In Memory

[Klingoncelt]

Normally I'd vote for a stranger here, in this case Deimos27, with a "nice to meet ya."

But the Gamma Emerald/Shadow_Step fight intrigues me. Why? Because I'm not used to seeing Shadow in such a cranky mood.

Please, do go on, you two.

[Klingoncelt]

VOTE: Shadow_Step

Deimos 27 is probably Scum too.

[Klingoncelt]

Wth is this non sense.
How is gamma ob town? And why am I scum?
KC wanna explain why your are voting me?

You're too angry. Something's off about that.

Your interactions with Gamma are weird too.

[Klingoncelt]

VOTE: Gamma

Because jealousy.

VOTE: Titus

OMGUS.

VOTE: Clemency

Anyone with a Light Yagami avatar is always scum.

There did I do enough useful things

I'm not seeing this as Town.

[Klingoncelt]

Titus is scared of me because I lynched her in green day micro based of almost nothing so wants me gone.

I know Titus better than that.

[Klingoncelt]

Mastina - Won as scum, never called out on joke voteSubject: Inorganic Chemistry

Because let's face it.
It's Metal Sonic.
And Titus.
METAL SONIC.
And TITUS.

Is there ANY universe where they

aren't

scum here?

I have to agree with Mastina on this point.

[Klingoncelt]

Hello everyone.

I'm Kalista, a Requested Soulbinder Modified Conditional Flavor Cop Global Modified Cop Modified Reflexive Delayer Double Dayer.

VOTE: VedithVOTE:

Who claims Cop right out of the gate?

[Klingoncelt]

Grandma, hey...

Can you say why the interactions are weird?

Not really, I'm sick so I'm having trouble articulating. But as best I can say it, there's no

there

there. His "case" is that Gamma only voted him after the wagon got going and Gamma's vote was based on an old post.

I'm not seeing how this proves SCUM!Gamma.

But SS only goes after Gamma after his hopes of a grudge PL on you fails.

[Klingoncelt]

Wth is this non sense.
How is gamma ob town? And why am I scum?
KC wanna explain why your are voting me?

You're too angry. Something's off about that.

Your interactions with Gamma are weird too.

So how does that make me scum?

That sort of thing definitely isn't Town.

[Klingoncelt]

UNVOTE:

We have 11 more days, might as well drag things out.

LycanFire

, could you tell us how Requested Soulbinder Modified Conditional Flavor Cop Global Modified Cop Modified Reflexive Delayer Double Dayer works?

[Klingoncelt]

I'm also trying to crumb my role, but with my flavor, it's kind of difficult.

Why do people always want to crumb their roles on Day 1?

[Klingoncelt]

Was anyone besides me having trouble getting the site to load Wednesday night/early Thursday morning?

[Klingoncelt]

Yup. I am hated. For good reason admitably.

This post got by me before, I'm glad that I decided to re-read.

@Creeps20

What's the good reason for your being hated?

[Klingoncelt]

Don't answer that question Creeps.

Why not?

[Klingoncelt]

@Creeps20

What's the good reason for your being hated?

[Klingoncelt]

I agree Drealmerz. You'll have a vote there from me forever. The rest of the town isn't doing it though.

Grandma, why no effort to sort me?

I've been very sick so I can't give 100%. More like 80% right now, but it's improving.

One bit of sorting's done, we agree on Shadow and you're known for not busing, so there's that.

Anyway, I've re-read the thread and I'm going to do it again tonight, but I can't get past Shadow Step. I withdrew my vote and have been holding back because we still have a good bit of time left, but I'll re-vote him in the next couple of days.

[Klingoncelt]

Happy birthday, Postie!

[Klingoncelt]

Kurou came and voted Titus, I thought they are two different players.

Don't you keep some record of the names on the playerlist? Either DEO or Titus would not be there.

[Klingoncelt]

I changed my mind. I'll vote now.

VOTE: Shadow_Step

[Klingoncelt]

Grandma, what are your reads besides Shadowstep? I know you're not 100% but I would love your thoughts while you are here.

I'm not up to it today, blood work left me with a wicked headache.

Basically I have the playerlist divided in two. KillTheStory/(Shadow_Step)'s flip will tell me a lot.

I'm not seeing Rach Marie as being as scummy as she was in the cancelled game, are you sure she's Scum?

[Klingoncelt]

Hi, KTS!

Too bad you replaced into a Scum slot.

[Klingoncelt]

also why the fuck was i told to claim? roles were created before alignments, and alignments were randomized is what i see. does it really matter my role?

Because you're at L-1 last time I looked.

[Klingoncelt]

I think u should read before replying ty

Usually when I log in there are 20 new pages to go through. No way in hell am I reading that many pages twice, I reply to posts as I come to them.

Anyway,

KillTheStory

, does anyone stand out as scummy to you?

[Klingoncelt]

KillTheStory

, How does 1-Shot Delayed Deathproof work?

[Klingoncelt]

Not the 1-shot, but the delayed deathproof part.

[Klingoncelt]

Grandma, what are your reads besides Shadowstep? I know you're not 100% but I would love your thoughts while you are here.

I'm not up to it today, blood work left me with a wicked headache.

Basically I have the playerlist divided in two. KillTheStory/(Shadow_Step)'s flip will tell me a lot.

I'm not seeing Rach Marie as being as scummy as she was in the cancelled game, are you sure she's Scum?

P sure. What divisions are you seeing?

Ah - it's great what some food, a decent bit of sleep, and some caffeine will do.

There are multiple factions. That bit of info had gone right over my head.

From a singleball pov the game was feeling 'off.'

I had half the players as Scum and half as Null.

[Klingoncelt]

if i die from anything other than lynching (i contemplated on lying on that but it wouldnt make sense and help me or town) i am reincarnated not the next day, but the day after.

Interesting.

Gee, I do hope you're Town.

[Klingoncelt]

UNVOTE:

[Klingoncelt]

if i die from anything other than lynching (i contemplated on lying on that but it wouldnt make sense and help me or town) i am reincarnated not the next day, but the day after.

Interesting.

Gee, I do hope you're Town.

That is very unlikely Grandma.

Oh and about the setup look at the first post again. It is either single ball or SK +Scum. Not quite sure where you are seeing multiple factions.

~~Alex Danvers

I know it's unlikely, but KTS is fun to play with. Sadly he's not his fun trolly self today, that added to SS's awful attitude screams Scum from the highest hills.

That said,

VOTE: KillTheStory

As for the multiple factions, it's in the win condition. The words "all" and "factions" appear. Can't really paraphrase. So it could be 11:4 or 11:3:1 or 11:2:2.

[Klingoncelt]

Hey, Grandma is probably scum now.

They are petpetually behind and not saying much (scum MO) and they vote SS when picking up steam and unvote the minute someone else does.

Did I not mention that I had been sick? I'm recovering nicely now.

I never say much, I fookin' hate wallposts.

And I don't base my votes on what others are doing, unless I say that I'm sheeping.

I unvoted KTS because of his interesting reincarnation thing. But he's not behaving right so I revoted him.

[Klingoncelt]

it looks like KC also outted themselves as your scumbuddy "woah bail time new player *pheww*" is how I read that unvote

You really think that I'm that much of a noob?

Jebus.

[Klingoncelt]

Happy birthday, Kuroi!

[Klingoncelt]

I'm cool with KainTepes.

[Klingoncelt]

If KTS is Town I might be able to help...

[Klingoncelt]

Klingon has had zero useful activity since the initial burst.

Why are you having flashbacks to Math's play? I am not Math.

I did say I'd been sick. I wound up at the doctor's today. He called in a scrip for antibiotics. He wanted me to get admitted into the hospital, but I can't do that.

So my play's off.

So deal.

The good news is that I "bubbled" KTS. He's not going to the Dead Zone.

[Klingoncelt]

The good news is that I "bubbled" KTS. He's not going to the Dead Zone.

So he's coming back?

He can't come back into the game thread.

But I have him in a special place where he can act as a sort of hydra head, which I really need right now.

I'm still not sure about Rach Marie, but KTS is, so

VOTE: RachMarie.

[Klingoncelt]

Basically I have the playerlist divided in two. KillTheStory/(Shadow_Step)'s flip will tell me a lot.

Klingon when you've recovered can you expand on what you learned from the flip?

I'd be glad to.

[Klingoncelt]

I wanted to finish reading up first. I haven't done so yet but eh. I was also kind of thrown since I thought Titus was still the only one in that slot.

I'm also wondering why you didn't ask Titus what I was referencing by that point, and also the lack of comment on the fact that I didn't think Klingon had done enough for a clear townread from Titus.

Spoiler: scum read progression on Klingon

.
http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... 4#p8254334

http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... 5#p8254335

http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... 2#p8285292

http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... 5#p8299425

http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... 4#p8302914

http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... 5#p8326695

http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... 4#p8349214 (only last line is relevant)

http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... 7#p8350087

http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... 8#p8386278

http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... 0#p8386290

Klingon's ISO in that game: http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... 1#p8246433

MathBlade played us all like violins in that game. I kind of suspected them for a minute then thought nah, no way, they're Town.

[Klingoncelt]

I'm wondering about it being no D2 and no Night / no scumkill and what is going on. Not that I mind having two lynches in before scum get akill off, but, like I said, it makes me wonder what is going on.

It makes me wonder if there is some weird catch-22 going on in the game (both for scum and town! so weird!)

To explain more, if The Sun is scum, but Night can't come because The Sun is constantly "out" (alive), and scum can't perform a kill until Night...

that would mean scum have to rely on mislynches only until perchance The Sun gets lynched and then it is business as usual ?

so as much as they want to perform NKs, they don't want their own lynched
and as much as we (town) don't want NKs, we want to lynch scum, and if that is The Sun, and makes Night come

yeah, catch-22 for both

I can see RC doing that

not that I want to distract from what I think is a good lynch in RM, but, no one is really pushing that or going there it seems and I think I just sold myself on creature as scum!

UNVOTE: RachMarie
VOTE: Creature

Wait, what?

Scum can't get a kill because there's no Night, so you want to kill Day?

Why are you wanting to help Scum get Night Kills?

VOTE: drealmerz7

(Sorry, KTS, but that was a Scumslip deluxe.)

[Klingoncelt]

No, nevermind, we can lynch Rach today.

VOTE: RachMarie

[Klingoncelt]

I don't believe KTS is there with you Grandma.

I'm waiting on a reply from the Mod on whether I can post KTS's response to your statement.

But he is with me in a nice PT with Xmas cookies and hot winter drinks.

[Klingoncelt]

if night was skipped and kts was deathproof|scum what was the gain in suspending him from the game?

He's Town, not Scum.

[Klingoncelt]

MathBlade played us all like violins in that game. I kind of suspected them for a minute then thought nah, no way, they're Town.

I don't like you. This post adds nothing. You are probably scum with Rach Marie. I agree with Supergirl.

~~ Alex Danvers

Guess how much I care.

[Klingoncelt]

He called in a scrip for antibiotics. He wanted me to get admitted into the hospital, but I can't do that.

omg no don't do it!!! fire cider and vitamin c and rest and other things!!!

ooof!

make sure you take probiotics too if it's too late


errrrm...never heard of a "bubble" will go look it up

The antibiotics are just sulfides, nothing hardcore, and I'm taking vitamins with iron now.

The "bubble" refers to Steven Universe, where the Crystal Gems can put people in bubbles to trap them or help if they're injured. Mine's not an SU bubble, but it's similar.

[Klingoncelt]

KTS' reads:

Postie, Jae, Vedith, Creature, DEO, Drealm, Deimos - all Town

Zefiend, Creep - Null

Kuroi - Can't give a Townread because gut feeling. Lean Scum

Mine:

Rach Marie I was having doubts about but her posts really aren't up to standard for her, so I'll happily keep the vote there.

Town: Jae, Creature, Gamma Emerald, Postie, Vedith

Null: Kuroi, LycanFire, DEO, Zefiend

Lean Scum: Creeps, Deimos

Scum: Drealmersz

[Klingoncelt]

Okay, RC gave me permission to post this verbatim from KTS:

your eyes are bad if you cannot see that there's no scum motivation in faking bubbling. Kling might be scum herself regarding the role, but I find little scum motivation in it u numbnutss.

also here catch id kitten

[Klingoncelt]

but if you were scum and bubbling, having you slip up why you did it is worth pressing. lack of night put an interesting decision in your hands regarding when you could do it, and if you were faking entirely there was a chance you could have slipped there too.

I'm not Scum, though.

I have no control over whether Nights happen.

Honestly though, in my present state if I were Scum I'd bring back a dead Scum to help me out and I wouldn't tell anyone.

What slips are you talking about? I didn't lie, I'm not firing on all the cylinders so I brought KTS back to help, plus I like him as a player, he's a lot of fun.

The mod asked me in PM if I wanted to do it after KTS was lynched.

Your post reads like you're trying really hard to find a narrative for a faked Scumread.

[Klingoncelt]

1) i tried to explore klingon's motives. removing kts when she did hurt the town. i needed to know if she was in any way informed of the night mechanic before i could define it as anti-town.

2) if klingon is scum and was informed of the lack of night, i'd have to assume creature is scum as well.

3) you considered the same possibility (klingon as scum) but don't actually care

4) you getting touchy about me asking questions and making this about me pretty much guarantees i'm asking about something you don't want talked about

I thought Shadow was Scum, and I thought KTS was Scum. Motive for lynch.

KTS flipped Town. Motive for rescue.

How hard is that to figure out?

[Klingoncelt]

Rach Marie I was having doubts about but her posts really aren't up to standard for her, so I'll happily keep the vote there.

Town: Jae, Creature, Gamma Emerald, Postie, Vedith

Null: Kuroi, LycanFire, DEO, Zefiend

Lean Scum: Creeps, Deimos

Scum: Drealmersz

What were your doubts about RM? Why are you reading Gamma town? Why do you believe drealmerz is scum?

I doubted that Rach was Scum. In a previous game where she rolled Scum right from the start she was pinging me like a Chinese gong. That didn't happen this game, it's been a lot more gradual and more subtle.

I can't pin anything specific on Drealm, but I get a bad vibe when I read his posts.

My Gamma read comes from the arguing between him and Shadow, Shadow looked scummier.

[Klingoncelt]

We could form a townblock right?

I could definitely go for some ships.

Give me some time to think of some while not doing bureaucratic paperwork.

~~Alex Danvers

P.S. Maggie and I are a thing and Supergirl's alias has someone so don't pick us <3 I don't want to break hearts.

You're roleplaying to a fault.

Let it go.

[Klingoncelt]

OT post, but just for fun, my first choice was a slab of concrete. My second was a metal ashtray. Cowbells went with my final choice. What about you guys?

[Klingoncelt]

OT post, but just for fun, my first choice was a slab of concrete. My second was a metal ashtray. Cowbells went with my final choice. What about you guys?

Rolefishing/flavorfishing is bad. Unless your flavor is scum in that case continue on Grandma.

-- Still not Titus

I was asking about what

wasn't

chosen. Not fishing by any stretch of the imagination.

[Klingoncelt]

Wait what? Explain your read on me more.

When you and Shadow were arguing (starting page 5,) I was getting scummy vibes from both of you. But I was getting more from Shadow, so I figured he should be the one to go after first, and I can revisit you later.

It's later. I think you're Town.

[Klingoncelt]

So Klingon proposes something like Greater Idea Mafia, where we reveal our discards? I'm all for that.

Just for fun.

[Klingoncelt]

Still reviewing Shadowrun Mafia and JaeReed and KlingonCelt and this MathBlade person.

Klingon looks like they are trying too hard and JaeReed pings me as the same but I am only up until some sort of Great and Powerful Trixie bit.

-- Not Titus

I thought that was you.

Did you roll Scum again?

And why are you & Titus in a hydra together? You know that's gonna alter the earth's orbit if you deathtunnel together.

[Klingoncelt]

Ok fine I am going to hit you all with the facts its probably not gonna change any of your minds, but at least you will understand my reads and why

Plus get ready for some links from games where I was vla and did not post much and was TOWN which Creature of ALL peeps should know since he was in two of them

Rach, I'm really not able to read through the games.

Please, hit me with the facts instead.

[Klingoncelt]

UNVOTE:

For now.

[Klingoncelt]

Wow, yeah scum in the hood proven.

I disclose Math.

Suddenly, Math's meta is in play.
Both players asking about Math's meta unvote at this "revelation".

~Titus

I have absolutely no need to ask about Math's meta, I already know it.

[Klingoncelt]

Pretty much I suspect Kling and Lycanfire for knowing too much from Rach Marie.

-- Math

You're the one in the hood, how could I get info?

[Klingoncelt]

Still reviewing Shadowrun Mafia and JaeReed and KlingonCelt and this MathBlade person.

Klingon looks like they are trying too hard and JaeReed pings me as the same but I am only up until some sort of Great and Powerful Trixie bit.

-- Not Titus

I thought that was you.

Did you roll Scum again?

And why are you & Titus in a hydra together? You know that's gonna alter the earth's orbit if you deathtunnel together.

I do not follow.

I am town and so is Titus. We exist because of role PMs?

The earth's orbit is fine.

This post and prior by Not Titus.

http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... 1#p7941644

MathBlade prefers gender neutral pronouns, so they/them/their.

Here's Klingon's ISO for Bloodborne. She was scum with Nahdia, Ranger, and Bogre (though I think he barely posted at all).

Thanks JaeReed. Will read that later too.

-- Not Titus

Still reviewing Shadowrun Mafia and JaeReed and KlingonCelt and this MathBlade person.

Klingon looks like they are trying too hard and JaeReed pings me as the same but I am only up until some sort of Great and Powerful Trixie bit.

-- Not Titus

I thought that was you.

Did you roll Scum again?

And why are you & Titus in a hydra together? You know that's gonna alter the earth's orbit if you deathtunnel together.

I saw those quotes and thought you had outed, especially since Kling said what she said

I am sorry Titus I really thought you had outed

Great and Powerful Trixie gave herself away. Not the neighborhood.

[Klingoncelt]

Far as I am concerned Rach Marie Kling and Lycanfire all need ropes by Christmas.

Lynching a Townie won't cure your butthurt.

[Klingoncelt]

Pretty much I suspect Kling and Lycanfire for knowing too much from Rach Marie.

-- Math

You're the one in the hood, how could I get info?

From Rach Marie or Gamma. Strongly suspect the first.
The townie answer is I figured you out because of your meta now how would I get info?

-- Math

You have much to learn about how I think. Especially when I'm not well.

[Klingoncelt]

Explain how Lycanfire knew about my pants without having played with me.

-- MathBlade

I have no idea.

Who all in this game has? Make a list, it will be useful.

[Klingoncelt]

Lycan has to have contact with someone that knows you.

[Klingoncelt]

Explain how Lycanfire knew about my pants without having played with me.

-- MathBlade

I have no idea.

Who all in this game has? Make a list, it will be useful.

What is the most reasonable answer here?

Lycanfire makes a meta reference about me despite never having played with me as Town they just randomly look up my meta know pants is a thing and then say it?

Or one of Rach Marie or Gamma are scum. Which is more likely to you?

-- Math

Both?

I'll read through the ISOs now. This will take a couple minutes.

[Klingoncelt]

ummm mathblade was a secret? pretty shitty one then because i figured that out in the first few pages. i think revealing the hood at all was a worse decision.

How did you figure me out without having played a game with me?

He isn't interested in lynching Rach. Reads more like not wanting to bus.

...

so this is why deimos' reads were awful. without RM as top scumread, his reads were fair enough to have, but his auxiliary scumreads make no sense with RM as top read because they were on both wagons. the main problem is that he gave us these reads as a result of a faulty VCA. the only reason to bring up the composition of the day 1 wagon is to use it for day 2 (super obvious) and to use it as a mechanism to develop reads has the motive of finding scum to lynch. so in the context of day 2 ISOing RC for a day 2 vote count was apparently too hard to get reads that matter.

tldr if rach is scum, KTS was a scumwagon and rach is a townwagon. suspecting DEO, drealmers makes no sense because they were on top of both wagons. he threw shade on creature and nullread him (despite having an opinion on him) while creature is on both. this is after the fact, but creeps20 has joined both wagons since deimos' #1037 post, someone deimos omitted.

if KTS was primarily scumdriven, then deimos' post trying to pin when it was pushed is a good attempt at analysis. my problem is that he throws out the part where 3 people voted SS within 20 posts, and focuses more on his critique of drealmerz (who made one of the townier pushes on KTS) then fills in the rest of his reads without consideration of the previous. it felt like a very "i want a mislynch but i don't want to appear to only want to contribute a mislynch today" post.

if deimos' top read was anyone besides RM there would be no consistency issue.

that's why i'm weary of lynching RM and poked both of them about it. i've only gotten silence about it. i'd expect townies to want to work with me. ignoring me has scum motive where they pray i don't have a scumtell and get interested in someone else.

regardless i want to do a reread. i thought rach was annoying not scummy.

It's Rach Marie. It has to be.

[Klingoncelt]

so Kling how DID you know Math was part of Deo anyway I know I did not tell you I havent hardly been on site in days and I have had no contact without outside the main thread.

Trixie told me.

I suspected all along, the roleplay was too heavy handed, but no one else would reference Trixie.

[Klingoncelt]

Who is trixie and you have a PT with her?

The Great and Powerful Trixie was a post restriction Math had in another game.

[Klingoncelt]

nice try scumfucker titus said mathblade was her hydra partner day 1.

Link to the post, please.


VOTE: Lycanfire

[Klingoncelt]

Lycan is town though.

Explain.

[Klingoncelt]

if i die from anything other than lynching (i contemplated on lying on that but it wouldnt make sense and help me or town) i am reincarnated not the next day, but the day after.

Interesting.

Gee, I do hope you're Town.

Remember this post, you guys?

You know why I found it interesting now, don't you - It's because both our roles have mechanics involving death. KTS was a 1-Shot Delayed Deathproof, I'm a Modified 1-Shot Reviver.

I'll bet everyone in the game has a role mechanic that centers around death. In Memory refers to death, no?

This is what I'm interested in next time someone gets to L-1.

[Klingoncelt]

V/LA until January 2nd, holiday stuff.

[Klingoncelt]

Most likely is Kling or RM though.

-- Math

JaeReed light scumread is because of Lycanfire'S reaction

Quit being stupid.

I have no way of contacting Lycan.

[Klingoncelt]

Explain how Lycanfire knew about my pants without having played with me.

-- MathBlade

I have no idea.

Who all in this game has? Make a list, it will be useful.

What is the most reasonable answer here?

Lycanfire makes a meta reference about me despite never having played with me as Town they just randomly look up my meta know pants is a thing and then say it?

Or one of Rach Marie or Gamma are scum. Which is more likely to you?

-- Math

Both?

I'll read through the ISOs now. This will take a couple minutes.

Saying "Both?" with a question mark implies you have zero confidence in what you're saying, (irl this type of vocal intonation placed at the end of an answer causing it to sound more like a question, is also a queue that the speaker has zero confidence in what they are saying*).

Assuming you've ISO'd them by now, what is your conclusion?

*Which

can

be a sign of lying but is obviously not reliable because there can be other reasons to lack confidence.

You're right in the lack of confidence, if it has to be one or the other, I want to be 100% sure.

Rach would be more likely of the two to say something.

But -

I too am suspected.

Why?

Because I was in a game with Math where they talked about pants. (Actually I think pants were mentioned in Wake's giant game too, along with Nachos.)

Am I the only person here that's played in a game with MathBlade?

No.

JaeReed has.

Who else?

MathBlade needs to list everyone they've played with so we have a useable list of suspects.

[Klingoncelt]

oh yeah gender pronouns and shit

like i said i was feverish and laid down like three times during that post

I do hope you feel better soon, Lycan.

[Klingoncelt]

V/LA until January 2nd, holiday stuff.

Two weeks of V/LA, are you kidding me?

My house is like Grand fucking Central fucking Station on weekends & holidays. Xmas to New Year's is crazy time.

[Klingoncelt]

@Kling that's been done already.

I missed it, could you give me a link, please?

[Klingoncelt]

if i die from anything other than lynching (i contemplated on lying on that but it wouldnt make sense and help me or town) i am reincarnated not the next day, but the day after.

Interesting.

Gee, I do hope you're Town.

Remember this post, you guys?

You know why I found it interesting now, don't you - It's because both our roles have mechanics involving death. KTS was a 1-Shot Delayed Deathproof, I'm a Modified 1-Shot Reviver.

I'll bet everyone in the game has a role mechanic that centers around death. In Memory refers to death, no?

This is what I'm interested in next time someone gets to L-1.

since i'm at l-1 i can answer this

i had a role reason to vote KTS

that's also why i need to do a reread. day 1 was boring and after KTS claimed i knew i was going to lynch him and was happy to hammer

Lycan, you're at L-1. Might as well out your role.

[Klingoncelt]

Wait that's a different list

That is the proper list.

No it isn't.

I want a list of everyone in this game that you have played with in previous games. Me. JaeReed. RachMarie.

Who else?

Didn't you use the "pants" reference in Wake's game (along with the nachos?)

In other games?

Is LycanFire an alt?

[Klingoncelt]

one thing you ought to consider is that there will probably be a night after this day period. see ya later

I thought that as long as Creature (the Sun) was alive we wouldn't have Night.

How does your lynching create Night?

[Klingoncelt]

sorry i think i'm recovering from all the blood that oozed out of my nose today

I think you should call off work and get some rest.

[Klingoncelt]

He's fucking goddamn confirmed.

Do not use the word "confirmed" unless the Mod has used it first. No one is confirmed until they flip or the Mod confirms them.

VOTE: RachMarie

[Klingoncelt]

I thought that as long as Creature (the Sun) was alive we wouldn't have Night.

Lmao then we could just keep Creature alive the whole game (or until Lylo if we thought they were scum) and scum wouldn't get any kills ever.
I can guarantee you that's not how that works.

Oh no doubt they'd have some way of blotting out the Sun.

[Klingoncelt]

You have no idea how sad I am that I couldn't find a youtube clip of bugs bunny in king arthur's court where he threatens to blot out the sun as a response to that.

lol

[Klingoncelt]

Wait that's a different list

That is the proper list.

No it isn't.

I want a list of everyone in this game that you have played with in previous games. Me. JaeReed. RachMarie.

Who else?

Didn't you use the "pants" reference in Wake's game (along with the nachos?)

In other games?

Is LycanFire an alt?

That is the list.

I use the pants thing a lot.

-- Math

Anyone on that list can be Scum, then, and told Lycan. Fuck.

Postie
drealmersz7
RachMarie
Creature
Vedith
Gamma Emerald
Klingoncelt
LycanFire
Creeps20
KuroiXHF


Why is Lycan on the list? I thought you said you never played with him before.

UNVOTE:

Fuck.

[Klingoncelt]

Anyone on that list can be Scum, then, and told Lycan. Fuck.

Haha what an over the top post. "Anyone ... can be scum...

and told Lycan.

Fuck.

- Lots of mislynches to be had i guess

- Btw everyone, I think Lycan is scum

- The situation is so dire I need to show some emotion now

FoS: Klingoncelt

Why exactly did you ever unvote me if I was scum? Why didn't you call for an immediate hammer after I full claimed like you wanted?

I'll answer-it's because you believed me.

That's why most people unvoted me.

Scum were on my wagon-they're not because I'm now too high risk to lynch. My opinions need to be meaningless or someone besides me might start thinking critically about this ridiculous pants thing and before you know it, there's no mislynch today, just dead scum.

The thing is though, lynching me today is probably scum's best hope. Consider that while you all sit on the fence with the RM lynch.

The pants argument won't go away. Titus and MathBlade in a hydra deathtunnel guarantees a massive disruption in the time/space continuum.

The list shows that nearly anyone besides RachMarie or Gamma could have told you. It doesn't really help

you

, it helps

them

.

Unless you're an alt of someone that played with Math, or if you played with her on another site.

[Klingoncelt]

Unless you're an alt of someone that played with Math, or if you played with

her

them on another site.

The pronoun police have corrected your typo.

Please continue the good work and be careful to double check preferences in the future.

Indeed. Thanks for catching that, Jae.

My apologies to MathBlade.

[Klingoncelt]

one thing you ought to consider is that there will probably be a night after this day period. see ya later

I thought that as long as Creature (the Sun) was alive we wouldn't have Night.

How does your lynching create Night?

Lycanfire

, can you elaborate on this?

[Klingoncelt]

VOTE: Boring

Not moving my vote again.

[Klingoncelt]

No, wait, I have to, there aren't enough votes to lynch Boring today, are there?

VOTE: Lycanfire

[Klingoncelt]

So Boring is the designated lynch then?

This jumping back & forth is giving me motion sickness.

VOTE: Boring


KillTheStory has a different set of reads. He says Boring screams town and Lycan feels town, Drealm and Kuroi are both scum with Kuroi definitely being scum, and DEO and Jae are town. Creature can be whatever they're not much of a threat along with Zefiend.

[Klingoncelt]

kc do you have any personal reasons to want RM/boring dead or is kts just in there with you to scream into a vacuum?

RM's posts were "off." At first I didn't see it, but as the game went on it became pretty obvious.

[Klingoncelt]

JaeReed, Zefiend, Deimos, Lycan,

between the 4 of you 2 should vote for Boring.

[Klingoncelt]

Boring: you said d7 was your top scumread so why are you making jaereed's flash wagon your alt wagon?

I feel less conflicted about Kuroi.

@Klingoncelt, can you ghost-bubble me too? It sounds kind of fun.

I was only able to do it once.

Maybe Lycan can do something -

Lyncanfire, what does Requested Soulbinder do?

[Klingoncelt]

Happy New Year, everyone!

[Klingoncelt]

i'm taking d7's refusal to answer as riding out deadline. i gave him too many chances and all he wants is for me to be more vague to wiggle out of this when i don't have to do shit for him. a townie would have stated their thought process, but he has none because he's making shit up.

i'm fine with getting the flip VOTE: boring

So that was hammer?

This ridiculous Day has finally come to an end?

KTS thinks Mhsmith0 is Town. I think he's Null.

[Klingoncelt]

MafiaScum janitors are listed in the Wiki as exclusively cleaning Night Kills.

I've never heard of one cleaning up after a lynch.

[Klingoncelt]

Just thinking out loud here... Postie claims to be voteless, Gamma says he can't vote Days 2 and 4.

Could their pairing have something to do with the vote restrictions?

[Klingoncelt]

Hey, Titus, what Day will we be popcorn claiming?

[Klingoncelt]

The sun has returned and the day will continue!

Not sure how else to interpret this.

Lycanfire also made a claim:

... if you want to lynch me you can't actually get rid of me. ... you're stuck with me.

one thing you ought to consider is that there will probably be a night after this day period.

...

[Klingoncelt]

@kuroi

If creature was scum, don't you think the wise move for the scum team would have been to bus him day 1 before there were 2 day cycles in a row?

I'm having trouble following this. Why should the Scums bus on Day1?

[Klingoncelt]

...

If creature was scum, don't you think the wise move for the scum team would have been to bus him day 1 before there were 2 day cycles in a row?

I'm having trouble following this. Why should the Scums bus on Day1?

For more kills obviously

That's not brilliant. It makes more sense for Scum to try and keep the team alive as long as possible.

[Klingoncelt]

Lycanfire was claiming to have caused the Night 1 skip.

[Klingoncelt]

[quote="In post 285, Lycanfire"]Hello everyone.

I'm Kalista, a Requested Soulbinder Modified Conditional Flavor Cop Global Modified Cop Modified Reflexive Delayer

Double Dayer

.

[Klingoncelt]

Sorry that was my role in my last RC game. I think I'm stuck in the past

It was a joke.

What do you make of his 1417?

[Klingoncelt]

I'm not building a scum-meta case on Titus, I'm trying to show how things appear in the context of THIS game. Also see above posts; I have experience with Titus as both alignments.

What if I told you that I had extensive experience with Titus and that she tends to be aggressive, tunnelly, and unafraid to strongarm lynches (even bad ones) as town, while as scum she tends to be more subdued and reasonable-sounding?

That meta doesn't always apply to Titus.

MathBlade is a little less aggro as Scum than as Town.

The hydra played a significant part in two lynches, one that flipped Town and one that didn't flip, and they pushed a third player who died at Night and flipped Town.

Titus usually does better than that when she's in a hydra and a neighborhood.

[Klingoncelt]

Meta thing, when Titus is in a hydra she's more confident. When she's in a neighborhood she's more confident. She's willing to do a bit of gambiting.

She normally would have started building a Townbloc on Day1, but here we are in Day3 and she hasn't broached the subject yet.

No attempt whatsoever to join forces with anyone. No gambits

I don't like it. Not one bit.

VOTE: The DEO

[Klingoncelt]

Meta thing, when Titus is in a hydra she's more confident. When she's in a neighborhood she's more confident. She's willing to do a bit of gambiting.

She normally would have started building a Townbloc on Day1, but here we are in Day3 and she hasn't broached the subject yet.

No attempt whatsoever to join forces with anyone. No gambits

I don't like it. Not one bit.

VOTE: The DEO

Oh I have a townblock. You are not in it Grandma.

~Titus

Then it's likely not a Town bloc.

I'll keep the vote on you.

[Klingoncelt]

....Brain hurts.

Fucks given hard to find.

Will post something useful later.

Until then I (Math head) prod dodge. Titus will post useful things.

~~Math

I like having my vote here.

[Klingoncelt]

Man if only I had a fruit or vegetable to power me up.

~~Math

[Klingoncelt]

I don't see any other option and that is what freaks me out about this game. I am a bullheaded hated player. No one listens or follows what I do. It is why I can't get invested because every time I try I get creeped out when I reread.

~~Math

What a load of wank. Everyone listened to you.

You were early on KTS's wagon, you led the lynch on Boring/(RachMarie), and you wanted LycanFirelynched - now he's dead and he flipped Town. KTS flipped Town. Boring didn't flip.

You're 0 - 2 - 1 so far, and you're whining about not being listened to?

People, the DEO hydra contains Scum. Please lynch them.

[Klingoncelt]

Man if only I had a fruit or vegetable to power me up.

~~Math

Don't worry, this game is literally bananas.

[Klingoncelt]

How come?

oh ,now, you didn't say if I answered there were going to be follow-ups!!!

do you like raisins?

I have raisins...

they are fruit too

[Klingoncelt]

And with Titus apparently wanting to use him to pass messages to me

because RC would ~never~ put two scum in a 3p neighbourhood,

keeping him alive could be potentially disastrous if Titus starts giving him important role info or some bullshit.

Boring never flipped.

There's no

confirmation

of any Scum in that hood.

[Klingoncelt]

Titus doesn't support a Vax lynch.

~~Math

Titus is well-known for not busing...

[Klingoncelt]

Titus doesn't support a Vax lynch.

~~Math

Titus is well-known for not busing...

Cherry pick much? I am known for driving greyhound into the dirt.

~~Math

But you said

Titus

was opposed to the Vax lynch.

Is Titus there? I'd like to know why, actually.

I've been getting Scummy vibes from Vax.

[Klingoncelt]

@deo: yeah that's fine. I'm just skeptical he actually did use his redirect in that situation.

My gut says I don't like Drealmerz mhsmith0 and JaeReed. Slight tinge of Klingon but that is mainly because they keep trying to forget that this is a hydra.

~~Math

I'm more used to Titus' playstyle.

[Klingoncelt]

Watch the language. This isn't exactly a hydra. It's a hydra plus.

Plus what?

[Klingoncelt]

wow, take care KC

You sure get sick a lot. use herbal stuff

Welcome to the game, and thanks.

I think it's because we have kids in the house all the time and they bring in all sorts of lovely germs from school.

[Klingoncelt]

Anyone who was redirected overnight needs to claim now.

~~Math

I can't be directed, re-directed, or misdirected. All I had was the bubble.

[Klingoncelt]

The way he was killed

He should have been alive today. something is really wrong about this

Could he have been a 1-Shot Delayed and was shot twice in the Night - once by Scum, once by the Vig?

[Klingoncelt]

I am used to treestump being alive and can be killed again if they are too chatty.

~~Math

What? Where does that happen? Are players warned that they'll be killed for talking too much? That's nuts.

[Klingoncelt]

Happy Birthday, Gamma!

[Klingoncelt]

You guys are reading it wrong.

"Dictator (1-Shot Informing Redirector): Once per game, Tito may order any one player to target another player with all of their night actions. They will know they were redirected, and they will know to whom they were redirected.
Country (Delayed Death): If Tito is killed at night, the country will stay together for the following day phase before collapsing. If lynched you will get one chance to make a night action if you haven't already made one."

So,

Dictator

can order a loud redirect at any time in the game, forcing someone to use all of their night actions on just 1 other player.

Why would Lycan draw fire on himself? Not logical.

Drealm says he wasn't notified of being redirected or who was the ultimate target. If true, then it looks like he was blocked and

did not make the kill.

Country (Delayed Death)

sounds like a neighborhood. It will dissolve as soon as this Day ends. That would easily explain the "pants" slip, someone is in a 'Hood with him -

was

in a 'Hood with him - and that neighbor must have let slip that Math likes pants on.



My two cents.

[Klingoncelt]

wait when you used that ability KC? there was no night 1

I was asked by the Mod if I wanted to use it just after KTS was lynched and flipped.

[Klingoncelt]

Country (Delayed Death) sounds like a neighborhood. It will dissolve as soon as this Day ends. That would easily explain the "pants" slip, someone is in a 'Hood with him - was in a 'Hood with him - and that neighbor must have let slip that Math likes pants on.

If this were the case wouldn't they have outed by now though? :/ I don't disagree with your reading of it but that's the one question I keep hitting a wall on.

Maybe, maybe not. I think it depends on who was in the Neighborhood. Some people don't like outing. It might have been just 1 other person, but Yugoslavia was made up of 3 countries, so I'm guessing he had 2 Neighbors.

They should out themselves.

[Klingoncelt]

how klingon knew about math being in deo hydra if she wasn't in neighbourhood?

The Great and Powerful Trixie left some tells.

[Klingoncelt]

I'm

Tito, representing the nation of Yugoslavia

.

I have two roles in one.

Dictator: [redacted]

Country: Delayed Death

reads

town { postie, kuroi, klingoncelt, creature, zefiend, deimos }
townlean { vedith, creeps20}
scumlean { gamma emerald, rachmarie, DEO, jaereed}
kingscum { drealmerz7 }

i've completed the notes for my reread but it's 5:30am, i haven't had any sleep and i work at 2. if you want to lynch me you can't actually get rid of me. i know i'm a dissident voice and that's annoying but you're stuck with me.

one thing you ought to consider is that there will probably be a night after this day period. see ya later

He claimed his role here. Just pinning this to keep time

How did he know there would be a night if Creature controls it???

BECAUSE CREATURE WAS IN HIS NEIGHBORHOOD!!!

I'll bet $5 on it.

[Klingoncelt]

@RC where is your explanation about the role?!

Come on!

Ask me a specific question and I'll either give you a specific answer or tell you I can't answer.

Okay -

RC, does Delayed Death refer to Lycanfire or to his "country?"

Is Lycanfire's "country" a Neighborhood?

[Klingoncelt]

LycanFire's country is not a neighbourhood. Theoretically upon death barring any sorts of shenanigans he would be able to post and vote in this day phase as normal.

So. There were shenanigans.

*sigh*

[Klingoncelt]

ok now we're back at whoever used any abilities that fucked with this claim.

You don't have so much time

A Roleblocker probably couldn't do it.

A Vanilla-izer could.

So could someone that can steal the role.

[Klingoncelt]

he was vanalised or

something manipulated time period

I've never seen that happen, how does it work?

[Klingoncelt]

Fast or slow, Day 2 still exists. He should be here.

[Klingoncelt]

perhaps the fact that he barely said shit and when he did it was fishy as fuck and ppl scumread him and so he stfu and maybe replaced out because he felt like an obvious scumfuck?

did he have reason to feel that way? I mean he's not being wagoned rn. Actually...

@mod: why is creeps not on the current VC http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... 3#p8722703 and the other day 3 VC's?

If that's been asked/answered nevermind I guess.

Because Frozen Angel replaced him.

[Klingoncelt]

Klingoncelt hasn't been doing much either. :/

Too much RL craziness and I'm sick again. I am here, though, and taking notes.

One note comes after Mhsmith0's name - 'What's he doing that's any different from what got RachMarie lynched?'

[Klingoncelt]

UNVOTE:

VOTE: Vaxkiller


KTS Scumreads KuroiXHF and Drealm. These two and Vax are the likely Scumteam.

[Klingoncelt]

What does KTS say about vax?

I told KTS that I thought Vax was Scum, and KTS said 'Perhaps.'

[Klingoncelt]

I'm never going to intentionally shoot down (I AM town vig+...)

at this juncture I'm simply leaning KC with my next shot if/when I have one

but it's an early juncture and we have the whole Day ahead of us

If you agree to shoot KC, I will unvote you.

Eww. What a Scummy conversation.

[Klingoncelt]

Can the two of you talk about stuff other than each other? I think you're both town, I think there's pretty decent odds that we're down to the last scum, and I don't really see the need for this to go another copule pages.

Okay, maybe Boring/RM was Scum, VaxKiller was definitely Scum, 1 more means 3 Scum out of 15 players.

No way.

[Klingoncelt]

well, if you're scum, I'm going to be really fucking pissed with myself for letting you get the claim out of me, and you're never going to get another in any future game, ever, unless you get me to L-1, sooo...

*deep breath*

*focuses elsewhere*

hmmm, where is FA?
creature, say something
KC, you're scum, eh?

Why are you pretending to have a Scumread on me?

[Klingoncelt]

not if we just lynch them

I mean, that is unacceptable participation at this point

There was an inauguration Friday.

Excuse me for having a life.

VOTE: drealmerz7

[Klingoncelt]

KC your lack of participation goes well beyond "inauguration friday"

Well, there was the V/LA, and then I got sick, did you include those?

[Klingoncelt]

any of you know the movie "brazil" ?

No, sorry.

[Klingoncelt]

I want to Townread DEO.

But I can't.

They're playing around a lot with their sooper secret group mechanic, but they aren't actually using it in a deathtunnel. Something's wrong there.

[Klingoncelt]

See, I really want to be like "yeah vig Klingon" but I actually caused town to lose by pushing a vig to do that in Shadowrun and I misread Klingon the only other time I played with her before that... I have an absolutely terrible track record at reading her so I'm just gonna leave that up to others to chime in on whether it's a good vig shot or no. I think her lack of participation is NAI and I believe she's been giving KTS thoughts.

Speaking of KTS... What were his thoughts after those flips?

He hasn't posted in the PT since the 14th.

[Klingoncelt]

What do you mean aren't using it in a deathtunnel?

By now Titus should be tunneling the hell out of someone, with others in the PT circle voting for that player.

I was in that Suikoden game she referenced. Scum was annihilated, I survived until Day 4. That Day went fast. They all did.

There's some major ass-dragging in this game. Lots of messages going around, but no real gamethread work.

[Klingoncelt]

Hm ok. I need to work out which of my townreads are wrong.

What do you think about Vedith voting drealmerz like all of D1? My theory is he was trying to get a lynchbait wagon to happen. Also what are your thoughts on the way Vax reacted with Gamma saying he had too many townreads? And thoughts on his non-stance of Creeps20 where he said he didn't seem like scum then as soon as FA replaced in gave a townread there?

I can't figure Vedith out. I couldn't tell if he was serious, or trolling, or just trying to look like he thought he found a Scum, or busing.

... on the way Vax reacted with Gamma saying he had too many townreads? At the time it was NAI, some players default their reads to Town, others to Scum, so I thought it was just a playstyle difference. But when he flipped I realized he was using it to build a fake Scum case on Gamma.

... non-stance of Creeps20 ... he said he didn't seem like scum then as soon as FA replaced in gave a townread there...

Going through Vax's ISO, he seemed to Townread actual Townies, and Scumread the low hanging fruit.

[Klingoncelt]

By now Titus should be tunneling the hell out of someone, with others in the PT circle voting for that player.

I was in that Suikoden game she referenced. Scum was annihilated, I survived until Day 4. That Day went fast. They all did.

There's some major ass-dragging in this game. Lots of messages going around, but no real gamethread work.

Uh, there's a zefiend wagon. Join us.

I'll do it for pressure, but I'm not totally on board with Zefiend being Scum.

VOTE: Zefiend

[Klingoncelt]

what voting?
I live in America.
We don't vote in America.

Yes we do - but some votes don't count.

[Klingoncelt]

america is a super-continent made up of:

north america (canada + the united states)

central america (mexico to panama...fuck, is it panama? it's been way too long since I did the learnings)

south america (venezuala/brazil/chile/argentina/uruguay/paraguay, who am I missing? Peru, what else?)

Was asked to fix spelling :p

Pretty sure Equador's in there. Colombia. Suriname. Et cetera.

[Klingoncelt]

By now Titus should be tunneling the hell out of someone, with others in the PT circle voting for that player.

There's some major ass-dragging in this game. Lots of messages going around, but no real gamethread work.

Uh, there's a zefiend wagon. Join us.

I'll do it for pressure, but I'm not totally on board with Zefiend being Scum.

VOTE: Zefiend

You just hammered.

Oh no, are you kidding?

[Klingoncelt]

You just hammered.

Oh no, are you kidding?

Dead serious.

Nuh-uh, there's just me, Creature, and JaeReed...

[Klingoncelt]

I've accidentally hammered people before, it makes me feel like a total jerk.


And Postie's right, for all you know I'm faking. I'm not, the reaction was genuine, but you don't really know.

[Klingoncelt]

Look, if ywall wanna shoot KC, fine.
but Zef needs rope, alright?

If someone wants to shoot me, fine, I don't expect to make it to endgame.

Just shoot DEO first, please, for they are Scum.

[Klingoncelt]

anyway

I think it is safe to say that you all should watch BRAZIL because that was an interesting coincidence that it came up twice and IT IS A GREAT MOVIE

Terry Gilliam wrote it - that's good enough for me!

[Klingoncelt]

heavy PoE suggests mshmith, zefiend, and celt being the people nominated for the last scum alive award.
Let's lynch em.

Scum trying to throw shade on me. For shame.

UNVOTE:

[Klingoncelt]

prodge

[Klingoncelt]

I'm going to stick my head out and say I don't even slightly understand what's going on with cookies and messages.

and I'm JUST talking about cookies here

no cookie "crumbing"

Which is why I prodged.

There's no point in playing a game if we aren't allowed to play. And I won't replace out because I don't want someone coming into the slot that can't play.

Titus and Math both love having their sooper secret townblocs in games - at the expense of other players.

But this time there's something different.

JaeReed and FA - remember Math doing it in that other game, where they talked about baby names?

They did a lot of talking and NO SCUMHUNTING.

Here we are, DAY 4 and Titus hasn't used her sooper secret townbloc powers to tunnel any scumz.

Why do you think that is?

Titus had the power to create a hydra. Or a neighborhood maybe.

But she didn't have the ability to create a townbloc.

DEO and Alisae are in a Hood. Alisae and Postie are in a Hood.

SO HOW ARE THEY COMMUNICATING WITH FA?

WHY HASN'T THE TOWNBLOC FOUND ANY SCUM?

BECAUSE

DEO

ARE THE SCUM.

VOTE: The DEO

[Klingoncelt]

KC why is there so many neighborhoods?
Can you answer THAT question for me?

I have no idea. You'll have to ask the Mod or one of the reviewers.

[Klingoncelt]

JaeReed and FA - remember Math doing it in that other game, where they talked about baby names?

They did a lot of talking and NO SCUMHUNTING.

Here we are, DAY 4 and Titus hasn't used her sooper secret townbloc powers to tunnel any scumz.

Titus is not MathBlade, and MathBlade is not Titus.

Yes they are in the same slot, but that doesn't mean one person's meta should apply to the other.

You know they're related, right? Titus tunnels more, and Math is more willing to bus, but they both love roleplay and outside-the-game-thread play.

[Klingoncelt]

JaeReed and FA - remember Math doing it in that other game, where they talked about baby names?

They did a lot of talking and NO SCUMHUNTING.

Here we are, DAY 4 and Titus hasn't used her sooper secret townbloc powers to tunnel any scumz.

Titus is not MathBlade, and MathBlade is not Titus.

Yes they are in the same slot, but that doesn't mean one person's meta should apply to the other.

yeah her point is math is doing shit and titus havent activated her moonlogic lazer beams poe game slover which is worrying me as well.

^^^ this. exactly.

[Klingoncelt]

Maybe i could do zefiend...

Town idiots are town.

Zefiend or KC or Creature.

~~Math

You have no case on Zefiend.

You're the Scum.

Whoever built the neighborhood chain may well have lost the game for Town.

[Klingoncelt]

Because in a game where scum are behind on kills already a person who is unkillable for whatever reason is literally the name to scum's existence. I don't see a game where scum don't try to lynch who they couldn't kill.

Look at who zefiend was pushing before N2.

VOTE: KlingonCelt

I think we need to look at Zefiend'S D2 reads for answers.

Oh look, an OMGUS vote.

[Klingoncelt]

Oh look, an OMGUS vote.

Do you think the vote is alignment indicative?

I think they're Scum for several reasons.

[Klingoncelt]

What is more likely is Drealmerz is SK and mhsmith is covering it up.

~~Math

What possible reason would a player have to cover for an SK?

Why haven't you & Titus been lynched yet?

[Klingoncelt]

The missing kill was likely killing zefiend. Til someone can explain N2 where someone besides zefiend was shot I have no interest in a zefiend lynch.

~~Math

What points to Zefiend?

He doesn't post lots isn't much of a case.

[Klingoncelt]

Oh look, an OMGUS vote.

Do you think the vote is alignment indicative?

I think they're Scum for several reasons.

That doesn't answer my question.

Yes. I think their vote is Scummy.

Check their vote history over the past 6 days (Day 4 started last Friday):
Drealmerz
Mhsmith0
Unvote
zefiend
Unvote
KlingonCelt
Unvote
mhsmith0

A lot of moving around, no?

[Klingoncelt]

What is more likely is Drealmerz is SK and mhsmith is covering it up.

~~Math

What possible reason would a player have to cover for an SK?

Why haven't you & Titus been lynched yet?

Do you think that Titus/math saying something ridiculous is scum-indicative for them? I would say it's town indicative for Titus as long as it comes w conviction; I admit to not knowing math well enough to say on that end.

Bingo!

as long as it comes w conviction

!

In this case it does not. She's just throwing shit at the wall and seeing what sticks. There's NO conviction, NO trademark deathtunnel.

[Klingoncelt]

You make it sound bad but you don't actually give the post number of when they actually switched their votes.

This has happened in the past 6 days. On Day 4. You can easily ISO them and get the post numbers yourself, but this far along in the game there's no reason to play hopscotch with one's votes.

I'm not making it sound bad, it IS bad.

[Klingoncelt]

And you know what would be a lot of moving around? This.
VOTE: JaeReed
VOTE: Postie
VOTE: The DEO
VOTE: Creature
VOTE: No Lynch
VOTE: Frozen Angel
VOTE: Mhsmith0
VOTE: Alisae
VOTE: Klingoncelt
VOTE: Zefield
VOTE: drealmersz7
VOTE: boring
VOTE: RadiantCowbells
UNVOTE:

Are you spazzing out because I'm after your Scum buddy?

[Klingoncelt]

Can we just lynch zefiend

No. Unless you're Scum, vote for DEO.

[Klingoncelt]

So thinking about the game is bad? Good to know.

You're misrepping them, because they aren't really vote hopping otherwise they would be jumping at a lot more then just 4 people.

Protip: Never argue with me when I know that I'm right.

[Klingoncelt]

Yep. My tone is obviously coming off as spazzing out.
HEY GUYS! OMGAWD I'M SPAZZING OUT
ASHRSIODYHTLSKJDYHRS
ASDUHIOSAYUDRLKJSD
SPAZZ!

Protip: Never argue with me when I know that I'm right.

[Klingoncelt]

YOU CAUGHT US!
YOU WON THE VIDEO GAME!
GOOD JOB!

Protip: Never argue with me when I know that I'm right.

[Klingoncelt]

Everyone vote DEO today, then lynch Alisae Day 5.

[Klingoncelt]

You think alisae is scum and not just bait?

Did you see those posts?

[Klingoncelt]

Can we just lynch zefiend

No. Unless you're Scum, vote for DEO.

I will not. So I am scum by your standards here.

Jae, c'mon. They're Scum.

[Klingoncelt]

You think alisae is scum and not just bait?

Did you see those posts?

Have you seen alisaes town game? I guess I'd want to see an explanation for how it's specifically scum motivated instead of just bad.

It's done in hard defense of DEO.

[Klingoncelt]

OOOOOOOOH KC.
I sure do got a surprise for you.

I never did like surprises.

What is it?

[Klingoncelt]

It's done in hard defense of DEO.

So basically alisae is scum iff DEO is?

Yeah.

[Klingoncelt]

smith and I are in a hood

jaereed confirmed us, essentially

How did JaeReed confirm you without being in the Hood?

[Klingoncelt]

Yeah but have you played with RC or in one of his games?

Dude has some crazy creativity going on in his brain, and I wouldn't put it past him to try something like this.

Also, my whole not-being-part-of-the-game for Day 1 is borderline bastard, but I also have some priveleged information as it relates to my role, etc. Still, I'm just saying that it's a possibility.

Scumread would be FA for a lot of lamist and iioa type posts that I touched on earlier, and "not-a-town-read" would be Alisae because I never really liked the Gamma slot and she hasn't done anything to improve that feeling.

It explains the "love" mechanic - if one head of the hydra dies, the other dies too, like lovers.

There's no room for a simple, unattached Love mechanic in this game, it's way too out of place.

This game is about death. Every mechanic relates to death.

[Klingoncelt]

I seriously have to take like 3 times as long with her posts to try and fucking understand what she is saying, no one else has this issue?

I had an internet friend, she was Italian, living and working in Norway, English was like her 4th language. It could take days to figure out what she was saying.

[Klingoncelt]

Okay. Thanks.

Now vote DEO, please.