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Post Post #4  (isolation #0)  » Wed Mar 16, 2016 9:12 am

im not really surprised
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Post Post #103  (isolation #1)  » Wed Mar 16, 2016 5:37 pm

In post 101, Albert B. Rampage wrote:
In post 94, xRECKONERx wrote:so ABR to be clear you think it's fine that Trump is inciting violence at his rallies or


I think that Bernie should own up to his supporters being incited to violent protest. Blocking an ambulance? Injuring a cop? Harming female Trump supporters?

Man the fuck up and take responsibility Bernie. Tell your people to stop the violence. Trump has done his part and called for peace. At his rallies after getting destroyed by the media, and that dumb guy who sucker punched the protestor, now he's always saying "be careful, don't hurt them!" lol. When you have a gathering of 30,000 12 times a week, you will have bad actors.

Mainstream media trying to pit all the anti-establishment candidates against each other so Hillary can win.

I see what's happening and it disgusts me.


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Post Post #107  (isolation #2)  » Wed Mar 16, 2016 5:50 pm

lol
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Post Post #111  (isolation #3)  » Wed Mar 16, 2016 6:51 pm

a lot of that isn't even trump's platform
he released a healthcare plan; it's not like canada's
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Post Post #114  (isolation #4)  » Wed Mar 16, 2016 6:58 pm

i could link you to his healthcare plan on his campaign website right now?
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Post Post #115  (isolation #5)  » Wed Mar 16, 2016 6:58 pm

i don't get it
i don't even like the guy but i keep closer tabs on what he stands for than you?
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Post Post #117  (isolation #6)  » Wed Mar 16, 2016 7:02 pm

you're seriously going to make me get the link

here: https://www.donaldjtrump.com/positions/ ... are-reform

i hope you're not asking me to trust a reddit post over the candidate's own website
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Post Post #119  (isolation #7)  » Wed Mar 16, 2016 7:08 pm

you just gave me a bunch of lies and peddled them as facts
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Post Post #123  (isolation #8)  » Wed Mar 16, 2016 7:16 pm

like
you say "this is donald trump's platform" and link me to someone's reddit post instead of his platform
but complain that people like me don't pay careful attention to the facts?
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Post Post #126  (isolation #9)  » Wed Mar 16, 2016 7:18 pm

In post 121, Albert B. Rampage wrote:Lies? Like journalists lying about assault charges? Like news networks sayin Trump said all mexicans are rapists? Like Trump is allied with the KKK? We're drowning in lies.


The news I read never says anything that outlandish. You're angry at a straw man.
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Post Post #127  (isolation #10)  » Wed Mar 16, 2016 7:20 pm

In post 125, Albert B. Rampage wrote:OK and whats your beef with Trump's healthcare plan? You can't answer a simple question.

I really don't think I can have an enjoyable conversation with you on that topic. You guys have fun.
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Post Post #168  (isolation #11)  » Wed Mar 16, 2016 10:18 pm

what do you dislike about the tpp
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Post Post #199  (isolation #12)  » Thu Mar 17, 2016 12:13 pm

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Post Post #201  (isolation #13)  » Thu Mar 17, 2016 12:16 pm

but you can find him saying something that's the opposite of those policies if you want to make him sound moderate
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Post Post #300  (isolation #14)  » Thu Mar 17, 2016 7:37 pm

In post 294, BadGirls wrote:If anything I feel like Hillary or Cruz would be the most likely to approve creepy genocidal or interventionist military programs. Trump's campaigning on immigration and economic strength. He doesn't want to arm rebels to install pro-US governments, or get into a prolonged conflict. Destroy ISIS, get out. I think that's what Russia has done. They came in, bombed ISIS, and withdrew their military.

first off — did they destroy isis?
second — was that their goal?
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Post Post #336  (isolation #15)  » Thu Mar 17, 2016 9:29 pm

hillary's against the tpp too :]
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Post Post #342  (isolation #16)  » Thu Mar 17, 2016 9:33 pm

In post 340, Albert B. Rampage wrote:
In post 336, Psyche wrote:hillary's against the tpp too :]


She was the main proponent for it when it was a secret. When it was leaked, and after public outcry, she flipped her position. She will just sign the TPP in a new form when shes elected.

she didn't know the deal's details
it's silly to oppose a trade deal before you even know what the deal is about!
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Post Post #344  (isolation #17)  » Thu Mar 17, 2016 9:34 pm

In post 341, Albert B. Rampage wrote:She will change its name add some ammendments and then sign it in secret. This is what these people do. They are beholden to donors.


that's hilarious
how in the world could something as sprawling as the tpp be implemented in secret?
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Post Post #346  (isolation #18)  » Thu Mar 17, 2016 9:35 pm

In post 343, Albert B. Rampage wrote:She was pushing FOR it.

the details of the tpp weren't settled until several years after she was out of office
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Post Post #348  (isolation #19)  » Thu Mar 17, 2016 9:38 pm

nothing's a big deal soon enough everything and everyone we love will all be gone and forgotten
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Post Post #357  (isolation #20)  » Thu Mar 17, 2016 9:43 pm

the guy who thought donald trump is for canada-style universal healthcare is asking if i know anything
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Post Post #380  (isolation #21)  » Thu Mar 17, 2016 10:01 pm

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Post Post #383  (isolation #22)  » Thu Mar 17, 2016 10:03 pm

donald trump is a bigger threat to the global economy than terrorism
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Post Post #392  (isolation #23)  » Thu Mar 17, 2016 10:12 pm

In post 384, Albert B. Rampage wrote:
In post 380, Psyche wrote:http://www.bbc.com/news/business-35828747

hheehehehe


The writer is close friends with Hillary. This is just more proof of media bias and corruption in DC.

aw poor abr doesn't believe in journalistic integrity
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Post Post #394  (isolation #24)  » Thu Mar 17, 2016 10:14 pm

i guess a fact's only a fact if it makes donald trump look reasonable
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Post Post #398  (isolation #25)  » Thu Mar 17, 2016 10:17 pm

In post 396, Albert B. Rampage wrote:
In post 389, Rob13 wrote:
In post 384, Albert B. Rampage wrote:
In post 380, Psyche wrote:http://www.bbc.com/news/business-35828747

hheehehehe


The writer is close friends with Hillary. This is just more proof of media bias and corruption in DC.


Except they're only reporting a report by The Economist Group, publisher of The Economist, and it displays literally zero of the writer's own opinions. But yes, definitely corruption.

The Economist is generally considered fairly non-partisan. They have a good share of "leftish" articles and a good share of "rightish" articles. This is a good example of that, since it has both types of ideas in a single article: http://www.economist.com/node/21564556



HAHAHA

Economist states "Trump is a top 10 threat" but neglected to mention that Hillary's "loyal adoring pal" owns it -wikileaks

https://mobile.twitter.com/wikileaks/st ... 6416783360


do you apply this same standard to articles written by donald trump supporters
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Post Post #403  (isolation #26)  » Thu Mar 17, 2016 10:20 pm

In post 399, Albert B. Rampage wrote:Change things? What things?

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Post Post #407  (isolation #27)  » Thu Mar 17, 2016 10:25 pm

aren't you?
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Post Post #408  (isolation #28)  » Thu Mar 17, 2016 10:26 pm

In post 405, Rob13 wrote:
In post 398, Psyche wrote:
In post 396, Albert B. Rampage wrote:
In post 389, Rob13 wrote:
In post 384, Albert B. Rampage wrote:
In post 380, Psyche wrote:http://www.bbc.com/news/business-35828747

hheehehehe


The writer is close friends with Hillary. This is just more proof of media bias and corruption in DC.


Except they're only reporting a report by The Economist Group, publisher of The Economist, and it displays literally zero of the writer's own opinions. But yes, definitely corruption.

The Economist is generally considered fairly non-partisan. They have a good share of "leftish" articles and a good share of "rightish" articles. This is a good example of that, since it has both types of ideas in a single article: http://www.economist.com/node/21564556



HAHAHA

Economist states "Trump is a top 10 threat" but neglected to mention that Hillary's "loyal adoring pal" owns it -wikileaks

https://mobile.twitter.com/wikileaks/st ... 6416783360


do you apply this same standard to articles written by donald trump supporters


Nah, I'll give ABR credit for this. I highly doubt this influenced the article at all, but they should be disclosing this.


question stands!
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Post Post #415  (isolation #29)  » Thu Mar 17, 2016 10:35 pm

In post 412, KuroiXHF wrote:Of course it is. If I work for a dollar, I deserve that dollar. If I start with a lemonade stand and it grows into a multi-million dollar success, I deserve to benefit from it. Success shouldn't be punished. If money is taken from me so I can help someone out, it should be because I choose to do it. That's the difference between capitalism and socialism. Capitalism is a system based on consent. Socialism, coercion.


You're an idiot.
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Post Post #445  (isolation #30)  » Thu Mar 17, 2016 11:14 pm

Whether you're the one whose lemonade stand became a multi-million dollar success or you're the one who's born into poverty and dies of a curable disease in the same year is all luck. Me and my little brother were born two years apart, in the same circumstances, except I turned out to be real smart and he turned out to have cerebral palsy. If I turn out to be a millionaire and he doesn't, that won't be a matter of me working harder than him, that won't be a matter of me playing my cards right - even if I do all of those things. It'll be because I was dealt a great hand he was dealt a pair of twos. If just one cent of that million is taken from me - against my will! - and used to support him when he needs it most, I'm still not the person in this story who's been cheated. It's him. And frankly for me to complain that some of my money was taken from me to help other people in greater need wouldn't just be incredibly greedy and foolish - it'd be short-sighted. Economic success just isn't possible in failed states where citizens are allowed to live and die in poverty and without education for fear of 'punishing' someone else's lucky break, where no investment is in made in a country's infrastructure, where financial stumbles invariably spell economic ruin for whole households. Being a millionaire is pointless if you live in a world filled with people too hungry, dumb, sick, and unhappy to produce things you'd pay money for. A lot of work has gone into making the united states a place where lemonade stands can turn people into millionaires - is it really so hard to imagine that the millionaires whose success is contingent on their country might be thought to owe something to their country? You look at the issue of coercion from the perspective of someone who's made it big, but what about the perspective of someone who hasn't? What about the perspective of someone born in a position that destines them to one of the shittiest lives imaginable? What about wage slavery? What about the cycle of poverty?

I have a real question for you. Why care so much if someone with millions of dollars is allowed to keep all of it, but look the other way when someone with nothing is forced go hungry, or endure a curable disease, or live with no real chance for self-improvement? In a world dominated by scarcity, why ought a government prioritize the former over the latter?
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Post Post #447  (isolation #31)  » Thu Mar 17, 2016 11:15 pm

In post 435, drmyshottyizsik wrote:
In post 433, Rob13 wrote:If you don't mind me asking, what state are you in drmy? If you PM me a state and ballpark income figure, I can tell you what a Silver Plan should cost and what subsidies you're eligible for, if any.

This is insulting

its ok to ask for help if u need it drmy
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Post Post #449  (isolation #32)  » Thu Mar 17, 2016 11:16 pm

In post 423, KuroiXHF wrote:Amazing logic! Absolutely brilliant! I change my mind. You concede, sir, due to your astounding logic!


I wasn't using logic. I was calling you an idiot. Because you are. There's nothing wrong with that. I love and respect quite a few idiots.
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Post Post #479  (isolation #33)  » Fri Mar 18, 2016 2:11 pm

ok guys im back how did my mastiny post pan out
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Post Post #483  (isolation #34)  » Fri Mar 18, 2016 2:30 pm

hillary promises to improve on the ACA's achievements
trump will just take us back to where we were with only piecemeal improvements
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Post Post #486  (isolation #35)  » Fri Mar 18, 2016 2:38 pm

let's push it back to 2024
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Post Post #498  (isolation #36)  » Fri Mar 18, 2016 3:49 pm

i won
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Post Post #580  (isolation #37)  » Sat Mar 19, 2016 2:30 pm

i won an ipad mini in a high school econ contest aren't i great
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Post Post #606  (isolation #38)  » Sat Mar 19, 2016 6:10 pm

is that a virus rob did you give me a virus
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Post Post #607  (isolation #39)  » Sat Mar 19, 2016 6:12 pm

do not think for a second that this wrong will go unrighted rob i know how to code in r
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Post Post #608  (isolation #40)  » Sat Mar 19, 2016 6:24 pm

i just got a pop-up advertising dish detergent rob are you using computer viruses to peddle dish detergent to me i swear if you are i will go to your funeral when it eventually happens and drink that bottle of dish detergent you sold me at your funeral can you imagine the commotion that would cause it might give your oldest grieving loved one a heart attack and it would happen specifically and unequivocally because you gave me a computer virus in order to peddle dish detergent
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Post Post #615  (isolation #41)  » Sat Mar 19, 2016 10:25 pm

i will take that as an admission of guilt ima eff u up so bad ur pee hole will be rotated sideways everything else about your anatomy will remain as if we'd never met
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Post Post #654  (isolation #42)  » Sun Mar 20, 2016 3:15 pm

not if i have anything to say about it
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Post Post #655  (isolation #43)  » Sun Mar 20, 2016 3:15 pm

oh wait i don't i'm not doing politics FOR 3 MONTHS
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Post Post #658  (isolation #44)  » Sun Mar 20, 2016 3:19 pm

i used to have straightforward answers to all of those questions and more
but then the fire nation attacked
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Post Post #659  (isolation #45)  » Sun Mar 20, 2016 3:25 pm

in the midst of the war
i lost all track of time
had endless mindless sex with people of all genders using all manners of contraception including the unicorn horn method
for a while i was paid to be a human clown car but i was also paid to do other things
my life became indistinguishable from my most nightmarish fantasies
now i just can't appropriately answer basic questions like yours without gesturing feverishly at outdated memes
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Post Post #661  (isolation #46)  » Sun Mar 20, 2016 3:29 pm

the sex wouldn't have been consensual if i'd only recently became 17
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Post Post #663  (isolation #47)  » Sun Mar 20, 2016 3:32 pm

ill procreate if it means i win the debate
i'll even do a stint in the military
i could do both at the same time if necessary im very resourceful
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Post Post #669  (isolation #48)  » Sun Mar 20, 2016 3:51 pm

its an internet forum majiffy chill
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Post Post #726  (isolation #49)  » Sun Mar 20, 2016 10:13 pm

if someone covers your nose and your mouth at the same time, how will you breathe?
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Post Post #773  (isolation #50)  » Mon Mar 21, 2016 1:59 pm

In post 749, drmyshottyizsik wrote:Hillary values a 30 minute speech at a quarter of a million dollars. That's not narcissistic? Well, it may just be collusion but still.

its what they offered her
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Post Post #776  (isolation #51)  » Mon Mar 21, 2016 2:32 pm

any one else wanna make that point? there's still time!
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Post Post #793  (isolation #52)  » Mon Mar 21, 2016 4:35 pm

ever heard of the marshall plan shotty
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Post Post #818  (isolation #53)  » Mon Mar 21, 2016 9:00 pm

In post 808, Rob13 wrote:This thread wrapped up officially when drmy asked why slavery had to be a race thing.

im not sure if this happened but it's a hilarious post anyway
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Post Post #822  (isolation #54)  » Tue Mar 22, 2016 11:01 am

In post 820, OhGodMyLife wrote:What really frightens me about Donald Trump is how many Bernie supporters I know who keep saying he's their second choice.

polls so far suggest that it's not a very big phenomenon
voters fleeing trump will counteract it anyway
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Post Post #824  (isolation #55)  » Tue Mar 22, 2016 11:16 am

you seem to making a lot of claims with a lot of confidence
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Post Post #825  (isolation #56)  » Tue Mar 22, 2016 11:23 am

http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2016 ... ry-clinton

the guardian's call-out combined with the various polls this article reports suggests that about 8% of sanders supporters might prefer trump over hillary

nationally, realclear's polling averages show that hillary polls ahead of trump by about 49-39.2
in every state that head to head polling has occurred, hillary either ties or is ahead of donald trump
clinton is tied with him in arizona and utah (ahead by just 2 points and so in the margin of error) but winning decisively in florida, nyc, ohio, illinois, pennsylvania, michigan, new hampshire,
poor donald can't even hold the states romney won in 2012

all this makes me think that many more of "the 43% of the electorate who consider themselves independents" are swinging toward hillary than toward trump
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Post Post #829  (isolation #57)  » Tue Mar 22, 2016 11:29 am

i'd rather it be someone else
but it's just hillary and bernie running
and i like hillary more
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Post Post #830  (isolation #58)  » Tue Mar 22, 2016 11:32 am

In post 827, OhGodMyLife wrote:"The republicans haven't even started on Sanders!" you'll cry. To which I'll respond, "The Donald hasn't even scratched the surface on Hillary." You're a True Believer, obviously, so you'll never understand, but The Masses out there are going to be very receptive to Trump's message about how Clinton is bought and paid for. Trump himself previously bought her, and they've got the jocular wedding photo op to prove it.

you say that donald hasn't even scratched the surface on hillary and then bring up something that's already been repeated on national television dozens of times
if hillary gets indicted, i'll be worried about her
but to be frank i really do think all republicans can do against her is dredge up old news
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Post Post #939  (isolation #59)  » Thu Mar 24, 2016 6:54 pm

he can also browse the internet using a cash register
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Post Post #941  (isolation #60)  » Thu Mar 24, 2016 7:14 pm

even us millenials don't respect the writing section
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Post Post #952  (isolation #61)  » Thu Mar 24, 2016 8:19 pm

dont lump me up with that species of elitism
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Post Post #958  (isolation #62)  » Thu Mar 24, 2016 9:24 pm

just let him have his story...
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Post Post #968  (isolation #63)  » Fri Mar 25, 2016 9:04 am

thread is getting offtopic
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Post Post #975  (isolation #64)  » Fri Mar 25, 2016 11:23 am

is shotty even an american citizen??
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Post Post #987  (isolation #65)  » Fri Mar 25, 2016 5:41 pm

is it 12
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Post Post #1024  (isolation #66)  » Sat Mar 26, 2016 6:13 pm

that's just a problem with the tests!
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Post Post #1051  (isolation #67)  » Sat Mar 26, 2016 11:28 pm

sry man the mainstream media has a vicegrip on my soul
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Post Post #1081  (isolation #68)  » Sun Mar 27, 2016 12:53 pm

i optimized for every other part of the test but i decided the essay section was stupid and gave it no other thought
memorized the entire grammar bible though
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Post Post #1082  (isolation #69)  » Sun Mar 27, 2016 12:53 pm

now i know when to use whom!
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Post Post #1110  (isolation #70)  » Mon Mar 28, 2016 2:27 pm

sure sure
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Post Post #1118  (isolation #71)  » Mon Mar 28, 2016 10:51 pm

let's build a bridge over the grand canyon
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Post Post #1121  (isolation #72)  » Mon Mar 28, 2016 11:06 pm

privatize the atmosphere
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Post Post #1124  (isolation #73)  » Tue Mar 29, 2016 12:07 am

In post 1122, Albert B. Rampage wrote:
In post 1115, Rob13 wrote:- Paying people to host KKK rallies


Oh like people getting paid to protest at Trump rallies?

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so how do you feel now about the whole "money as political speech" thing
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Post Post #1191  (isolation #74)  » Wed Mar 30, 2016 1:15 pm

ever heard of the bias blind spot
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Post Post #1195  (isolation #75)  » Wed Mar 30, 2016 1:38 pm

drmyshottyizsik wrote:
In post 1192, AlwaysInnocent wrote:There is a general consensus among historians (so not highly biased conservative figures such as Jonah Goldberg) that fascism is a far-right ideology, with good reason. I'll leave it at this, because I do not wish to encourage historical revisionism any further.

Imagine that the left blames the right. Also it is rich hearing someone on the left saying they don't want historical revisionism. It's leftist scholars that have re written history. Destroying statues, rewriting history books, and re naming roads. This is why people idolize Lincoln (who btw owned slaves during the civil war) and can't understand andrew Jackson. Also as far are your general consensus is concerned go ask newton and or plato hiw that goes.
there's just too much to unpack in this post
i sort of feel bad for you
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Post Post #1205  (isolation #76)  » Wed Mar 30, 2016 3:01 pm

In post 1203, Albert B. Rampage wrote:A lot of people are pissed about Michelle Fields lying about being thrown to the ground at a Trump event. That's the problem nowadays, people -even reporters- want to cry that they're a victim so they can get attention. Real people do get hurt, but the media cares about the message they get accross, not the truth. They want to be the story instead of telling it. It's a disgrace.

trump and his manager said that they hadn't even touched her
you don't think they were lying, despite the newly released video and found probable cause for police charge?
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Post Post #1208  (isolation #77)  » Wed Mar 30, 2016 3:05 pm

they didn't say "i don't remember if i touched her"; they said "i didnt touch her"
do you see a difference between the two like i and most people do
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Post Post #1209  (isolation #78)  » Wed Mar 30, 2016 3:07 pm

because trump's campaign manager could only say one of those things in testimony and not get charged with perjury
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Post Post #1210  (isolation #79)  » Wed Mar 30, 2016 3:10 pm

seems rather shitty, too, to call someone a liar about something you're apparently totally uncertain about?
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Post Post #1214  (isolation #80)  » Wed Mar 30, 2016 3:21 pm

i think the lengths you'll go to in order to defend deception and violence is just sad
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Post Post #1215  (isolation #81)  » Wed Mar 30, 2016 3:30 pm




http://www.cnn.com/2016/03/11/politics/ ... wandowski/
Ben Terris, a reporter at The Washington Post, said he witnessed the incident and Lewandowski "grabbed her arm and yanked her out of the way," bruising her and causing her to stumble.

so, uh, i have witnesses, a video, a bruise, a police investigation that's found probable cause to charge for a crime, and proof that the person charged is a liar
what do you have?
is it another reddit link?
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Post Post #1219  (isolation #82)  » Wed Mar 30, 2016 3:47 pm

goodness you're delusional
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Post Post #1220  (isolation #83)  » Wed Mar 30, 2016 3:48 pm

wow what a joke
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Post Post #1222  (isolation #84)  » Wed Mar 30, 2016 3:50 pm

ok have your fairy tale world
we'll see what everyone else thinks in november i guess
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Post Post #1224  (isolation #85)  » Wed Mar 30, 2016 3:55 pm

sure sure everyone who disagrees with you is corrupt great job
no one can't be friends with someone and also speak honestly about them; integrity doesn't exist after all
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Post Post #1227  (isolation #86)  » Wed Mar 30, 2016 3:58 pm

guess michelle bruised herself she must be crazy or maybe hillary offered her millions of dollars to do it
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Post Post #1230  (isolation #87)  » Wed Mar 30, 2016 4:04 pm

drmy security apparently didn't engage with michelle at all and it's not at all evident in the video so maybe we should go with the more likely story that she bruised herself so that she could lose her job and get targeted by america's biggest bully and his legion of violent followers or is part of a vast conspiracy involving her, the washington post, florida law enforcement and hillary rodham clinton
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Post Post #1231  (isolation #88)  » Wed Mar 30, 2016 4:07 pm

i bet she starts a car wash tomorrow so she can launder dark money from the clinton foundation
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Post Post #1288  (isolation #89)  » Wed Mar 30, 2016 5:23 pm

In post 1283, Albert B. Rampage wrote:Oh. Well they should know that protestors punching innocent people unprovoked are a thing. Idk why they keep bringing up violence as if it only goes one way. It goes both. People on both sides are pissed.

trump is the only candidate who eggs the violence on
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Post Post #1301  (isolation #90)  » Wed Mar 30, 2016 7:03 pm

In post 1291, drmyshottyizsik wrote:
In post 1290, Killthestory wrote:
In post 1289, drmyshottyizsik wrote:
In post 1288, Psyche wrote:
In post 1283, Albert B. Rampage wrote:Oh. Well they should know that protestors punching innocent people unprovoked are a thing. Idk why they keep bringing up violence as if it only goes one way. It goes both. People on both sides are pissed.

trump is the only candidate who eggs the violence on
believe it or not there comes a point where punching someone is justified

the fuck?

If you.run around in a clan out fit for example, I believe a 78 year old man is plenty justified in punching them.

our champion of free speech, everybody
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Post Post #1319  (isolation #91)  » Thu Mar 31, 2016 3:19 pm

mmmm
i guess that is rather worse than birtherism
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Post Post #1352  (isolation #92)  » Sun Apr 03, 2016 8:05 pm

the jews deserve our respect
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Post Post #1357  (isolation #93)  » Sun Apr 03, 2016 9:12 pm

the palestinians deserve our respect
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Post Post #1363  (isolation #94)  » Mon Apr 04, 2016 12:40 am

no one's voting libertarian
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Post Post #1372  (isolation #95)  » Mon Apr 04, 2016 2:00 pm

In post 1369, drmyshottyizsik wrote:
In post 1368, Kublai Khan wrote:
In post 1365, zoraster wrote:what about the weed smoking libertarians?

They're holding in their opinions until Trump actually gives the same answer 5 times in a row.

You know this may be fair. I've been becoming less and less attached to Trump over the last two weeks, but I just can't vote for any of the other 3. Where's My Liberty!?

you should run as an independent
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Post Post #1374  (isolation #96)  » Mon Apr 04, 2016 6:37 pm

if someone as bad at his job as obama can become president despite being from kenya you can become president desite being 15
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Post Post #1376  (isolation #97)  » Mon Apr 04, 2016 7:18 pm

despite being 12
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Post Post #1378  (isolation #98)  » Mon Apr 04, 2016 7:22 pm

DESPITE BEING 8
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Post Post #1401  (isolation #99)  » Wed Apr 06, 2016 6:27 pm

i blame common core
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Post Post #1440  (isolation #100)  » Wed Apr 13, 2016 10:29 am

shotty is partial to bing
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Post Post #1452  (isolation #101)  » Wed Apr 13, 2016 4:14 pm

ftr
i don't think donald trump is a racist
i think he's a racial panderer
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Post Post #1461  (isolation #102)  » Thu Apr 14, 2016 1:53 pm

In post 1458, AlwaysInnocent wrote:
In post 1452, Psyche wrote:ftr
i don't think donald trump is a racist
i think he's a racial panderer
You mean that he is not in a racist in the sense that he does not really believe that one "race" or ethnicity is better or worse than the other? I do not think his subjective beliefs matter that much. The consequences of his speech and actions are more important.

i actually disagree with my old position and now affirm that donald trump is an actual racist
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Post Post #1467  (isolation #103)  » Thu Apr 21, 2016 2:17 pm

In post 1466, drmyshottyizsik wrote:a stv system
should the article here be "a" or "an"
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Post Post #1482  (isolation #104)  » Thu Apr 21, 2016 11:58 pm

the media could chew her up and spit her out in a ditch if it needed to
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Post Post #1486  (isolation #105)  » Fri Apr 22, 2016 12:16 pm

missing the third possibility that he directly converts the acronym and reads it as "single transferable vote"
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Post Post #1488  (isolation #106)  » Fri Apr 22, 2016 1:09 pm

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Post Post #1504  (isolation #107)  » Wed Apr 27, 2016 10:38 am

we'll see!
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Post Post #1509  (isolation #108)  » Sun May 01, 2016 9:24 am

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Post Post #1512  (isolation #109)  » Sun May 01, 2016 9:36 am

drumpf drumpf drumpf drumpf
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Post Post #1520  (isolation #110)  » Wed May 04, 2016 2:02 pm

heeheheheheheheehehehhahahahaah
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Post Post #1522  (isolation #111)  » Wed May 04, 2016 2:48 pm

don't call it cannibalize they are nothing like you they are beneath you to consume them is as if to consume livestock
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Post Post #1658  (isolation #112)  » Thu May 05, 2016 8:33 pm

In post 1654, drmyshottyizsik wrote:We are speaking of different bills. I'm talking about the one stating that people can use what ever bathroom they want. This is a pointless law. We never had an issue with this until someone made it one. If you want to use bathroom X go for it. If you do something that is illegal, well guess what we already have laws for sexual crimes. Same thing with the caterer, if you don't want to serve them then don't, it's a free market and I don't think any one who is X would want to support someone's or a business that is anti X. There is no need to legislate this when there hasn't really been much of an issue either way. It is media gold though so it gets made out to be a way larger deal than it is


minorities used to be unable to find accommodations for themselves because businesses throughout entire regions would refuse to serve them
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Post Post #1694  (isolation #113)  » Thu May 05, 2016 9:45 pm

In post 1681, drmyshottyizsik wrote:lol most slaves then were not black. Again this says nothing of race at all. The context and meaning of those are to love god and put little stock in man, because no matter what happens here, it is mathematically nothing.compared to you eternal salvation in the presence of god.

ok, but there were lots of christians who justified mistreating blacks with the bible just like people now justify mistreating gays
if it's what they believe religiously then what does it matter if you disagree with their reasoning for believing it?
you don't think that a gay person could force a conservative christian to participate in their wedding by arguing with the way the christian is interpreting the bible after all
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Post Post #1720  (isolation #114)  » Thu May 05, 2016 10:30 pm

sry i lost you guys what is it that zoraster did?
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Post Post #1753  (isolation #115)  » Sat May 07, 2016 9:37 pm

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Post Post #1763  (isolation #116)  » Sun May 08, 2016 5:11 pm

trump won't do as much pivoting as you think
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Post Post #1765  (isolation #117)  » Sun May 08, 2016 5:22 pm

he's already said that taxes on the rich should go up
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Post Post #1772  (isolation #118)  » Sun May 08, 2016 7:29 pm

that doesnt make any sense
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Post Post #1777  (isolation #119)  » Sun May 08, 2016 8:19 pm

shotty is an anarchist u heard it here first
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Post Post #1790  (isolation #120)  » Mon May 09, 2016 6:32 am

ehehehehehe
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Post Post #1809  (isolation #121)  » Mon May 09, 2016 3:24 pm

oh so it's ReVeRsE rAcIsM
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Post Post #1825  (isolation #122)  » Mon May 09, 2016 4:37 pm

donald trump is not worse than a participant in the holocaust can we please calm the hell down
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Post Post #1896  (isolation #123)  » Wed May 11, 2016 11:22 am

In post 1892, Dwlee99 wrote:Ehh not really? Tbf the wage gap isnt as ridiculous as it seems. I think (correct me if Im wrong) correcting for differences in hours worked and professions the wage gap lowers (I believe it is around 7 cents). When you think about it that adds up. But still there are still prejudices against women. (Yknow like saying.women should be punished for abortions)


should you even correct for professions when woman participation in a profession strongly impacts how much people value that profession overall?
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Post Post #1897  (isolation #124)  » Wed May 11, 2016 11:23 am

In post 1893, drmyshottyizsik wrote:
In post 1892, Dwlee99 wrote:Ehh not really? Tbf the wage gap isnt as ridiculous as it seems. I think (correct me if Im wrong) correcting for differences in hours worked and professions the wage gap lowers (I believe it is around 7 cents). When you think about it that adds up. But still there are still prejudices against women. (Yknow like saying.women should be punished for abortions)

first off that isn't in effect so that's not a legitimate point. for instance though. when my wife an I both worked for Wendy's and had our first kid, she got paid time off for 3 months and I got the "privilege" of being able to use my one week vacation with out notice


which presidential candidate do you think is most likely to support extended paid family leave for men
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Post Post #1903  (isolation #125)  » Wed May 11, 2016 11:47 am

even if it is that still doesn't change the fact that overall women are compensated less for their work than men
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Post Post #1928  (isolation #126)  » Wed May 11, 2016 4:57 pm

your strategy sounds like the strategy of someone who doesn't really care about sexism
maybe a subsidy for those with better representation; an enforced quota doesn't make enough sense if the supply of women employees isn't there
sociopolitical trends are already doing a lot of work and will do more in the future i'm sure
your strategy at least requires forcing companies to make public things like their proportion of women employees and the amount those are compensated compared to men public so that people are empowered to boycott or otherwise protest the worst-offending businesses
another strategy might be to make it easier for women to succeed in problem industries
if the government or companies forced by government provides more for childcare, for example, it'll be easier for women to have careers
extending paid family leave and similarly offering it to men who can help handle the load of home duties will make it easier for women to pursue careers
you can also incentivize women to go into certain industries by offering them conditional scholarships/grants, a mentorship program, and so forth
there's also of course the media; PSAs and altered representation of women can also shift tides
im sure there are more options than that
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Post Post #1929  (isolation #127)  » Wed May 11, 2016 5:00 pm

it's really not that hard for the government to do something without enforcing quotas
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Post Post #1934  (isolation #128)  » Wed May 11, 2016 5:36 pm

so ur against seatbelt laws
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Post Post #1980  (isolation #129)  » Thu May 12, 2016 1:35 am

sure, don't be guilty
but if you don't let moral considerations constrain your pursuit of your own self-interest you're either a sociopath or a sociopath in training
the fact that from the beginning you've had it better than most people should trouble you, and should trouble most people in the first world
it's only by looking beyond ourselves and our interests that certain kinds of progress are made possible
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Post Post #2011  (isolation #130)  » Thu May 12, 2016 3:40 pm

thats not what the stats say
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Post Post #2016  (isolation #131)  » Thu May 12, 2016 4:38 pm

there's no such thing as objectivity or something
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Post Post #2019  (isolation #132)  » Thu May 12, 2016 4:49 pm

yah?
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Post Post #2024  (isolation #133)  » Thu May 12, 2016 5:03 pm

pfft
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Post Post #2029  (isolation #134)  » Thu May 12, 2016 5:17 pm

i mean
i've been to some really rural, high poverty areas
but even those have things like running water, public schools, hospitals...
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Post Post #2034  (isolation #135)  » Thu May 12, 2016 5:23 pm

BROseidon wrote:
In post 2030, Zulfy wrote:3rd world countries have those also


I think most people in this thread don't understand what a lot of "3rd world country's" have.
gosh bro you're such a snot
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Post Post #2040  (isolation #136)  » Thu May 12, 2016 5:38 pm

Mississippi's dead-last #50 GSP/capita is $26,000 per person per year. That would put it in the top quarter of all nations by purchasing-power adjusted GDP/capita.
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Post Post #2041  (isolation #137)  » Thu May 12, 2016 5:42 pm

1. Iceland - .968
2. Norway - .968
3. Canada - .967
4. Australia - .965
5. Ireland - .962
Connecticut - .962
Massachusetts - .961
New Jersey - .961
District of Columbia - .960
Maryland - .960
Hawaii - .959
New York - .959
6. Netherlands - .958
7. Sweden - .958
New Hampshire - .958
Minnesota - .958
Rhode Island - .958
California - .958
Colorado - .958
Virginia - .957
Illinois - .957
8. Japan - .956
9. Luxembourg - .956
10. Switzerland - .955
11. France - .955
Vermont - .955
Washington - .955
Alaska - .955
12. Finland - .954
Delaware - .953
13. Denmark - .952
Wisconsin - .952
14. Austria - .951
Michigan - .951
15. United States - .950
Iowa - .950
Pennsylvania - .950
16. Spain - .949
17. Belgium - .948
18. Greece - .947
Nebraska - .946
19. Italy - .945
20. New Zealand - .944
21. United Kingdom - .942
22. Hong Kong - .942
Kansas - .941
23. Germany - .940
Arizona - .939
North Dakota - .936
Oregon - .935
Maine - .932
Utah - .932
Ohio - .932
24. Israel - .930
Georgia - .928
Indiana - .928
25. South Korea - .927
North Carolina - .925
26. Slovenia - .923
27. Brunei - .919
28. Singapore - .918
Texas - .914
29. Kuwait - .912
30. Cyprus - .912
Missouri - .912
Nevada - .911
31. United Arab Emirates - .903
32. Bahrain - .902
South Dakota - .902
33. Portugal - .900
34. Qatar - .899
Florida - .898
35. Czech Republic - .897
Wyoming - .897
New Mexico - .895
36. Malta - .894
Idaho - .890
37. Barbados - .889
Montana - .885
38. Hungary - .877
39. Poland - .875
40. Chile - .874
41. Slovakia - .872
42. Estonia - .871
South Carolina - .871
43. Lithuania - .869
44. Latvia - .863
45. Croatia - .862
46. Argentina - .860
47. Uruguay - .859
48. Cuba - .855
49. Bahamas - .854
50. Costa Rica - .847
51. Mexico - .842
52. Libya - .840
53. Oman - .839
54. Seychelles - .836
55. Saudi Arabia - .835
56. Bulgaria - .834
57. Trinidad and Tobago - .833
58. Panama - .832
59. Antigua and Barbuda - .830
60. Saint Kitts and Nevis - .830
61. Venezuela - .826
62. Romania - .825
63. Malaysia - .823
64. Montenegro - .822
65. Serbia - .821
66. Saint Lucia - .821
Kentucky - .820
67. Belarus - .817
Tennessee - .816
Oklahoma - .815
Alabama - .809
68. Macedonia - .808
69. Albania - .807
70. Brazil - .807
71. Kazakhstan - .807
72. Ecuador - .807
73. Russia - .806
Arkansas - .803
74. Mauritius - .802
75. Bosnia and Herzegovina - .802
Louisiana - .801
West Virginia - .800
Mississippi - .799
76. Turkey - .798

if you look at HDI, there are 8 states in the same range of middle-income countries like Albania, Macedonia, Brazil, and Russia. But even that is hardly third-world and certainly not most of the country...
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Post Post #2046  (isolation #138)  » Fri May 13, 2016 6:44 am

not feeling guilt about being a selfish egotist doesn't actually make being a selfish egotist more okay
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Post Post #2047  (isolation #139)  » Fri May 13, 2016 6:47 am

and since when is caring about the welfare of the less fortunate "throwing away your potential"
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Post Post #2062  (isolation #140)  » Fri May 13, 2016 8:57 am

yeah
its a pretty huge advantage
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Post Post #2069  (isolation #141)  » Fri May 13, 2016 9:12 am

In post 2064, drmyshottyizsik wrote:
In post 2062, Psyche wrote:yeah

So regardless, you will sit in judgement of me because of what family I was born into, well fuck I'm sorry. Let me die and be born a poor black child, would that satisfy you?

you have this weird obsession with guilt that just doesn't any sense here
no one is saying it's wrong that you had it so good
i just object to your whole "i'm not going to let moral considerations constrain my pursuit of my own self-interest" shtick
it's sociopathic
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Post Post #2083  (isolation #142)  » Fri May 13, 2016 10:21 am

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Post Post #2087  (isolation #143)  » Fri May 13, 2016 10:50 am

In post 2048, drmyshottyizsik wrote:
In post 2047, Psyche wrote:and sense when is caring about the welfare of the less fortunate "throwing away your potential"

It's not but you just called me a selfish egotist because I don't feel guilty that my family wasn't black. You are fucking idiot who has nothing better to do and no greater calling than to tell others they need feel bad for what they have achieved. How about you fuck off.

HOW MANY TIMES DO WE HAVE TO SAY THAT NO ONE GIVES A DAMN ABOUT YOUR GUILT?
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Post Post #2090  (isolation #144)  » Fri May 13, 2016 10:55 am

what is this damned guilt complex that conservatives have
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Post Post #2091  (isolation #145)  » Fri May 13, 2016 10:57 am

In post 2088, drmyshottyizsik wrote:
In post 2087, Psyche wrote:
In post 2048, drmyshottyizsik wrote:
In post 2047, Psyche wrote:and sense when is caring about the welfare of the less fortunate "throwing away your potential"

It's not but you just called me a selfish egotist because I don't feel guilty that my family wasn't black. You are fucking idiot who has nothing better to do and no greater calling than to tell others they need feel bad for what they have achieved. How about you fuck off.

HOW MANY TIMES DO WE HAVE TO SAY THAT NO ONE GIVES A DAMN ABOUT YOUR GUILT?

Ummm this was 50 posts ago, we are way beyond that. Also you are telling me to feel bad for people because of how better off I am, but you "don't give a damn about me guilt". You can't tell someone that the way they live is appalling and then say you don't want them to feel guilty.


NO ONE IS SAYING YOU SHOULD FEEL BAD BECAUSE YOU HAD A NICE LIFE
YOU SHOULD FEEL BAD BECAUSE YOU DON'T GIVE A SHIT ABOUT OTHER PEOPLE
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Post Post #2093  (isolation #146)  » Fri May 13, 2016 10:59 am

caring about the welfare of other people
caring about the welfare of other people
caring about the welfare of other people
caring about the welfare of other people
caring about the welfare of other people
caring about the welfare of other people

IS DIFFERENT FROM

not being successful
not being successful
not being successful
not being successful
not being successful
not being successful

and that's exactly what i was talking about earlier
somehow you can't help but equate the two
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Post Post #2097  (isolation #147)  » Fri May 13, 2016 11:02 am

In post 2092, drmyshottyizsik wrote:
In post 2089, Dwlee99 wrote:
In post 2078, drmyshottyizsik wrote:
In post 2076, Dwlee99 wrote:
In post 2074, drmyshottyizsik wrote:
In post 2072, Dwlee99 wrote:it isn't guilt, it is feeling compassion and a want to help the less fortunate.

and I do, it is why I go on mission trips and volunteer at the safe soup kitchens that used to feed me, but again it is not our governments place to mandate these things.

Why not?

Are you really going to make an argument for mandating charity and community service?
Uhm yes? You believe social.welfare services are bad?

I believe forcing people to do charity and community service defeats the point. Also how is a single mother of 4 going to find the time to do her mandated service? And what happens to her if she doesn't do it? You can't have that large of a government. We have free will, it becomes a scary world when the government controll your entire scheduel.


dwlee is talking about welfare programs not mandated community service and the government controlling people's entire schedule
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Post Post #2098  (isolation #148)  » Fri May 13, 2016 11:02 am

In post 2096, drmyshottyizsik wrote:You can't say I don't give a shit about other people. This is slander.


it's what you said
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Post Post #2105  (isolation #149)  » Fri May 13, 2016 11:10 am

In post 1979, drmyshottyizsik wrote:Just because I had a social and geographical predisposition does not mean I should feel guilty or be any less free in enjoying my pursuit of happiness.

In post 1980, Psyche wrote:sure, don't be guilty
but if you don't let moral considerations constrain your pursuit of your own self-interest you're either a sociopath or a sociopath in training
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Post Post #2106  (isolation #150)  » Fri May 13, 2016 11:12 am

In post 2102, drmyshottyizsik wrote:
In post 2100, Dwlee99 wrote:You questioned me when I said social welfare, and by mandated charity I mean taxes.for these.programs.

Then you sir misread.

it was a discussion about welfare programs and you only brought up your service to argue that the government shouldn't be involved in them
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Post Post #2114  (isolation #151)  » Tue May 17, 2016 8:33 am

someone posting something about trump doesn't necessarily mean they're trying to make an argument against trump
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Post Post #2118  (isolation #152)  » Tue May 17, 2016 10:00 am

congrats
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Post Post #2121  (isolation #153)  » Tue May 17, 2016 11:07 am

what does it mean to be a conservative if you'd go out of your way to vote for bernie sanders
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Post Post #2129  (isolation #154)  » Tue May 17, 2016 11:29 am

democrats prefer hillary
every single poll says so
even supposing she has rigged the election, every indicator suggests that she never really needed to
it just seems like you're being a sore loser
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Post Post #2142  (isolation #155)  » Tue May 17, 2016 1:25 pm

what's so damaging about hillary? she's just more of the same
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Post Post #2145  (isolation #156)  » Tue May 17, 2016 1:38 pm

seriously? the damaging thing is benghazi?
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Post Post #2152  (isolation #157)  » Tue May 17, 2016 1:50 pm

In post 2148, drmyshottyizsik wrote:
In post 2145, Psyche wrote:seriously? the damaging thing is benghazi?

Are you seriously going to defend that....

i mean
it was a bad thing
but have some perspective
bush presided over 9/11 for god's sake
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Post Post #2157  (isolation #158)  » Tue May 17, 2016 1:58 pm

drmy there is absolutely no way i can anticipate what you've been taught to believe about hillary's role in the catastrophe
i believe she was just incompetent and neglectful
maybe you think she killed christopher stevens with her bare hands
i don't know what to tell you
if the worst thing i can expect from a hillary presidency is another benghazi then i should be a lot less worried about her than i am now
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Post Post #2159  (isolation #159)  » Tue May 17, 2016 2:01 pm

the terms just obfuscate rather than really clarify anything about what's going on
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Post Post #2162  (isolation #160)  » Tue May 17, 2016 2:08 pm

no one is capable of being aware of everything happening in the world all the time, no one conducts foreign policy perfectly
we've never had a president who didn't have a benghazi
9/11 was so catastrophic that it changed the course of united states history
no one will remember benghazi in decade
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Post Post #2168  (isolation #161)  » Tue May 17, 2016 2:19 pm

In post 2165, BROseidon wrote:I guess the tl;dr is that the political parties and the media set Hillary up to succeed as their chosen one, but that doesn't sound as negative as I feel it is

do u think the media did it deliberately
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Post Post #2171  (isolation #162)  » Tue May 17, 2016 2:29 pm

sigh
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Post Post #2174  (isolation #163)  » Tue May 17, 2016 4:07 pm

lol

100% VINDICATED!!
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Post Post #2198  (isolation #164)  » Wed May 18, 2016 1:44 pm

obama's unavailable it's really sad
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Post Post #2200  (isolation #165)  » Wed May 18, 2016 1:51 pm

if you say so!
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Post Post #2229  (isolation #166)  » Wed May 18, 2016 2:40 pm

In post 2227, Albert B. Rampage wrote:Even if he loses, this will have been the best year of my life!

im so sry
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Post Post #2232  (isolation #167)  » Wed May 18, 2016 3:07 pm

so about that "shut the fuck up" line...
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Post Post #2275  (isolation #168)  » Thu May 19, 2016 1:08 am

In post 2245, Albert B. Rampage wrote:I used to consider myself a liberal and try not to offend various groups.

I changed my mind when Charlie Hebdo was attacked and people I knew in real life said "well they shouldn't mock islam."

Then I looked around and realized a double standard. People could say whatever they wanted about some religions but not others. Censorship. Everything has to be filtered, moderated, or reported and banned. By this point, I became personally aquainted with multiple high profile people who had been punished by the law for their freedom of expression. It's not right. I reserve my right to use whatever words I want to, and it will offend some people and that's okay. Conflict is inevitable.

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Post Post #2276  (isolation #169)  » Thu May 19, 2016 1:09 am

In post 2248, Albert B. Rampage wrote:Trump has never said anything homophobic.

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Post Post #2278  (isolation #170)  » Thu May 19, 2016 1:11 am

In post 2257, drmyshottyizsik wrote:
In post 2256, Dwlee99 wrote:kinda I skimmed and saw he said he would support it.

sigh. you ever study philosophy? They do a lot of truth centered arguing. There is a common agreement that to argue from a point of ignorance is unforgivable and damning to the species

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Post Post #2279  (isolation #171)  » Thu May 19, 2016 1:19 am

In post 2265, drmyshottyizsik wrote:
In post 2260, Dwlee99 wrote:In 2011 and 2013 trump made homophobic comments, your move, shotty.

Oh I wasn't arguing, I just wanted proof. I support gay rights, I don't think Clinton or Trump or Sander will undue or try to undue that, so it's a non issue. I know dems like to freak out over non issues, but I'm going to sit this one out.

Trump said he'd sign a bill that protects people from offering services to gay people if Congress put it on his desk. He would appoint supreme court justices who'd overturn the gay marriage decision. Right now. Even before Hillary came out for gay marriage, she did a lot for LGBT people. Focusing on the recency of her shift on gay marriage ignores every actually meaningful difference between the two candidates on the issue and is as intellectually dishonest as the bulk of your other posts in this thread.
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Post Post #2295  (isolation #172)  » Thu May 19, 2016 7:25 am

In post 2294, drmyshottyizsik wrote:You are making a fool of your self

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Post Post #2370  (isolation #173)  » Wed May 25, 2016 4:25 pm

this isn't love
this is a mockery of love
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Post Post #2372  (isolation #174)  » Wed May 25, 2016 4:27 pm

who is colin mochrie
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Post Post #2395  (isolation #175)  » Tue May 31, 2016 8:19 pm

no need to respond to him he just likes to hear himself talk
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Post Post #2404  (isolation #176)  » Sun Jun 05, 2016 10:27 am

can we fit more fact-free false equivalencies on this page too
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Post Post #2420  (isolation #177)  » Thu Jun 09, 2016 1:40 pm

surprisingly, including johnson in threeway polls shaves more support frok hillary than it does from don
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Post Post #2423  (isolation #178)  » Thu Jun 09, 2016 3:02 pm

he'd be better off if he did
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Post Post #2436  (isolation #179)  » Thu Jun 09, 2016 10:14 pm

i think christmas is cool!
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Post Post #2437  (isolation #180)  » Thu Jun 09, 2016 10:17 pm

it's always so weird to see tso ascribe beliefs to me that ive never even implied i have!
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Post Post #2446  (isolation #181)  » Thu Jun 09, 2016 11:19 pm

lol
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Post Post #2460  (isolation #182)  » Thu Jun 09, 2016 11:37 pm

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Post Post #2517  (isolation #183)  » Fri Jul 22, 2016 8:00 pm

In post 2508, Egg wrote:All I wanna say real quick is that a man who can go into the convention in front of all Republicans and say he's going to take care of the LBGT community definitely sounds like someone who would unite the country if people listened to him and not the media's perception of him. Ok, pretend I was never here.

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donald trump has gotten wayyy more positive press this election season than hillary has
if people only listened to the media's perception of trump more, he wouldn't be losing right now
but sure go on demeaning the basic intellectual independence of the american people
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Post Post #2528  (isolation #184)  » Sat Jul 23, 2016 1:38 pm

tso always has us nailed guys
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Post Post #2547  (isolation #185)  » Tue Jul 26, 2016 6:58 am

lol
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Post Post #2556  (isolation #186)  » Wed Jul 27, 2016 10:38 pm

so thin-skinned
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Post Post #2559  (isolation #187)  » Fri Jul 29, 2016 4:31 pm


if only she were more like DJT
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Post Post #2584  (isolation #188)  » Sat Jul 30, 2016 12:11 am

In post 2564, T S O wrote:now I wait for everyone in the thread to post a semi-snide remark about me, weakly disparage trump and completely skate around objectively discussing Hillary's corruption

you actually wait for that stuff?
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Post Post #2585  (isolation #189)  » Sat Jul 30, 2016 12:15 am

some googling suggests that there are many examples of objective measures of overall corruption in a nation's public sector, but none of any particular politician
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Post Post #2587  (isolation #190)  » Sat Jul 30, 2016 12:20 am

when did this become the republican's thread
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Post Post #2596  (isolation #191)  » Sat Jul 30, 2016 4:38 pm

we'll see if he gets away with it
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Post Post #2597  (isolation #192)  » Sat Jul 30, 2016 4:40 pm

In post 2594, Albert B. Rampage wrote:the father blames Trump for their son who died in Iraq.

that's actually not what the speech asserted
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Post Post #2655  (isolation #193)  » Mon Aug 01, 2016 1:38 am

In post 2654, Accountant wrote:I think the differences are too major for them to be the same person like you're implying

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Post Post #2695  (isolation #194)  » Sat Aug 13, 2016 4:32 am

yeah "nixon is better than trump" does do a good job of summing up how i feel about him as an option for president

is nixon better than hillary, though? that's sort of a hard call for me
i do think that if he ran for a third term against her than she wouldn't so ahead in the polls as she is right now against Trump
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Post Post #2696  (isolation #195)  » Sat Aug 13, 2016 4:33 am

is anyone here besides the crazy rightringers convinced that hillary is more corrupt than nixon?
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Post Post #2704  (isolation #196)  » Sat Aug 13, 2016 9:32 am

i don't agree clinton will ruin the country
she'll be mediocre at worst

but even if she turns out to be the worst president ever her greatest service to the country will have been preventing donald trump from winning and being even worse
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Post Post #2707  (isolation #197)  » Sat Aug 13, 2016 9:34 am

Did you know that a vote for one candidate for an office reduces the likelihood that all other candidates will win that office?
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Post Post #2716  (isolation #198)  » Sat Aug 13, 2016 9:38 am

In post 2713, KuroiXHF wrote:Yes. It's an added benefit for voting for my candidate.

i've decided to stop shaming people for this sort of decision
vote your conscience
but know that i'm voting mine, too
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Post Post #2719  (isolation #199)  » Sat Aug 13, 2016 9:45 am

probably more efficiently serves your vision of the good to focus on convincing people your politics are the best
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