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Post Post #10 (isolation #0) » Sat Jan 07, 2017 7:16 am

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Hey guys.

What's shaking?
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Post Post #18 (isolation #1) » Sat Jan 07, 2017 8:56 am

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I don't math but sounds about right. Why do you seem so concerned?
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Post Post #22 (isolation #2) » Sat Jan 07, 2017 9:09 am

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In post 19, Tammy wrote:
In post 18, Lil Uzi Vert wrote:I don't math but sounds about right. Why do you seem so concerned?
You're not? I like to have some chance at winning.

It's a rare occurrence to get a scum lynch day one, and it's a rarer occurrence that a vig kill lands on scum. That puts us at losing night two unless the stars align perfectly.
Not really. I have good feeling about the player list.
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Post Post #36 (isolation #3) » Sat Jan 07, 2017 9:46 am

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In post 35, Gamma Emerald wrote:I think I'm gonna do RQS this game
Please don't.
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Post Post #41 (isolation #4) » Sat Jan 07, 2017 10:43 am

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I think our best bet is to just play and convince the vigilante to stay put if we mislynch D1.
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Post Post #87 (isolation #5) » Sat Jan 07, 2017 2:14 pm

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In post 54, Aj The Epic wrote:We're not doing RQS at this point.
Echoing this. Surprised he went through with it.
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Post Post #89 (isolation #6) » Sat Jan 07, 2017 2:27 pm

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In post 56, Medea the Alien wrote:Ignoring RQS.

What suggestions have you made that you think are worth discussing, Tammy? I read you tossing out a lot of frankly not so great ideas and eventually rejecting them, rightly so. Given that this was advertised as the open setup it is, I find it weird that anyone wouldn't have done some cursory thinking about the perils of the town:scum ratio, so why go weird about it now that the game has started?

So yes, read your posts, end result wasn't anything I felt like picking further at. I'd read more into it, but I know you do tend to write things out a bit so whatever. It doesn't tell me anything about your alignment.
In post 41, Lil Uzi Vert wrote:I think our best bet is to just play and convince the vigilante to stay put if we mislynch D1.
Okay, so on the playing side of that, you said you have high expectations of this player list. How's that working out from your perspective so far?

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Pedit: I would assume the vig wouldn't shoot night one if it was likely to put us in near-certain LyLo the next day. That...is kind of obvious? Waiting to see more interactions from you, as you going a bit down a rabbit hole isn't alignment indicative to me. And I asked Gamma why RQS, not why mass claim.
I don't have an answer for you right now but I probably will during the middle of Day 2.
In post 67, Empking wrote:I'm not sure if anyone is still taking it seriously, but I'm strongly against mass claim. Nothing on our side really suggests it's a good idea, while the fact that there are four scum ought not influence it; aside for putting us into lynch or lose earlier.

However, mightn't there be a virtue in our deciding who the gunsmith and cop should investigate - obviously with the caveat that one wouldn't investigate oneself. Or is that giving scum more info than we'd want to?
I don't think it's wise to tell our investigate roles who to target at this stage. The influence scum have could be fatal.
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Post Post #91 (isolation #7) » Sat Jan 07, 2017 2:28 pm

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In post 88, Tammy wrote:
In post 87, Lil Uzi Vert wrote:
In post 54, Aj The Epic wrote:We're not doing RQS at this point.
Echoing this. Surprised he went through with it.
Is that the most interesting thing?

Did you miss the question posed to you?
No, my phone just died.
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Post Post #102 (isolation #8) » Sat Jan 07, 2017 2:57 pm

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All bashing of the setup should be saved for post game. Its disrespectful to the mod to bash it now in my opinion.
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Post Post #123 (isolation #9) » Sat Jan 07, 2017 4:33 pm

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In post 122, Fate wrote:My vote was serious
Why are you scum reading AJ? Tone?
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Post Post #139 (isolation #10) » Sun Jan 08, 2017 12:53 am

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What makes my reaction bad and why is it AI?
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Post Post #153 (isolation #11) » Sun Jan 08, 2017 11:46 am

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The first two points are NAI and the latter is subjective. What felt safe about my first five posts? My lack of an RVS vote? My suggestion?
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Post Post #156 (isolation #12) » Sun Jan 08, 2017 1:07 pm

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In post 155, BBmolla wrote:
In post 153, Lil Uzi Vert wrote:The first two points are NAI and the latter is subjective. What felt safe about my first five posts? My lack of an RVS vote? My suggestion?
your robot posting
I get that a lot. Not sure why or what to tell you.
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Post Post #158 (isolation #13) » Sun Jan 08, 2017 1:33 pm

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Leaning town on AJ and Tammy.
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Post Post #171 (isolation #14) » Sun Jan 08, 2017 4:15 pm

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In post 164, Reflektor wrote:
In post 24, Aj The Epic wrote:
In post 12, Fate wrote:VOTE: Aj the epic

Scum used to be hard to find
*insert snarky response about you just being bad*

There's really no point in worrying about D2 already. If Vig shoots tonight and misses, then we'll have to mass claim tomorrow. That's about all there is to it.
This is a pretty lame approach, actually; I always thought you were the type that didn't mind a bit of setup speculation but maybe I'm just assuming that because Rubix Cube avatar and puzzles?
In post 32, Gamma Emerald wrote:Also hi nacho, prism, and tammy
Hi Gamma!
In post 55, Tammy wrote:What sucks is if there was a way to use this setup to our advantage in any way, that's one of the hydras I expected to use it or discuss it. I expected that if they were town they'd engage me on it - either to tell me to settle the fuck down there's nothing I can do or to have an idea if there's something to do. (The other is the nacho hydra, but I don't expect him to post in this game before tomorrow at the earliest so I'll wait with bated breath there.)
Penguin's post makes it look like they didn't talk about the setup period (I don't think that she'd dismiss no lynches and massclaiming if they'd discussed the setup as scum), which means that outright dismissing no lynches and massclaiming without thinking about things or asking Cabd about it all does seem kind of strange. I think her opening posts seem kind of stilted but I am also trying to be mindful of this being her first game back in a while and give her a little space to shake that rust off but that still stands out to me.
In post 72, Tammy wrote:I also thought about that. We could maybe put a pool of two to three for the two to investigate out of so that we can avoid the investigating oneself thing. The only drawback to directing in a sense is that scum are involved in the direction process and we might have investigatives who just have a good sense of who to investigate?
I understand arguments for directing a possible vig shot; don't really understand why we'd direct investigatives.
In post 75, Tammy wrote:The only thing I didn't like about LUV was when he asked me why I seemed so concerned about four scum. Both because the answer speaks for itself
This also stood out to me, especially since you were talking about the possibility that the game ends on Night 2 (I don't agree with the seem thing), but it's also the type of thing that I'm not sure scum would be quick to post if they were thinking about it; I think they'd be excited about having a big scum team and being able to end the game early and wouldn't be asking townies why they're afraid of losing.
In post 100, Gamma Emerald wrote:Yeah you're shit at reading me
I don't really agree with the RQS thing but you do seem a bit quieter than usual; is there any particular reason for it?
In post 115, Persivul wrote:In my experience, scum, who know the alignments, are less likely to have thoroughly read the setup than town. Further, while setup spec can be beneficial, it can also be used as a way to appear busy without really scum hunting.
Your original argument was that people "should" read the setup before signing up and because Tammy didn't do something she should do, she was lying and thus more likely scum (presumably); this argument looks more like "scum read setups less than town". I don't really think either of these things are alignment indicative; and, if it helps you at all coming from someone with experience with Tammy, her not reading setups thoroughly before she begins playing is something she does fairly frequently.
In post 130, BBmolla wrote:a whole page dedicated to investigating someone who is probably town anyway is wholly a waste of time, you can disagree with me if you want but you're just plain wrong
Agreed!
What do you think of what Persivul brought up wrt Tammy?
In post 131, BBmolla wrote:if that's nacho you're double wrong :|
"my reason for scumreading Tammy was wrong"
shame.
In post 141, Empking wrote:
In post 139, Lil Uzi Vert wrote:What makes my reaction bad and why is it AI?
It is AI because it seems like something scum would do for calculated town brownie-points. It's bad for the same reason.
What is the town motivation for posting it that LUV's going for?
In post 151, Persivul wrote:IIRC you talked about some strategies...Madea said those were bad ideas...you voted them. IMO that at least comes close to omgussy. Note that omgussy is an observation, not a charge, as you see omgussy town all the time.
It's a bit more nuanced than that; the reason why Tammy was pushing Penguin is because she wasn't engaging Tammy about those "bad ideas" in particular. I'd expect (and have a wild guess that Tammy probably expects the same thing) that Penguin as town would try to sort out Tammy early since they've played together plenty of times and are friends and all of that good stuff, and I'd also expect that Penguin as town wouldn't expect Tammy to propose horrible plans for breaking the setup, so it'd make sense to question her since it'd be killing two birds with one stone (sort out Tammy, correct bad play/catch something she thought about before). My bigger problem with her post is that she dismissing No Lynching as massclaiming as dumb strategies before it looks like she's thought much about it but Cabd's post implies differently, so maybe he just had some misplaced confidence in dismissing those moves immediately.
In post 153, Lil Uzi Vert wrote:The first two points are NAI and the latter is subjective. What felt safe about my first five posts? My lack of an RVS vote? My suggestion?
Maybe the lack of anything alignment indicative? Every comment that you've made so far is a throwaway comment about setup or a neutral observation or a question; if we are going to win this game, we need to lead early, and that means that townies are going to have to start sticking their necks out as far as possible as early as possible. Why are you townreading AJ? Do you have any scumreads/small niggles that have bothered you/things that look kind of weird?
In post 154, Indigo wrote:I do feel, having ISO'd LUV, that his posts might have not been the best posts but there has been nothing scummy about him.

UNVOTE:
Why did you decide to ISO LUV? Were you just trying to see what all of the hype was about? What do you think of people who have been pushing LUV now that you've decided there's nothing to see?

Vote: Lil Uzi Vert
I understand, the thing is I'm not going to force things. It's not how I like to play. I find that a lot of people on this site don't understand that a lot of stuff is just noise or NAI and tend to end up making something out of nothing as a result, rather than letting things progress naturally.

I am leaning town on AJ because a lot of his posts imply the same attitude I'm feeling towards all of the setup speculation and felt super genuine. I don't have any scum reads at this time.
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Post Post #181 (isolation #15) » Sun Jan 08, 2017 4:22 pm

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In post 175, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 145, Fate wrote:Every post AJ has made are my reasons
Ew. This is probably scum as well.
Maybe. I think he's telling the truth about not liking AJ's tone though.

I also did a bit of research on him and I think for now, it's a wait and see thing.
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Post Post #213 (isolation #16) » Sun Jan 08, 2017 11:54 pm

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VOTE: Shadonra
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Post Post #215 (isolation #17) » Mon Jan 09, 2017 2:02 am

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In post 214, Empking wrote:I would have joined the fun and silently voted LUV, if not for my already being on him. I don't like the post because he is being entirely silent on why he voted and one can not reasonably guess why. Presumably the vote, but why the vote. It just creates a worse atmosphere. However, as I said, I'm already on him.
Why does my naked vote create a worse atmosphere and BB's doesn't? He just naked vote in .
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Post Post #230 (isolation #18) » Mon Jan 09, 2017 10:30 am

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In post 229, Empking wrote:LUV: Fate was the subject of conversation when BB moved. His reasons are - presumably - a mix of what the posts above him say.
My reasons are for Shondora's entrance which was on the same page. I'm not seeing the difference.
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Post Post #232 (isolation #19) » Mon Jan 09, 2017 10:53 am

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In post 231, Empking wrote:
In post 230, Lil Uzi Vert wrote:
In post 229, Empking wrote:LUV: Fate was the subject of conversation when BB moved. His reasons are - presumably - a mix of what the posts above him say.
My reasons are for Shondora's entrance which was on the same page. I'm not seeing the difference.
Shonora's entrance was not the subject of discussion. Since that was the entirety of my point then the difference is very large indeed.
Neither was Fate. Page 9 didn't have a main subject of discussion.
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Post Post #237 (isolation #20) » Mon Jan 09, 2017 2:14 pm

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In post 233, Empking wrote:
In post 232, Lil Uzi Vert wrote:
In post 231, Empking wrote:
In post 230, Lil Uzi Vert wrote:
In post 229, Empking wrote:LUV: Fate was the subject of conversation when BB moved. His reasons are - presumably - a mix of what the posts above him say.
My reasons are for Shondora's entrance which was on the same page. I'm not seeing the difference.
Shonora's entrance was not the subject of discussion. Since that was the entirety of my point then the difference is very large indeed.
Neither was Fate. Page 9 didn't have a main subject of discussion.

Shonora's entrance was not a subject of discussion. Since that was the entirety of my point then the difference is very large indeed.
Right, but what's the issue with attempting to make it a discussion by voting for him?
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Post Post #246 (isolation #21) » Mon Jan 09, 2017 3:58 pm

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Not a fan of hypoclaiming, especially with the presence of a roleblocker.
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Post Post #250 (isolation #22) » Mon Jan 09, 2017 5:06 pm

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@Mod: I'll be v/LA until the 13th.
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Post Post #288 (isolation #23) » Tue Jan 10, 2017 8:09 pm

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In post 251, Medea the Alien wrote:So things that catch my eye:
In post 89, Lil Uzi Vert wrote:I don't have an answer for you right now but I probably will during the middle of Day 2.
You can't have an opinion until later? No idea if people are behaving as expected or not, and no anticipation of noticing anything until the next day phase despite extolling the list of players?
In post 111, Tammy wrote:Where was my scum motivation for reacting to the setup the way I did though?
This is circular. You clearly don't think scum would ever go into a tizzy about a swingy set-up where town would, so doing so gives scum-you town cred from your POV, which makes it irrelevant to the rest of us. Or it's also your genuine town reaction...and gdi I don't even care any more. This is why reading you early is kind of pointless to me.
In post 129, Reflektor wrote:My reason for scumreading Tammy was wrong.

VOTE: BBMolla

Don't like BBmolla's defense of Tammy in #128. Next vote would probably be Medea or someone with only one post. I haven't slept in nearly 48 hours so I'll tackle page 5 in the morning.
You don't like BBMolla's defense of the person you're no longer scumreading? Can you elaborate? (Prism-head, I assume?)
In post 137, Tammy wrote:Right and I would expect no less from you guys, but that doesn't explain Penguin's entrance and reaction or lack of direct interaction with me. If you guys had been discussing it, I'd expect some comment along that way, not why are you guys suggesting this nonsense. Sot then Penguin's entrance just looks like posturing and if you'd discussed it well then it should have been different.
JFC, apparently we have to act and think and discuss exactly what you imagine we would be doing when you imagine it happening for it to be legit. True report: after signing up we didn't talk about this game. It's my first week back at work and my stamina's shot to hell; last week I'd get to about 10 AM and be looking for a place to take a nap. My energy went to getting through the day and making sure we were ready for the next one, not advance study for this game. And as far as direct interaction with you goes, if you'd said anything I found interesting maybe I would have.* Or maybe not. Sorting you is hard enough for me without doing it in front of you to have any deviations from "Tammy is the towniest town who ever towned" be a reason for you to get all upset. So no, I didn't have any interest in calming you down or telling you personally to chill. I was more interested in trying to find some avenue of scum hunting, especially since I don't know some of this player list at all.

*to clarify because I know this sounds mean, my takeaway from your posts up to that point were that the game setup was nuts and here are some nutsy things we could do in response, but maybe not. I had nothing further to say there beyond that those suggestions were not likely and quite premature when there's a day phase's worth of scum hunting to do without getting offtrack with pessimism.

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Elsewhere, to anyone, does Lil Uzi Vert generally post super short, almost solely reactive posts? Because so far I'm seeing someone who doesn't want to make any waves, or even ripples.

**
In post 154, Indigo wrote:I do feel, having ISO'd LUV, that his posts might have not been the best posts but there has been nothing scummy about him.

UNVOTE:
This sure as hell stood out. Your initial vote was post #13 of the game and was presumably RVS, as you didn't say anything beyond a greeting therein. This laborious unvote doesn't give any read beyond null and doesn't pursue any other ideas. Since the ISO that follows doesn't do anything else I'm side-eying Indigo pretty hard right now.
In post 162, Reflektor wrote:
In post 48, Medea the Alien wrote:And I know I haven't played in a while, but WTF is with no lynching and mass claiming being bandied about as good ideas this early? Town points for AJ for not buying in.
Have you and Cabd not discussed massclaiming/no lynching as a possibility so far? This is an unconventional setup, and sometimes unconventional setups require a little unconventional playing.
Why does AJ get townpoints for sticking to Mafiascum approved theory?
We talked about it a bit that night and didn't see any compelling reason to go with it in all likelihood or make it an option this early in the day. I could see if we got to the end of the day and there somehow weren't any wagons people felt good about to get a majority that it might be less disastrous than usual to no-lynch, but that doesn't give any flip-based perspectives for any investigatives while putting on a display for scum of who's likely to be dangerous. The pages of discussion on it still make me want to bash heads together, but yes, I did think about how such choices might play out. I had plenty of time to do so while reading the two pages of talk about it. Said pages lead to...
In post 48, Medea the Alien wrote:Gamma Emerald, why would you want to throw in RQS at this point? Are you dissatisfied with the discourse in progress? What was your thought process that mass claiming would be useful?
In post 56, Medea the Alien wrote:Okay, so on the playing side of that, you said you have high expectations of this player list. How's that working out from your perspective so far?
Both of these questions seem a little weak to me, but as I'm writing this I realize how long it's been since you've actually played a game so am probably being overly harsh on your entrance. Hi Penguin! It's good to see you again!

: cries forever at overly harsh Nacho : They were weak questions. There wasn't much substance to dig into yet as most of the posting was RVS and set-up discussion, so I was trying to get discussion from people who had done anything else.
In post 164, Reflektor wrote:Penguin's post makes it look like they didn't talk about the setup period (I don't think that she'd dismiss no lynches and massclaiming if they'd discussed the setup as scum), which means that outright dismissing no lynches and massclaiming without thinking about things or asking Cabd about it all does seem kind of strange. I think her opening posts seem kind of stilted but I am also trying to be mindful of this being her first game back in a while and give her a little space to shake that rust off but that still stands out to me.
If you want the exact sequence, Cabd saw the sign-up thread, said he wanted to play and asked me to hydra. I looked at the setup and said yes, since we knew what we'd be getting into with the open part. Went 'wow, that's special' but figured WTH, my sense of self is way less tied up in mafia games than it used to be, so if it's a clusterfuck so be it. He told me when the thread was open, I posted a couple times, we talked more about the setup while getting ready to go out and agreed with my initial reaction that no-lynching and massclaiming weren't good ideas, considered if there were any obvious things to suggest in-thread be done with the set-up, decided no (that changed for me tonight with floating hypo claiming). Went out and didn't think about it again until tonight.

And I won't break if you call out anything you see as dumb or scummy on my part.

At the partway point of this slow readthrough I'll admit that I can see an option for massclaiming today. I think it stands a really good chance of going completely wrong, but in taking the time to write out how the worst case scenario would go down all the way to the first LyLo (of three potential if we keep picking right!) and who would likely be left alive, it's not something I think would be fun, but assuming a couple decent reads to work from in the resultant claimed VT pool, it might work out. I think looking at that and without running the scenario a Day Two massclaim discussion would be infinitely better with some results to report at the end of it, as some lucky investigating could make it fait accompli.

Posting this and then continuing my read, maybe look at a D2 worst case mass claim scenario too.

--PA
In this case, yes, but I will definitely have one for you Day 2.
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Post Post #289 (isolation #24) » Tue Jan 10, 2017 8:13 pm

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In post 259, shadonra wrote:I think Medea is town. I find scum unlikely to talk about this or lie about this conversation:
I posted a couple times, we talked more about the setup while getting ready to go out and agreed with my initial reaction that no-lynching and massclaiming weren't good ideas, considered if there were any obvious things to suggest in-thread be done with the set-up, decided no (that changed for me tonight with floating hypo claiming). Went out and didn't think about it again until tonight.
I don't like the look of Indigo - justifies their actions a bit too thoroughly, but I don't think I'm interested in it right now. They do the weird thing too consistently and it might be meta for them.

Why are people townreading AJ? I saw an appeal to meta somewhere, but I still don't like his posts very much at all.
What don't you like about AJ's posts?
In post 266, Fate wrote:
In post 259, shadonra wrote:I think Medea is town. I find scum unlikely to talk about this or lie about this conversation:
I posted a couple times, we talked more about the setup while getting ready to go out and agreed with my initial reaction that no-lynching and massclaiming weren't good ideas, considered if there were any obvious things to suggest in-thread be done with the set-up, decided no (that changed for me tonight with floating hypo claiming). Went out and didn't think about it again until tonight.
I don't like the look of Indigo - justifies their actions a bit too thoroughly, but I don't think I'm interested in it right now. They do the weird thing too consistently and it might be meta for them.


Why are people townreading AJ? I saw an appeal to meta somewhere, but I still don't like his posts very much at all.
This is why I feel Medea is scum. Thats both an easy conversation to fake having had and also extremely safe.

Medea's posts have been generally skirting around actual scumhunting and making sure set-up things are taken care of. Also focusing on people alignment through the lenses of MC talk or all that is much safer than actual confrontation.

Now that I've written that I think Persivul's got a bit more balls for actually being confrontationally with me and direct, so he gets less scum points.

AJ's tone and general timing of posts has been town from what I've read.


Randommidget just showing up and placing a vote on the biggest wagon is about as coasting scum as you can get. Especially when I'm such a juicy mislynch (if I'm mislynched town's chances of winning go WAY down).

BBMolla hasn't done anything that has stood out to me as scum but I still would guess town and probably leave him for another day down the road.

I like Reflektor's posts from what I can read of them. They are a bit too wall heavy for me to get a clear read but the content is at least taking stances IIRC
Your read on Medea is a feeling I'm starting to get as well, but I've been taking into account the experience of both heads and one of them apparently having not played in a while. Did you factor both of these things into your read? If not, why?
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Post Post #290 (isolation #25) » Tue Jan 10, 2017 8:14 pm

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In post 276, Empking wrote:
In post 237, Lil Uzi Vert wrote:
In post 233, Empking wrote:
In post 232, Lil Uzi Vert wrote:
In post 231, Empking wrote:
In post 230, Lil Uzi Vert wrote:
In post 229, Empking wrote:LUV: Fate was the subject of conversation when BB moved. His reasons are - presumably - a mix of what the posts above him say.
My reasons are for Shondora's entrance which was on the same page. I'm not seeing the difference.
Shonora's entrance was not the subject of discussion. Since that was the entirety of my point then the difference is very large indeed.
Neither was Fate. Page 9 didn't have a main subject of discussion.

Shonora's entrance was not a subject of discussion. Since that was the entirety of my point then the difference is very large indeed.
Right, but what's the issue with attempting to make it a discussion by voting for him?
If you want to make it a subject of discusson you have to start a discussion. It obviously did not become a subject of discussion.

The Fate wagon just feels cold and weird. Not sure if scummy but it leaves m icy cold.

Don't like Hypo-clsiming. Scum have enough info that they cn yse it to narrow down the investigative roles. Frankly if the Cop gets a guilty then he should just come out with it and he can breadcrumb innocents for when he flips.

Why do you feel my naked vote isn't starting discussion? You haven't asked why I'm voting for Shadonra and you don't seem to care why. If you wanted a discussion about it so badly, you would've asked me why I'm scum reading him.
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Post Post #291 (isolation #26) » Tue Jan 10, 2017 8:15 pm

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@Mod: Could you fix the quote tags in ?
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Post Post #320 (isolation #27) » Wed Jan 11, 2017 5:30 pm

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In post 292, shadonra wrote:
In post 289, Lil Uzi Vert wrote: What don't you like about AJ's posts?
AJ's iso looks like this.

"setup spec setup spec setup spec"

"i hate setup spec! i never do setup spec"

"fate doesn't post"

It looks like he wanted to post but wasn't interested in saying anything.
Not really getting that vibe at all.
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Post Post #321 (isolation #28) » Wed Jan 11, 2017 5:30 pm

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In post 308, Empking wrote:
In post 290, Lil Uzi Vert wrote:
In post 276, Empking wrote:
In post 237, Lil Uzi Vert wrote:
In post 233, Empking wrote:
In post 232, Lil Uzi Vert wrote:
In post 231, Empking wrote:
In post 230, Lil Uzi Vert wrote:
In post 229, Empking wrote:LUV: Fate was the subject of conversation when BB moved. His reasons are - presumably - a mix of what the posts above him say.
My reasons are for Shondora's entrance which was on the same page. I'm not seeing the difference.
Shonora's entrance was not the subject of discussion. Since that was the entirety of my point then the difference is very large indeed.
Neither was Fate. Page 9 didn't have a main subject of discussion.

Shonora's entrance was not a subject of discussion. Since that was the entirety of my point then the difference is very large indeed.
Right, but what's the issue with attempting to make it a discussion by voting for him?
If you want to make it a subject of discusson you have to start a discussion. It obviously did not become a subject of discussion.

The Fate wagon just feels cold and weird. Not sure if scummy but it leaves m icy cold.

Don't like Hypo-clsiming. Scum have enough info that they cn yse it to narrow down the investigative roles. Frankly if the Cop gets a guilty then he should just come out with it and he can breadcrumb innocents for when he flips.

Why do you feel my naked vote isn't starting discussion? You haven't asked why I'm voting for Shadonra and you don't seem to care why. If you wanted a discussion about it so badly, you would've asked me why I'm scum reading him.
It isn't starting discussion as it didn't start duiscussion. I don't particularly want to talk about Shan and I think you are misrepresenting me.
Discussion is a two-way street. Your original complaint was that my naked vote was creating a bad atmosphere because I didn't give a reason. If you can't tell why I voting for someone and/or want me to explain why I'm voting for someone, part of your job description as town is to find out why and engage me. You haven't done that and you just admitted to not wanting to for whatever reason.

I feel like you're stretching for reasons for scum read me at this point.
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Post Post #323 (isolation #29) » Wed Jan 11, 2017 5:43 pm

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Note that in , the word to is suppose to be after the word reasons.
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Post Post #400 (isolation #30) » Fri Jan 13, 2017 4:47 pm

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In post 396, Realeo wrote:
In post 213, Lil Uzi Vert wrote:VOTE: Shadonra
Can you elaborate this post?
I didn't like his entrance.
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Post Post #424 (isolation #31) » Sat Jan 14, 2017 10:54 pm

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VOTE: King
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Post Post #425 (isolation #32) » Sat Jan 14, 2017 10:55 pm

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In post 419, Aj The Epic wrote:VOTE: Randommidget

We can consolidate here.
Why?
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Post Post #572 (isolation #33) » Wed Jan 18, 2017 3:14 am

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In post 496, Reflektor wrote:
In post 399, -Grey- wrote:
In post 398, Realeo wrote:Am I the only one who is townleaning shadonra?
Probably.
^^^

if you want that to change, explaining where your thought process is the most important first step.
In post 404, Realeo wrote:To be more precise, I find it confusing that you scumread LuV, but didn't scumread Tammy. Tammy is not fitting in? If I were old timer like Reflektor, I would be alerted, which what Reflektor did.
I'm confused why you're seeing LUV's and Tammy's posting as comparable?
Also, you note that Prism attacked BBMolla for similar reasons, but I think that he was missing a bit of meta context; I've also played pretty extensively with Tammy and ended up townreading her instantly, although I'm not really sure that I needed the meta in order to do so.
Why do you need to have your blood pumping to feel enthustatic about a lynch?
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Post Post #573 (isolation #34) » Wed Jan 18, 2017 3:23 am

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In post 525, Reflektor wrote:
Spoiler: Our Vert
In post 10, Lil Uzi Vert wrote:Hey guys.

What's shaking?
In post 18, Lil Uzi Vert wrote:I don't math but sounds about right. Why do you seem so concerned?
In post 22, Lil Uzi Vert wrote:
In post 19, Tammy wrote:
In post 18, Lil Uzi Vert wrote:I don't math but sounds about right. Why do you seem so concerned?
You're not? I like to have some chance at winning.

It's a rare occurrence to get a scum lynch day one, and it's a rarer occurrence that a vig kill lands on scum. That puts us at losing night two unless the stars align perfectly.
Not really. I have good feeling about the player list.
In post 36, Lil Uzi Vert wrote:
In post 35, Gamma Emerald wrote:I think I'm gonna do RQS this game
Please don't.
In post 41, Lil Uzi Vert wrote:I think our best bet is to just play and convince the vigilante to stay put if we mislynch D1.


Spoiler: Their Vert
In post 109, Lil Uzi Vert wrote:Checking in.

I'm not familiar with any of the flavor but I feel like it could be indicative of alignment in some way. I'll try to read up on it sometime tomorrow.

Taking all of the claims so far with a grain of salt. I think Lady's post restriction thing might be legit though. Seems like it would be very hard to fake but at the same time it's a convenient excuse for lack of content.

Am I missing something with Camn and Jae? Saw a few votes on them and didn't really see anything too scummy.
In post 117, Lil Uzi Vert wrote:
In post 116, JaeReed wrote:
In post 109, Lil Uzi Vert wrote:Checking in.

I'm not familiar with any of the flavor but I feel like it could be indicative of alignment in some way. I'll try to read up on it sometime tomorrow.

Taking all of the claims so far with a grain of salt. I think Lady's post restriction thing might be legit though. Seems like it would be very hard to fake but
at the same time it's a convenient excuse for lack of content.


Am I missing something with Camn and Jae? Saw a few votes on them and didn't really see anything too scummy.
The bolded, for clarification.

Not once has LLD used it as an excuse for lack of content.

p-edit: hmmmm Spyrex can go up a tier
I'm just saying that it could be used as an excuse since she's having a difficult time so far with posts.
In post 119, Lil Uzi Vert wrote:
In post 111, Dunnstral wrote:
In post 109, Lil Uzi Vert wrote:Seems like it would be very hard to fake
Posting with good grammar is hard to fake?
To me yeah. Depending on what and how much you want to say, especially if you have no one to proofread your post.
In post 133, Lil Uzi Vert wrote:Okay on a reread I'm seeing what you guys are seeing now. I thought you guys were voting Jae for their vigilante comment which I found fairly reasonable considering what kind of game this is.

I don't understand how Jae originally found a conformation post more worthy of receiving a read compared to someone claiming miller. Even if you have a real reason for not factoring the claim, you could have still commented on her laughing at Lady's claim. I mean that would have most likely been received null but it's better than leaving someone off the list like they never posted.
In post 145, Lil Uzi Vert wrote:Why the TR on Magna?


To general meta concerns, I feel like Lil Uzi Vert in the other game didn't feel like he was trying to avoid saying anything marginally uselful/risky; there, he pushed on someone because he thought they were maybe faking a PR claim, he clarified what was going on between players and he gave opinions on it. Here, I'm not really sure how to qualify his play other than coasting.

Vote: Lil Uzi Vert


I'll probably continue a larger case tomorrow when I have a little more time to work with but this is where I want to lynch today.
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I don't think you did your homework properly. This not only lacks context but a comperhensive understanding of my personality. This feels like you scrambled to find a reason to stay away from the Fate-Midget debate. Anyone can pick out a few posts from a previous game and compare them to posts from a current game same said player is in and say this isn't their town game.

VOTE: Reflektor
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Post Post #579 (isolation #35) » Wed Jan 18, 2017 7:32 am

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In post 577, shadonra wrote:
In post 570, Reflektor wrote:
In post 568, shadonra wrote:bbmolla bc i actually hated the sideline comment on the randommidget wagon
The sideline comment you're referring to is talking about disliking Fate's push on it or...?
Yah.

LUV has not really posted his actual opinions on anything. He's just been asking people questions. I don't like that, but he claims it's NAI for him and I haven't looked at any of his other games yet, so *shrug*. I'd like to see him post more stuff tho
I think it's pretty clear who I'm scum reading if you read my ISO. I have no interest in Fate and Midget right now, I think their fight is TVT.
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Post Post #580 (isolation #36) » Wed Jan 18, 2017 7:32 am

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In post 579, Lil Uzi Vert wrote:
In post 577, shadonra wrote:
In post 570, Reflektor wrote:
In post 568, shadonra wrote:bbmolla bc i actually hated the sideline comment on the randommidget wagon
The sideline comment you're referring to is talking about disliking Fate's push on it or...?
Yah.

LUV has not really posted his actual opinions on anything. He's just been asking people questions. I don't like that, but he claims it's NAI for him and I haven't looked at any of his other games yet, so *shrug*. I'd like to see him post more stuff tho
I think it's pretty clear who I'm scum reading if you read my ISO. I have no interest in Fate and Midget right now, I think their fight is TvT.
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Post Post #868 (isolation #37) » Tue Jan 24, 2017 8:06 pm

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I'm a bit befuddled. Why was AJ lynched? I thought he was town mostly from my experiences with him.

VOTE: King

He should have been the lynch yesterday.
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Post Post #903 (isolation #38) » Wed Jan 25, 2017 12:55 pm

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@Gamma and Shad: I forgot Reflektor is a hydra of Nacho and Prism. They're back to null for me since I liked what I've been seeing from Prism but not from Nacho. Why does what I think of them matter now though? Are you two scum reading them?
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Post Post #1499 (isolation #39) » Wed Feb 15, 2017 8:24 am

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I had some really solid reads this game. Shame.
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