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Post Post #2561 (isolation #200) » Wed Jan 11, 2017 4:33 am

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so like
who is
maybe i missed it but i haven't really seen anybody else pushing you

btw free townpoints if you vote gin
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Post Post #2562 (isolation #201) » Wed Jan 11, 2017 4:37 am

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i feel like dreamer is baiting me into another argument to shit up the thread again and amplify town apathy, but it's not gonna work because i've already sorted his slot (obvscum) so talking to him isn't really that important anymore, especially if he keeps making posts with no town intention and blatant scum intention
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Post Post #2820 (isolation #202) » Wed Jan 11, 2017 6:31 pm

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zach wrote:All Alone has spoken nothing but sense since he stepped INTO this motherfucker and he's become the scumread of many if I'm not mistaken(except for Titus), including Gin. What the fuck type of parallel universe are we in?
so much this, its ok zach i townread aa
In post 2714, Creature wrote:Can we not nolynch?
this


what even is the problem with this d1, fucking nothing except hyperposting
dreamer is just mad he got caught out d1 for the wrong reasons
In post 2741, Dunnstral wrote:I'd be ok with lynching Wraith
if there's multiball, wraith is scum
but his wallposts have been pretty townie
the more i read them the more i realize they're pretty fake though
really rather lynch gin, which will 100% give us a scumflip, to confirm multiball though
In post 2807, drealmerz7 wrote:half of you are backwards

hence why rowing this boat is so fucking difficult
laughed my ass off

no idea why vigGin would even want to shoot echo
he's not even lurking that hard, it's obvious by how and what he posts he'll be keeping up more as there's less players to shit up the thread
i know why scumGin would want to shoot echo though!
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Post Post #2830 (isolation #203) » Wed Jan 11, 2017 6:43 pm

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yes echo, put gin at l-1, for he is obviously scum
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Post Post #2832 (isolation #204) » Wed Jan 11, 2017 6:45 pm

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if you read the thread carefully there's a very very good reason, but i'm not telling you until it's appropriate.

apart from that, his claim was fucking stupid
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Post Post #2841 (isolation #205) » Wed Jan 11, 2017 6:48 pm

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he claimed vig, not dayvig

@dunn
i just wanna lynch scum tbh.
echo is a horrible target. he's not gonna lurk all game, and he's obviously putting effort in to the game. a lot more than some others.
where was my misrep, btw?
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Post Post #2857 (isolation #206) » Wed Jan 11, 2017 9:55 pm

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In post 2851, EchoVision wrote:oh hell no I'm not waiting for night to lynch this fucker we won't be able to get a wagon on him again it took over ten days to get this one, it's just not going to happen
this
gin has a great emotional and charismatic scumgame, but when you pick his posts apart it entirely falls apart
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Post Post #2858 (isolation #207) » Wed Jan 11, 2017 10:35 pm

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In post 2838, Dunnstral wrote:
In post 2834, EchoVision wrote:plus whoever puts in hammer is probably a scum fucker if he flips green so we can rape them tomorrow
Glad to know echo is on the case
this was hilarious btw, lol'd heartily
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Post Post #2860 (isolation #208) » Wed Jan 11, 2017 11:48 pm

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not rly tho
you got towns permission to shoot echo before you went for it, and you're pushing this reality so strongly (i'll just confirm myself overnight!) and are so obviously scummy that i'm beginning to truly buy into ginSK or multiball.

would you be a dear and let me know what one it is, because if it's multiball i wanna lynch wraith 2morrow and it'll give me the time to convince everybody else beforehand
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Post Post #2863 (isolation #209) » Wed Jan 11, 2017 11:56 pm

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sorry, i was constructing this post.
http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... 9#p8718359

1. why do you ask?
2. i think echo is towny, i wouldn't bet on it though. i definitely think there's far better targets to shoot, though.
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Post Post #2864 (isolation #210) » Wed Jan 11, 2017 11:56 pm

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3. where did i even say echo is town in that post?
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Post Post #2866 (isolation #211) » Wed Jan 11, 2017 11:59 pm

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his catchup spam is town motivated and proves that he's at least putting effort into the game, effort that will become important in the latter days when there's less players and less hyperposting. therefore, the lurker angle is irrelevant.

he's a new player and he's being very frank and transparent with his catchup posts. in this particular instance, i doubt echo would be shrewd enough to fake that as scum.
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Post Post #2869 (isolation #212) » Thu Jan 12, 2017 12:16 am

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You mean his other two newbie games which have both had considerably less activity than this, giving him no cause to be so overwhelmed?

I thought you were shooting echo tonight, why bother voting him?
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Post Post #2871 (isolation #213) » Thu Jan 12, 2017 12:21 am

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So what's your case, then?

It's also worth mentioning that trying to form a meta read off of one or two games is bollocks, because it's the time during which you learn the most in the shortest period of time.

Slick and Echo are both rancid shots and lynches.
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Post Post #2886 (isolation #214) » Thu Jan 12, 2017 1:33 am

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You're not excused.
Echo's defense checks out -and- is verifiable by Alisae.

Why are you suddenly pushing echo? Your play is survivalistic as fuck.

You latch on to no-lynch to not die. No traction. Then you latch on to slick-lynch to not die. No traction. Then you latch on to echo-lynch. You'll get on any wagon that isn't your own at this point, even though you literally said earlier 'Yeah I don't even care I'll just self-hammer!'

Town vig that wants to self-hammer doesn't say they'll self-hammer. They wait until they can self hammer, and then self-hammer.
Town vig doesn't claim at l-3/4. Town vig does all they can to keep the heat off of them and then claims at L-1 if they must.
Scum/SK does everything they can to keep a wagon off of them, and claims that they'll self-hammer if they have to but they never actually will.
Fucking lynch this.
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Post Post #2889 (isolation #215) » Thu Jan 12, 2017 1:36 am

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Nice way to disregard everything I said.

Nice analogy though, had a giggle.
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Post Post #2891 (isolation #216) » Thu Jan 12, 2017 1:41 am

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In post 2229, Human Sequencer wrote:gin, please link me to any game on any site where you've ever believed in a scumtell based on activity and/or timestamps
Going back to this, because you didn't actually cite anything valid.
In post 1499, TheRealGin-N-Tonic wrote:
Please have my babies oh my goddddddddddddddddd
Why did you love this analysis so much? What about it resonated with you? Can you link me to any other time you've found timestamps/activity damning? You didn't mention it when you were speaking about being pro-shooting echo/slick, just that you wanted to go with what town wants, so don't try and call on that.
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Post Post #2892 (isolation #217) » Thu Jan 12, 2017 1:41 am

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In case it's not obvious, I find your sheeping of my Dreamer analysis disingenuous.
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Post Post #2894 (isolation #218) » Thu Jan 12, 2017 1:44 am

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In post 2889, Human Sequencer wrote:Nice way to disregard everything I said.
A cloak of 'I'm talking to echo!!!' won't save you from other people reading my logic and agreeing with it, yknow, so you'd best get defending.
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Post Post #2909 (isolation #219) » Thu Jan 12, 2017 4:40 am

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Why would you fakeclaim vig as VT.
That fakeclaim was like 60% of my scumread on you.

Oh well.
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Post Post #3173 (isolation #220) » Sun Jan 15, 2017 1:55 am

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In post 2256, Human Sequencer wrote:obvious fakeclaim in context.
[...]
You're flailing, and you're being incredibly survivalistic to do anything to stop your lynch. I don't buy your claim for one second.
VOTE: Gin
just putting this here


>tfw a slot you haven't been focusing on at all gets the nightkill and flips scum
christmas came real fuggin early this year!
multiball is confirmed, time to powerlynch wraith
VOTE: wraith

dreamer/alisae/pine really scummy for jumping on creature for 0 reasoning
all slots could equally be scum trying to jump on an unlynchable slot for weak reasoning, whilst at the same time feeling solace in the two 'townies' around them agreeing


>multiball


that was me


yeah creature i hope this gets explained because wraith looks like a slam-dunk wagon atm tbh bbq
edit: did not get adequately explained


can we please fucking lynch this already? this is rancidly scummy, and rancid attitude. two birds with one stone!
In post 2996, Dunnstral wrote:Remember how we agreed to lynch wraith if the game was multiball
i was literally the only person to say that, nice misrep. i stand by it, tho. fishing for an easy mislynch?


i seriously doubt this, sorry daddy


what the fuck is with this weird obsession you have with me this game
why do you keep bringing all this shit back with no comment, what did they mean by this?
are you coming on to me tsundere style? lewd



you should seriously doubt this too, look into it


translation:
'i-it's not like i l-like you or a-anything...'


dreamer is still an incredible lynch
ali is still a good lynch


this!


still unclear


bdsm_tokyo is a good lynch for this post alone, especially if the other team/teams are confirmed blue.
why are you assuming blue? it could be red/yellow/green (primary colours) or literally anything else yet you nonchalantly speak with confidence that the other team is blue.

haven't directly linked any of zach's posts yet because nothing individually has really pinged me, but i can say that they feel kinda scummy. they were a strong tr d1 but since i'm not so sure


really good post


>he scumreads creature


aaaaaaaa
posts like this terrify me, funnstral
this could easily be scumDunn slipping 'nk' for 'vig'

>two pages of meta bullshit between two radically different circumstances
lol

no way i'm lynching echo today when we have dreamer, wraith and ali in this game. no fucking way. unless town is stupid enough to not lynch them i guess, but even then echo is kinda town so i'd need some convincing.


yo slick this is fuckin pathetic tbh, i hard defended you yesterday because you said you'd be contributing more later when the heavy egos are gone and this is all you got. i gave you some leeway earlier for the lurkin, gherkin, but that shit ain't gonna fly no more homie, get yo' head in the game
^idk what happened to my typing lmao
In post 3146, Dunnstral wrote:Alright lads, I figure this is a good a time as any to mention my own investigate guilty on
Echovision
... let's lynch
Echovision
and laugh at rb
if this is a legit claim you have my vote
dunn, plz explain?


its ok, funnstral, you can tell me how you really feel
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Post Post #3176 (isolation #221) » Sun Jan 15, 2017 3:11 am

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aa, what's your other experience w/ mafia? are you an alt?
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Post Post #3182 (isolation #222) » Sun Jan 15, 2017 5:18 am

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@dream, echo, everybody else buying into the dunn claim
maybe you guys should actually read the thread lmao
wraith's post has spoiler tags yknow, try opening them
i know i gave him a question mark earlier, but that was just me trying to figure out where he was going with it

btw wraith we agree on a lot, did you bother reading my post?
i would be worried you're buddying up to me but every time i worry that i'm wrong and the other person was just making the same logical leaps i was (RE: copper, smith, umlaut)
then again the way you didn't comment on my post at all looked legit
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Post Post #3185 (isolation #223) » Sun Jan 15, 2017 5:38 am

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because you're both pretty obvscum? i'm not tunneled, i dug into slick for doing fuck all and am considering jumping on that wagon and weighed in on the echo situation. you skimmed it because you think i'm tunneled, but that skim would be enough to show that i'm clearly not because of how i'm interacting with others. give it another look, maybe?

i'm glad you're around, how do you justify slipping multiball at the start?
In post 510, Human Sequencer wrote:
Alright I hope I'm not the only one who saw this. Wraith intends to imply that Debi is scum, because they have a foreknowledge of the setup (how many scum there are), and then pushes that it's multiball. Correct me if I'm wrong, but if it's multiball, surely scum aren't informed how many other teams there are or how many scum are on those teams, so how would Debi have that foreknowledge? I would waive this as Wraith just making a mistake if he didn't pull the multiball assumption out of his ass-- That implies to me that -he- knows it's multiball. 'Foreknowledge of the setup'.
Debi wasn't even being that serious with the 9/10 split, she said the following:
Debi wrote:So just for the sake of it, lets say we had 10 towns in this game, and 9 scum, it is unlikely but go with it.
And beyond that never even implied that they believed there was multiball. Really suss, strongest scumread as of this post.
^what i'm referring to

i'm actually pretty unsure on your slot because 119 is damning as fuck but everything else is pretty damn town so i'm glad you're around so i can sort you
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Post Post #3187 (isolation #224) » Sun Jan 15, 2017 5:58 am

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perhaps because i don't have any other reason to scumread you
overall i think your walls are good i just wish you focused less on being so broad tbh
checks out, so your defense is consistent, but i still think it's flawed. i don't buy that you legitimately misread debi's comment as multiball spec, and i don't know if you do either.

what do you have to say about pushing rb for a scumslip based on multiball, and then saying that you doubt its multiball?

furthermore, if you think 19p is too little for multiball, why did you buy into it so easily when debi was speccing it, especially considering she never actually directly mentioned multiball? i think if you legitimately doubted multiball due to playercount, reading debi's post wouldn't have pinged you at all. you jumping onto it reads like you knowing it's multiball and knowing debi might be slipping that.
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Post Post #3189 (isolation #225) » Sun Jan 15, 2017 6:21 am

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that's a good point RE:grey, i missed that because lol context. grey pushed you for the slip, because he knew. he had prior knowledge. i'm getting the feeling that's exactly what happened between you and debi.

yeah that cognitive dissonance is what i'm trying to resolve now lmao
i still just can't get my head around how you can look at debi's post and say 'yep she's saying multiball' without prior knowledge of multiball, it's eating away at me

i'd rather you formulate your own read on me, you've proven able to do it before. unless i'm a low-priority slot, in which case, ok.

definitely still dtl wraith today. sec, compiling some information together
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Post Post #3190 (isolation #226) » Sun Jan 15, 2017 6:23 am

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i was gonna compile an unofficial votecount but FUCK THAT lmao, that shit takes more effort than i thought

VOTE: slick
post moar
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Post Post #3193 (isolation #227) » Sun Jan 15, 2017 6:35 am

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would you like to substantiate that claim by looking into each player's individual reasoning and picking apart why it fails?
you don't see how that idea could come from town?

it looks like you've got a good ground to start with (or at least you definitely think you do), but where do you want to go with it?
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Post Post #3194 (isolation #228) » Sun Jan 15, 2017 6:36 am

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pedit: eh that could be town i suppose, unless kyouko is blue which i suppose would support him slipping blue but cmon there's no way he's that stupid
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Post Post #3195 (isolation #229) » Sun Jan 15, 2017 6:37 am

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like if anything i feel like he's red and just assumes or is told blue is the other team based on some private mod given information we don't have, apart from that he's probably town
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Post Post #3249 (isolation #230) » Sun Jan 15, 2017 5:35 pm

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yeah dunn the point is 'idk u r hard 2 read'
i can try and figure out other people but it's hard to try and figure out you. it didn't matter in micro dance, but it matters now because after you being scum in large dance i'm scared you might be scum again

still waiting on slick to post moar
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Post Post #3252 (isolation #231) » Sun Jan 15, 2017 5:40 pm

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In post 3215, ssbm_Kyouko wrote:VOTE: SlickDilinger
This isn't to do with the desperado, just looks like he was trying to tie himself to d7 yesterday up until he got onto Gin's wagon after it gained real momentum
explain this in more detail? i don't really understand what you mean
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Post Post #3253 (isolation #232) » Sun Jan 15, 2017 5:42 pm

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remember how when gin's wagon picked up he started hyperposting and we got a whole lotta content out of him
yah, that
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Post Post #3256 (isolation #233) » Sun Jan 15, 2017 5:56 pm

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lolwat that was a legit hammer
now i know how everybody else feels when i quickhammer lmoa
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Post Post #3260 (isolation #234) » Sun Jan 15, 2017 6:00 pm

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i agree but like
i really haven't gotten anything to make me convinced that he's scum either
this is at least one of the better lynches we could have landed on i guess
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Post Post #3262 (isolation #235) » Sun Jan 15, 2017 6:02 pm

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DUNN STOP INTERACTING IN VAGUE POETRY, TALK TO ME
YOU USED TO SAY MY NAME DURING, WHAT HAPPENED

you remind me of my ex
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Post Post #3264 (isolation #236) » Sun Jan 15, 2017 6:04 pm

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anything
just please talk more i have no idea what to make of you when everything is absolutely nothing and its driving me up the wall
eeeegh

what does gg mean why did you say gg why are you quoting me for no reason whyyyyyyyyyyyy
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Post Post #3265 (isolation #237) » Sun Jan 15, 2017 6:05 pm

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tl;dr you're being coy as fuck and i thought it was a front at first but now i have no idea what to make of you which is terrfying because i'm actively trying to sort your slot and its fucking impossible
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Post Post #3267 (isolation #238) » Sun Jan 15, 2017 6:07 pm

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In post 3250, Alisae wrote:Ya wanna know what would make the post above me believable? An unvote.
need to get this in before lock, contrast this to her hammer
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Post Post #3268 (isolation #239) » Sun Jan 15, 2017 6:07 pm

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o ok
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Post Post #3269 (isolation #240) » Sun Jan 15, 2017 6:08 pm

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ali what the fuck don't do that to me
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Post Post #3272 (isolation #241) » Sun Jan 15, 2017 6:09 pm

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UNVOTE:
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Post Post #3274 (isolation #242) » Sun Jan 15, 2017 6:09 pm

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sometimes i wonder if creature actually has no idea or is just fucking with us constantly at all times
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Post Post #3277 (isolation #243) » Sun Jan 15, 2017 6:11 pm

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slick my vote is on you
you cant see it, but its there
post moar
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Post Post #3279 (isolation #244) » Sun Jan 15, 2017 6:12 pm

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alisae personal history w/ echo go
i ask because he called on you for verification purposes earlier, and i bought it. curious as to your scumread and history w/ echo
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Post Post #3280 (isolation #245) » Sun Jan 15, 2017 6:14 pm

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if alisae makes it to lylo i will be filled with an incredible sadness
she posts so much transparently scummy shit and everybody just glazes right over it because 'lol lynchbait'
lynchbait=/= town
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Post Post #3285 (isolation #246) » Sun Jan 15, 2017 6:18 pm

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@dreamer yeah but you're on my 'to lynch' list a notch or two higher than her so

the difference is i think i'm one of the only ones scumreading you whereas everybody knows alisae is being objectively scummy but is just ignoring it because lol lynchbait meemz

@alisae but you pushed literally fucking everybody alive and no lynch, just because you were right on the last one doesn't justify being wrong on everything else

@dunn WHAT THE FUCK DOES IT MEAN
I WANNA TRUST YOU DUNN BUT IVE BEEN DOWN THAT PATH BEFORE AND ITS NOTHING BUT THORNS
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Post Post #3287 (isolation #247) » Sun Jan 15, 2017 6:20 pm

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YA I KNOW THATS WHY I DONT WANT YOU IN LYLO
I STILL LOOOOOOOVE YOU PLEEEEEASE UNDERSTAAAAAAND

look at this shit, one sec quoting
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Post Post #3288 (isolation #248) » Sun Jan 15, 2017 6:21 pm

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(also posting is weird as fuck because i'm stupendously sleep deprived but in the weirdest fucking way trust me)
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Post Post #3290 (isolation #249) » Sun Jan 15, 2017 6:23 pm

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Alisae two trillion posts ago wrote:Town points for both of ywall for seeing past lynch bait instead of hopping on.
she did it again later
as soon as i called her out on this 'HEY! I'M LYNCHBAIT! DON'T LYNCH LYNCHBAIT!' bullshit she fuggin STOPPED dead in the water, i was dismissed but she KNOWS that's bullshit and will get her lynched, scum modifying their play PROVE ME FUGGIN WRONG
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Post Post #3291 (isolation #250) » Sun Jan 15, 2017 6:24 pm

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@ali meta
ok
here is a picture of a duck
Image
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Post Post #3295 (isolation #251) » Sun Jan 15, 2017 6:25 pm

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today i spent 30$ on waterfront internet to tell people i love them on mafiascum and post ducks
stay classy, jd
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Post Post #3296 (isolation #252) » Sun Jan 15, 2017 6:26 pm

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In post 3293, drealmerz7 wrote:yuusssssss let's KILL alisae!!

c'mon!!!
THIS
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Post Post #3298 (isolation #253) » Sun Jan 15, 2017 6:27 pm

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THIS
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SPARTAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
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Post Post #3300 (isolation #254) » Sun Jan 15, 2017 6:29 pm

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i feel like slick probs woulda gotten some major coaching in daytalk by now to stop them being an obvlynch tbh\

I HAVE TO GO GOODBYE FRIENDS I AM GONE
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Post Post #3342 (isolation #255) » Mon Jan 16, 2017 1:15 am

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HELLO FRIENDS I AM HERE

dunn i'm just fuggin sick of not being able ro read you especially after large dance
i get hte feeling you're just fucking w/ me at this point
it's just annoying to be conciously focused on a slot and feel nothing but chaos and confusion
where did i say i suspect you, i'm p sure i pointed out a few potentially scummy things but i'm flip flopping on your slot so hard and i thought i made that obvious

alisae you'd do best to not waifu me trust me i'm not very waifuable for many reasons i'm opposite waifu tbh
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Post Post #3345 (isolation #256) » Mon Jan 16, 2017 1:21 am

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hey here i can post out of context quotes with no comment too
In post 3283, Dunnstral wrote:
In post 3264, Human Sequencer wrote:anything
just please talk more i have no idea what to make of you when everything is absolutely nothing and its driving me up the wall
eeeegh

what does gg mean why did you say gg why are you quoting me for no reason whyyyyyyyyyyyy
In post 3265, Human Sequencer wrote:tl;dr you're being coy as fuck and i thought it was a front at first but now i have no idea what to make of you which is terrfying because i'm actively trying to sort your slot and its fucking impossible
Huh? Let's just lynch
SlickDilinger
In post 3165, Dunnstral wrote:Nothing failed
just a small little sampling taste of posts i have no fucking idea how to read or understand or think about,.= and throw me out of a loop

PEDIT:
In post 3343, Dunnstral wrote:Nice misrep
PEDITPEDIT:YOURE FUCKING WITH ME ON PURPOSE YOURE SUCK A CRUEL
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Post Post #3349 (isolation #257) » Mon Jan 16, 2017 1:28 am

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so you think (or thought) slick has a wincon with either of the scumteams/
and you think that the teams are diefinintely blue/red

where are you voting, echo?

PEDIT: so its driving me bonkers up the fucking wall mad to not understand how to read you after x amount of playing with you with all of my focus and concentration dedicated to your posts
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Post Post #3350 (isolation #258) » Mon Jan 16, 2017 1:29 am

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In post 3346, Dunnstral wrote:
Purple
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red
I REREAD THIS WHAT THE FUCK DUNN STOP IT
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Post Post #3351 (isolation #259) » Mon Jan 16, 2017 1:30 am

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idk if you're being coy and hiding your reasoning for a good reason plz just tell me and i'll stop bugging you i'm not at a scumread for you yet
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Post Post #3353 (isolation #260) » Mon Jan 16, 2017 1:32 am

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so blue is town and red is mafia?
why did you swap colouration in 2246?
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Post Post #3357 (isolation #261) » Mon Jan 16, 2017 1:35 am

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Post Post #3399 (isolation #262) » Mon Jan 16, 2017 6:32 am

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fuck im so sorry guys, i'll be back maybe a day or two wen work isn't fucking me up the asshole im too tired to think at all especially with dunn fucking with me so hard, i just cannot think anything at all two pages just flew by and nothing happened in my mind at all
semi vla i guess
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Post Post #3444 (isolation #263) » Mon Jan 16, 2017 6:15 pm

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obligatory post because i feel obliged to post in this thread due to me having access to mafia scum dot net yet this post is entirely contentless and i have no intention to even read the thread today so it may as well not exist
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Post Post #3494 (isolation #264) » Wed Jan 18, 2017 8:45 am

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In post 3406, ssbm_Kyouko wrote:yeah ircher scumming it up, slick probably a valuable role dont let off, Ircher can be done later
absolutely fucking horrendous post lmao
ircher is towny to me (idk not a high priority slot) and that the fuck is that about slick?
if he meant 'slick is probably a (town power role) don't let off' then it's ??? scumslip maybe?
if he meant 'slick is probably a (mafia power role) don't let off' then where the fuck did he get the idea that he was a maf power role? afaik i'm the only one who was ever really defending him, do you sr me kyouko?
In post 3414, Dunnstral wrote:HS is lock town
WHAT THE CUCK IS THIS DUNN
stop playing my emotions like a fine harpsichord
In post 3429, Dunnstral wrote:Titus why ? ? ?

HOW...?
THATS RICHER THAN STICKY DATE PUDDING STRAWBERRY MESS MERINGUE CHOCOLATE TART WITH CHANTILLY CREAM COMING FROM YOU


eh i feel like this is kinda towny, definitely not pr so i wouldn't be too sad if it went through at this point but slick hasn't played that much and seems genuinely overwhelmed with this game in a way that i doubt scum would so openly display.
his comment about dunn scumhunting the other team (although i don't necessarily agree with it due to dunn being ???) isn't something i find realistic coming from scumSlick

idk about zach i'm fucking confused. i need less players in this game tbh, mafia is hard

rb sneaking in a 4am post

i don't really like the slick wagon anymore
VOTE: kyouko
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Post Post #3495 (isolation #265) » Wed Jan 18, 2017 8:45 am

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VOTE: BDSM_Tokyo
fixd
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Post Post #3504 (isolation #266) » Wed Jan 18, 2017 9:23 am

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read , he's pretty obv claiming vt

i'd prefer you don't hammer, vote kyouko instead
kyouko wagon is a good wagon
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Post Post #3507 (isolation #267) » Wed Jan 18, 2017 9:26 am

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zach you changing your avatar every hour makes it really tough for me to read your slot tbh
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Post Post #3527 (isolation #268) » Wed Jan 18, 2017 5:15 pm

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In post 3523, Creature wrote:Oh right, hi RadiantCowbells.
Isn't radiantcowbells a titus alt, which would make that person be in this game twice?

severa you look like buckets of fun, looking forward to this

@all alone
i feel like scumSlick would get overwhelmed and paranoid, perhaps flake out. i doubt they'd be able to make such a level headed and objective response.
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Post Post #3537 (isolation #269) » Wed Jan 18, 2017 5:53 pm

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creature tell me some good wagons that aren't slick
i'd ask rb but he's not here
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Post Post #3540 (isolation #270) » Wed Jan 18, 2017 6:06 pm

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severa was one of the better characters in one of the lesser fire emblems tbh
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Post Post #3548 (isolation #271) » Wed Jan 18, 2017 9:07 pm

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Severa you look at least half-witted
sell echo to me, i just see a whole lot of 'kinda towny' but I haven't been focusing on him too much so
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Post Post #3550 (isolation #272) » Wed Jan 18, 2017 9:10 pm

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no you need to be posting less not more
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Post Post #3556 (isolation #273) » Thu Jan 19, 2017 12:55 am

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uzi, rb, creature, titus, all alone
tell me whether or not i should be voting echo plz
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Post Post #3557 (isolation #274) » Thu Jan 19, 2017 1:04 am

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gin really didn't like echo
VOTE: echo even though i much prefer dreamer, alisae, wraith, kyouko... we have so many fucking lynchables in this game its ridiculous
need to look into zach more too, he confuses me
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Post Post #3558 (isolation #275) » Thu Jan 19, 2017 1:06 am

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actually no fuck off
VOTE: kyouko
the way everybody was talking made me feel like BDSM was an 'eh' wagon with few votes and kyouko was a dead end but checking the votecount it's actually the other way around

get off the slick wagon lads, join me on the kyouko wagon it's nice and warm
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Post Post #3562 (isolation #276) » Thu Jan 19, 2017 2:06 am

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echo is that the reason you originally disbelieved his fakeclaim?
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Post Post #3564 (isolation #277) » Thu Jan 19, 2017 2:08 am

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@zach wow big words i'm so scared

dreamer is still scum for all the reasons i cited about twohundred pages ago, andfor being not towny at all since
anybody can get pissed off and flame all over the thread
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Post Post #3571 (isolation #278) » Thu Jan 19, 2017 2:16 am

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In post 3562, Human Sequencer wrote:echo is that the reason you originally disbelieved his fakeclaim?
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Post Post #3579 (isolation #279) » Thu Jan 19, 2017 4:19 am

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In post 3559, Zachstralkita wrote:
In post 3557, Human Sequencer wrote: need to look into zach more too, he confuses me

You said this already, maybe you should actually do it. And explain while you're at it how the read changed from yesterday.


And how can you reasonably still see drealmerz as scum?
Where were you going with this? It looks like you were mounting up for a push, but with my response and your lack of response, it looks more like you were trying to look like you were doing something.
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Post Post #3584 (isolation #280) » Thu Jan 19, 2017 5:02 am

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Almost everything I see of Zach objectively tells me 'he's town' but there's something in the back of my mind telling me he's not. It makes everything I read of his that comes across as scummy get magnified in my mind.

You're very unapologetic in everything you do. I'm not sure if that lines up with who you are yet.

Has your read on me changed much recently?
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Post Post #3585 (isolation #281) » Thu Jan 19, 2017 5:02 am

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Or really just since the start of D2.
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Post Post #3587 (isolation #282) » Thu Jan 19, 2017 5:08 am

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So has your read changed?
Are you '???' on me now?
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Post Post #3589 (isolation #283) » Thu Jan 19, 2017 5:11 am

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Not Slick.
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Post Post #3590 (isolation #284) » Thu Jan 19, 2017 5:11 am

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I think Kyouko is good. Echo maybe ok.
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Post Post #3592 (isolation #285) » Thu Jan 19, 2017 5:13 am

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Really just want to know how you read me atm lmao
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Post Post #3595 (isolation #286) » Thu Jan 19, 2017 5:19 am

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Hum.

Really did seem like you were flip flopping there for a while. I had an idea as to why, but I guess it falls through now.

Can we just skip to 10p or something, mafia is hard as shit with so many slots.
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Post Post #3599 (isolation #287) » Thu Jan 19, 2017 6:05 am

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@uzi I did get back to you
In post 767, Human Sequencer wrote:
This isn't a scumread I think is particularly likely to come from scum. It reads more like townIrcher coming up with a bit of a stretchy scumread than scumIrcher doing the same.


Same. Reads far more like townIrcher going down the wrong track, as opposed to scumIrcher trying to start a wagon or something. Based on an understanding of Ircher's personality (I hesitate to use the word 'Meta' again, lmao), I read his tunnel on Debi genuine.

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Ircher picks up on the same thing I did 18 pages later. His logic is valid, and this incriminating Wraith is something I can (and did) absolutely get behind. If Wraith flips scum, Ircher is likely town, and Wraith is one of my higher scumreads atm.


Ircher wants to hear Dunn's opinion on Debi's slot. Town motivation is understanding Dunn's read on Debi for two reasons
1. Try and sort Dunn
2. Try and sort Debi
Ircher takes the points of other players' on board while formulating his reads, and the only scum motivation is 'Trying to look like town' and 'Understanding Dunn's perspective to manipulate him better'. I don't see the latter coming from scumIrcher at all, and I don't think this is the way scumIrcher would go about the former.
Worth noting Dunn never elaborated (not that that necessarily incriminates Dunn) and that Ircher never pushed him for it.


I really doubt scumIrcher would bother to mention this, unless Creature/Ircher is a scumteam and Ircher was interested in using this particular post for towncredit later, and I really highly doubt that's the kind of thing Ircher would do.


Reads genuine. He believes in his conviction, and does some minimal backpedaling, admitting that perhaps he was a little forefront with it, but still believes in it logically, which is a good sign. The logic is sound, and I doubt scumIrcher would do his half-backpedal without going the whole way and admitting that he was wrong to begin with.


Ircher again proving that he's interested in how other people read his scumreads. Supports his questioning earlier w/ Dunn.


Same.

At this point, I'm pretty convinced Ircher is town. Does anybody else wanna point me to any posts they find particularly incriminating they made? Uzi in particular. I hope my logic was written well enough for you to understand.
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Post Post #3603 (isolation #288) » Thu Jan 19, 2017 6:52 am

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Uzi holy shit why can't everybody just be more like you. IF YOU WANT TO ENGAGE WITH ME ON MY READS THIS IS HOW YOU FUGGIN DO IT PEOPLE

very clearly comes from an Ircher who has experience with this before. Creature is a very distinctive and unique player, and I doubt what he's saying is incorrect. If that's the case, what conceivable reason could scumIrcher have from mentioning it?
I understand that the absence of a scum motivation doesn't necessarily make a post completely townie, but in this particular instance I just highly doubt scumIrcher would say that. It's the kind of idea I could realistically see townIrcher formulating in his mind and sharing to the thread just because it's on his mind. I think that's far far more likely than scumIrcher being all manipulative, especially considering how he's played in games with me in the past. I'm glad you reminded me of these posts, because now I've remembered Ircher slot is pretty much conftown.

RB vs. Ircher was hilarious, weird and confusing all at once. I get the feeling Ircher was just really fuckin confused, and when he got a handle of the situation didn't want to lie about what he was doing and felt like 'well I just didn't understand' wouldn't be a valid defense for his actions. Yeah, it's survivalistic play, but in this particular instance I believe it's NAI at best because that's exactly how I expect Ircher would react in that particular circumstance as town. Ircher does weird and confusing things sometimes-- Look at the end of D1 in the mini normal Alisae, All Alone and I played recently for his softclaim, and perhaps you'll understand my reasoning a little better.

His titus vote just seems like a nice place for him to park his vote while he waits for something worse to come along. I don't think there was much thought to that vote tbh.

Ircher doing weird things for questionable reasons also kinda waives the whole 'No Lynch' thing. I think he was trying to do something along the lines of 'Get Gin confirmed' because he was scared of taking any drastic actions.
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Post Post #3605 (isolation #289) » Thu Jan 19, 2017 6:55 am

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I still don't know why this Slick wagon is derailing. If there's a Vig and he doesn't end up lynched, I nominate him for a shot tonight since he's clearly decided to not be helpful or participate in any way.
What makes you think there's a Vig in multiball after a night with only one kill?
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Post Post #3606 (isolation #290) » Thu Jan 19, 2017 6:55 am

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Or rather, what makes you think that's even conceivably possible?
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Post Post #3610 (isolation #291) » Thu Jan 19, 2017 7:08 am

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Wraith most of the posts you quoted actually make me townread kyouko lmao
Especially shit like this
In post 2992, ssbm_Kyouko wrote:I feel like this wagon is ignoring the info Gin's fakeclaim gave us. Working on a wallpost about the votes onto Gin's wagon atm.

He proposed shooting amongst 6 players and 5 of those players ended up voting him, making up half of his lynch wagon. We know texcat was scum and was within Gin's sights. We should be examining the others' reasons for voting Gin to see if we can uncover a blue mafia member there, and looking at how others reacted to tex being a target
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Post Post #3613 (isolation #292) » Thu Jan 19, 2017 7:15 am

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On the other hand when you actually read the iso you see just how fixated he is on red/blue mentality and his asspull theory on mafia shooting Wraith which makes me comfortable with my vote.
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Post Post #3703 (isolation #293) » Fri Jan 20, 2017 1:33 am

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And now massive scumpings from Slick.

Mafia is fuckin hard gaiz.
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Post Post #3704 (isolation #294) » Fri Jan 20, 2017 2:03 am

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UNVOTE:
I'm just gonna not do anything today and pretend I replaced in tomorrow. Hopefully more kills go through to make sorting slots easier tbh.

I'll vote wherever Creature, RB, Uzi and Titus tell me to. I'd add Severa to the list, but I'm not as sure.
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Post Post #3708 (isolation #295) » Fri Jan 20, 2017 5:54 am

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The great thing about hugs is that you can't get one without also giving one.
/hug
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Post Post #3713 (isolation #296) » Fri Jan 20, 2017 7:24 am

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>new
In post 3710, Alisae wrote:Yay!
/me tacklehugs HS
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Post Post #3717 (isolation #297) » Fri Jan 20, 2017 8:08 am

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In post 3714, Alisae wrote:I wub my HS more tho.
Using possessive pronouns to refer to me is probably a very bad idea unless you really know what you're doing.

@zach I was at a coworkers house the other night, we're all chefs and we all work in the kitchen. He's indonesian and he's a fucking legend tbh. But he was like 'No no no don't worry my friends I will cook you all dinner' and he spent four minutes in the kitchen and came out with four bowls of fucking packaged mi goreng (cooked of course).
We all started rolling on the floor laughing, we weren't offended but it was just so absolutely unthought of, even though it makes absolute sense for that person in particular to do it.
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Post Post #3720 (isolation #298) » Fri Jan 20, 2017 8:22 am

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w-what
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Post Post #3724 (isolation #299) » Fri Jan 20, 2017 8:30 am

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In post 3721, Zachstralkita wrote:aren't your local flora/fauna extremely dangerous and scary
oh yeah the australia meme
i mean yeah kinda, but you really gotta go looking for it
sometimes you get massive schpoiders indoors but it's whatever

on the other hand, our reputation as shitposters is 100% accurate

i'm sure rb can back me up on both points

shut up dunn you've dunn very little except fuck with me this game </3
put something in front of me and i'll react to it and tell you my thoughts, i can't fuggin do it by myself lad. i'm reactionary
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Post Post #3725 (isolation #300) » Fri Jan 20, 2017 8:32 am

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In post 3718, Dunnstral wrote:
In post 3717, Human Sequencer wrote:Using possessive pronouns to refer to me is probably a very bad idea unless you really know what you're doing.
Image
wow dunns just fluffing up the game, wish he'd contriboot :^)
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Post Post #3743 (isolation #301) » Sat Jan 21, 2017 1:22 am

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In post 3727, Alisae wrote:HS I know but you seem so cute and adorable hehe
I wonder if Alisae really knows what they're doing.
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Post Post #3759 (isolation #302) » Sat Jan 21, 2017 7:57 am

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Ircher's town lads, no way are we lynchin that.
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Post Post #3761 (isolation #303) » Sat Jan 21, 2017 8:01 am

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I'll concede that Creature isn't gamesolving, but I'll also concede that I think he's probably town anyway.
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Post Post #3864 (isolation #304) » Sat Jan 21, 2017 4:40 pm

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just skimming in my hour i have when i wake up before work
good to know mort is conftown just like ircher was
In post 3793, drealmerz7 wrote:severa that focus on the wagon numbers at this point is extremely suspect to me

you should be voting for who you think is most likely scum and encouraging others to do the same
this is fucking abysmal how does everybody townread this
VOTE: dreamer
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Post Post #3887 (isolation #305) » Sun Jan 22, 2017 1:23 am

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i'm so fucking glad mort is here aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
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Post Post #3928 (isolation #306) » Sun Jan 22, 2017 5:46 am

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I'm getting so much conflicting information from every source and I have no idea what to do about it all.

I blame Dunn tbh.
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Post Post #3929 (isolation #307) » Sun Jan 22, 2017 5:50 am

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For instance, I scumread Wraith for slipping multiball. Then he posts towny as fuck, so I get confused and ignore the slot. Then he posts fake as fuck posturing. But they're all isolated and I can't get anything concrete down on them because they all contradict.

Nobody scumreads Dreamer so like what the fuck is going on there.

Slick is still the leading wagon despite my pretty strong townread (one of the only things I'm confident in really, he was scummy and now he's towny). Many competent players have scumread him. Are they all scum or what?

No fucking idea what's going on with Alisae. No fucking idea what's going on with Kyouko. I townread All Alone, but Mort doesn't and like half the playerlist has scumread him before. I just don't get it, am I being pranked?
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Post Post #3930 (isolation #308) » Sun Jan 22, 2017 5:51 am

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I miss the confidence I had in my reads 120 pages ago, before I had to start questioning everything because I was wrong on half of it. I blame dunn tbh.
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Post Post #3934 (isolation #309) » Sun Jan 22, 2017 6:05 am

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In post 510, Human Sequencer wrote:
Alright I hope I'm not the only one who saw this. Wraith intends to imply that Debi is scum, because they have a foreknowledge of the setup (how many scum there are), and then pushes that it's multiball. Correct me if I'm wrong, but if it's multiball, surely scum aren't informed how many other teams there are or how many scum are on those teams, so how would Debi have that foreknowledge? I would waive this as Wraith just making a mistake if he didn't pull the multiball assumption out of his ass-- That implies to me that -he- knows it's multiball. 'Foreknowledge of the setup'.
Debi wasn't even being that serious with the 9/10 split, she said the following:
Debi wrote:So just for the sake of it, lets say we had 10 towns in this game, and 9 scum, it is unlikely but go with it.
And beyond that never even implied that they believed there was multiball. Really suss, strongest scumread as of this post.
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Post Post #3953 (isolation #310) » Sun Jan 22, 2017 6:41 am

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Why?
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Post Post #3955 (isolation #311) » Sun Jan 22, 2017 6:48 am

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At the ISO, I mean.
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Post Post #3959 (isolation #312) » Sun Jan 22, 2017 6:57 am

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I think that'd be time better spent ISOing other players, to be honest.
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Post Post #3961 (isolation #313) » Sun Jan 22, 2017 7:01 am

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idk. Any slot you don't have a good read on.

Personally I would absolutely love for you to go through Wraith and/or Dunnstral because they're driving me up the wall.

FWIW, I don't scumread Creature any more.
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Post Post #3963 (isolation #314) » Sun Jan 22, 2017 7:09 am

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I'm sorry but this game has so many slots and has me me in such a state as to where I can't keep knowledge like that in my head, and I don't tend to use anything except my own posts as a reference to my thoughts RE:Excel or other notetaking programs.

I definitely don't recall any strong or convincing cases on him.
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Post Post #3966 (isolation #315) » Sun Jan 22, 2017 7:16 am

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Dreamer can you please just fucking not?
Regardless of your play in this game, your existence as a lightning rod for negative energy is incredibly disheartening and it's not the kind of bullshit any of us need in our lives.
If you're doing this intentionally as a ploy to kill the game as scum, I'm going to be even more irate because that's a straight up horrible thing to do.
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Post Post #3976 (isolation #316) » Sun Jan 22, 2017 7:31 am

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In post 3967, drealmerz7 wrote:uhh, it's a fucking game, get over it

I speak the truth, albeit harshly, if you can't handle it, get out of mafia

I did not create this gamestate

I'm simply a result of it, maybe if you'd lynch the true shit-negative aspects of this game, I wouldn't be like this

your attitude has been continuously horrible towards me HS, and that post is no different

go whine to your mommy
The post of a literal ten year old.
'I am responsible for nothing, it's everybody's fault but mine, if you don't like it it's your fault, go away'
Grow up.

isn't the kind of post an 'empath' makes. It's the kind of post somebody makes when they create negativity within themselves and decide to use it to discredit, damage and drag down another human being for no reason whatsoever.
Mort made a human mistake that was literally nothing at all and said vocally 'I gotta do that thing'. You jumped on board and said 'Yeah you're shit meaningless if you don't do that thing omfgdude holyfuck'.
You're such an 'empath'! You're not negative at all!

I don't want to shit up the thread with this. I'm not that mad at you, I just really want you to stop being so hateful. It kills the game for everybody, and we're all supposed to be having fun. I take responsibility for the gamestate. You should too.
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Post Post #3978 (isolation #317) » Sun Jan 22, 2017 7:36 am

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You come from fighting games though, so you're 110% immune to it :P

You're also just an all around stellar dude, so
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Post Post #3981 (isolation #318) » Sun Jan 22, 2017 7:39 am

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I engaged you because I thought you were scum.

Sell me on alisae and I'll consider it.
I'm confused on the slot and all I want is sound logic.
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Post Post #3984 (isolation #319) » Sun Jan 22, 2017 7:44 am

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tl;dr You're frustrated 18 people don't agree with you.
That's outside of your control.
If you think the lynch is so obvious, push it, and sell us on it. Tell me why I should lynch Alisae. Obviously I'm a complete fucking idiot who didn't pick up on why by myself. So fix that.
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Post Post #3985 (isolation #320) » Sun Jan 22, 2017 7:45 am

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So do you want a policy lynch because you think Alisae is detrimental to the game, or do you actually think they're scum?
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Post Post #3993 (isolation #321) » Sun Jan 22, 2017 7:52 am

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But if we lynch all of the anti-town players then we'll run out of lynches to actually hit scum. Your reasoning is flawed.
I don't care if you call me incompetent, I don't care if you call me an idiot, I don't care if you say I have shit attitude. Your reasoning is flawed.

Besides that, you're criticizing Alisae for anti-town spammy play, whereas you literally just posted 7 posts in a row. You have in fact the second most posts in the game.

Dreamer is town.
UNVOTE:
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Post Post #3996 (isolation #322) » Sun Jan 22, 2017 7:56 am

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Alisae, read on Mort?
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Post Post #4000 (isolation #323) » Sun Jan 22, 2017 7:59 am

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So this is your best towngame?
If so, you need to step it up, because your towngame so far is abysmal.
I'm not claiming to be great myself. Just know that you're in no position to judge.

Please stop double/triple posting. Try and condense your thoughts more. It creates a better thread for townies to read through, and scum can use your current tactics to shit up the thread killing the game and creating town apathy.

Alisae, tell me why?
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Post Post #4004 (isolation #324) » Sun Jan 22, 2017 8:06 am

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@Dreamer I haven't bothered to pick that apart because Ircher was obvtown and Mort has been pretty obvtown.

@Alisae Did you townread Ircher before? If so, why?
What posts from Dreamer ping you as scum, and what posts from Dreamer ping you as town?
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Post Post #4009 (isolation #325) » Sun Jan 22, 2017 8:13 am

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@dreal Can you link me to where Ircher expressed that opinion, and to what you think contradicts that opinion?
Perhaps there was another reason he was scumreading you, or perhaps he was being intellectually lazy.

What do you think the points Uzi and I have discussed on Ircher, linked below?
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Post Post #4015 (isolation #326) » Sun Jan 22, 2017 8:24 am

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Are Titus and Severa the same person, or am I being punk'd?
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Post Post #4018 (isolation #327) » Sun Jan 22, 2017 8:28 am

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I've refocused a little.

Wraith, Kyouko and Echo is my scumpool. All three have done very towny things and I recognize that, but they're the only ones I really have basis for scumreading. I should trust myself more and not get as paranoid.

VOTE: Wraith
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Post Post #4022 (isolation #328) » Sun Jan 22, 2017 8:34 am

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tl;dr I got confused and worried but it's ok now.

dreal, your play in ttyl is notably different from your play here. I don't think your Ircher scumread stands up.
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Post Post #4025 (isolation #329) » Sun Jan 22, 2017 8:37 am

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In post 4005, drealmerz7 wrote: my issue with ircher not being town is that he just modded a game where I was scum, and so I have no idea where his scum-read on me is coming from, I'm totally different here and he should have some insight into my scumgame to see that that's not what I have going on here
This was your scumread on Ircher. I don't think it stands up to scrutiny.
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Post Post #4028 (isolation #330) » Sun Jan 22, 2017 8:40 am

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In post 510, Human Sequencer wrote:
Alright I hope I'm not the only one who saw this. Wraith intends to imply that Debi is scum, because they have a foreknowledge of the setup (how many scum there are), and then pushes that it's multiball. Correct me if I'm wrong, but if it's multiball, surely scum aren't informed how many other teams there are or how many scum are on those teams, so how would Debi have that foreknowledge? I would waive this as Wraith just making a mistake if he didn't pull the multiball assumption out of his ass-- That implies to me that -he- knows it's multiball. 'Foreknowledge of the setup'.
Debi wasn't even being that serious with the 9/10 split, she said the following:
Debi wrote:So just for the sake of it, lets say we had 10 towns in this game, and 9 scum, it is unlikely but go with it.
And beyond that never even implied that they believed there was multiball. Really suss, strongest scumread as of this post.
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Post Post #4030 (isolation #331) » Sun Jan 22, 2017 8:43 am

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Oh, I thought you were town in that game. Why did you mention Ircher praising your play then, when it seems like his comment seems to be directed at your townplay?
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Post Post #4035 (isolation #332) » Sun Jan 22, 2017 8:51 am

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In post 4033, drealmerz7 wrote: I was figuring it likely multi-ball from signups...
How?
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Post Post #4280 (isolation #333) » Sun Jan 22, 2017 4:31 pm

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In post 4110, Alisae wrote:Hey RC, where is my vote right now?
Underrated post
In post 4270, rb wrote:drealmerz, how's being a hated nerd since elementary school treating you?
rbbbbbb

btw sry ur wrong on dreal, he's town
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Post Post #4298 (isolation #334) » Mon Jan 23, 2017 12:56 am

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All alone is town. I don't remember who was scumreading him, but I don't think they're correct.
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Post Post #4304 (isolation #335) » Mon Jan 23, 2017 5:24 am

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Interesting, coming from you. :X
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Post Post #4305 (isolation #336) » Mon Jan 23, 2017 5:25 am

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Disclaimer: Little drunk.

Uzi, game can't have 3 scumteams, normal game multiball is 2 scumteams max.
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Post Post #4310 (isolation #337) » Mon Jan 23, 2017 6:14 am

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CREATURE if you were cop who would you shoot, and if you were vig who would you investigate
MORT, what is your name? What's your favorite colour?
UZI, explain how great your avatar is please?
RB, AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
ZACH stop comfusing me plzzz?
DUNN as well
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Post Post #4314 (isolation #338) » Mon Jan 23, 2017 8:46 am

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Wow, I've never known a Keaton and that's a spectacular answer to the question 'what is your favorite colour'.

Zach idk how to read you and it's mildly annoying me but I'm getting better w/ it.
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Post Post #4416 (isolation #339) » Tue Jan 24, 2017 1:08 am

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Kyouko is spectacularly scummy.
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Post Post #4417 (isolation #340) » Tue Jan 24, 2017 1:08 am

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Wraith lynch is better tho.
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Post Post #4707 (isolation #341) » Tue Jan 24, 2017 9:26 pm

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After that vig claim, I have questions for Creature. Hopefully he'll answer them without me having to put them in the thread.
In post 4509, MortFeld wrote:Reminds me of 1848 @hs @luv

I want to work out Rebbe Kyouko stuff before anything else.
This game is no where near as hellish as 1848 was. This is at least an actual mafia game with the majority of the playerlist actually playing the game.


Reads fake as fuck. I think Echo is going for the derpclear here.


Fake as fuck. Echo might know what happened to one of the nightkills last night. It would explain his overreaction.

@SSBM/Mort on BP
I agree, I think I know who the BP is, don't share it tho.
I wasn't gonna mention it, but I assume scum got tricked into losing their nightkill. I don't doubt that two scum nightkills didn't go through, especially after having a fair idea how one of them was lost. This gives credence to Rebbe's claim, and I don't see any reason to disbelieve it.
In post 4580, ssbm_Kyouko wrote:If the vigi claim is real then Tex blocked the blue killer and the red killer shot ircher and hit his BP
wot lmao, Ircher/Mort BP?

I get the feeling Severa is faking Gunsmith, but I get the feeling they're town.
I also get the feeling that if Severa was sure enough to fake a gunsmith result on Wraith, they're probably right.

http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... 9#p8767839
You don't townread me, therefore your reads are shit </3
Nah but really, I actually agree 110% with these reads, except AA and Alisae. Still coming around on Echo.

Dreal is being Dreal, I guess. Funny he jumps on Severa for saying 'I wouldn't mind lynching town!dreal' when that's the exact same position he has on Alisae. Slot needs to die.
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Post Post #4716 (isolation #342) » Tue Jan 24, 2017 9:41 pm

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@Uzi
In post 4480, Severa wrote:It's not a soft and if I was softing my result would be pretty fucking obvious.
This reads like a meta-soft tbh, can you see that?
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Post Post #4717 (isolation #343) » Tue Jan 24, 2017 9:44 pm

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I still love you Uzi, I just don't understand the Creature push whatsoever.
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Post Post #4729 (isolation #344) » Tue Jan 24, 2017 10:13 pm

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Creature, why would scumRebbe claim here? Further, why would scumRebbe claim the texcat kill, putting a massive target on his back if the other scumteam can figure out he's scum?
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Post Post #4733 (isolation #345) » Tue Jan 24, 2017 10:15 pm

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So if you buy his claim, why is he town "Just" for Debi?
You didn't forget to include the vig claim, you very definitively said that's not why you townread him.
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Post Post #4738 (isolation #346) » Tue Jan 24, 2017 10:30 pm

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OK Uzi maybe I can understand the Creature push.
There's like thirty people i'd lynch before Creature tho.
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Post Post #4752 (isolation #347) » Tue Jan 24, 2017 11:37 pm

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I cannot believe people are treating Creature lynch as a possibility.
Can we please lynch one of the far scummier slots like Wraith/Kyouko.
Creature is not a priority.
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Post Post #4757 (isolation #348) » Tue Jan 24, 2017 11:45 pm

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In post 4754, Severa wrote:Wraith team is Echo/Wraith, both 100% scum.

Drealmerz is trying to push shitlynches and may be scum with either faction.
SSBM_Kyouko is trying to push shitlynches but reads to me as not!scumwithWraith.
My townread on Zachstralkita is absolutely dead.
All people we need to lynch or at least fucking consider before Creature.
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Post Post #4771 (isolation #349) » Wed Jan 25, 2017 12:21 am

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In post 4769, Dunnstral wrote:are you faking a guilty to push your agenda or no?
Severa never implied this, I assumed it might be the case. You're latching on to that, why?
Why'd you ask that question, why does it matter? Do you believe she's scum pushing a mislynch?
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Post Post #4775 (isolation #350) » Wed Jan 25, 2017 12:22 am

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Stop trying to confuse me.
Do you think Severa is scum trying to push a mislynch?
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Post Post #4780 (isolation #351) » Wed Jan 25, 2017 12:25 am

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You know I'm weak to people following the same logical flow I do. Are you using that to your advantage?
I really don't like 4769.
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Post Post #4785 (isolation #352) » Wed Jan 25, 2017 12:30 am

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I'm not pushing your slot, I'm sorting your slot. I don't want you lynched today.
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Post Post #4791 (isolation #353) » Wed Jan 25, 2017 12:36 am

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In post 4613, Zachstralkita wrote:I mean, are you forgetting we already have a vig claim dreal?

We have two cut and dry options depending on this flip.


I've been opposed against this lynch, but I'm not
that
dumb. Either Wraith flips scum or he flips town and then Severa dies. Alternatively Wraith can be scum and Severa opp faction but I townread Pine's slot.

Plus, Severa seems like he would claim a guilty out of spite, but I don't think he's doing it here. Either Wraith or Slick were dying today as much as I hate to admit it.


motivation to claim gs on Wraith is???

- Is Dunnstral


- Kill the town pr with gun because rc is scum
rebbe, and i townread that slot. we dont have 2 fucking vigs

- Kill town wraith for whatever reason because rc is scum
rc dies next

- Kill town wraith because RC thinks his read is right
I'd be admittedly biased to come to this conclusion...

- Kill scum wraith because RC thinks his read is right
He doesn't need to expend his energy

- Kill scum wraith because RC has a real guilty



And I read Pine's posts come day start and he doesn't really mention Wraith slot. Possibly because he was unsure if the guilty was scum if that lines up


So am I missing something?
What changed?

@Dunn
I'm thinking out loud.
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Post Post #4793 (isolation #354) » Wed Jan 25, 2017 12:37 am

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Nothing changed, I misread. Ignore that, Zach.
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Post Post #4795 (isolation #355) » Wed Jan 25, 2017 12:39 am

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Your point?

Your point?
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Post Post #4820 (isolation #356) » Wed Jan 25, 2017 4:10 am

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I really want to doubt this claim, but I'm scared of history repeating itself RE:Chaos RE:Gin.

Cop+Gunsmith is unlikely, either Severa is lying or Wraith is scum because I highly doubt Severa is scum.
In post 4810, Wraith wrote:There's an equal possibility that Severa is scum or town and just has stupendously hard confirmation bias.
This doesn't leave space for Severa to be town with a legitimate guilty on you, because cops ping gunsmith invests. Any particular reason you omitted that?
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Post Post #4821 (isolation #357) » Wed Jan 25, 2017 4:10 am

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Why did you out creature? I'm doubting that hard recently, I'm guessing you picked up on the same crumb I did.
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Post Post #4824 (isolation #358) » Wed Jan 25, 2017 4:14 am

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In post 4818, Wraith wrote: Creature likely the real Vig.
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Post Post #4829 (isolation #359) » Wed Jan 25, 2017 4:25 am

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Don't know why you two are caught up on that, I'm busy thinking about literally everything else about his claim. Investing Titus makes perfect sense to me, though I'd probably go Dunn or Zach myself tbh.

Severa, if you're faking gunsmith, now would be a great time to out that.
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Post Post #4834 (isolation #360) » Wed Jan 25, 2017 5:27 am

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sells it for me. If this is a bullshit claim, I think it's one Wraith pulled out of his ass at L-1, not one he planned out in advance.

It also neatly truncates his read on Kyouko in a way that makes a lot of sense to me.

UNVOTE:
I need to talk to some people to get another good read going.
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Post Post #4837 (isolation #361) » Wed Jan 25, 2017 5:38 am

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You are very clearly incorrect on Severa, not only because of my read on Severa but my read on how you came to scumread Severa.
That's a vanity wagon if I ever saw one, boys.

I'm gonna go here.
VOTE: Creature
Your scumgame evolved momentarily, but it's fallen apart again. Points for effort.
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Post Post #4839 (isolation #362) » Wed Jan 25, 2017 5:47 am

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A lot of what I thought was scumCreature when I first replaced in can be explained by prCreature, but I doubt he's actually vig with the way he's been acting about it recently. His play is really off, and I need to give him a closer look, sure. But his last few posts pinged me hard.
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Post Post #4841 (isolation #363) » Wed Jan 25, 2017 5:52 am

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Why did you give no doubt to Gin's claim then?
Why did you soft so early?
Why do you give no doubt to Rebbe's claim? In fact, you townread them.
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Post Post #4843 (isolation #364) » Wed Jan 25, 2017 5:57 am

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With TWO SCUMTEAMS and ONE NIGHTKILL?
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Post Post #4845 (isolation #365) » Wed Jan 25, 2017 6:04 am

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You're a prime target for the nightkill now that this possibility has been bought to light, so what do you gain from keeping it ambiguous now?

The only answer I can see is scum keeping their options open.
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Post Post #4849 (isolation #366) » Wed Jan 25, 2017 6:19 am

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I did a quick skim of your wiki and didn't find a single game where you've faked a role to draw an NK as VT. It doesn't strike me as the kind of play you'd pull.
Can you link me to a game or more where you've done it?
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Post Post #4852 (isolation #367) » Wed Jan 25, 2017 6:22 am

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So tell me how you buy into vigRebbe when you know you're a vig AND you know there's two other killing forces in the game AND you know you didn't shoot texcat?
I don't buy it. Sell it to me.
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Post Post #4855 (isolation #368) » Wed Jan 25, 2017 6:24 am

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Deadline being three days is only a problem if town keeps being intellectually lazy and lurks.

I've got a lot of slots I'm willing to jump on if a wagon picks up, Severa is definitely not one of them.
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Post Post #4856 (isolation #369) » Wed Jan 25, 2017 6:24 am

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In post 4853, Creature wrote:Assuming you're scumreading Severa, would you let Severa claim more results or just straight lynch him?
Probably straight lynch them, like I did with Gin.
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Post Post #4857 (isolation #370) » Wed Jan 25, 2017 6:26 am

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You being vig goes back to your actions earlier being justifiable, but it leaves a few questions with how you interacted with other slots.
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Post Post #4864 (isolation #371) » Wed Jan 25, 2017 6:44 am

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SSBM is better.

VOTE: Kyouko
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Post Post #4868 (isolation #372) » Wed Jan 25, 2017 6:57 am

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wot
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Post Post #4870 (isolation #373) » Wed Jan 25, 2017 7:00 am

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Well that makes perfect sense.
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Post Post #4872 (isolation #374) » Wed Jan 25, 2017 7:01 am

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Cops get a guilty from gunsmiths.

I've also stated reason to believe that Severa is VT faking gunsmith, but I'm not entirely confident in that, I'm just spitballing there.
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Post Post #4879 (isolation #375) » Wed Jan 25, 2017 7:49 am

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Read more, friend.
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Post Post #4883 (isolation #376) » Wed Jan 25, 2017 7:51 am

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Rebbe, Mort, Uzi, Titus, Severa, RB. All slots I'm very confident wrt towniness.

Wew. I feel a lot better about this game now.
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Post Post #4893 (isolation #377) » Wed Jan 25, 2017 8:09 am

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In post 4887, ssbm_Kyouko wrote:
In post 4797, Dunnstral wrote:I was just thinking out loud
I had a giggle when I read this exchange
lmao i found it pretty funny myself

Alisae please read moar
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Post Post #4895 (isolation #378) » Wed Jan 25, 2017 8:14 am

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You talk so much, yet listen so little.

The more you read, the more helpful you'll be when you write.
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Post Post #4897 (isolation #379) » Wed Jan 25, 2017 8:19 am

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:facepalm:
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Post Post #4902 (isolation #380) » Wed Jan 25, 2017 8:25 am

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Post Post #4904 (isolation #381) » Wed Jan 25, 2017 8:26 am

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Post Post #4914 (isolation #382) » Wed Jan 25, 2017 8:31 am

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Severa, Wraith listed Titus as 'Deftown' in , a slot he'd barely mentioned at all earlier.
I don't see any reason he'd do that as scum, unless he was planning for this particular claim in advance, which I don't believe is the case.
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Post Post #4915 (isolation #383) » Wed Jan 25, 2017 8:31 am

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In post 4913, The Rebbe wrote:VOTE: Wraith

I'll take care of either echo or ssbm tonight.
Are you saying you're full vig?
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Post Post #4919 (isolation #384) » Wed Jan 25, 2017 8:33 am

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Oh dear.
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Post Post #4920 (isolation #385) » Wed Jan 25, 2017 8:33 am

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Well I guess that doesn't really break much, Creature could still just be half vig I guess.
Hum. Something to think about.
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Post Post #4922 (isolation #386) » Wed Jan 25, 2017 8:35 am

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Holy fucking shit guys please read the thread.
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Post Post #4925 (isolation #387) » Wed Jan 25, 2017 8:36 am

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In post 4895, Human Sequencer wrote: The more you read, the more helpful you'll be when you write.
Everybody should be fully aware of the gamestate as they post. Town fails when townies post whatever they think without logically weighing it against the full reality of the situation. Don't play with hope just hoping you're right because whatever you're saying sounds right in your head in that particular moment.

This is addressed to nobody in particular.
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Post Post #4926 (isolation #388) » Wed Jan 25, 2017 8:37 am

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In post 4923, Severa wrote:One of you should shoot SSBM, the other should shoot Drealmerz7, we'll lynch Echovision tomorrow.
Great post.
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Post Post #4928 (isolation #389) » Wed Jan 25, 2017 8:38 am

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In post 4922, Human Sequencer wrote:Holy fucking shit guys please read the thread.
I wish I could delete this post because I'm retarded...
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Post Post #4929 (isolation #390) » Wed Jan 25, 2017 8:38 am

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oshit i used the word again
sorry about that
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Post Post #4932 (isolation #391) » Wed Jan 25, 2017 8:39 am

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How about you just shoot Dreal/SSBM like Severa said?
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Post Post #4937 (isolation #392) » Wed Jan 25, 2017 8:43 am

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Everything Severa has said makes perfect sense to me, well except for the deep tunnel she's in wrt you.
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Post Post #4943 (isolation #393) » Wed Jan 25, 2017 8:49 am

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Severa, please read my post earlier about Titus invest.
There's no way he just pulled a gun claim out of his ass with that Titus read.
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Post Post #4947 (isolation #394) » Wed Jan 25, 2017 8:50 am

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Also, I'm pretty sure gunsmith+cop is viable considering that cop is one of the things that kinda enables gunsmith's existence as a role lmao.
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Post Post #4950 (isolation #395) » Wed Jan 25, 2017 8:51 am

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Now you're just being unpleasant and spiteful tbh.
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Post Post #4955 (isolation #396) » Wed Jan 25, 2017 8:53 am

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I recommend taking a break from this thread to calm yourself, and then coming back to address how my logic on post is flawed.
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Post Post #4963 (isolation #397) » Wed Jan 25, 2017 8:56 am

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I'd really prefer kyouko tbh. Sell me on echo?
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Post Post #4974 (isolation #398) » Wed Jan 25, 2017 9:02 am

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I believe Severa is just a very, very desperate VT. I got fakeclaim pings from her last claim (I was right) and I'm getting them again.
I'm sorry, I just don't agree.
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Post Post #4980 (isolation #399) » Wed Jan 25, 2017 9:05 am

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Except the obvious Wraith crumb is right fucking there and I've been trying to show it to you for ages.
You are so tunnel visioned you are literally making shit up.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Deg7VrpHbM

Mort, Severa can't be anything but VT. I just don't see it.
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