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Post Post #25 (isolation #0) » Tue Jan 10, 2017 8:31 pm

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Fast RVS = good RVS. Implosion, Kain, and Comm are all town.
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Post Post #28 (isolation #1) » Tue Jan 10, 2017 8:32 pm

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Post Post #74 (isolation #2) » Wed Jan 11, 2017 2:21 pm

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K so long day at work quick thoughts before I go to bed.

I like Stormcloud. I like Tweet (I think).

I like implosion less, some things he said are making my spider senses tingle.

Kain read deteriorated somewhat. Still like Comm.

Will be more specific tomorrow, if I can be arsed.

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Post Post #134 (isolation #3) » Thu Jan 12, 2017 5:39 am

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Post Post #147 (isolation #4) » Thu Jan 12, 2017 6:46 am

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In post 25, Syryana wrote:Fast RVS = good RVS. Implosion, Kain, and Comm are all town.
Okay. Let's start with Implosion. I thought implosion's wordless unvote and vote of CommKnight was town as fuck. Scum generally (in my experience) don't have those immediate knee jerk reactions. Implosion's post was also the point where I felt RVS ended (I hate RVS, personally).

CommKnight. Initially I was gonna vote his ass for the claims deal but after reading his subsequent posts (e.g. and ) I felt he did a really good job of explaining why he wanted what he wanted. I don't agree with him, but from the perspective of someone that doesn't know our site meta it makes perfect sense. Also the tone of his posts is towntowntown. He's in an argument with Kain, but he's not pressured and it is clear from his posting that he absolutely feels he's in the right. If he's scum and can fake that, hats off, I'll cheerily lose this game to him. This dude is god-tier town in my list. Caveat: If it comes out that he's an alt from this site (or has history with this site in general), vig/lynch/kill with extreme prejudice.

Kain. I thought the exchange between CK and Kain was reasonably townish (at the time, I'll explain in my second director's cut). Seemed like fairly genuine reactions between the two. Once the initial fight between the two died down I really liked how Kain tried to understand CK.

Time for part 2! Gonna start with mah post and break it down by parts.
In post 74, Syryana wrote:I like Stormcloud. I like Tweet (I think).
I read through page 3 and liked the conversation between Storm and Tweet. I wasn't so fond of the CK jump in but the subsequent conversation between Transcend and Storm felt really natural.

Rereading Tweet today, I fuckin love her and . She pretty much nailed my feelings re: CK.
In post 74, Syryana wrote:I like implosion less, some things he said are making my spider senses tingle.
The following caused my tingling:
In post 35, implosion wrote:I have a somewhat scummy first impression of Kain. The Comm vote looks somewhat awkward/opportunistic simply by virtue of only happening after mine, yet having reasoning that was already available when Kain made post 13. 17 jumps to conclusions, accusing Comm of refusing to take his vote off and tunneling pretty shortly after the vote on Transcend. It looks like jumping on the easy target. The last line of 23 reads as trying to keep options open to switch to a wagon on me if Comm starts being read as town.
This feels like a very forced interpretation of Kain's actions. While I do agree that Kain's initial CK vote wasn't as town as I thought it was given that he was fluffposting prior to making the vote, saying is jumping to conclusions is pretty patently false considering CK had just said in the previous post that he's voteparking until he gets a claim. Kain's definition of tunneling is iffy but I very much disagree that he was jumping to conclusions or jumping on the easy target. I also particularly don't like the last line about "keeping options open" because it looks to me like implosion took it out of context to force the interpretation. To me it's pretty clear that in context Kain is explaining to CK that his(Kain's) issues with the implosion vote aren't because he's(Kain's) townreading implosion but rather that Kain has issues with CK's methodology.

I've been guilty in games past of getting a gut scum vibe and forcing the interpretation like this before, so I'm not treating this as a pure scumtell i.e. OMG SCUM LYNCH IT NAONAONAO. I still like Implosion's earlier posts but this definitely deteriorates the townread.
In post 74, Syryana wrote:Kain read deteriorated somewhat. Still like Comm.
Oh Kain. Long story short, my kneejerk townread of Kain deteriorated when I realized I missed his fluffpost. The thing I liked about Kain is the naturalness of his posting chain with CK and that he didn't react until after implosion's vote really threw a wrench in my mental gears. On reread(rereread?) however I've decided it doesn't bother me enough to stop townreading Kain.

CK is still CK. Haven't seen anything from him that makes me change my mind.
In post 74, Syryana wrote:P.S. Setup spec is worthless atm
This was actually in reference to . It's not setup spec in the usual sense, but trying to guess teams and eliminate teams (which I think is pretty dumb to start with) is REALLY dumb when we have zero information regarding the number of scum etc.

*wipes sweat off forehead* Alright. Time to throw some commentary out there on the new stuff! In another post.
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Post Post #158 (isolation #5) » Thu Jan 12, 2017 7:13 am

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In post 83, Parama wrote:
In post 57, Transcend wrote:That looks like a bit of a stretch

VOTE: Stormcloud
crap, you're scum. oh well.

UNVOTE:
VOTE: Transcend
Uwotm8

Why's this a scumtell
In post 89, implosion wrote:I'm also good with that for now.
Unvote

VOTE: Transcend
(L-2 I believe)

I'll get back to Kain later.
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In post 90, Morning Tweet wrote:Nevermind the substance of the reads, I don't think there was any scum motivation behind changing a scum-fabricated Comm townread to a scumread that quickly, calling attention to herself in the process. I believe newbscum would simply stick to their guns, and if they had a good enough reason, change their read later.

Curious if Syry saw it this way too.
Yep. Don't like the vote, but liked that she did it. Also liked how she talked to Transcend and you afterwards.

In post 110, CommKnight wrote:I think his theme song is "We all live on the yellow SCUM-marine".
It wasn't before, but it certainly is now. I'ma go make some lyrics.
In post 114, KainTepes wrote:actually now that i see this post,, seems more like CommKnight is just genuine newbie town trying to solve the game, he just has a different style to it that can be seen as scummy

VOTE: Stormcloud for accusing KAIN TEPES OF OPPORTUNISTIC VOTING!!!!!!!

like c'mon, the way you phrased it in your latest post is just too scummy. you clearly want to place a vote on me and argue against me, but due to scummy tentativeness you try to phrase it as "everyone else's suspicion of me" instead of your own,, and then say "maybe scum won't be that obvious"..... it's a lot of text, stormcloud,, and it's all INFORMATION WITHOUT ANALYSIS

SCUM DETECTED!!!!!!!!!!
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In post 123, Stormcloud wrote:@Comm I like what implosion's had to say. He's not my strongest town read by a long shot but I just think our views on the game are so different that neither of us is likely to convince the other of what implosion's alignment is. We could argue for the rest of Day 1 and I don't think either of us would change our read on him, so I don't see the value in continuing that discussion. I understand why you're scumreading him, but I just don't agree with it.
Posts like this are why I love you
In post 127, Stormcloud wrote:Mini little readlist,
Talk to me about Transcend. I don't really get why people are scumreading him.
In post 148, Transcend wrote:Jsyk if you're obv towning in these walls of text, that's your fault

Still not reading any of them

Say less for God's sake, it's not hard to condense
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Post Post #159 (isolation #6) » Thu Jan 12, 2017 7:15 am

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In post 152, KainTepes wrote:Syryana who are you scumreading,, your long wallpost essentially summarized to townreading everyone you mentioned
Yeah, I tend to townhunt early on rather than scumhunt unless something really jumps out at me. So far nothing has.

My lynch pool is {Gamma, Transcend, Parama}. I'm leaning towards Gamma at the moment.
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Post Post #161 (isolation #7) » Thu Jan 12, 2017 7:21 am

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Hey Storm. Talk to me about Transcend?
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Post Post #163 (isolation #8) » Thu Jan 12, 2017 7:23 am

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Gotcha. So you're more scumreading by POE than any particular reason, yes?
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Post Post #164 (isolation #9) » Thu Jan 12, 2017 7:24 am

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In post 162, Stormcloud wrote:Parama
What's got you so doubtful Parama is scum?
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Post Post #166 (isolation #10) » Thu Jan 12, 2017 7:27 am

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Yeah I'm not scumreading him. He's not god tier town but I'm still thinking he's town.
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Post Post #168 (isolation #11) » Thu Jan 12, 2017 7:37 am

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Reasonable, but my main problem with Parama so far is I haven't seen anything from him that he isn't more than capable of faking as scum.
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Post Post #169 (isolation #12) » Thu Jan 12, 2017 7:40 am

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A caveat to that is the Transcend vote, which I'm very interested in hearing the reasoning for.
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Post Post #171 (isolation #13) » Thu Jan 12, 2017 7:50 am

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To be honest I don't have anything specific on Parama beyond gut. Last time I played with him was 4 years ago in Xylbot mafia. I dunno how to explain it, but I'll try. It just seems to me that he's here but not making waves. The only thing I've seen from him so far that piqued my interest is the Transcend vote. Otherwise he's just not being noteworthy? I'm doing a terrible job of explaining this but that's all I got.
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Post Post #174 (isolation #14) » Thu Jan 12, 2017 7:56 am

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Off the top of my head I really liked his CK reaction in RVS. I didn't like his move onto KT later and I can't think of anything that really ping'd me one way or another since. Let me go reread him really quick.
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Post Post #176 (isolation #15) » Thu Jan 12, 2017 8:00 am

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Well that was fast.

I guess the best answer to your question was when I made the lynchpool it consisted of just people that I haven't seen anything townish from. Implosion's TR has degraded a lot but compared to the three in the list he's at least done SOMETHING townish.

Though I really really really really don't like the KT hop. At all.

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Post Post #186 (isolation #16) » Thu Jan 12, 2017 9:13 am

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Yer breakin my heart here storm
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Post Post #189 (isolation #17) » Thu Jan 12, 2017 9:24 am

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Nah, it was a joke in reference to the comment you made about bussing.

Why are you so certain of your implosion read?
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Post Post #192 (isolation #18) » Thu Jan 12, 2017 9:37 am

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Nope, I think we've reached a point where we more or less understand each other. You agree?
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Post Post #206 (isolation #19) » Thu Jan 12, 2017 10:42 am

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I just realized that two people in my lynch pool are voting the third person in my lynchpool. Huh.
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Post Post #213 (isolation #20) » Thu Jan 12, 2017 11:12 am

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In post 199, Stormcloud wrote:[3] Transcend (
Gamma Emerald
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Parama
, implosion)
@Transcend: Bolded.
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Post Post #219 (isolation #21) » Thu Jan 12, 2017 11:19 am

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No, because I explained all this already.
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Post Post #221 (isolation #22) » Thu Jan 12, 2017 11:41 am

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It's not.
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Post Post #223 (isolation #23) » Thu Jan 12, 2017 1:11 pm

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I have less than 20 posts and only 2 of them are walls. I'm sure you'll figure it out.
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Post Post #312 (isolation #24) » Fri Jan 13, 2017 8:55 pm

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I've been busy.

I'm also in no particular hurry to do anything at the moment, but I'll probably declare intent to hammer at some point if this game goes nowhere.

Storm, I'll be round if you want to chat.
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Post Post #315 (isolation #25) » Fri Jan 13, 2017 9:13 pm

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Good call.
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Post Post #354 (isolation #26) » Fri Jan 13, 2017 10:00 pm

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My opinion is:
VOTE: Transcend
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Post Post #355 (isolation #27) » Fri Jan 13, 2017 10:00 pm

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Sup, implo.
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Post Post #357 (isolation #28) » Fri Jan 13, 2017 10:04 pm

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I'm surprised you'd be quite so frustrated given my prior post.
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Post Post #360 (isolation #29) » Fri Jan 13, 2017 10:11 pm

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It happens. If you want to talk to me I'll be round.
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Post Post #363 (isolation #30) » Sat Jan 14, 2017 2:13 am

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I'm not normally active at 2AM, if that helps :D
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Post Post #388 (isolation #31) » Sat Jan 14, 2017 9:32 am

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In post 364, Stormcloud wrote:Syry what do you think about Parama, KT, and CommKnight's inability to get off the implosion wagon?
The only people left who could hammer are myself (not happening), you (doesn't seem to be happening), Tweet (didn't seem keen on it in her last post), and Gamma (nope).
Therefore it's bizarre to me that likely two, possibly more town members are clinging to that wagon like a lifeboat in a storm.

I really just want to discuss some alternatives since Transcend and implosion are so obsessed with each other right now and can't seem to look anywhere else. Even if Transcend is scum there's still probably one, possibly more, out there.
In post 368, Stormcloud wrote:So KT, if you think implosion is scum, do you think I'm:

Scumbuddies with him?
Town lying about a scum and playing against my win condition?

Those are really the only options I see. If you think I'm town, then implosion is town too. If you think implosion is scum, you're saying im either scum or blatantly lying town.
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Post Post #389 (isolation #32) » Sat Jan 14, 2017 9:33 am

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And I didn't know that the quick quote thing worked with quick reply!
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Post Post #392 (isolation #33) » Sat Jan 14, 2017 9:43 am

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No dearie, about how the people on the implo wagon not figuring out what you were softing isn't really AI
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Post Post #395 (isolation #34) » Sat Jan 14, 2017 9:47 am

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It's fine. I really suck at figuring out crumbs myself so
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Post Post #398 (isolation #35) » Sat Jan 14, 2017 9:52 am

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UNVOTE:

Because I don't trust Kain not to do something silly.

Vote's still functionally on Transcend.
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Post Post #404 (isolation #36) » Sat Jan 14, 2017 10:06 am

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That's not a crumb, that a friggin Enigma cipher
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Post Post #482 (isolation #37) » Sat Jan 14, 2017 11:08 am

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Storm. Parama.

If Transcend townflips, what then?
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Post Post #497 (isolation #38) » Sat Jan 14, 2017 11:13 am

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In post 490, Stormcloud wrote:I didn't realize he had intent
I didn't, actually.
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Post Post #506 (isolation #39) » Sat Jan 14, 2017 11:19 am

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In post 500, Transcend wrote:Syr you had implosion as town yet did nothing to dissolve his wagon when he was L-1.
Voting you basically dissolved the wagon. You're full of shit.
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Post Post #599 (isolation #40) » Sat Jan 14, 2017 1:23 pm

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Part of me wants to lynch Kain for some peace and goddamn quiet.

The other part of me wants to win this game.
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Post Post #604 (isolation #41) » Sat Jan 14, 2017 1:27 pm

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I doubt it'll be an explanation that doesn't require one to wear pants on their head to understand.
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Post Post #607 (isolation #42) » Sat Jan 14, 2017 1:30 pm

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In post 605, Stormcloud wrote:Why are you voting for Parama?
Because Parama is in my lynch pool. Has been for a while. Not feeling Transcend anymore either.
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Post Post #609 (isolation #43) » Sat Jan 14, 2017 1:33 pm

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¯\_(ツ)_/¯
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Post Post #683 (isolation #44) » Sun Jan 15, 2017 8:56 am

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In post 682, Stormcloud wrote:I think he didn't defend implosion because he would have been okay with lynching him.
I actually didn't defend implosion because I had a suspicion the two of you were masons from your earlier posts about him being solid town. I did a reread after I made my "bored, intent to intent to hammer if nothing happens" post and realized you were way too certain he was town. I didn't want to call attention to the fact in the event the wagon derailed without a claim.
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Post Post #747 (isolation #45) » Sun Jan 15, 2017 6:12 pm

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I'll bite.

VOTE: Morning Tweet
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Post Post #750 (isolation #46) » Sun Jan 15, 2017 6:28 pm

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In post 749, Parama wrote:why is tweet scum.
I don't know that she is. What I do know is this: Storm is town. Implosion is town. I have pretty strong townfeels on Comm; have since. After the events of Transcend wagon and the last few pages, I have some townfeels on the two of you respectively. Kain is probably town, though that's been an up and down coaster all game. This leaves Gamma and Tweet.

What I want is for those remaining two to start having conversations with the rest of us rather than being either V/LA or posting once or twice a day. Guess which one I can do something about?
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In post 749, Parama wrote:what is the motivation behind any of your votes.
You can ask about specific ones, I'm not going through all that.
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Post Post #778 (isolation #47) » Mon Jan 16, 2017 10:02 am

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Sorry Tweet. Hope to play with you again sometime!
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Post Post #780 (isolation #48) » Mon Jan 16, 2017 10:06 am

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Pretty much.
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Post Post #806 (isolation #49) » Mon Jan 16, 2017 12:10 pm

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Transcend, do us all a favor and be silent until Cloud catches up. TIA.
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Post Post #838 (isolation #50) » Tue Jan 17, 2017 9:26 am

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UNVOTE:
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Post Post #854 (isolation #51) » Tue Jan 17, 2017 1:26 pm

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In post 853, CommKnight wrote:But anyway, pending that, Intention to vote Syr in 24 hours from now whether or not it's the hammer.
Considering you're voting for me already, what's the point of this?
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Post Post #857 (isolation #52) » Tue Jan 17, 2017 2:10 pm

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In post 855, Stormcloud wrote:CommKnight is not currently voting for anyone, I believe.
Cloudkicker != commknight, hurr I'm a durr
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Post Post #894 (isolation #53) » Wed Jan 18, 2017 4:46 pm

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VOTE: KainTepes
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Post Post #899 (isolation #54) » Wed Jan 18, 2017 5:36 pm

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Giving no fucks is what I'm doing.
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Post Post #1463 (isolation #55) » Thu Feb 02, 2017 3:17 pm

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Great job town
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