Mini 1868 - Sakura Wars: So Long, My Love Mafia [GAME OVER]
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Well hopefully the vig knows to shoot random.
VOTE: Medea
You haven't really addressed any of the issues I had with your slot.
I am biased in my read on Indigo because I like the color. If he's V/lA for a week its really not a pressing issue anyway.
Weren't you voting Persivul before? We agree that read. Why are you no longer interested in pursuing him?Fate is absurdly beautiful. 運命に弄ばれる
"Fate you keep alternating between narratives of doing it for fun and doing it for the sake of winning"-
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Town side of null - can't go stronger than that as there's only 6 posts. I agree with them on the LUV push, and that's mostly what they discussed.In post 299, Medea the Alien wrote:What's your read on Indigo at this point?
I think the better question in this setup is, do you seeForgetting the V/LA issue, do you see town motivation in their posts?scummotivation in their posts, and to that I'd say -no.-
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Medea the Alien Mafia Scum
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I'm afraid I don't see what the issue is. If you could please explain it to me I could fix it for you.-
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Medea the Alien Mafia Scum
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Since your issues with my slot are centered on that you don't think I'm scumhunting/I'm not engaging/I'm playing it safe, it seems pretty useless for me to devolve into an 'am too, are not' discussion. If there's something you want my opinion on I'll discuss, but otherwise I'm fine pursuing my own lines of inquiry with your watchful gaze over my shoulder.In post 300, Fate wrote:Well hopefully the vig knows to shoot random.
VOTE: Medea
You haven't really addressed any of the issues I had with your slot.
I am biased in my read on Indigo because I like the color. If he's V/lA for a week its really not a pressing issue anyway.
Weren't you voting Persivul before? We agree that read. Why are you no longer interested in pursuing him?
And nope, first vote placed was on Indigo where it's stayed. Cabd doesn't RVS, and I didn't feel like it.
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P-edit:Mod, everything before his comment at the end of the post came from my quote; it breaks the quote box partway through the wall.(expired on 2021-08-14 00:00:01)-
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Vote Count
Gamma Emerald -
Reflektor - Gamma Emerald (L-6)
randomidget -
Lil Uzi Vert - Empking (L-6)
Empking -
Aj The Epic - shadonra (L-6)
BBMolla -
shadonra - Lil Uzi Vert (L-6)
Indigo - Medea the Alien, BBMolla (L-5)
Fate - Aj the Epic, randomidget, Reflektor, Persivul (L-3)
Persivul -
Tammy -
Medea The Alien - Tammy, Medea the Alien (L-5)
No Lynch -
With 13 alive, it's 7 to lynch!
Not Voting: Indigo
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(expired on 2017-01-21 15:15:25)Last edited by Keybladewielder on Sun Feb 05, 2017 7:48 am, edited 3 times in total.-
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Keybladewielder AnyMafia ScumAny
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In post 304, Medea the Alien wrote:
Since your issues with my slot are centered on that you don't think I'm scumhunting/I'm not engaging/I'm playing it safe, it seems pretty useless for me to devolve into an 'am too, are not' discussion. If there's something you want my opinion on I'll discuss, but otherwise I'm fine pursuing my own lines of inquiry with your watchful gaze over my shoulder.In post 300, Fate wrote:Well hopefully the vig knows to shoot random.
VOTE: Medea
You haven't really addressed any of the issues I had with your slot.
I am biased in my read on Indigo because I like the color. If he's V/lA for a week its really not a pressing issue anyway.
Weren't you voting Persivul before? We agree that read. Why are you no longer interested in pursuing him?
And nope, first vote placed was on Indigo where it's stayed. Cabd doesn't RVS, and I didn't feel like it.
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P-edit:Mod, everything before his comment at the end of the post came from my quote; it breaks the quote box partway through the wall.I believe I have fixed the error.-
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Fate :HAPPY:
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I am voting Medea the Alien as of this page
Alien now that you see Indigo is AFk from this thread, it supports my claim that youre not actively taking risks because what the hell is that wagon going to do?Fate is absurdly beautiful. 運命に弄ばれる
"Fate you keep alternating between narratives of doing it for fun and doing it for the sake of winning"-
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Empking Empking's Alt's Alt
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It isn't starting discussion as it didn't start duiscussion. I don't particularly want to talk about Shan and I think you are misrepresenting me.In post 290, Lil Uzi Vert wrote:In post 276, Empking wrote:
If you want to make it a subject of discusson you have to start a discussion. It obviously did not become a subject of discussion.In post 237, Lil Uzi Vert wrote:
Right, but what's the issue with attempting to make it a discussion by voting for him?In post 233, Empking wrote:In post 232, Lil Uzi Vert wrote:
Neither was Fate. Page 9 didn't have a main subject of discussion.In post 231, Empking wrote:
Shonora's entrance was not the subject of discussion. Since that was the entirety of my point then the difference is very large indeed.In post 230, Lil Uzi Vert wrote:
My reasons are for Shondora's entrance which was on the same page. I'm not seeing the difference.In post 229, Empking wrote:LUV: Fate was the subject of conversation when BB moved. His reasons are - presumably - a mix of what the posts above him say.
Shonora's entrance was not a subject of discussion. Since that was the entirety of my point then the difference is very large indeed.
The Fate wagon just feels cold and weird. Not sure if scummy but it leaves m icy cold.
Don't like Hypo-clsiming. Scum have enough info that they cn yse it to narrow down the investigative roles. Frankly if the Cop gets a guilty then he should just come out with it and he can breadcrumb innocents for when he flips.
Why do you feel my naked vote isn't starting discussion? You haven't asked why I'm voting for Shadonra and you don't seem to care why. If you wanted a discussion about it so badly, you would've asked me why I'm scum reading him.Plus, if you guys want to make a point, skip the walls, because everyone else in the game does as well. - Magister Ludi-
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VOTE: BBmolla
I mean honestly you couldn't ask for a more useless vote than dropping one on indigo. Wants LuV wagon, gets two generic townreads, moves on to Fate. He even says Uzi's posts aren't good. Which, going by his last post
He should still be voting LuV as he's said nothing about Fate anyways.In post 282, BBmolla wrote:In all honesty I'm not voting for pressure any more im just voting who I think is most likely scum
Also he actually took part in RQS so fuck him.-
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If you were a president you'd be Howard Daft.In post 309, Aj The Epic wrote:Also he actually took part in RQS so fuck him.@thesupertriomusical on Instagram, come see it if you’re in LA area, I wrote it!-
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I have thoughts ofc, but none of them are worth shit. Medea's posting a lot more than I would early on. I find it interesting Medea has picked up so much focus and so little followup, be it votes or anything beyond a passing interest. I don't give a fuck about tone and it's too early to notice any odd motives. Ergo I'm just watching.
Least I'd be a president. The only election you're gonna win is this lynch vote.In post 314, BBmolla wrote:If you were a president you'd be Howard Daft.-
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Tammy Survivor
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This post will probably be short/probably be long, but will be my last, so.
I'm on my iPad so I'm not going to quote stripe and will be going from memory on what I've gone through.
Pensivul - if you mean why am I scum hunting you when you ask why I'm casting shade on you, it's because I find you suspicious. The things you claim I'm missing in your scum hunting repertoire are you answering questions I asked. That isn't even close to the same as you spontaneously going through the thread and responding to things and I think you know very well the difference. You did stop commenting on the game once things really started picking up. Yes, you answers the questions I asked, but I still find it suspicious that you stopped commenting on things at the point I pointed out.
If you read that first post and it read as a personal reason for a vote then I would expect that to be your interpretation. I still don't get where you're interpretation came from, and I find the mischaracterization of it suspicious. What is your read on Medea?
Sharon - that is one of the easiest conversations for a hydra to lie about. Hell I've lied about more intricate conversations I've had with a hydra partner before.
I'm not getting the suspicion on fate because he wasn't posting. I know I mentioned he was at Canada meet so would be waiting for him. Fates definitely not afraid of posting as scum. So far I've liked his posts. Not a true town read I still don't have one of those, but I've liked what I've seen.
Prism - I never meant to suggest that you had to defer to nacho on everything. I did mean on my opening though. Though if you weren't going to defer to nacho on thoughts on me, why are you waiting to see what he thinks of Medea?
I didn't like random midget or shadonira's opening.
I still believe that Medea is scum.
Penguin - when I asked you what my scum motivation was, I was actually interested in your thoughts. But instead you dodged the question with a misapplication of the circular reading fallacy. You instead claimed something about what I thought also when I wanted your thoughts, not you actually getting completely wrong what you imagined my thoughts to be.
I don't think you needed to repeat yourself in 302 when you made your thoughts clear previously, and I'm, sorry you feel that way. You guys didn't have to sign up after I did if I'm so difficult to deal with you cant scum hunt me. I got the first time that you think I've done nothing alignment indicative, why are you afraid to take a stance on me? I know you said something about me being excited as scum once? You'd have to point that game out. Faking being holy I drew town is something I had to start doing when I was scum because I was getting caught for not being happy to play. So, that makes my first post null obviously. But that covers my first post, nothing else is excited to be playing, or trolling which would be null.
To my recollection we have never had a conflict in a game, so I have no idea where this I can't comment/ask you a question because of the emotional drama it entails comes from. I e been tunneled on and scum hunted plenty and been perfectly fine. But you definitely want to let me know that there's an issue here with me and something to do with my emotions. I think you actually want to get a rise out of me with your posts and reminder that I'm emotionally problematic that way you can sit back and go see that's why I didn't want to engage in the first place. But you are being kinda mechanically antagonistic, that's not quite right, but there is definitely something off and weird, you certainly feel fine kinda putting me in my place so you should be fine actually scum hunting me.
I think it's because you're scum, but on the off chance you are somehow town and this is an actual problem you have with me, I'm leaving. I'm never going to stop thinking you're scum, and if you're actually town and you can't have any inkling on the heart and soul I've put into this game so far and you're sitting back too afraid to scum hunt me because I'll blow up, then that is going to be terrible for this game especially. Hopefully my replacement won't cause any emotional distress here.
I haven't had any issues with bb's posting, and people are making too much of gamma's rqs thing.
Anyways so long, playing with friends isn't all it's cracked up to be, good luck town.
mod - replace me sorryI am in the top 90% of scumhunters onsite!-
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Medea the Alien Mafia Scum
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Fate: I don't have a stronger scum read I feel like voting right now. I'm scum reading Lil Uzi Vert, but it's too gut for me to be ready to vote there. I'll move our vote if I feel like there's someone I want lynched more, but I'm also assuming Indigo will be back in here to some extent even if not oodles.
I'm really annoyed that Tammy replaced out after taking the effort to address her questions/comments. And for the record, Tammy (not that it matters now), that was meant as an indication that I wasn't blowing you off. Since you didn't post in the 36 hours after I did initially, I didn't know how specifically you wanted stuff answered.
On the plus side yeah, fine, I'm town reading the slot now, seeing as if she pulled this shit as scum I'd be incredibly disappointed.
I'm too pissed to deal with this further tonight and I need sleep. Other head is likely home sick from work tomorrow and can entertain you all then.
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This post is just going to be responses to questions asked by others, impressions of last few pages coming up next.
I never said he felt town to me either, I only said this looks nothing like the game I played where I was scum with him, which is here.In post 255, Medea the Alien wrote:Can you elaborate a bit? Because nothing from his entrance on has felt town to me.
The issue with the lazy questions is that I can't see what insight you were trying to gain from them. They seem like questions for the sake of it. I was taking a different approach to the game entirely, and I've explained previously part of why I leave my opening posts so open ended. Another part that was unintentional was that my read on Tammy was shitty and I missed several whole sentences because I was walking death who was well beyond the point of physical exhaustion.In post 255, Medea the Alien wrote:I'm not quite buying that I'm horrendously lazy here. Grasping at straws, yes; but what better questions do you think I should have been asking? Because you weren't asking any.
Agreeing with my scumread, which has a 2/3 chance of being wrong to begin with, is not much of a towntell. It's more than a casual mind change, it's the pretext behind it that I explicitly list as one of my personal go-to tactics, which you're justifying my use of here. I don't get how you can be confused about it. Empking isn't scummy in my book, he was just clearly biased against LUV in his exchange with him-whether that's scum motivated or not is unclear.In post 255, Medea the Alien wrote:I'm confused by your thought process here. You're voting the person who's on board with your top scum read? See, I tend to think people who need to overexplain their read changes (cough, Indigo, cough) are scummier than casual mind changes. And you think Empking looks scummy through all that?
He's been MIA for the past 2-3 days but before that, just statements revolving around how he tries to get a read on you. I'm not revealing what those are, ask him after the game if you're curious.Fate wrote:And what has Nacho said about me? Curious that opinion didn't cross your mind.
I'm going to use Nacho, I'm not going to defer to Nacho. There's a big difference.Tammy wrote:Prism - I never meant to suggest that you had to defer to nacho on everything. I did mean on my opening though. Though if you weren't going to defer to nacho on thoughts on me, why are you waiting to see what he thinks of Medea?
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Not really getting that vibe at all.In post 292, shadonra wrote:
AJ's iso looks like this.In post 289, Lil Uzi Vert wrote: What don't you like about AJ's posts?
"setup spec setup spec setup spec"
"i hate setup spec! i never do setup spec"
"fate doesn't post"
It looks like he wanted to post but wasn't interested in saying anything.-
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Discussion is a two-way street. Your original complaint was that my naked vote was creating a bad atmosphere because I didn't give a reason. If you can't tell why I voting for someone and/or want me to explain why I'm voting for someone, part of your job description as town is to find out why and engage me. You haven't done that and you just admitted to not wanting to for whatever reason.In post 308, Empking wrote:
It isn't starting discussion as it didn't start duiscussion. I don't particularly want to talk about Shan and I think you are misrepresenting me.In post 290, Lil Uzi Vert wrote:In post 276, Empking wrote:
If you want to make it a subject of discusson you have to start a discussion. It obviously did not become a subject of discussion.In post 237, Lil Uzi Vert wrote:
Right, but what's the issue with attempting to make it a discussion by voting for him?In post 233, Empking wrote:In post 232, Lil Uzi Vert wrote:
Neither was Fate. Page 9 didn't have a main subject of discussion.In post 231, Empking wrote:
Shonora's entrance was not the subject of discussion. Since that was the entirety of my point then the difference is very large indeed.In post 230, Lil Uzi Vert wrote:
My reasons are for Shondora's entrance which was on the same page. I'm not seeing the difference.In post 229, Empking wrote:LUV: Fate was the subject of conversation when BB moved. His reasons are - presumably - a mix of what the posts above him say.
Shonora's entrance was not a subject of discussion. Since that was the entirety of my point then the difference is very large indeed.
The Fate wagon just feels cold and weird. Not sure if scummy but it leaves m icy cold.
Don't like Hypo-clsiming. Scum have enough info that they cn yse it to narrow down the investigative roles. Frankly if the Cop gets a guilty then he should just come out with it and he can breadcrumb innocents for when he flips.
Why do you feel my naked vote isn't starting discussion? You haven't asked why I'm voting for Shadonra and you don't seem to care why. If you wanted a discussion about it so badly, you would've asked me why I'm scum reading him.
I feel like you're stretching for reasons for scum read me at this point.-
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I'm actually really not sure how to feel about these last few pages. I like Shadonra's posts (in the sense that they feel town) even though I disagree with his opinion on Medea. I don't like Medea's latest posts despite their high effort and volume, especially #255.
Fate/Persivul/Aj are all works in progress. I'm juggling a bit too much today to really put in as much as I'd like. I'll try to come back to these later, responding to questions towards me is easy but reading for alignment is much harder. I'm having a hard time pinning down what to think about Persivul's posts especially. Don't be surprised if my initial impressions given above flip when I really get a chance to sit down and focus. (I realize the irony of this considering what I said about Fate)
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Eh, I reread his ISO and I kinda agree. Latest few posts make me think my read on him was bad.In post 320, Lil Uzi Vert wrote:
Not really getting that vibe at all.In post 292, shadonra wrote:
AJ's iso looks like this.In post 289, Lil Uzi Vert wrote: What don't you like about AJ's posts?
"setup spec setup spec setup spec"
"i hate setup spec! i never do setup spec"
"fate doesn't post"
It looks like he wanted to post but wasn't interested in saying anything.
VOTE: Lil Uzi Vert
I lean scum on posts like this (why does he get to do that and I don't? kinda thing)In post 215, Lil Uzi Vert wrote:
Why does my naked vote create a worse atmosphere and BB's doesn't? He just naked vote in 208.In post 214, Empking wrote:I would have joined the fun and silently voted LUV, if not for my already being on him. I don't like the post because he is being entirely silent on why he voted and one can not reasonably guess why. Presumably the vote, but why the vote. It just creates a worse atmosphere. However, as I said, I'm already on him.
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