced mutiplayer, I swear off cod.

I feel 76 is not truly the COD guy, he feels more like halo guy. And yes there is a difference. I don't want a radar. I just feel that and aim down sights are the things 76 lacks from being truly the COD guy. Though its true 76 has infinite sprint, which is a COD thing, they added infinite sprint in Halo 4. So I guess what 76 really feels like is "Halo 4 Guy". And I hated Halo 4! If I wanted to play halo 4 I would not be playing overwatch.

Halo 4 was the worst halo. It was not quite Halo 1-3 and not Quite Halo Reach and not quite Cod. Halo 4 was a game that didn't feel like it had a true identity. It tried to please and be a variety of genres and not be just one thing. I think I'd enjoy halo 4 if it was more like halo 1-3 and not some crappy side grade to what I really want. This is why I designed two different characters there. Generic shooter guy 1 is microsoft shooters (Think gears and halo) and generic guy 2 is COD guy. 76 feels like an in between generic shooter guy that is not what I really want. I'd rather he was two different guys. I'd rather have Microsoft Guy and Cod Guy, then just the crap in between.

What I actually want is a guy with actual good mid range power in this game. 76 feels the closest to being that guy. But he is not. He's moreso something I hate then something I want to play. Overwatch in some ways forces you to play what you don't want to play in order to win. And I hate that!
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Post Post #395 (isolation #40) » Fri Jul 08, 2016 10:00 am

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Soldier 76~Spartan 117. Guy that's suppose to be dead in overwatch lore but comes back. At start of Halo 4, Chief had been in cryo for years. Arbiter and the others thought he might be dead after halo 3. The two even have story connections!! If Master Chief fought 76, Chief would win. You aren't master chief, you are a crappy substitute and you ain't cod guy either. Don't be in between the two of them. Either be the classic COD guy I used to like or be the classic Halo guy I used to like! Don't be the COD that wants to be halo or the Halo that wants to be COD. When those two games try to be the same thing, they both suck!

I also want a guy that can deal a lot of damage like junkrat. But junkrat has range issues. Demoman has better range than junkrat. Shorter fuse on demoman's grenades. If demo man was in a fight with junkrat, Demoman would win.

I want an adaptable range high dps guy. Pharah feels more built for long range as you fly over people and rain down hell from above.

Overwatch gives me "a taste" of what I want, something close to what I want, but not what I really want. And it forces me to play what I don't want to play in some ways.
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Post Post #399 (isolation #41) » Fri Jul 08, 2016 11:56 am

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New Idea

Keep 76 the same and add:

Name: Maverick

Primary fire plasma rifle that over heats instead of reloads if you fire it too much
secondary fire aim down sights

Shift take cover behind an object or wall like feature
^First shift take cover behind an object. Shooting normally pops your gun around object like in 3rd person view and shoots with low accuracy. Second shift pops your body around to shoot like how you pop out of cover in arcade shooters.
Back away or move away from wall to stop taking cover

E/F throw grenade
passive gain grenades from corpses like how torb gets scrap and reaper gets souls

Ult Short period of time where your plasma gun won't overheat and you have endless pool of grenades

Now there's a guy that packs the range and power I want.
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Post Post #407 (isolation #42) » Sat Jul 09, 2016 3:10 am

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Panzerjager wrote:Is that at Poker Face?
I don't think so. I am not saying overwatch should be like other shooters. If anything I am saying each shooter should be themself (COD be COD, Halo be Halo, don't cross the streams) 76 shouldn't have been the cheap cod/halo substitute with good mid range. He should have been cod guy or halo guy only. Or he should not be in the game at all and I should have another better mid range character
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Post Post #419 (isolation #43) » Tue Jul 12, 2016 1:48 am

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Got second legendary, need to learn how to play tracer well as I got her ultra violet skin. Had some fun with her last night so she appears easier to learn than I thought

Really wish there was a trade skins feature
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Post Post #420 (isolation #44) » Tue Jul 12, 2016 12:13 pm

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New character announced it is the support sniper that is Pharah's mom but her and sombra are not the same person like a lot of people thought. Sombra will be somone else at another time. Ana is the new character with the crusaders crossbow like sniper rifle. She shoots and heals allies. Her shots deal damage over time and can't head shot which is weird. They basically combined Sidney Sleeper sniper with crusader crossbow medic. I kinda like it. Since she is built for body shots I think she will be a lot of people's go to sniper. I much perfer a sniper that can heal me over one that can't
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Post Post #422 (isolation #45) » Tue Jul 12, 2016 12:25 pm

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video that shows skins and abilities
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UTliwei7P6U
Ultimate strikes me as being very weak though.
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Post Post #427 (isolation #46) » Wed Jul 13, 2016 4:44 am

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gonna need to try ptr on weekend to give her a try. Probably won't have time to play until then

Had a lot of fun with Zarya last night. Weapon is spammable in secondary and easy to aim with the steady stream in primary. Her weapon getting charge independent of ultimate is cool. If you see a teamate get an ulti or charge in, immediately shield them. You get into trouble, shield panic button. If you see a teamate get flash banged, hooked, or anything that can generate a two hit combo then use shield on them since they are due to take the second hit any moment. The dps her guns gets over time is huge. I had 100 charge in gun a couple times last night. Once hit any enemy team with her ulti and then made use of 100 charge gun's secondary to get a quad kill. Having alot of fun with her since she can do dps, support, and tank all at once if youu are willing to put in the work. Not easy to learn character

Will cut down on tf2 comparisons for you reck
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Post Post #428 (isolation #47) » Wed Jul 13, 2016 5:00 am

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In Ana's intro video she says "Eliminate this target" when hitting roadhog with the e ability grenade. That grenade makes them not take heals and it might make them more easily visible to your team. Or at least I hope it will (Kinda like how hanzo and widow can see enemies through walls, I hope you can see the target you hit with that weapon through walls or at least see that character's health through walls). The ability to see through walls is huge when widow and hanzo give it to their team. Ana lacking that ability would hinder her ability to support her team. Her shots on enemies do seem to make them glow purple so perhaps that will point them out some. Or make them take more damage for a short time (About as long as the damage over time poison lasts). I also hope the sleep ability points out its targets some. Her providing some scout ability would be a cool added support effect to any of her skills. I need to try her out

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XbzRwssqMtU
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Post Post #430 (isolation #48) » Wed Jul 13, 2016 6:58 am

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yes that's why I said
PokerFace wrote:gonna need to try ptr on weekend to give her a try. Probably won't have time to play until thenProbably won't have time to play until then
and marquis said
Marquis wrote:have been playing PTR. ulti is top tier and scary af. don't even need an ult, reinahrdt hammers become inescapable
Though I can't say whether I agree with this or not until I get the time to play
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Post Post #433 (isolation #49) » Wed Jul 13, 2016 2:35 pm

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There's a little lightning bolt with a circular arrow that appears near top left corner of my screen. What does that mean?

Next patch is doing alot of good
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=No2mH5_c494
Fixing the problems I have with Dva and her very weak shield
Making Mcree comparable to 76 in mid range damage
Zenyatta getting buffed hugely!
Adding Ana
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Post Post #436 (isolation #50) » Thu Jul 14, 2016 2:00 am

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Shielding yourself or an ally as they fight a torb turret builds serious gun charge for zarya
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Post Post #438 (isolation #51) » Sun Jul 17, 2016 5:46 am

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Played PTR. Ana is okay. She is more of a supportive support, and by that I feel she can't support the entire team by herself. You usually need another healer like lucio since he does mostly close range healing anyway. Ana can then take care of the long range. If Ana is your only support you may need to have a zarya and or 76 on your team to provide some levels of extra support

Dva and Zenyatta are so much better in the update. Mcree feels good range wise now as an alternative to 76 so in general I like the update

The PTR does leave me with 1 question. I had to play junkrat to get a win on one map and got an achievement, was awarded a pixel spray. I also earned a mcree voice line, not sure how. But basically those 2 items I can only access in PTR where I got them. And the ptr dos not have all the skins and some stuff I unlocked in my normal america region. So will I get the two things I earned in ptr in my normal region eventually when the update happens or am I stuck only accessing certain things in certain regions. And if thats the case, thats kinda dumb
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Post Post #440 (isolation #52) » Mon Jul 18, 2016 2:04 am

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Good to know. Still strikes me as a dumb thing. I should get access to the two items when the update happens in my book

The only character I have not played yet is widow maker. I never have been much of a sniper. Hanzo and Ana don't require headshots or accuracy, they require support and spamming arrows

I'd like to try her but not be the second, worse sniper on my team. Whenever I play, someone always picks her, even when on offense where its pretty dumb. Its not the dumbest thing you can do on offense. Playing torb or bastion when you don't have a payload to sit on is likely the dumbest thing

Playing symetra on offense is slightly viable. Had a game on Volskaya Industries where we got point A and then the enemy junkrat ultimated killing everyone but me. I was busy placing a teleporter pretty close to cap point B. As my team came through it, they all said wtf on microphones or team chat. We beat the map in a stupid fast time, I think around 3:30. Really wish I had recorded it. Sadly the enemy junkrat got play of the game when I really deserved it.
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Post Post #442 (isolation #53) » Tue Jul 19, 2016 1:49 pm

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PokerFace wrote:There's a little lightning bolt with a circular arrow that appears near top left corner of my screen. What does that mean?

Next patch is doing alot of good
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=No2mH5_c494
Fixing the problems I have with Dva and her very weak shield
Making Mcree comparable to 76 in mid range damage
Zenyatta getting buffed hugely!
Adding Ana
That lightning bolt indicates lag

The update is now live in all regions
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Post Post #443 (isolation #54) » Thu Jul 21, 2016 11:17 am

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I have earned enough to do competitive. Should I get a group of people or just jump in?
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Post Post #448 (isolation #55) » Fri Jul 22, 2016 1:46 am

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GuyInFreezer wrote:So I reached the point where my "can't aim well" is biting my rear.

Also I should really stop playing Mercy like how I play Medic in TF2 lol
(Syringe gun + saw just too good. And no, I don't combat medic.)
The medic in tf2 can defend himself while mercy is not so good at that

I would suggest trying Lucio or Ana. Ana's sleep dart and self heal grenade are great for sustaining and defending yourself. Lucio's self heal and speed are great for pushing points

Ana pairs well with roadhog big target to hit and can increase his heals
Lucio pairs well with rienhart fast moving powerful shield
Mercy works well with zarya, pocket that healer
Zenny and Winston work well as they counter each others weaknesses
Symetra can shield dva when in mech and when not keeping her going in either state
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Post Post #449 (isolation #56) » Fri Jul 22, 2016 1:47 am

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In post 447, Psyche wrote:when should mei E under herself?
When you want to use icewall to get to a high place
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Post Post #452 (isolation #57) » Fri Jul 22, 2016 2:08 am

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Symettra is better at being a builder than a support

Symetra should not be your only support.
Same with Ana. You got to know the vantage points you can walk to. So learn the maps well before using her

Zenny can rarely work as your only support

Mercy and lucio can work as solo supports
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Post Post #453 (isolation #58) » Fri Jul 22, 2016 2:13 am

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This weeks weekly brawl is Ana and tanks only. I would think ideal koth and attack/defend comp would be 2 roadhogs, 2 anas, 2 zaryas. Zaryas and roadys take the point with enough shields for all. Ana's snipe into the hill

For payload 1 ana, and 1 of each tank
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Post Post #454 (isolation #59) » Fri Jul 22, 2016 2:16 am

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In post 451, PJ. wrote:Ana is weird. She's a sniper but she can't get to any of the vantage points.
You got to know the vantage points you can walk to. So learn the maps well before using her
Focus on vantage points where you can see your team, seeing the enemy is not as important with ana. Or play with a mei that boosts you with ice wall to a vantage point

Ana can defend herself so getting up high and out of enemy sight is not as important

Making an enemy sleep for long time has more value than stunning them and trying to kill them sometimes
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Post Post #455 (isolation #60) » Fri Jul 22, 2016 4:28 am

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After lots of playtime with patch now and in ptr there are a few things I'd like to change

D.vas
defense matrix lasts based on time and not damage absorbed. So it is capable of stopping more then reinhart's shield but for a shorter time. So she can deal with torb and bastion better than reinhart. I was able to block more damage with her shield in a game yesterday than I had ever blocked in one game as rienhart. Based on this I think her shield is now too powerful. The shield currently lasts for 4s max. Yo can deploy it then must wait at least 1 second to deploy it again. Takes 4s for it to get back to max. You can deploy the shield while its not at max for a shorter time of having it up.

The 1 second for every deploy needs increased to 2 seconds or the recharge to get back to full needs increased to 6s. It should not recharge at an equal use rate or become usable every 1 second. It needs greater down time in general. That way you are forced to go longer without it if you just used it all the way up.

Dvas ultimate is super powerful now. I can understand making her survive her own ultimate now since it helps players use it and there are a few characters that take no damage from their own skills already like junkrat and his bomb as well as pharah and her concussion blast. Also making her survive it, helps people who want to play as dva so you can keep her survival from the blast. BUT the self destruct is now a 3s fuse instead of a 4s. I had trouble last night telling if it was my teams dva or the enemies dva that was blowing up. The red and yellow exclamation warnings were not coming quick or long enough. One time the warnings did not happen at all on my screen and I died so I say move it back to a 4s fuse instead of the 3. And whatever bug allows those warnings to not appear sometimes, needs fixed

Also there is another bug with new dva, people have used her self destruct, summoned their mech back, and after that they can not shoot. They can only use matrix, they effectively can not kill anyone. I got this bug to happen once to me last night. And in researching the net it appears blizzard is aware of this bug. Its a very rare bug but a horrible one since you can't shoot at all. This bug absolutely needs fixed

Symetra
needs changed. She gives shields and then there is nothing she can give to her team. If that team mate looses that small 25 health shield they must take cover to bring it back. While the shield is gone or at zero there is no indicator that this teamate was ever given a shield.

If you have a symetra shield and it goes down you should hear something that tells you your shield is down so you are more encouraged to take cover while it comes back. Symetra should be able to give that shield back to the teamate immediately if she sees they don't have it currently. However buffing symetra in this way will likely require her shields to have a cool down so she is unable to shield someone indefinatly from constant damage. Ana can't constant heal, she has to shoot multiple bullets. Figure out ammount of time it takes between Anas shots and make that the cool down for symetra's new shields. Also if you are symetra you should get some indicator in the hud that shows a teamate lacks a shield from a distance. Currently you get the arrows over your teamates head but can't tell they lack a shield from far away unless you see their health. And if you just forgot you gave them a shield at the start of the match and they lost it, you can't tell that when you get to them. So showing a little shield under the arrow or a shield with or without a line through it, would be a great slight cosmetic change to help actually make her a support

Bastion
for some reason is not considered a builder while symetra and torb are. So is giving shields and armor what really makes you a builder? Seems wrong. Game should consider Bastion as a builder. This may encourage people to use torb + bastion less since you will more quickly fufill the defense builder requirement or exceed it. And game should give warnings about using torb and or bastion on payload offense. I see people in quickplay use torb and bastion for attack too often and it eventually ruins the team. Something saying you have too many builders on offense should come up more often especially since symetra is arguably trash on offense. Game currently more often warns you of too many defense characters on your team as apposed to too many builders. It should give the defense character warning less often especially since some defense characters like junkrat are great on offense.

Mercy
got her ability to get res nerfed since her self heal now contributes some to building her ultimate. She currently can boost a teammate attack by 30%. In PTR they removed mercy's being able to stack onto a player and allowed her to boost them by 50%. I don't think I ever saw double mercy on a team so that was really nothing but they eventually reverted that back to 30%. I think because they didn't want her to be used more than zennyatta . Buffing zenny was a big thing. He absolutely needed it. But in doing all this they nerfed mercy overall. They should crank mercy's thing up to 40%. This way they can do what they intended to do with mercy's team mate boost. Make it an effective way for teamates to protect mercy so she does not have to rely on her practically useless gun. And this way she won't take away players from playing zenny. Zenny will still be the glass cannon battle medic

Thats all I can think of at the moment
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Post Post #461 (isolation #61) » Fri Jul 22, 2016 3:38 pm

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InflatablePie wrote:30% on Mercy damage boost seems fine, 50% made Soldier and McCree OP iirc. Didn't they buff her skill where she jumps to teammates? Something about letting you ult in mid flight now. Overall Mercy seems fine IMO.

As a Zen "main" these buffs are nice. Kinda bummed they nerfed his damage but I'd much rather not explode if a Pharah looks at me so I'm not really complaining
Yes mercy's "fly to teamates" was buffed and she was given the power to move like that while resurecting teamates. Basically she was no longer a huge target while resurecting, so yes she did get buffed in terms of evasion but not in terms of defense truly. Blizz said they wanted to make the boost teamates her main means of defending herself over her gun. Had they kept some slight buff on that like 40%, I think they would have succeeded in the defending herself category more.

I was unaware of the 50% thing boosting McCree and 76 being a problem
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Post Post #463 (isolation #62) » Fri Jul 22, 2016 3:51 pm

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In post 457, InflatablePie wrote:
I just want "no supports" for team tips in red instead of yellow like how no offense heroes etc is.
And get rid of "no builder/sniper".

Also pls let me switch skins in hero select
I agree with the bolded 100%

The unbolded I would agree to if Bastion was considered a builder. And if you kept in the warnings about too many builders and too many snipers when you got too many of those. Since having too many of them is worse than having none at all. Also not requiring people to have 1 builder and 1 sniper would likely lead to more originality in people's defenses. So if done right the unbolded, I can completely get behind

P-edit: I'd play but I got to go to bed shortly, got to wake up early
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Post Post #464 (isolation #63) » Fri Jul 22, 2016 3:54 pm

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In post 462, InflatablePie wrote:it might have been just McCree, but I don't quite remember. I lurk r/competitiveoverwatch and r/overwatchuniversity and only vaguely remember people talking about that.

I'd be down for playing tonight but most of my time this evening is going to be spent marathoning Bojack Horseman, may jump on for a bit sporadically though
Considering how nerfing McCrees damage was huge, what you say makes sense. McCree needed his range back to be viable with the damage nerf. I get why they nerfed McCree's range in the beta but nerfing his damage was really what they needed to do all along

Glad he got his range back
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Post Post #467 (isolation #64) » Mon Jul 25, 2016 1:33 am

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vonflare wrote:
'No sniper' is the stupidest tooltip ever.


Zero snipers is the sweet spot for an effective team, unless they are really good.
I'd rather have no sniper than a shitty one

I got some serious games in as roadhog last weekend. I am pretty good with all 5 of the tanks now and prefer tank over the other groups. Zarya is becoming my favorite as she has a panic button shield for herself, can take and deal a lot when her gun is up and support the team when needed. The best team comp is 2 support, 2, tank, 2 O/D. If you can't get 2 tank or 2 support, going Zarya when you have 1 tank and 1 support is a good decision to help fill both gaps
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Post Post #469 (isolation #65) » Tue Jul 26, 2016 1:40 am

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People like to start with simple concepts that they already know. This is why a lot of people play 76 and widow. The sniper class appeals to a lot of people as its in every shooter. Sadly more people suck at video games than do well so I've often had shitty snipers on my team and thus hated sniping all together. So I've put off trying widow for awhile. I finally gave her a try last night. Did not anticipate she would fill the mid to long range aim down sights gap I have been wanting to fill.

The skill I feel I lack the most in this game is timing my ultimate well. The fact that her ultimate is the most accessible to the "just throw it out there strategy" and fact it supports the team quite well, made me happy and not nervous when it came to using my ult

Camping is not really my style. I like being aggressive. So I played her that way, getting probably half my kills with her rapid fire smg shots. Used her venom mine to control space much like a grenade. Got 20 kills over a course of 3 lives (Only died twice) and got an achievement while only playing her once last night. I think I have found my alternative to Junkrat on defense for when I need accuracy as apposed to rapid high damage spam
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Post Post #470 (isolation #66) » Tue Jul 26, 2016 5:53 am

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Also last night I used Dva on dorado once, using he jets to boost over the wall and onto the payload. Killed the enemy pharah and junkrat who didn't turn around. The enemy Reaper and lucio did turnaround so I used my ult. They had to run away while I was able to stay and cap it for the win. Had the mechs fuse been at 4 seconds it would have been even easier for me. Surviving the explosion and denying the enemy's ability to enter an area for 4 seconds may be too powerful so perhaps the 3 seconds is best for now

The enemy reinhart and mei were further away walling off my team so I did not need to kill them. They didn't realize I was there and got real salty in the chat, I told the mei to just "let it go"... I will walk away now
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Post Post #472 (isolation #67) » Tue Jul 26, 2016 1:24 pm

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I think you quoted the wrong post there

btw how much damage does dvas ult do spread out over what range?

I played some roadhog and survived a dva ult that I really didn't think I would. Had full and then had 50 after it blew up
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Post Post #477 (isolation #68) » Wed Jul 27, 2016 2:22 am

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^Do you need similar levels as those you play with to get balanced competitive matches?

I'm currently level 32-34 can't remember where I was when I stopped playing quickplay last night
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Post Post #479 (isolation #69) » Wed Jul 27, 2016 5:55 am

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Then do I need people roughly my level to play ranked with me to get good placement in my 10 games?
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Post Post #483 (isolation #70) » Wed Jul 27, 2016 7:06 am

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I was asking if those I play with shound be same level as me. I have not played any competitive yet only quickplay

based on what you said I should not play with someone level 70 on my tream or I will get put against people I can't beat and thus get bad placement

Jahudo and I have been considering running Zarya and Zenny, pocketing each other with good support and dps to see how that works in comp. I forget what level Jahudo is. If he is too high by comparison it might be better for me to party up with you to do ZZ fighting. You good at Zarya or Zenny?
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Post Post #486 (isolation #71) » Wed Jul 27, 2016 8:26 am

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I realize rank is comp only

If I want to get a good rank, do I need to play with a team of people similar to my level?

Based on what you said earlier it sounded like you were saying yes and now it seems like you are saying no

If level does not matter at all, then why require a 25 level to enter comp in the first place? Feels like they should be requiring something else as a better measurement of skill than expierence
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Post Post #490 (isolation #72) » Wed Jul 27, 2016 8:59 am

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I get that

Is there a certain group of people I should play competitive with? Yes or No/does not matter?

If yes, then who are those people and why?

P-edit: So you say no/does not matter hito?
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Post Post #495 (isolation #73) » Thu Jul 28, 2016 2:22 am

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Ok I got it all now. Level in QP means less than Jack not just Jack as I had thought

It would be best to queue with people the same rank as me. As I have no idea what my rank is, its best to solo queue through placements. (x=?)

Then after I get a rank (after I know what X is), its best to queue with people of same rank to get good. All is figured out

Should be noted as stated before Overwatch is the first blizzard game I have ever played, never played league of legends

Thanks for info hito, bins, panzer
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Post Post #499 (isolation #74) » Thu Jul 28, 2016 4:53 am

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I don't think you missed anything with regards to sombra leaks

A support stealth character would be cool as long as its not OP or a ripoff of something from game reck don't want me mentioning
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Post Post #500 (isolation #75) » Thu Jul 28, 2016 4:56 am

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After playing some more with Ana and widow. Widow makes me play mid to long range aggressive character while ana makes me play backfield mid-long range support character. Considering how Hanzo works (make me play longe range sniper spammer, good aim not required) I really like what blizzard did with sniper classes

Hanzo has most mobility (Can always wall climb no cool down) and least defensive moves. Fact you got to draw/charge the bow makes his lack of defense even more evident

Ana has most defensive abilities and least mobility moves. ability to heal self and put enemies to sleep so you can run away

Widow has best balance of defense and mobility (Grapple has a cool down)
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Post Post #501 (isolation #76) » Thu Jul 28, 2016 4:58 am

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Builder class was handled similarly by blizzard

Torb should be most front line builder. Get that scrap, armor your friends, build and get kills at front lines

Sym is mid line builder. Give shields, turrets good for locking down certain areas not so much points or front lines

Bastion is back line gaurd. You are immobile turret after all (Seriously why isn't this guy considered builder when you select him, bliz please fix)
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Post Post #505 (isolation #77) » Thu Jul 28, 2016 11:07 am

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In post 503, hitogoroshi wrote:Symetrra is a support not just for the shield but because her teleporter is effectively a delayed rez. Dead folks are back on the field sooner much sooner than they otherwise would be.
I did not say symetra was not support, I just said she was a builder. She is both though probably the worst of each. This is why I mentioned some changes she should get to her shields to make her more of a support, because if you aren't warping to point A, the teleporters are practically useless. If the enemy is heading toward Last your tele's are trash. I kinda wish she could select between two different ultimates in that sense, get something more useful in that scenario though it would likely make her too powerful
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Post Post #506 (isolation #78) » Fri Jul 29, 2016 4:09 am

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Thought of how Bliz can fix Symetra. Aside from doing this:
In post 455, PokerFace wrote:
Symetra
needs changed. She gives shields and then there is nothing she can give to her team. If that team mate looses that small 25 health shield they must take cover to bring it back. While the shield is gone or at zero there is no indicator that this teamate was ever given a shield.

If you have a symetra shield and it goes down you should hear something that tells you your shield is down so you are more encouraged to take cover while it comes back. Symetra should be able to give that shield back to the teamate immediately if she sees they don't have it currently. However buffing symetra in this way will likely require her shields to have a cool down so she is unable to shield someone indefinatly from constant damage. Ana can't constant heal, she has to shoot multiple bullets. Figure out ammount of time it takes between Anas shots and make that the cool down for symetra's new shields. Also if you are symetra you should get some indicator in the hud that shows a teamate lacks a shield from a distance. Currently you get the arrows over your teamates head but can't tell they lack a shield from far away unless you see their health. And if you just forgot you gave them a shield at the start of the match and they lost it, you can't tell that when you get to them. So showing a little shield under the arrow or a shield with or without a line through it, would be a great slight cosmetic change to help actually make her a support
To improve the utility of her teleporters, make them give off health like a dispenser. I know it steals from TF2, but this way they are useful when defending last and not OP. A stationary object you have to run to, to get health does not sound that powerful and may actually help the enemy find the tele since people will be running to it to get HP.

Currently Lucio is best support character choice for KOTH. Zenny, Mercy, and Ana are tied for second. Symetra is 3rd/worst support choice for it. With these changes I think she is a viable second option.
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Post Post #508 (isolation #79) » Thu Aug 04, 2016 2:22 am

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Had a game last night where I went 22k 0d as zarya. Gold medals in everything except healing. I came very close to dying at one point. Enemy zarya used ult, enemy D.va followed it with her ult. I was caught in goldestine with my team. Shielded myself and because team was stacked behind me in the gravity ball, my shield and I absorbed the Dva ult completly. No one on the team died from it because they were so small they fit behind me as I barriered. I love my Russian Princess

Also apparently there were some unreleased patch notes with the Aug2 update. I chose to play as symetra at one point last night and I noticed the text 'No healer' on the character select screen. Instead of saying 'No support' the game now says 'No healer', and symetra is rightfully not considered a healer despite being a support. I am gonna need to do some research to see if 76 is considered a healer, if bastion is now a builder, and or if there are any other character select tip changes.
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Post Post #511 (isolation #80) » Thu Aug 04, 2016 4:19 am

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SXTLHGaiden wrote:
In post 508, PokerFace wrote:Also apparently there were some unreleased patch notes with the Aug2 update.
http://us.battle.net/forums/en/overwatc ... 0747925082
Made several minor improvements to the way hero selection tips work:
The "No Builder" and "No Sniper Hero" warnings have been removed
"No Support Hero" now reads as "No Healer" (does not apply to Symmetra)
Hero selection tips are no longer displayed during team assembly in a Brawl
Ok I missed those posts about the tip changes. Glad the "No sniper" and "No builder" things are gone

Does not sound like 76 is considered a healer or bastion a builder but will test anyway when I get the chance
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Post Post #523 (isolation #81) » Thu Aug 04, 2016 11:55 pm

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vonflare wrote:
In post 511, PokerFace wrote: Does not sound like 76 is considered a healer or bastion a builder but will test anyway when I get the chance
"no builder" tag is gone
ftfy

"no builder" may be gone but is "too many builder" gone?

Have a team go all bastion and see if too many builder warning is there. see if no healer is there. Have one player switch to 76. See if no healer tag goes away. may be difficult to test without help but maybe i can talk teammates into doing it against AI on easy

This sunday I will be sitting down to play all my placement matches in a row. The no hero stacking in comp was a bad change. Should let at most 2 people play the same character or character type. That way you avoid trolls and get good games.

Having good team = wins. Carrying in TF2 is easier than in this game because 1-3 idiot among 12 on your team can be survivable. 1-3 idiot of 6 never survivable. I tried to play a comp game once, but the game got canceled. We were on offense. People on team picked Ana, Hanzo, Widow, Bastion. Yay was poorly designed team. I picked Rein thinking blocking for those 4 was best chance I had. Last guy on our team quit out. Can't say I blame him. As he quit during start up, game went into a cancellation phase. Seems dumb to cancel a game over someone leaving but given the situation I don't feel bad having that game never happen. Glad it didn't count against me. I also don't think it should have counted against who quit on our team given rest of our team was dumb or trolling. Didn't go back into comp as I wanted to avoid getting paired with that trash team again
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Post Post #525 (isolation #82) » Fri Aug 05, 2016 8:42 am

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It was wednesday and first match i tried to join in competitive. Either it happened because it was their first competitive match too and they were dumb or them peeps were trolling. Only explanation I could come to. Regardless of why it happened, I didn't go back into comp after as I didn't want it to happen again

It said the cancel would not count against me since all players got sent back to main menu. Personally I don't think the leaver should have been penalized there because he honestly did me a favor. I didn't want to play with that shit on my team in comp either. I don't think anyone wants to play with that shit on their team when on offence
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Post Post #530 (isolation #83) » Sun Aug 07, 2016 10:40 am

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76 not considered healer. Bastion still not builder.

Still think bastion should be considered that. The too many snipers happens on offense, but not too many builders. That needs to happen! I went 45 in placements. Too many builders is worse than too many snipers on offense. Had 3 losses because people were running 1 builder or running 2 snipers on offense. Builders only remotely work on offence if you have a payload for them to ride. If there is no payload, you are not just shooting yourself in the foot, you are shooting yourself in the foot twice!

If I leave during
setup
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Post Post #533 (isolation #84) » Thu Aug 11, 2016 2:21 am

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Character's I'd like to see

Doomfist = Tank Hand to hand character

Has 500 health

LMB Punch
RMB Projectile punch, while its launched out you can not regular punch or e ability until it comes back to you

E ability = AOE ground pound see trailer where kid does it to widow maker, have him gain some health based on damage this does
Shift = Fist Fade, like lucio's crossfade, but you switch between buffing your teamates defense only or increasing your attack power only (Savior or Scourge?)
Your defense is not buffed just your nearby teamates)

Ultimate = Doom Wall, Similar to Reinhart and DVAs shields. This shield blocks everything in front of it for a short time. Not just projectiles, and does not have a limit of how much damage it can block, its time based. Doomfist can use his rocket punch to attack while this shield is up. Dva and Rienhart can't attack during their shields

Sombra = Stealth Support


Ultimate = Turn invisible for short time

Other ability's ??
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Post Post #538 (isolation #85) » Thu Aug 11, 2016 9:56 am

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That idea is mostly a rough draft So i appreciate criticism. How do you believe Roadhog mitigates damage without a shield?
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Post Post #542 (isolation #86) » Fri Aug 12, 2016 1:28 am

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When I see RH I think Reinhardt before I thing Road Hog for some reason. Need to re-read some of what you said with that in mind as it confused me. I think that's why I call them Rein and Hog.

Doom fist will likely be a tank and a large character like Hog. Punching and throwing fists will likely be his main abilities. The ground pound punch the kid in the trailer did feels too similar to what Rein's ult already does. It would just be more AOE like that Wave in front of you. Not different enough imo. This is why I still think some ability that steal energy or health from others would be the way to go to heal Doomfist. This is also why I suggest his Ult be a shield since no one else has shield on ult.

The ground pound may be better suited to rmb and to have a short cool down or 100 gain per target hit. That could work. And rocket or projectile fist may be better suited for e ability. Rein's projectile is E afterall. (Symetra, torb, and bast turrets are same button. Zar and sym team ate shield is same button). Perhaps 1 hand is for punching and AOE while the other is a projectile.

Lucio's shift would be similar to the Doomfist shift I still have in mind. Switch between two options. But this time its buff your team or buff yourself, Savior or Scourge. Zenyatta kinda lowers enemy defense right now since he makes enemy's take double damage. Making team mates take 30% less while you still take full would be interesting I think.
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Post Post #546 (isolation #87) » Wed Aug 24, 2016 1:53 pm

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Reaper can wraith form and survive the roadhog combo pretty well.

Winston and DVA can run away from reaper with their shift abilities but I have only found Zarya effective at killing reaper
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Post Post #553 (isolation #88) » Fri Sep 09, 2016 3:10 am

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2094 after my 10 placements

also when i grouped up with Jahudo for some qp it said 1149 as a group ranking for comp. So apparently you get two rankings. 1 is your solo and is always effected while the other is only when you group up with people. Jahudo has not done ranked yet so that rank must be from when i grouped up with some people previously. I had a feeling I was way better than those guys on my team and I was carrying them. Guess that confirms it

I got 45 in season one and they said in season 2 you should get roughly season 1 rank multiplied by 50. So I should be about 2250. Need to not play with those guys I randomly grouped with again. They dragged me down 2250 - 2094 = 156
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Post Post #554 (isolation #89) » Fri Sep 09, 2016 3:16 am

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Is it within 50 or 100 for groups in season 2? I would be up for 3 tank 3 support with you pie assuming we can rank together and if not we can test this out in qp
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Post Post #556 (isolation #90) » Fri Sep 09, 2016 6:59 am

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2094/2 = 1047

I could be mis-remembering and it may have been 1047 instead of 1149

so you may be correct
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Post Post #558 (isolation #91) » Mon Sep 12, 2016 2:12 am

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I have grown to like Roadhog and no longer think he is worst tank. He may not be a true tank as he lacks a shield but he is still pretty good. I feel he is most complete character since he can win alot of 1v1's, heal himself, provide dps and be a tank. I think the hardest tank for me to play as is Winston. He feels more like a counter tank to run against Genji, Symetra, tracer, etc than a teams primary tank

Played a game on volskaya when i was Rein for first half and Zarya for second. Got 4 golds mostly for zarya play but got potg as rien because I spent my ult on knocking down the mercy and the zarya she was pocketing. Whenever I see mercy I make it a point to kill her and everyone should do the same
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Post Post #562 (isolation #92) » Fri Sep 16, 2016 8:47 am

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I think the current meta is
Support Lucio, Zen
Tank (two of) Zarya, Rien, Winston, Hog, DVA
DPS (two of) Mcree, Genji, Tracer, Reaper

If it weren't for Genji and Tracer being there, Winston would not be there either

Also Dva is pretty good at stopping reaper with defense matrix
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Post Post #564 (isolation #93) » Sun Oct 09, 2016 11:21 am

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All signs point to halloween update being Oct 11. Sombra may or may not be out then. She may be in PTR while other regions have halloween

I got feeling Sombra will fill a niche role like Symetra. I am looking forward to new character but I don't think she will be a character I will enjoy much. I want more tanks in the game and if the leaks are correct, she won't be that

I am more hype for Halloween than Sombra. Junkrat getting Doctor Frankenstein Costume. I want him to have Gene Wilder Young Frankenstein voice lines so bad!
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Post Post #565 (isolation #94) » Tue Oct 11, 2016 7:58 am

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Halloween update announced
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jupt7Dh-Fgk
We need to work together to stop a horde. We need to pick a day to be on and do this before Nov 1
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Post Post #568 (isolation #95) » Wed Oct 12, 2016 7:15 am

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The brawl only allows you to be 76, McCree, Hanzo or Ana. I thought that may be comic related or original overwatch crew related, but then why would Hanzo be in and Torb not be? Feels weird. I hope its not because they didn't have time to code certain things or disallowed certain characters because they were broken (too good or too bad).

Only one of those 4 I play often is 76. Others I rarely use. Anyone want to organize a game night to take this thing on?
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Post Post #570 (isolation #96) » Wed Oct 12, 2016 8:12 am

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I should have some time this weekend. How many hours behind is Denver Flameaxe, GMT-6?

I believe I am in GMT-4. Anyone good with Mccree and Hanzo?

You have to use each character once in your party so no doubling
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Post Post #572 (isolation #97) » Wed Oct 12, 2016 8:45 am

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saturday or sunday? what time?

waiting for someone to claim McCree and Hanzo

Strategy most people are using is hold ults for bosses (Reaper, Roadhog, Junk, Mercy)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2cO-Z7b4jmE
When boss appears McCree ults and Ana boosts him. Hanzo then ults to kill what is left of boss after McCree's high noon. 76 uses his ult to get riptires and or large groups that get near the castle door. 3 people focus bosses when they appear, 76 is cleanup/relief hitter for uunexpected stuff since his aimbot can lock on and is not as valuable as McCree's dead eye

76 heals people as they guard door. Ana boosts that heal with the grenade
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Post Post #577 (isolation #98) » Tue Oct 18, 2016 6:08 am

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Was that match comp or quickplay? I am confused^

I love Junkrat but feel he has a lot of obvious weaknesses. He is best at long to medium range, his abilities fall off after that. Also every tank except Roadhog can counter him with their shield. Odds of enemy team having at least 1 tank that is not Roadhog, are pretty good. I've gotten 4 golds with him often but not as often won matches. He is great at dealing damage and getting kills but does not help his team nearly as much as most characters.

Blizzard speed up his ultimate since it could not combo with many given its slow start up. You had to pre-fire it big time to combo it with Zarya or Rein before. You don't have to do that as much now. Despite that buff, I still feel Junkrat is weak. Something I wish they would do is when you are controlling the tire, you see your health in the bottom left and the tire health in the bottom right. This way you know if someone is attacking you as you are controlling the tire. Being only able to see the tire health and having it in the left when it should be on the right (its a weapon after all and that's where ammo health should be) feels wrong. Currently you are only told when your character dies as you are controlling the tire. You can't really save yourself at that point.

Also Dva no longer hurts herself with her ult. Junkrat still hurts himself with his. Come on Bliz!
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Post Post #579 (isolation #99) » Tue Oct 18, 2016 8:07 am

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Halloween and ptr updates came out last week. Seeing Sombra come to PTR with some symetra changes would be nice. My overwatch wishlist is as follows

1. New Tank Character
2. Sombra
3. Symetra Retooling
4. Junkrat ult buff
5. Mei ult nerf (I have been standing
above
the robot. On a completly different floor above it and flying far above it as Pharah and still gotten frozen. WTF)
6. Rein ult nerf (I have been flying far
above
it as Pharah and still gotten shattered to the ground. WTF)
7. Roadhog hook nerf (If you can't see the person you are hooking, you shouldn't be able to hook them. Various youtube videos of people going through walls and even buses on numbani exist)

If the ability violates simple logic like I am off screen or flying above where the ult takes place, I should not get hit by it
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Post Post #580 (isolation #100) » Tue Oct 18, 2016 8:18 am

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In post 579, PokerFace wrote:7. Roadhog hook nerf (If you can't see the person you are hooking, you shouldn't be able to hook them. Various youtube videos of people going through walls and even buses on numbani exist)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rEMPE6YCOc8
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Post Post #583 (isolation #101) » Tue Oct 18, 2016 12:59 pm

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In post 579, PokerFace wrote: 5. Mei ult nerf (I have been standing
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the robot. On a completly different floor above it and flying far above it as Pharah and still gotten frozen. WTF)
This ult's also need to stop going through walls if that robot is on the other side of the wall, I can't see the robot, it shouldn't hit me
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Post Post #587 (isolation #102) » Wed Oct 19, 2016 2:22 am

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Clumsy wrote:From my experience, walls do stop it.
From my experience it does not. At least on eichenvalde it doesn't. I was on the other side of that door you break through while it was still unbroken. Freezing robot went off on outside of castle, I was frozen while still inside the castle. Genji that ran inside to fight me got a free kill.

Also I think their may be a bug with trancendce or mei's ult may just be buggy. I was playing some bots in player vs ai for the lulz while I was mei. I used my blizzard at the exact moment the bot zenyatta used trancesendence. Either the blizzard outlasted the trancendence or I was somehow was able to freeze the entire enemy team including the zenyatta because of a bug.

amomentincrime.com countdown ends with another hint. Saw that coming. Sombra will come out during Blizz Con. It is very close to Dia De Los Muertos

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Post Post #589 (isolation #103) » Wed Oct 19, 2016 1:29 pm

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In post 585, pickemgenius wrote:feelsgoodman
what numbers are after your name? Can't find you via search without them
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Post Post #594 (isolation #104) » Thu Oct 20, 2016 1:27 am

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I am yet to beat it on medium. 76 is always picked before I get chance to pick him. McCree and 76 always get picked first. As I don't like Hanzo's need to charge shots while a horde is coming I have been stuck with Ana every time I played. Beating easy was easy. Finding people good enough to beat medium at a random time is hard. Feels like you def need a party with sense. Everyone playing for themselves and not as a team is ruining this horde mode for me too.
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Post Post #596 (isolation #105) » Thu Oct 20, 2016 4:07 am

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I know that's the strat, I have mentioned this in my other posts. When the random McCree on your team chooses to use high noon the moment he gets it and not save it for bosses, you lose. That has happened for me on each attempt at medium and said McCree has been a different random guy each time
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Post Post #598 (isolation #106) » Mon Oct 24, 2016 1:56 pm

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Jahudo (Ana), Vonflare (McCree), Some Random Guy (Hanzo), and myself (76) were able to beat medium. Was a lot of fun
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Post Post #600 (isolation #107) » Tue Oct 25, 2016 4:10 am

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Can the beat with every character achievement be on any dificulty? If so I think I can get that with hanzo and mcree on easy since I already beat it with 76 (med) and ana (ez)
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Post Post #608 (isolation #108) » Wed Oct 26, 2016 3:38 am

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I agree with Flameaxe

I bought Mercy witch as I had 3000 and wanted it more than Reaper pumpkin. I got mercy with dupe 2 level ups loots later. I'd have gotten them both had I picked the reaper one first. Spent the 300 ealy as I was not suure how much time I'd spend with the update given the tf2 halloween was oncoming. Though since tf2 halloween update is kind trash and buggy I have been playing overwatches update moret
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Post Post #611 (isolation #109) » Wed Oct 26, 2016 5:37 am

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PokerFace wrote:I agree with Flameaxe

I bought Mercy witch as I had 3000 and wanted it more than Reaper pumpkin. I got mercy with dupe 2 level ups loots later. I'd have gotten them both had I picked the reaper one first.
Spent the 300 early as I was not sure how much time I'd spend with the update given the tf2 halloween was oncoming. Though since tf2 halloween update is kinda trash and buggy (again) I have been playing overwatches update more
would not have done it if I had known my schedule at the time. There are rumors all holiday skins will be made unpurchasable after nov1 and not purchasable again until christmas special is going on. Talk of making summer games skins purchasable during christmas season is also going on
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Post Post #616 (isolation #110) » Fri Oct 28, 2016 2:09 am

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I made that post before seeing that source. seems rumors were right. Guess I'll have to binge play this weekend to get reaper and 76 skins since thats all I need. I just got promotion so that should lead to 20 quick levels of loots
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Post Post #619 (isolation #111) » Mon Oct 31, 2016 9:12 am

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Reminds me of 8-bit megaman themes^

I managed to get all I wanted out of recent loot boxes so I am also good, got all Halloween skins
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Post Post #621 (isolation #112) » Tue Nov 01, 2016 7:38 am

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I really like your predictions.
In post 620, Jahudo wrote:Ability 1 - "Spyware" places a small device that will reveal enemies through walls within range until destroyed / triggered.
Something like this would likely be bound to shift since Symetra's turrets and Hanzo's see through wall arrows are shift. Overwatch seems to like putting slightly simlar skills on the same buttons like how torb's turret is shift and Zaryas/Symetra's teamate shields are shift
In post 620, Jahudo wrote:Ultimate - "Firewall" lay down a rectangular area that stuns enemies who step on it
I like this idea as well though I think it would better be suited as AoE DoT damage. Like Mei and Dvas ult in that it will provide area denial. BUT without freezing enemies or flat out killing them (burst damage). Instead it will deal low amount of damage over time (or dot damage) to anything in a set area (AOE) Perhaps the size of the area will be determined by where the spyware is
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Post Post #622 (isolation #113) » Tue Nov 01, 2016 9:04 am

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In post 620, Jahudo wrote: Alt fire - same gun fires healing nanobots that are less strong than Ana but can be fired quicker.
I don't think she'll have this. Mercy already fills the role of heals over time and I don't see this ability usurping her of this role

I'd sooner expect a new ability to Mercy as her E to make her more playable than an ability that competes with something she has which would lead to mercy being played less

I think they should give mercy an e ability that lets her do a dash similar to the guardian angel ability, BUT it has a cool down and does not require you are dashing toward some teamate. Basically an escape move since she is most defenseless character in support class
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Post Post #623 (isolation #114) » Tue Nov 01, 2016 9:42 am

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Another way they could take Sombra is the make her a stealthy spy like hacker with these abilities:

Movement Ability - Weak Cloak - Can't shoot while using. Shooting would end the cloak. If you bump into someone or they shoot you, you are revealed or person who bumped orr shot you automatically says "A hidden enemy is here"

Hack Ability - You learn % value of an enemies ult or you get simple yes or no on whether your target currently has their ult ready

This character would NOT have any backstab or disguise abilities, bringing those to overwatch would be horrible, I think we all can agree on that
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Post Post #625 (isolation #115) » Tue Nov 01, 2016 1:54 pm

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I think I'd prefer clumsy's gun idea, e ability and ult. That e could be very powerful, maybe too powerful pending how it is fired and how it targets. Maybe have 1 character be unable to use abilities and ults, sombra has a grenade that denies abilities is not too similar to ana's heal especially if sombras grenade has no enhancing own teamates abilities

I don't think Jahudo's shift is too powerful by comparison and would rather have that over your idea since firing 1 dart would be very weak in comparison to what symetra and hanzo are capable of with their abilities

Having an ult that does dot damage and area denial can some where else since it does feel slightly out of place in hindsight now
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Post Post #628 (isolation #116) » Tue Nov 01, 2016 11:49 pm

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I know we just got a support but as sombra could be the second support without heals and Symetras turrets would be similar having Sombra's speculated shift ability, Sombra would fit in support for the overall good of both characters

Some people are speculating Sombra is a summoner, that she sommons omnics, I know the halloween event was cool but I don't see them being easily able to create a new character with summoning abilities in comparison to what we have discussed so far. A summoner would be more of a new endevor than ideas we have so far so I doubt Blizzard would tackle that now. Later down the line would be better especially after having more omnic characters in the game beside just bastion and zen
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Post Post #632 (isolation #117) » Wed Nov 02, 2016 5:01 am

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I'm not saying they would never do it, I'm saying they would not do it NOW. I think they'd sooner introduce a character with the stuff we have already considered than introduce a summoner.

It would not surprise me at all if they started developing a summoner character recently and are planning that character for sometime later.

I want Sombra to be a hacker and not a summoner. Stuff we discussed feels more hacker like.
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Post Post #633 (isolation #118) » Wed Nov 02, 2016 7:21 am

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Marquis wrote:they wouldn't want to just introduce another character with already-present abilities like wallhacks
Blizzard has had characters with similar abilities before and done it multiple times
Wall hack users: Hanzo, Widow
Sniper characters: Those two and Ana
Turret AKA builder characters: Symetra, Bastion and Torb

It is for these reasons I think they would
sooner
introduce it again than bring in a brand new type of chracter dynamic in a summoner

A summoner may one day be in the game and I honestly hope one will be but I don't want it to be or think it will be sombra
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Post Post #645 (isolation #119) » Fri Nov 04, 2016 3:45 pm

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LbhGICiRNwk

Cloak until you find a health pack. Hack it. Throw translocator near pack. Go hunting until you have to warp back. Repeat from hack it

If you are on defense, pick sombra, during setup, hack as many health packs on your side of the map as you can. Now you got each of those health packs on lock down for a minute. She's got two movement abilities. Yet has most defense potential of any offense character. I like it.

We all saw cloak coming. Teleport was surprise. Hack ability was more than we thought it would be. EMP Ult is line of sight multy target hack
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Post Post #648 (isolation #120) » Sun Nov 06, 2016 7:03 am

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vonflare wrote:you cant hack healthpacks during setup
Seems blizz is not allowing it. They feel that aspect of her would be OP in setup. Is torb still allowed to give out armor during setup in PTR? They are letting him generate his own metal there.
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Post Post #653 (isolation #121) » Mon Nov 07, 2016 10:41 am

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Edit: phone is sabotaging me, trying to make me scum slip.
that sounds rather clumsy... sorry

Can Sombra's EMP stop Soldier and Genji ults?

I heard the EMP can knock out player built in shields crippling Zarya and Zenyatta. Is this true? Does it do the same with armor?

If so then I think its OP. 50hp Zenyatta way to squishy. I am fine with it taking out their abilities but erasing that much hp seems too much
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Post Post #664 (isolation #122) » Mon Nov 07, 2016 11:54 pm

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Sombra is on ptr. A friend and I tested all her kit out so I may post a chart later on what sees through cloak, what does not.

And a chart on what ults can start firing and be imediatly silenced by sombras hack or emp. All ults can be stopped if you hack a person before they fire it, but what if Sombra hacks them after they start? I may post a chart later

Weirdest thing I learned, Symetras turrets can not be hacked or EMPed. Torbs turret can be hacked and emped.

Also I found way to get the trans-locator in to almost every Spawn. There is a way to bounce it and hook it into the majority of them. Blizzard is gonna need to fix this.
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Post Post #665 (isolation #123) » Tue Nov 08, 2016 12:40 am

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Looks like someone already made a video on what you can and can not emp or hack
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Post Post #666 (isolation #124) » Tue Nov 08, 2016 4:34 am

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My knee jerk reaction to sombras emp and hack were, she is OP

After testing and seeing how wonky it is I think she needs more testing but only certain aspects of it make it OP.

You should be able to shoot her translocator and the emp should not remove 200 from zarya and cripple most supports. I see those built in shields as passive abilities and if pharah can still fly, they should still have those
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Post Post #670 (isolation #125) » Tue Nov 08, 2016 7:13 am

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What's wrong with using forum default or not setting a color at all for that text? It will appear black in sepia and white in maf black that way
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Post Post #676 (isolation #126) » Tue Nov 08, 2016 10:53 pm

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In post 673, vonflare wrote:mafsilver master race
I support this message

I need to give 3v3 a try. Mercy and lucio likely best healers in it
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Post Post #677 (isolation #127) » Mon Nov 14, 2016 12:01 am

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I'd like to do some 1v1 or 3v3 tonight in ptr. If you get on, invite me

Off top of my head I think Ana, Soldier, Roadhog, Mercy, and Mei should be very good 3v3 characters.
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Post Post #678 (isolation #128) » Tue Nov 15, 2016 3:36 am

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Every time I tried to play ptr last night I got a game server connection error. Normal america region was fine so I played that. People I played with last night said they had same issues on ptr. I wonder what was going on
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Post Post #679 (isolation #129) » Wed Nov 16, 2016 5:44 am

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Sombra and everything in PTR went live yesterday to all regions. I guess that's why ptr was broke monday. Kinda surprised they would release it this close to end of season 2.

There is a free weekend this weekend. So my guess, release new stuff, have new people play before thanksgiving, get lots of new customers come black friday. I guess money is more important than the stability of their comp environment during season 2's final week
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Post Post #682 (isolation #130) » Mon Nov 21, 2016 3:34 am

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You currently can't take groups of 2 players into 1v1. Jahudo and I had to try queuing at same time and we failed to get paired together. You would think two guys from same state would get paired together rather easily based on connection but no dice

Blizz should also allow all chat in 1v1. Felt weird chatting with my enemy via typing and playing. Talking and playing is much easier. I barely won my first 1v1 against a random guy, 5 to 4. Won Hanzo, Tracer, Zen, Winston, and Hog to their Sombra, Symetra, Pharah, Reaper
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Post Post #684 (isolation #131) » Mon Nov 21, 2016 4:19 am

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This is true, but can you you force both players to randomly have to play the same hero in custom?

And can you do that in back to back matches quickly or do you have to go to menu screen repetitively in between?
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Post Post #685 (isolation #132) » Mon Nov 21, 2016 4:24 am

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Hey what does picking Lucio when you have 5 torbs on your team really achieve?

It makes you the tallest man in dwarf land...
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Post Post #687 (isolation #133) » Tue Nov 22, 2016 4:04 am

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PokerFace wrote:This is true, but can you you force both players to randomly have to play the same hero in custom?

And can you do that in back to back matches quickly or do you have to go to menu screen repetitively in between?
Jahudo wrote:You can respawn as a random hero in customs but you cant have both players respawn as the same random hero.
Exactly
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Post Post #689 (isolation #134) » Tue Nov 22, 2016 8:27 am

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=elN-QGyToxM
I like what they are doing but Bastion+Shield Generator+Payload sounds like cancer
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Post Post #690 (isolation #135) » Tue Nov 22, 2016 8:39 am

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In post 688, vonflare wrote:they said they plan on adding the 1v1 rules to custom games
Plan is not same as I can has. I hope they add that and symetra changes to PTR today
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Post Post #694 (isolation #136) » Wed Nov 23, 2016 3:51 am

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After actually playing with new Symetra I have some thoughts

Photon Barrier is a tank ability on a Support Character. I'd rather Symetra had a weaker version of the Shield Generator as her E. This weaker version would only give 25 shield over the same AOE. And this shield generator would have 50 hp 50 shield. The ultimate shield generator is better than the teleporter in almost every situation. Having a weaker generator with weaker range and cost fits Symetra better than giving her a tank ability. Also it allows symetra to move the generator, because if you put it in a bad spot right now, you can't move it. Save the Photon Barrier as something to give to a new tank character in the future.

I'd rather Symetras left click had stayed the same. Increasing range on a weapon that deals greater damage longer its attached is not a good idea

Change right click projectiles to be bigger. If it was larger you could use it to run behind much like the photon barrier, but as this would be a weapon and not a barrier it would serve as a better way to increase her range without making her deal too much damage. It would also make her more offensive and less defensive which is what you want to do for her

The buffs they added to Sym's turrets stay the same. I like them a lot. But I would allow Sombra to hack Sym's turrets because Sombra currently can't. Sombra can only hack Torb's turrets. Hacking one and not the other make no sense

Only one ultimate. Teleporter that gives off shields or gives shields to players that use it. The buffs they gave to the tele's hp being mostly shield, make it 100 hp and 100shield not 50 and 150. Make this teleporter give off shields of 25 to teamates in 50 meter range. Teleporter has 6 uses. Shield Gen currently has infinite uses until its destroyed. How are they equal abilities? They are not, Shield Gen is better in almost all situations. Sending in one player or a team of players at the Shield Gen is the equivalent of suicide at the moment. Don't make that a requirement. Allow the shield gen and teleporter to both get used up. Should a teamate die, make them auto appear at your teleporter exit when they respawn. This will stop people from using it 5 times and then saving it. It will force it to be used up instead of it being an everlasting ult. No ult should be everlasting.
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Post Post #696 (isolation #137) » Wed Nov 23, 2016 3:56 am

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Yes and I think the version of the tele I am suggesting would not be worthless there as it provide a similar purpose to the generator while still being greater than the generator. Because right now the Ult Generator is better than the tele in every way that is not defending point A. Tele is getting used 25% of the time to the shield generators 75% I'd estimate. Admitting the tele is useless and practically replacing it with a more often used ability, does not fix the teleporter. It overshadows it and replaces it. Passing a shadow over Symetra and replacing her with something/someone else is exactly what everyone was already doing, when they switched off her when A was capped.
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Post Post #700 (isolation #138) » Fri Nov 25, 2016 5:09 am

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The 1v1 and 3v3 rules are now in customs in ptr
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Post Post #703 (isolation #139) » Sun Nov 27, 2016 12:00 pm

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There are a lot of bugs in the ptr. There are no voice lines related to shield generator. Characters in game will say enemy has teleporter when shield gen is in use. And say teleporter found when you find shield gen. Sometimes hud for ult in the circle goes black for symetra so you got to hope you selected the right ult by luck. Because of these bugs and how I don't think the kit fits her I don't want her out next tuesday. I hope they give it more time. Especially since there is a bug in PTR where sombra can hack Rienhart's shield while standing in front of it. In normal mode you got to get behind him and thats the way it should be

I still want the changes I said in post #694. Even if that makes her more specialized and niche I still think that would be better than a kit that don't fit.

I want Doomfist and I want him to have photon barrier as E. Punch as left click. Punch projectile as right click. Ult that does heavy damage (See trailer where winston and tracer fight window and reaper). And shift be similar to lucio's cross fade but choices are "people close to you take less damage" OR "You deal more damage". Will you use it to be a savior or a scourge?
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Post Post #705 (isolation #140) » Sun Nov 27, 2016 9:25 pm

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Some people were speculating that. Did bliz come out and say that? If that becomes a feature than RIP Reinhardt in the meta. Hacking through barriers would be an op buff for sombra
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Post Post #707 (isolation #141) » Mon Nov 28, 2016 2:59 am

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Hacking has range. Unless fire strike is charged, Sombra can hack you while being in front of you and outside melee range. You can hack people before they get charge off

You can also hack Winston from outside tesla range. And hack Symetra from outside new left click range. But still can't hack symetras turrets while you can hack torbs

Hacking is a wonky ability and they should test it more too. They released the sombra patch before they should have, because they wanted money and did not care how it would change end of season 2 meta. If they release new sombra and symetra changes this tuesday I'll be upset. I thought Bliz was better about bugs getting to public than Valve.
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Post Post #712 (isolation #142) » Wed Dec 07, 2016 3:01 am

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In season 2 your rank was better more damage you dealt. Playing tank or support actually hurt your rank and most people played dps heros

In season 3 your placement rank will be worse if you main dps, about the same if you are a tank main, and slightly better if you play supports

This is what I have been told from friends, have not done placements myself yet
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Post Post #713 (isolation #143) » Wed Dec 07, 2016 3:18 am

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Changes I want to see

Make Mei's ult is los of snowball (her robot). This way it will not go through walls or get things that are above the robot

Junkrats tire is 150 hp. It currently can easily be 1 shot. You can see your hp and tire's hp at same time

Balance Road Hog's hook. Should not go through walls Will make triple tank less op

Zen's discord does 40% instead of 30%. Will make triple tank less op

Mercy gets a second dash ability that has a cool down and let's you move a short distance. Her right click does 40% instead of 30%

Sombra can't hack rien when in front of him. She hacks health pack for only 30 seconds, gone is burst fire instead of rapid which will ultimately give her more concentrated damage. Ult no longer requires los it can go through walls now but still has same radius as before

Symetra change to be this http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... 3#p8541503
Make her a defense character and give us a new support with actual heals

And make us new tank like:
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Post Post #714 (isolation #144) » Wed Dec 07, 2016 3:50 am

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I stole this idea from another website. Not an original idea

New support character named 'Rescue'. Its a dog that can go pickup health packs and bring them to teamates.

Shift stores health pack from pickup area

E drops a health pack

Passively you gain speed overtime, you are a dog

Right click points out an enemy to your team, you are a dog so pointing things out make sense. That enemy shows through walls now. lasts only for short time, can only be used on 1 enemy at a time

Left click is a shooting ability of some kind, gun attached to your back, much like dva's mech left click it does not require reloading. (how would you reload? you are a dog)

Ult point out all enemy's in los with radius similar to sombra's ult. All those enemies show through walls for a short time and take 40% damage.
(Mercy's right click is boosting and Anas ult is a boost. Zen's discord nerfs enemies so its about time we get an ult that nerfs enemies)
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Post Post #716 (isolation #145) » Thu Dec 08, 2016 4:36 am

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What?
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Post Post #717 (isolation #146) » Tue Dec 13, 2016 9:57 am

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https://www.vg247.com/2016/12/13/overwa ... s-trailer/

Winter Wonderland update is live. If patch notes are correct then symetra changes also live, but sombra hack you through shields is not live
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Post Post #724 (isolation #147) » Wed Dec 14, 2016 12:20 pm

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Been playing a lot more with new symetra. 75% of time shield generator is a better idea than a teleporter

In no limits she is overpowered. 6 symetras can beat 6 winstons since shield generators stack. (6*75)+200 means you have 6 symetras with 650 hp each

When you play as her to defend point A, she feels overpowered. Teleporter still useful here. Elsewhere its not.

When you play as her to defend last point, it depends on if you can put shield gen in spawn and or if their is another viable placement. Some spawns let you place the shield generator in them and some don't. I honestly think none should allow it since its indestructible there. If there is a good place to put the generator outside spawn, she feels balanced. Otherwise she is under powered, you would be better off picking someone else. The same can be said about her on koth though its usually easier to find a good hiding spot there since you can put it on your half of the map to cover the point

On offense she feels under powered. She can stop a Bastion behind Rienhart. She is good at that as she can block and attack them, but that's it. She is not good at blocking for entire team. In the end she is better at what she was already good at and Koth. Not good enough on offense.

As photon barrier is still better suited for a tank and you can't move shield generator or get a new one with the current one out, I still want http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... 3#p8541503. As long as she has short ranged turrets, she should really be a defense character.
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Post Post #726 (isolation #148) » Fri Dec 16, 2016 11:18 pm

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In the patch that added Sombra, Dva got two changes. One that I agree with and one I don't. Dva used to slow way down when she fired her gun. Highly iritatingly slow, it was better to run more often than it was to fight. You would take too much damage as a slow moving target while fighting off enemies. So Blizzard made Dva move quicker while firing her guns now. Which is good. She is less frustrating to play as. HOWEVER Blizzard went and buffed her health too. Dva got 100 more armor. Bliz thought she needed more tankyness to survive the same problem. They didn't need to give her both. Giving someone 100 armor is like giving them 200 normal life with how the game's mechanics work. If the problem is "she moves too slow while firing and that amounts to her dying more often" fix the cause only which is the movement speed, not the side effect of her dying more often. People can die a lot by various ways in this game. Giving some one more health alters an entire game, not just one small part of it. That extra sustain is allowing you to take heavy damage even when running away. Its allowing you to move further into a fight, get your ultimate sooner, and put your Dva bomb in places no enemy can deal with. Its allowing her to do more than she has ever done. She did not need two updates to solve one problem. By making these changes you solved one problem and created new problems.
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Post Post #727 (isolation #149) » Sun Dec 18, 2016 11:58 am

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I thought about this earlier today, I'd like to see Mercy get a wing flap that acts as a double jump.

First space tap { you jump
if you let it go {you fall back down)
if you hold it in { you slowly float downward}
if you tap jump again while in air {You wings flap and you get a double jump}
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After double jump {
if you let it go {you fall back down)
if you hold it in { you slowly float downward}
}

no triple jump

This mechanic would allow you a new level of escape, which mercy needs, and allow you to better aim who you guardian angel to with this extra view. Guardianing to someone from the air could lead you to nicking the ground sooner so you wouldn't zoom in front of your target like mercy sometimes does. In general she would get better mobility and escape
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Post Post #730 (isolation #150) » Mon Dec 19, 2016 3:28 am

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I want this wing flap/double jump to send you either same height or slightly higher than genji's double jump. It should not compete with Pharah's jet shift ability. That should still be highest air mobility move
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Post Post #737 (isolation #151) » Wed Dec 21, 2016 8:14 am

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The guy in panel 2 with Pharah has streaks of grey in his hair. Perhaps that's her father?
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Post Post #744 (isolation #152) » Mon Dec 26, 2016 7:07 am

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In season 1 and season 2, I only played placements. Didn't feel like messing around further in comp as I did not have good party of friends to play with. Played all games in solo queue. Went 4-6 both seasons

For season 3, I played 3 games in solo queue and the other 7 with some cool friends I made. Finished 6-4. 3-0 solo 3-4 with group I joined. Had more fun with people I met. Got better stats in all 8 categories (As I only played placements in all 3, its easy to tell I did better overall this season stats wise in Objective time, Eliminations, Damage Done, etc)

After placements I got an overall rank for season 3 that is less than my season 2 rank. I know they said all players would get a lesser rank, but in getting this rank I feel penalized for doing better. I had more fun in a group, but it seems if I want to get a higher rank, I need to play solo. I need to have less fun to get rewarded better.

For these reasons I feel the new system is pretty flawed.
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Post Post #746 (isolation #153) » Tue Dec 27, 2016 6:43 am

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Clumsy wrote:The best way I can explain it is that they thought that it would feel better to place low and climb after placing than place high and fall every time you play
I can get behind this ideal.
Clumsy wrote:Also, how does your group's rating compare to yours? If they're much lower, it can hurt your SR gain (and not necessarily because of their skill) .
But not behind this.
Theoretically everyone should be better in a group
as you would have better communication. Either the system is overestimating communication and underestimating individual skill, pairing us with people we should not play. Or its overestimating individual skill and underestimating communication because I do better solo.

In general comparing things to last season, it feels like I got penalized for doing something good. If my dog brings in my morning paper and I punch him in the face, he will never do it again. You got to reward good behavior or soon enough the dog will bite you. And you will deserve it.
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Post Post #753 (isolation #154) » Sun Jan 01, 2017 12:21 pm

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My adventures in ranked since my last post have given me interesting results. I got ranked in middle of those I grouped with during placements. I am still yet to lose a solo queue game. And if you take avg points I have earned from wins in solo and compare it to avg points I have gotten from group wins, the solo wins have a higher avg by quite a bit.

I don't feel my friends are losing me games nor do I feel they make me play bad, but the points I'm getting tell a different story, so the system feels bad
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Post Post #754 (isolation #155) » Sun Jan 01, 2017 12:23 pm

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In post 752, Accountant wrote:add me. I play on america server
You need to give your battle net tag for us to do that. I could assume your name is accountant but what are the # numbers after it? Also whats your tag psyche?
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Post Post #758 (isolation #156) » Wed Jan 04, 2017 3:14 am

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Accountant wrote:Hierophant#1942

I am desperate for people to play with so I have assuredly at least one person on my team who I know can shoot somewhat straight and will communicate
Added you last night as friend. My tag is nojkoor1584#1461. May need a skittle to add yours and mine and others to first post since IH has disappeared

I will communicate more often than shoot straight
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Post Post #761 (isolation #157) » Thu Jan 05, 2017 8:18 am

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You can stealth past torb turrets but not symetra turrets. It should be both yes or both no. One turret should not beat the other in this situation. I personally think both no is the way to go otherwise the cloak feels weak
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Post Post #764 (isolation #158) » Thu Jan 05, 2017 8:38 am

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The following post will updated multiple times with changes I want to see to this game

-Fix Roadhog's hook (Blizard is getting a PTR change ready)

-Lower Dva health. 100 armor is like 200hp so she is practically 1000hp (PTR now has 400hp 200armor which is practically 800hp)

-Mei's ult should freeze LOS "line of sight" for her robot. Behind walls or flying above the robot as Pharah should not freeze you

-Junkrat should be able to see his health and his tire health at same time. Keep his personal health on the left while his tire health is on the right. Tire is ammo after all

-Mercy boost do 40% not 30% or 50%. Give her a double jump. Maybe give her an AOE "area of effect" heal ability as her E. Second ult where you only res yourself

-Zen's discord do 40% not 30% or 50% get back in meta and weaken tank meta

-Sombra's health pack hack last 30 seconds not 1 minute. Her gun burst fire's instead of rapid fires. Should result in less spread and better damage. Or just buff her damage and keep the spread. Sombra's ult should not require LOS. Its and emp after all

-Symetra change her again pls. They made her too good at what she already did well as apposed to making her truly versatile. She was UP and Niche now she is OP and still Niche. Change her this way
Photon Barrier is a tank ability on a Support Character. I'd rather Symetra right click projectiles were bigger and she had no E. If those projectiles were bigger, you could use it to run behind much like the photon barrier, but as this would be a weapon and not a barrier it would serve as a better way to increase her range without making her deal too much damage. Symetras left click should have stayed the same. Give the real photon barrier to a new tank character

The buffs they added to Sym's turrets stay the same. I like them a lot. But I would allow Sombra to hack Sym's turrets because Sombra currently can't. Sombra can only hack Torb's turrets. Hacking and Emping torb's turrets but not sym's turrets, makes no sense

Symetra still has two ults with the health and shield changes they made for them but with one important change. Shield Gen currently has infinite uses until its destroyed. While Teleporter has 6 uses. How are they equal abilities? They are not, Shield Gen is better 75% of the time. Sending in one player or a team of players at the Shield Gen is the equivalent of suicide at the moment. Don't make that a requirement. Place a timer on it or invent some other mechanic that controls how long the shield generator is usable. No ult should be everlasting. After all Lucio's shield boost ult lasts a very short time

Currently when a point is capped the teleporter or shield generator returns to symetra at full strength regardless of how many times it was used. Have her get 50% charge not 100%. OR have the % she gets be dependent on how many times the tele was used or how long the generator was used of its max.
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Post Post #766 (isolation #159) » Thu Jan 05, 2017 8:58 am

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I thought junkrats shift did more than that. If it doesn't than i guess keep it 100 or make it 120

I stopped maining junkrat a long time ago. That complaint is from a friend

Also apparently hirer is a word? Spell check should have caught that. It catches teleporter when that actually is a word. Post updated
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Post Post #770 (isolation #160) » Fri Jan 06, 2017 12:43 pm

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Zoraster made me mod of thread. I updated the first port with some of the more recent gamer tags given. If I missed someone let me know and I will add them to the OP
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Post Post #772 (isolation #161) » Sat Jan 07, 2017 3:09 am

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Amusing thought just came to me. What if Mercy had two ults?

Ult 1. Resurrect the team as she does now

Ult 2. Resurrect only mercy

You keeping your team alive, but them not keeping you alive? Need someone on the point right now? Would this be fair way of getting her back into the meta? I have not seen her used in tournament streams for a long time so thinking of ways to help her get in there more than what I had in my other recent post
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Post Post #775 (isolation #162) » Sat Jan 07, 2017 4:06 pm

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Why do you list losses twice?

The changes I suggest for mercy, any ideas anyone suggests, should obv be in ptr before real games. I'd enjoy it if Blizzard tested more stuff on there even if most of it did not make real game
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Post Post #783 (isolation #163) » Tue Jan 10, 2017 9:19 am

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In post 769, Psyche wrote:once i realized sombra's ult stops turrets i stopped whining so much about her weaknesses

also, i like her spray! we don't want a game where everyone shoots the same do we?
Lucio is only character in game whose gun fires 3 shots every time you pull triger once. Everyone else has 1 bullet per triger pull unless you hold it down where everyone is rappid fire

I figure making sombra's gun burst fire will give her more consistent damage. Buffing her damage would be another way of not needing it to be burst fire
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Post Post #784 (isolation #164) » Tue Jan 10, 2017 9:36 am

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I agree with the DVa changes in the ptr. Less health more consistent damage they can go live imo.

I agree with the initial hook change to pov of hog and not pov of hook. This can go live

The stay connected changes seem off a little since you can go behind a lamp post and the hook will lose you

Edit: another PTR change coming. Now as long as part of you is still visible you are coming over. All of you has to break line of sight or GET OVER HERE!

The pull changes give roadhog a huge DPS increase. You can 1 shot zarya with a hook. killing Zarya on 1 shot feels wrong. Roadhog may soon need a dps nerf

When I first used Roadhog I only threw hooks when I thought they would work and I could not miss. When I realized how broken they were, I chucked them all over and got a lot of hooks I did not deserve. With these changes I should be fine. I just got to go back to the old way of how I played him.

Ultimately Roadhog mains should get higher eliminations with less hooks
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Post Post #786 (isolation #165) » Wed Jan 11, 2017 1:04 am

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Yes Genji throws 3 shurikens with each trigger pull. So I guess you can say he has burst fire or burst throw but not a burst gun or a gun with burst fire.
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Post Post #787 (isolation #166) » Thu Jan 12, 2017 8:13 am

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In post 774, Randomnamechange wrote:7 wins 2 losses 18 losses this season wahey
So you got 18 draws. Thats alot. What maps have you been getting and what is your rank?
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Post Post #789 (isolation #167) » Thu Jan 12, 2017 9:38 am

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Current Overwatch meta outside ptr is
Lucio, Ana, 76, Rienhart, Road Hog, Dva

I think the meta could shift to
Lucio, Ana, 76, Rienhart, Road Hog, Symetra (She can make other players tanks)
with the ptr changes

I really wish Symetras Shield Gen was not everlasting. Capping a point just gives the shield generator back to her at 100%.

Teleporter gets 6 uses and then its done. Capping a point gives teleporter back at 100% regardless of how many times its used

There needs to be a 1 minute timer on shield generator. If point is capped, you get percent back based on how long it was up. Same based on how many teleports the teleport got off. 6 teleports vs 60 seconds of shield gen. Seems fair to me.

I played a lot of no limits last night. Saw multiple symetras on teams 90% of time. Took forever to get my 9 wins. Got them all in a row once I found people willing to counter and change to pharah or winston. People so against changing in no limits and yet they still want loot boxes. I really wish they had kept "Welcome to Oasis" in the arcade another week. Or at least add something in the arcade that is not gimicky and random. Random 1v1 deathmatch, Random 6v6, Random Brawl. I am beginging to think 3v3 is best mode there
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Post Post #798 (isolation #168) » Fri Jan 13, 2017 4:27 pm

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I run Roadhog, Zen, Rien or 76 pending what my teamates are using in the 3v3

Mei is very good in 3v3 but I don't enjoy playing as her. I often see teammates pick her. Dva is very good but I see people pick Mei more as she has self heals. I'd rather have self heals over depending on others. I feel Dva is weaker than Hog and Ana so Dva is not needed as much

Roadhog and Ana are top tier in 3v3 due to self heals and sleep/hook kills. You can run practically anyone with the two of them as your teammates. Anti-heal very good if enemy has a Roadhog. 9/10 they do.
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Post Post #802 (isolation #169) » Thu Jan 26, 2017 3:08 am

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Capture the flag is a lot of fun. Though it does draw a lot. I think I went 9 win, 1 loss, and 5 draws in the 15 matches I had in this new brawl last night

Rien, Winston, and Dva are great flag carriers since they can shield themselves from damage and dash with the flag. Take two of them and a healer and you got a good attack party to handle sentries and get the flag

Symetra, Torb, and Bastion are great at defense. Since you got to split resources to attack and defend, characters that usually take focus fire to bring down are less focused on and thus stronger.

Zen, Symetra, Torb, Junkrat, 2 of (Dva, Rien, Winston) is what I found works best in CTF. Junkrat and Symetra defend with traps and turrets. Torb leaves his turret behind and goes to support who needs it. Zen supports where needed from varying ranges. Tanks get flags and neutralize enemy turrets. If winston or zen ult correctly, its a guaranteed capture
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Post Post #804 (isolation #170) » Thu Jan 26, 2017 3:51 am

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Symetra feels more like a defense character now than she did before the re-work. She locks down an area with turrets and strengthens hold on it with shields or tele pending map and teammate positioning. Torb is more of a support character since he can actively gather and give out armor where its needed. They have almost swapped roles now
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Post Post #818 (isolation #171) » Mon Jan 30, 2017 2:54 am

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I suspect Roadhog will get an increase in his hook cool down time

Since Blizzard has always wanted hero switching to be a thing and not charge for individual characters, I doubt there will be expansions. Loot boxes and events get them enough
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Post Post #820 (isolation #172) » Mon Jan 30, 2017 9:41 am

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I'd be cool with some story mode. I just would not be cool with pay for hero or the competitive environment getting segregated to those with expansion and those without

Adding new features is ok. Ruining old ones like everyone getting all heros and comp access is wrong
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Post Post #822 (isolation #173) » Tue Jan 31, 2017 12:55 am

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Your particular scenario might not happen due to team limits being 6 but the idea of a scenario mode does sound good to me.

It could be very useful for new players
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Post Post #834 (isolation #174) » Tue Feb 07, 2017 3:28 am

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I come from a background where aim is more important. Played alot of Unreal, Halo and COD back in the day and played it well. But over watch does not really stress aim as important, it stresses team work and positioning. If I did not have a background in tf2, I think I'd hate overwatch. Playing tf2 taught me those skills and probably made me less accurate since I have not needed to practice aim

If you want a "champion" that can aim and take care of sym and winston, I suggest you try mcree. I only use his flashbang when I can assure a kill or to defend myself. Flashbang then fan that hammer at their head and you can often kill sym and winston
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Post Post #840 (isolation #175) » Tue Feb 07, 2017 2:33 pm

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PokerFace wrote:I come from a background where aim is more important. Played alot of Unreal, Halo and COD back in the day and played it well. But over watch does not really stress aim as important, it stresses team work and positioning. If I did not have a background in tf2, I think I'd hate overwatch. Playing tf2 taught me those skills and probably made me less accurate since I have not needed to practice aim

If you want a "champion" that can aim and take care of sym and winston, I suggest you try mcree. I only use his flashbang when I can assure a kill or to defend myself. Flashbang then fan that hammer or shoot at their head and you can often kill sym and winston
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Post Post #841 (isolation #176) » Thu Feb 09, 2017 1:44 am

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Played alot of ptr last night as junkrat (So many people testing new bastion). I tested bastion too but often needed to blow up the enemy bastions or hook and cook them. I also played as the other tanks to see how they fair against new bastion. Bastion does better against tanks now and worse against squishies. New players will do better against him, tank meta will get hurt against him. Overall the changes feel fair though they may be more toward nerf than buff since there are more squishies than there are tanks. You want to track down and kill a squishy, use recon. Defend an area or beat a tank with a barrier, use sentry.

I also played a lot of ctf. I feel the best way to balance that game type in custom is to double the take/return time BUT make damage not interrupt it. This way it takes longer to grab the flag which means you have time to kill who is grabbing it, or time to knock them off it. The toucher now does not need a barrier to block for them as turrets do not immediately interrupt caps. Feels very fair. Means any character has chance at taking or defending a flag. No single character felt at an advantage against the other simply because of the flag game type. Also ties happened almost never as getting the flag was much more doable while scoring the flag was harder to do as you ultimately had less hp when you carried it as you just stood still for 5 seconds and probably got shot. Current CTF was hard to take and even harder to stop a capture, this felt balanced.

Other ways people tried to balance ctf included dropping the flag when you used abilities. If you have this setting on, the meta is Zarya, Hog, Lucio, sym, torb, Junk/bastion. Hog grabs flag. Heals and hook might make him drop it but as hook almost always kills, and heals keep you alive, hog is certain to get flag again. Zarya shields hog. Lucio speeds and heals the hunting party. Sym, torb, junk/bastion defend. The old ctf meta had a meta two it. This new meta has one. Both metas ultimately 2 tanks and a healer on offense with turret and trap defense. Game is not different enough to solve the true problem which is eliminating stalemates. Requiring your flag to be back to score has same result of no meta change, unfair character balance. And that one increases number of ties, and no one wants that
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Post Post #871 (isolation #177) » Tue Feb 28, 2017 2:47 pm

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I did some research on the 24th hero. Here is what I think is gonna happen based on what I found

Efi's dad is the original doom fist, the savior. Voiced by Terri Crews I would hope

Talon is going to steal the generation two doom fist and give it to their leader. The leader is not going to be the new character in the game

The new character is a 4 legged OR15 bot that has the brad ford arm. As it was built by efi who is a descendent of doom fist and this new character is going to beat up the leader when he has the generation 2 fist, this robot is going to be the successor and the new character without having either gen 1 or 2 doomfist. Unless Bradford arm is another name for generation 1 doom fist when efi modifies it. This new character will not be called doom fist. As the user can choose savior or scourge. good or evil, its best the character is called successor or has a name that is not doomfist

Abilities.

Can attract or repel projectiles with shift. Like lucio's cross fade you choose one or the other.

Ultimate is the giant ground pound you saw in previous doom fist cinematic but with a catch. Pending what shift is on, you either repel your targets with knock back on the pound, or you bring them to you

Given the to-do list from efi I am betting the new character has HP and Shield. That way it can passively get some of his health back. Attracting damage from projectiles to yourself instead of your team mates is gonna make you loose a lot of health. It either gets a lot of health, has shield and hp, or has some healing ability as the E.

Perhaps the E is used to charge the shift. After all if your shift was everlasting and always repelled projectiles, it would be difficult to kill you. It may need some limit unlike crossfade. Or perhaps the repelled projectiles have greater chance or hitting your teammates. Savior or scourge. Save your team by taking the damage or have them take it for you.

Right click and left click are melee attacks that propel you forward with different fists. Perhaps one is a jab where you stand still while the other propel's you forward
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Post Post #876 (isolation #178) » Wed Mar 01, 2017 11:08 am

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Axiom is the name of the robot line that the voice mografier comes from. Not the name of Efi's robot/new character

Also everyone keeps saying new character gonna be a spider mech. We already have a character affiliated with spiders and another affiliated with mechs. Spiders don't have 4 legs they have 8. New Character is gonna be more like a Centaur. 4 legged body, normal chasis torso

Overwatch was like Street Fighter with the different countries and characters. Now its like Mortal Kombat. Goro>Kintaro>Motaro. Doomfist1>Doom Fist 2>Doom Fist 3.
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Post Post #880 (isolation #179) » Thu Mar 02, 2017 12:28 pm

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I was only right about a few things. Minotaur and tank. Fought doomfist but is not successor

The abilities shes got strikes me as Her being a Defensive Anchor Tank while Reinhart is the Offensive Anchor tank. I think she will be good at holding chokes while Rein will be better at pushing through them.

Hog is DPS Tank
Winston is Dive Tank
Zarya is Support Tank
DVA is Off Tank

I like the category Orisa seems to fill since Rien needed to be contested so to speak for Anchor Tank, but I feel the way she fills the role is too similar. Gravity abilities have been seen before. Robots seen before. Barriers on areas feels like hybrid of Zarya and Winston. Primary is like TF2 Heavy. Ultimate boosts teammates in a certain area, there are already some teammate boosting abilities in the game from Mercy, Ana, and Zen.

I like the role she fills, but she does not feel unique or new enough.
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Post Post #881 (isolation #180) » Thu Mar 02, 2017 12:29 pm

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I already got PTR downloaded. If you want to help me test things I am in. What time you want to play, how many minutes will it take you to install?
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Post Post #885 (isolation #181) » Thu Mar 02, 2017 12:33 pm

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In post 882, Marquis wrote:i mean her lore is literally that she was built as a hybrid of existing successful hero qualities
I realize that but I wanted something more new and different. Call me greedy but I feel like I'm waiting to be impressed. My download just finished minutes ago so maybe I will get impressed when I play as her.
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Post Post #886 (isolation #182) » Thu Mar 02, 2017 12:34 pm

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so much ninjaing. I'll hail at you in a sec then clumsy

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Post Post #892 (isolation #183) » Thu Mar 02, 2017 11:48 pm

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O1KCuknks2M
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More info on fortify. Clumsy and I tested abilities though we did not test a lot of ults. And we couldn't test anything that involved 3 people. But I found some videos where other people tested what we could not test or did not test. Also Hack kinda works on fortify and kinda doesn't. See Video. They really need to make Sombra hacking and cloaking consistent. Torb turrets no see her while Symetra ones do. pls bliz

Also there's a weird bunny hop glitch. During Clumsy and I's testing we found that if Orisa fortifies and lucio boops her, the orisa player will feel and see nothing on screen, while the lucio player will see orisa make the smallest hop of all time. Same occurs if you walk over junkrats explosive. Looks like a software bug. Orisa and junkrat see you hop. Entire enemy team likely see your really small hop, though you really go no where so that's why you and your team see nothing. This bunny hop is in the videos

If you fortify you can run through Junkrat's trap without a care. We need to test getting stuck in it and then fortifying. Like can you break out of it if its already got you?

If you start being frozen by Mei and fortify, you will be free. But we didn't test complete frozen and fortify. Can you break out then?

The results I am expecting is trap and freeze will hold since you let them stop you fully before initiating the fortify. But it may be worth testing to see if I am wrong

Ana's grenade will work on a fortified Orisa, so I think Widow's mine will poison you. Though should test that too
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Post Post #893 (isolation #184) » Fri Mar 03, 2017 12:03 am

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For a 4 legged tank she has some pretty shit mobility. Think like a heavy weapons guy and you'll be fine

Use shield and fortify while you shoot. They don't need to occur before you start shooting

Use Fortify to meat shield and shield to actually shield. Her shield blocks enemy fire on both sides of it

Her voice feels child like for a young robot. If you kill an enemy Orisa the way Orisa looks and sounds is kinda sad when she dies. Zarya has good banter, she clearly hates Orisa
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Post Post #898 (isolation #185) » Mon Mar 06, 2017 10:49 am

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Hey what does everyone main? I'm thinking it may be good to have a game night and knowing what everyone plays would be good

I prefer tank as I play all of them, but I will also occasionally play Symetra, Zen, lucio, and soldier. Rienhart and Winston are what I do best

Sine Orisa counter Mei and I hate her with a passion I will be working Orisa into my game big time once she is live
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Post Post #899 (isolation #186) » Mon Mar 06, 2017 11:03 am

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Also I got a custom game idea. Called Dodgeball

Everyone orisa, koth, on (ilios well, Lijiang garden, Nepal Shrine) best 2 of 3

Environmental kills galore

Current characters that I believe do good against Orisa are Zenyatta (Discord to shutdown fortify and get around barrier), Mcree (Flashbang should be fast enough to get her before fortifying), Pharah (Unless Orisa looks up, she might not know when to fortify) Junkrat (Bounce grenades over shields) Sombra (Hack her in fortify)
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Post Post #934 (isolation #187) » Fri Mar 17, 2017 1:36 am

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Was there another change to hog's hook after 3.0? I still get one shot as Lucio unless the hog has shit aim

Winston on PTR is so much more useful. His attack goes through barriers and his barrier cool down start change helps a lot

If you play junkrat on PTR you might as well tape down M1 since you no longer damage yourself. No need to aim or think about repercussions of close bounces
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Post Post #940 (isolation #188) » Sat Mar 18, 2017 3:32 am

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Winston on PTR is so much more useful. His attack goes through barriers and his barrier cool down start change helps a lot
Yes, he has always had the ability to shoot through barriers. And because his barrier cool down start was "buffed" and Orisa is on PTR, there are more barriers in the game. And that makes him and his gun more useful than before.
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Post Post #941 (isolation #189) » Sun Mar 19, 2017 5:24 am

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There are characters that are inadvertently buffed or made more useful because what they counter is buffed. Winston counters barriers and since they were buffed and Orisa was added, Winston got more useful

The recent changes to Lucio and rise of dive comps will inadvertently make McCree get picked more.

The recent changes to Ana will inadvertently make Mercy get picked more.

Orisa being added is going to increase Bastions use too
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Post Post #943 (isolation #190) » Tue Mar 21, 2017 11:46 pm

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Will Orisa replace Reinhardt? Maybe in a few comps, but most will still require Reinhardt. No character should ever truly replace another or Blizzard has failed at game design

Rein is the most obvious anchor tank in the game because he has biggest, strongest, and most mobile shield in game. If played correctly, Dva and Winston can be used as Anchor Tanks in Dive Comp setups. I see Orisa becoming a Heavy Defense Anchor tank due to her synergy with Bastion, Torb, Symetra, and various other long range characters

I enjoy playing as tank and this is my character select flowchart
IF running Dive Comp, pick Winston, ELSE pick Rein
IF my team is struggling to deal DPS THEN pick RoadHog
IF I struggle due to enemy Pharah or Bastion THEN pick Dva
IF team spread out and having trouble protecting itself, pick Zarya
IF I struggle due to enemy Mei or McCree THEN pick Orisa (New Route in the chart now)
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Post Post #945 (isolation #191) » Thu Mar 23, 2017 12:04 am

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Watch the recent videos where they introduce Orisa on the Play Overwatch Channel.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DWqhXWRaMmU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=znEHH68unzA

Being an Anchor tank means that your teammates can get behind you and build around you because you can hold or occupy a large amount of space. You hold the line as Blizzard put it. Think of it as Anchor that holds a ship to an area, you hold the team to an area, like an Anchor in Tug of War. Any Barrier wielding tank can be an Anchor tank when played correctly.

Rein is the most obvious Anchor tank because he has the largest, strongest, a most mobile area. His barrier blocks and directly holds the choke on a lot of maps. It fills the main door on Hanamura for example. Because Orisa's barriers can be used similarly and she can also be a Meat shield with fortify, she is the next most obvious Anchor Tank

Winston and Dva can be Anchor tanks but is more about killing or taking over an area before you hold it. Dive into the area. Kill whats there. Hold it until your team gets there.

Zarya's barriers are not bound to an area, they are bound to players. Playing her is about protecting crucial teammates. Helping them stay alive, so the team is alive, and holding the objective together. Pending your definition of Anchor Tank and how you play Zarya, she may not be one

Road Hog is not a barrier wielding Tank. He's about staying alive, eliminating important Enemies so that you continue to hold an area. Enemy can't take that area from you if they are Dead. He is a tank in his size and HP. He takes an area by force. He "steals" the image of tank and debatably is not a tank if you play him for his DPS.
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Post Post #948 (isolation #192) » Fri Mar 24, 2017 4:00 pm

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You an I play Road Hog differently, Accountant. I try to play him as a tank while utilizing his DPS as a punish instead of a fight starter. I kill what tries to take what's mine, when I am Roadhog. You play him to fill the "Pick" position in 6s.

To anyone not in the know, 6s whether in tf2 or overwatch has 6 basic positions. Med, Pocket, Roamer, DPS, Pick, and Utility. Pick is the player who starts the team fight by getting that first kill making the fight 5v6 asap so your team is more likely to win the fight. Roadhog can fill that role as well as the roles of DPS and Roamer. I tend to use him in the Roamer spectrum since I don't play comp much and Roamer is more important when your team is unorganized and all about. Roamer roams helping out where they are needed. This player usually has high sustain or versatility since you often have to rely on yourself. I tend to see the DPS and Pick roles filled by flankers more often than they are filled by Roadhogs.

The Pocket's job is to protect the Med or Protect the team in overwatch. Rein has a monopoly on this role for the most part

Med is usually held by the teams primary healer and utility is held by a secondary healer or a character that provides other great utility. Ana and Lucio usually fill these roles with heals and boosts.

DPS is filled by player with high DPS. Lots of characters can fill this role
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Post Post #954 (isolation #193) » Sun Mar 26, 2017 3:55 am

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I hate hanamura. I usually play Winston or Dva and dive comp on attack or I use Rein on defense. I don't think I've ever used Roadhog on that map.

Clumsy, your way of playing Roadhog sounds a lot like mine. I think your way and mine is more similar than you realize. I think my one problem with Roadhog is that I tend to sponge too much damage and I think that's because I'm to used to being a shield since I play rein too much. For that reason I usually station myself next to a Rein or Zarya so I can work with them. Stationing myself with the healer sometimes works as long as that healer is good at healing. So I guess I use Hog as a joat and Roamer is the most joat like position.

Speaking of Joats, Orisa's kit has aspects of Zarya, Rein, Bastion, etc. She can fill the roles of those characters however she is not a master of those roles. Orisa is a good jack of all trades character when that Hanzo on your team refuses to swap to fill a needed role. You filling two roles at an avg capacity with Orisa can help make up for the scrubs on your team that can't do their role. Rein anchors down the damage blocked role better than anyone. People that fill other roles can gather behind/around him. Orisa can anchor many roles at once and gather them together in a sense that she can do each of them. Getting a pick on an Orisa may be more important than getting a pick on a Rein in a 'few' situations.

Zenyatta's discord counters fortify really well. Symetra's ball and anything else that goes through barriers also counter Orisa. While heavy crowd control characters like Mei are countered by Orisa. Orisa strikes me as a character intended to be an anchor tank but she will more likely find use as an off tank
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Post Post #965 (isolation #194) » Wed Apr 12, 2017 11:41 pm

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New Brawl is fun. Rein, Winston, Zen, Bastion/Torb. Feels best comp
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Post Post #967 (isolation #195) » Fri Apr 14, 2017 11:43 am

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Looking at leader boards...
rein/orisa/zen/bastion
is correct.

Von and I are working on a way of getting the 80% left achievement. If you are interested in helping us, let us know when you are online
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Post Post #970 (isolation #196) » Fri Apr 14, 2017 11:48 am

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Well von is not online any more. we need 4 people to pull it off. What times you free to play this weekend?
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Post Post #974 (isolation #197) » Sat Apr 15, 2017 7:47 am

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My placements games have not been fun. Every one has had a hanzo in it on my team. One game had a hanzo, widow, sym, and torb on my team on offense. And another game had 3 guys throwing. The mei put up an ice wall in spawn to block us while the other 2 in that party put up a tele on a cliff and laugh taunted. I'm 1-4 as a result. Why do people do trash like that in comp? I don't understand.

I did only my placements first season as that all I had time for with how late i got the game during that season.

Season 2 did only placements. Friends weren't allowed to play with me because they were ranked low.

Season 3 I played only with friends in placements. Did better than I ever did statistically, got lowest rank ever possibly because Blizzard said there system was broke and everyone would get lower. Seems its still broke if I do better in every tracked stat and get lower rank. I had little motivation to keep playing. Figured I should try solo queuing in season 4 and see what that does for me.

But the system is indeed bugged because last game I played which was my 4th loss this season, I was solo and paired with a group of 5. The opening game conversation was "alright whose turn is it to play support and get the low SR because Blizzard has bugs?" (There are youtube videos and forum posts on blizzard forums about this stuff) They started that conversation and all bickered over whose turn it was. I chose Zen and eventually had to switch to lucio since I suck at Ana and Zen can not solo heal especially when none of those 5 ever did pick a support. 4 of them were tank and the last one was a Hanzo.

Why do people play like this kinda shit not wanting to win in comp? I may have to not finish in solo queue since my motivation is 0 after all this shit
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Post Post #977 (isolation #198) » Mon Apr 17, 2017 11:41 am

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Seems that way. Part of me hopes that they all only did this because it was their placement matches. Some people believe placement matches mean nothing after all. Still thats not an excuse. Its a hope that all comp matches don't have shit like this in them
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Post Post #981 (isolation #199) » Tue Apr 18, 2017 2:01 pm

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Can the handle with care achievement be gotten with all heros?

I had it 83 when i beat it and did not get it on all heros. I thought it was possible. Glitch?
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