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Post Post #1789 (isolation #200) » Mon Jan 09, 2017 4:44 am

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Put me at L-1 please
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Post Post #1791 (isolation #201) » Mon Jan 09, 2017 4:46 am

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Did you just say Creature was scum?
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Post Post #1796 (isolation #202) » Mon Jan 09, 2017 4:58 am

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I'm thinking more ahead of a VCA at this point and who's the most beneficial to have their wagons analyzed.
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Post Post #1799 (isolation #203) » Mon Jan 09, 2017 5:02 am

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You see Creature's avatar? That's exactly what he looks like after you just voted him
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Post Post #1850 (isolation #204) » Mon Jan 09, 2017 5:55 am

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VOTE: Drealzzzzzz

L-doesn't matter at this point
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Post Post #1857 (isolation #205) » Mon Jan 09, 2017 6:04 am

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In post 1855, drealmerz7 wrote:CWing a top SR:

UNVOTE: creature
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btw, that is how I identify you in my brain, "TRGNT", like detergent, but just the tergent
There's an acronym that defines this.
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Post Post #1960 (isolation #206) » Mon Jan 09, 2017 10:00 am

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So, I'd like to set up an informal gladiation between Dreal and I.

With 19 players, we can get 9 players on each wagon as I do think both are at 7/8 right now so this shouldn't be a problem.

I then think that the IC should be the one to decide the hammer so we can get the full effects of Vote Count Analysis as we dont need a vote to find out RB's alignment anymore.
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Post Post #1964 (isolation #207) » Mon Jan 09, 2017 10:22 am

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Every time I do something as town, someone points it out like "That was very towny of you" You're only being town because you're scum trying to fake town.

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Post Post #1966 (isolation #208) » Mon Jan 09, 2017 10:24 am

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In post 1964, TheRealGin-N-Tonic wrote:Every time I do something as town, someone points it out like "That was very towny of you" You're only being town because you're scum trying to fake town.

FML THAT CONFBIAS
This is why I'm advocating my own lynch. It's worth more to be a lesson that if you think something was a town post, it's because it was.
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Post Post #1970 (isolation #209) » Mon Jan 09, 2017 10:34 am

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In post 1967, Zachstralkita wrote:
In post 1964, TheRealGin-N-Tonic wrote:Every time I do something as town, someone points it out like "That was very towny of you" You're only being town because you're scum trying to fake town.

FML THAT CONFBIAS

Was this at me


This is your chance to say no before I consume your soul
I think Echo, HS, AA did it, the most recent was Echo but I can re-read the thread and just mass quote them all in a nice pile
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Post Post #2135 (isolation #210) » Mon Jan 09, 2017 3:57 pm

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Ircher, he voted me after I voted him
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Post Post #2136 (isolation #211) » Mon Jan 09, 2017 3:57 pm

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In post 1855, drealmerz7 wrote:CWing a top SR:

UNVOTE: creature
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btw, that is how I identify you in my brain, "TRGNT", like detergent, but just the tergent
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Post Post #2139 (isolation #212) » Mon Jan 09, 2017 4:05 pm

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In post 2137, Alisae wrote:Is Gin at L-1?
Hold on.
Let me check
VOTE: Gin
In post 2138, Alisae wrote:Yeah that's hammer.
What a fucking joke I wasn't even at L-3

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Post Post #2148 (isolation #213) » Mon Jan 09, 2017 4:21 pm

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We have till Saturday my dude
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Post Post #2163 (isolation #214) » Mon Jan 09, 2017 6:52 pm

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In post 1254, TheRealGin-N-Tonic wrote:It just feels so fake and forced coming from you, believe me there is so much I want to say but I'm trying my hardest to not bias my thoughts and just think about this game.

It just doesn't feel like a genuine accusation to say someone is scum based off of what you perceive as their town or what you think is fake or not. Like reading emotions off of text is based purely out of PoV and I just don't get how you're willing to vote me if the crux of it is saying I sound fake.

I mean I'm getting confused as hell by these votes.

The ones that make sense are Zach, he's made it clear he isn't having my shit and we've argued about it, but then there is Alisae who got me fucked up right now due to me being one of her stronger TRs and then votes me with ease. Right now Human, the problem I have with your vote is as explained above. Another vote that I think is town motivated is AA because when he did push me, he did it logically and I could see that from his perspective, what I was doing looked scummy.
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Post Post #2164 (isolation #215) » Mon Jan 09, 2017 6:52 pm

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HA, wrong quote brb
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Post Post #2165 (isolation #216) » Mon Jan 09, 2017 6:55 pm

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In post 1027, All Alone wrote:
In post 1010, TheRealGin-N-Tonic wrote:If AA was a good player, or town, he'd be able to deduce that I thought Alisae was town after I "reread." Ya know, the part where I said I reread it.
This is
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the kind of non-answer I give out when I'm scum and someone catches me giving a bogus read.

Like, YES, obviously I saw the "reread". No duh, Clouseau. But there's still a clear incongruity there:

1) Gin reads the interaction the first time
2) Gin decides Alisae is scummy
3) Gin rereads the interaction
4) ?????
5) NOPE HE'S TOWN NOW

I think if Gin was town, he would have explained step 4 here. When townies backwalk their scumreads, they're usually really, really open about it. What changed? Why? There's not really a good reason to go into teeth-pull mode here, if it's a legitimate reread. But if Gin didn't legitimately reread Alisae, and there is no legitimate step 4, then the best he can do is point to step 3 again and act like that puts him above suspicion. Which is exactly what he did here.
Look at this little shit. His entire fucking vote, and narrative is saying I didn't do anything to explain my town read but open up the spoiler and tell me you dont see my saying what got me thinking Alisae was town.
In post 993, TheRealGin-N-Tonic wrote:Alisae
Spoiler: To Alisae or not to Alisae
Alisae
I'm actually going to say town, on multiple websites she admits to being a shit town and bad at hunting, in the basis that she asks questions about what she thinks is sus makes sense to me but I don't like her relationship to Creature, they almost seem to have the same mindset or like to back each other.

Another thing that's got me a tickled town read is the fact that she voted me for saying scum have day chat. Just that entire interaction screamed town to me reading back.

Fuck that bullshit misrep and continued push of a false narrative

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Post Post #2169 (isolation #217) » Mon Jan 09, 2017 7:01 pm

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I don't see what connection you're making there?
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Post Post #2174 (isolation #218) » Mon Jan 09, 2017 7:19 pm

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I see a future VCA hunter in you, however VCA isn't useful until there have been a lot of flips and you can start to color code them to find patterns.
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Post Post #2177 (isolation #219) » Mon Jan 09, 2017 7:22 pm

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In post 2175, Alisae wrote:Actually let's do this instead

Titus, Texcat, Wraith, Pine, Gin, Kyouko, Ircher, Drealmerz
what is your read on the other person listed beside ywall?
Who this at?
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Post Post #2181 (isolation #220) » Mon Jan 09, 2017 7:28 pm

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I'm not focusing on anyone else right now but All Alone, anyone else is distracting.
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Post Post #2183 (isolation #221) » Mon Jan 09, 2017 7:32 pm

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you scum read me so you come to that conclusion?
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Post Post #2189 (isolation #222) » Mon Jan 09, 2017 7:43 pm

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I voted, and why I encourage a vote towards AA is for the following reasons:

He has 16 posts in total in which, we can break down fairly simple.
Starting off, the first 5 posts were naked votes and the 6th vote was a fake "town frustration" reaction by saying on D1 he doesn't know where to put his vote, thus frustrated does not make sense on D1 and this isn't his first game either.

In his post 1001, AA goes on to say my read on Alisae as town was the only with depth to it. "This is Gin's only townread with any depth to it" (Post 1001, All Alone). Therefore, All Alone has stated that I have reasoning to town read Alisae.

Then in post 1027, AA goes on to say I never explained why I town read Alisae. This is a direct contradiction to his earlier push and shows that All Alone has changed his narrative to fit his push; some of which involves misrepresenting to get it through.

As for the rest of his posts, you'll also been keen to notice that I have been the only player he ever talks about. I've been the main contender for the lynch right now, and I can only see Scum!All Alone pushing a lynch on one player.

There is no room for town!All Alone to be tunneling one player and never interacting with anyone else.

That ladies and gentlemen is a case worth voting for.
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Post Post #2192 (isolation #223) » Mon Jan 09, 2017 7:47 pm

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If you ISO All Alone, you can see my play by play on how exactly what I said was true.
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Post Post #2194 (isolation #224) » Mon Jan 09, 2017 7:52 pm

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In post 1445, All Alone wrote:I don't understand why people are townreading Gin :(
This post, quite simple really. If a player wanted player X dead, then there is reasoning behind it, he would look at the posts people town read and say why they have scummy connotations to them. However he hasn't done any of that, just a prodge statement in actuality because this is the only thing he said for 400 posts.
In post 1745, All Alone wrote:I see Gin found a way to get back on the Alisae lynch after hard defending him, without ever having explained the townread like he promised

in other news, Gin is scum
300 posts later and he brings up a point that I just pointed out was a contradiction within himself.
In post 1758, All Alone wrote:If Gin genuinely believed Alisae needed to be a policy lynch, he wouldn't have hard defended him and then waited until they were both lynch candidates to bring it up. That is survivalistic play.
This is the only post I can respond to in about 2-3 days but after I'm allowed to speak and say the reasons as to why I demanded a policy lynch, it'll make sense and render this argument invalid.

Thus, we again conclude that All Alone is scum based off of all this.
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Post Post #2196 (isolation #225) » Mon Jan 09, 2017 7:57 pm

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Don't ignore this
In post 2189, TheRealGin-N-Tonic wrote:I voted, and why I encourage a vote towards AA is for the following reasons:

He has 16 posts in total in which, we can break down fairly simple.
Starting off, the first 5 posts were naked votes and the 6th vote was a fake "town frustration" reaction by saying on D1 he doesn't know where to put his vote, thus frustrated does not make sense on D1 and this isn't his first game either.

In his post 1001, AA goes on to say my read on Alisae as town was the only with depth to it. "This is Gin's only townread with any depth to it" (Post 1001, All Alone). Therefore, All Alone has stated that I have reasoning to town read Alisae.

Then in post 1027, AA goes on to say I never explained why I town read Alisae. This is a direct contradiction to his earlier push and shows that All Alone has changed his narrative to fit his push; some of which involves misrepresenting to get it through.

As for the rest of his posts, you'll also been keen to notice that I have been the only player he ever talks about. I've been the main contender for the lynch right now, and I can only see Scum!All Alone pushing a lynch on one player.

There is no room for town!All Alone to be tunneling one player and never interacting with anyone else.

That ladies and gentlemen is a case worth voting for.
In post 2194, TheRealGin-N-Tonic wrote:
In post 1445, All Alone wrote:I don't understand why people are townreading Gin :(
This post, quite simple really. If a player wanted player X dead, then there is reasoning behind it, he would look at the posts people town read and say why they have scummy connotations to them. However he hasn't done any of that, just a prodge statement in actuality because this is the only thing he said for 400 posts.
In post 1745, All Alone wrote:I see Gin found a way to get back on the Alisae lynch after hard defending him, without ever having explained the townread like he promised

in other news, Gin is scum
300 posts later and he brings up a point that I just pointed out was a contradiction within himself.
In post 1758, All Alone wrote:If Gin genuinely believed Alisae needed to be a policy lynch, he wouldn't have hard defended him and then waited until they were both lynch candidates to bring it up. That is survivalistic play.
This is the only post I can respond to in about 2-3 days but after I'm allowed to speak and say the reasons as to why I demanded a policy lynch, it'll make sense and render this argument invalid.

Thus, we again conclude that All Alone is scum based off of all this.
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Post Post #2197 (isolation #226) » Mon Jan 09, 2017 8:09 pm

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In post 2194, TheRealGin-N-Tonic wrote:This is the only post I can respond to in about 2-3 days but after I'm allowed to speak and say the reasons as to why I demanded a policy lynch, it'll make sense and render this argument invalid.
Well nevermind, I asked for a policy lynch on Alisae because she was in an almost LyLo situation in a game we played together but it's now over and we can talk about it. During that time, it seemed like Alisae was making leaps and stretches with a bunch of reads on town players I couldn't believe what she was doing so I was angry and was supremely afraid of Alisae being in a LyLo situation this game because I was witnessing what Alisae was doing as town during that whole debacle.
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Post Post #2200 (isolation #227) » Mon Jan 09, 2017 8:12 pm

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Oh yeah no doubt, I actually did like your theory on lynching Gamma lol
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Post Post #2203 (isolation #228) » Mon Jan 09, 2017 8:19 pm

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Soooooooooooooooo, back to All Alone. Is there any particular reason you don't find this case worthy of a vote?
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Post Post #2206 (isolation #229) » Mon Jan 09, 2017 8:21 pm

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I'm going to sleep cuz I'm waking up in 6 hours but if you could quickly sell me Texcat so I could sleep on it, I'd be happy to oblige
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Post Post #2231 (isolation #230) » Tue Jan 10, 2017 2:33 am

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In post 2229, Human Sequencer wrote:gin, please link me to any game on any site where you've ever believed in a scumtell based on activity and/or timestamps
Maybe the last game we played together with a town victory?
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Post Post #2232 (isolation #231) » Tue Jan 10, 2017 2:34 am

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Also, I don't care how much you think All Alone is town, please realize as soon as I put a vote on him, he decided to become active, defend a little, and then push me some more.


SERIOUSLY THIS CAN'T BE EASIER.
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Post Post #2233 (isolation #232) » Tue Jan 10, 2017 2:37 am

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Also, I've outlined my case, stated it pretty clearly. I'm not getting into a wall war with All Alone because it will do nothing but create noise. He's scum end of story.
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Post Post #2235 (isolation #233) » Tue Jan 10, 2017 2:46 am

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This is your last chance to actually be town before I align you with him.

You want to rethink what you're saying?
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Post Post #2239 (isolation #234) » Tue Jan 10, 2017 2:54 am

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In post 2196, TheRealGin-N-Tonic wrote:Don't ignore this
In post 2189, TheRealGin-N-Tonic wrote:I voted, and why I encourage a vote towards AA is for the following reasons:

He has 16 posts in total in which, we can break down fairly simple.
Starting off, the first 5 posts were naked votes and the 6th vote was a fake "town frustration" reaction by saying on D1 he doesn't know where to put his vote, thus frustrated does not make sense on D1 and this isn't his first game either.

In his post 1001, AA goes on to say my read on Alisae as town was the only with depth to it. "This is Gin's only townread with any depth to it" (Post 1001, All Alone). Therefore, All Alone has stated that I have reasoning to town read Alisae.

Then in post 1027, AA goes on to say I never explained why I town read Alisae. This is a direct contradiction to his earlier push and shows that All Alone has changed his narrative to fit his push; some of which involves misrepresenting to get it through.

As for the rest of his posts, you'll also been keen to notice that I have been the only player he ever talks about. I've been the main contender for the lynch right now, and I can only see Scum!All Alone pushing a lynch on one player.

There is no room for town!All Alone to be tunneling one player and never interacting with anyone else.

That ladies and gentlemen is a case worth voting for.
In post 2194, TheRealGin-N-Tonic wrote:
In post 1445, All Alone wrote:I don't understand why people are townreading Gin :(
This post, quite simple really. If a player wanted player X dead, then there is reasoning behind it, he would look at the posts people town read and say why they have scummy connotations to them. However he hasn't done any of that, just a prodge statement in actuality because this is the only thing he said for 400 posts.
In post 1745, All Alone wrote:I see Gin found a way to get back on the Alisae lynch after hard defending him, without ever having explained the townread like he promised

in other news, Gin is scum
300 posts later and he brings up a point that I just pointed out was a contradiction within himself.
In post 1758, All Alone wrote:If Gin genuinely believed Alisae needed to be a policy lynch, he wouldn't have hard defended him and then waited until they were both lynch candidates to bring it up. That is survivalistic play.
This is the only post I can respond to in about 2-3 days but after I'm allowed to speak and say the reasons as to why I demanded a policy lynch, it'll make sense and render this argument invalid.

Thus, we again conclude that All Alone is scum based off of all this.
The major two posts condemning All Alone. Also why I'm getting a scum lean on you right now.
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In post 46, Asphodel wrote: Self-meta-ing a little bit from my games on the other site,
I very rarely, if ever try to push for my partners to be lynched as scum.
That's for a few reasons. It was a pretty tight-knit group over there, and there was no cardflip in many of the games. Like, over a span of 20 or so scum games, I remember the single time I voted for a scum partner, and even that doesn't really count because my partner made a really terrible counterclaim. That's not to say I never scumread my partners, I just avoided seriously putting my vote on them because 48 hours is not a very long time.
A red flip will be V interesting. I'm confused as to why, as town, you'd be saying that or really anything regarding how you play as red?

I like the conclusion that because there is no day chat, this is his form of telling his partners he won't be pushing them if they get sus.
Asphodel, you should be posting within the next hour or two if you keep up with the same posting pattern and if so, I'd LOVE for you to respond to this
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Out of all people on this thread, YOU were the one last game to give me a town read based on paying attention to things like activity reading.

How you'd so quickly disregard your thoughts when talking to me this game doesn't bode well.
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Post Post #2238 (isolation #235) » Tue Jan 10, 2017 2:54 am

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In post 2196, TheRealGin-N-Tonic wrote:Don't ignore this
In post 2189, TheRealGin-N-Tonic wrote:I voted, and why I encourage a vote towards AA is for the following reasons:

He has 16 posts in total in which, we can break down fairly simple.
Starting off, the first 5 posts were naked votes and the 6th vote was a fake "town frustration" reaction by saying on D1 he doesn't know where to put his vote, thus frustrated does not make sense on D1 and this isn't his first game either.

In his post 1001, AA goes on to say my read on Alisae as town was the only with depth to it. "This is Gin's only townread with any depth to it" (Post 1001, All Alone). Therefore, All Alone has stated that I have reasoning to town read Alisae.

Then in post 1027, AA goes on to say I never explained why I town read Alisae. This is a direct contradiction to his earlier push and shows that All Alone has changed his narrative to fit his push; some of which involves misrepresenting to get it through.

As for the rest of his posts, you'll also been keen to notice that I have been the only player he ever talks about. I've been the main contender for the lynch right now, and I can only see Scum!All Alone pushing a lynch on one player.

There is no room for town!All Alone to be tunneling one player and never interacting with anyone else.

That ladies and gentlemen is a case worth voting for.
In post 2194, TheRealGin-N-Tonic wrote:
In post 1445, All Alone wrote:I don't understand why people are townreading Gin :(
This post, quite simple really. If a player wanted player X dead, then there is reasoning behind it, he would look at the posts people town read and say why they have scummy connotations to them. However he hasn't done any of that, just a prodge statement in actuality because this is the only thing he said for 400 posts.
In post 1745, All Alone wrote:I see Gin found a way to get back on the Alisae lynch after hard defending him, without ever having explained the townread like he promised

in other news, Gin is scum
300 posts later and he brings up a point that I just pointed out was a contradiction within himself.
In post 1758, All Alone wrote:If Gin genuinely believed Alisae needed to be a policy lynch, he wouldn't have hard defended him and then waited until they were both lynch candidates to bring it up. That is survivalistic play.
This is the only post I can respond to in about 2-3 days but after I'm allowed to speak and say the reasons as to why I demanded a policy lynch, it'll make sense and render this argument invalid.

Thus, we again conclude that All Alone is scum based off of all this.
The major two posts condemning All Alone. Also why I'm getting a scum lean on you right now.
In post 976, TheRealGin-N-Tonic wrote:
In post 874, TheRealGin-N-Tonic wrote:
In post 46, Asphodel wrote: Self-meta-ing a little bit from my games on the other site,
I very rarely, if ever try to push for my partners to be lynched as scum.
That's for a few reasons. It was a pretty tight-knit group over there, and there was no cardflip in many of the games. Like, over a span of 20 or so scum games, I remember the single time I voted for a scum partner, and even that doesn't really count because my partner made a really terrible counterclaim. That's not to say I never scumread my partners, I just avoided seriously putting my vote on them because 48 hours is not a very long time.
A red flip will be V interesting. I'm confused as to why, as town, you'd be saying that or really anything regarding how you play as red?

I like the conclusion that because there is no day chat, this is his form of telling his partners he won't be pushing them if they get sus.
Asphodel, you should be posting within the next hour or two if you keep up with the same posting pattern and if so, I'd LOVE for you to respond to this
In post 1063, Human Sequencer wrote:Gin is town on reread and for post 976. I doubt scumGin would care enough to pay attention to anybody's posting patterns, where as a good little townie is very interested in when and where he gets information from.
Out of all people on this thread, YOU were the one last game to give me a town read based on paying attention to things like activity reading.

How you'd so quickly disregard your thoughts when talking to me this game doesn't bode well.
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Post Post #2241 (isolation #236) » Tue Jan 10, 2017 2:56 am

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In post 2240, Zachstralkita wrote:We have guns you little magic sword wielding fucks

AA is the hero we need and the one I deserve


I don't think you guys really deserve him

let's get rid of him then, he needs rope.
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Post Post #2244 (isolation #237) » Tue Jan 10, 2017 3:00 am

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In post 2243, Zachstralkita wrote:Responding only because of a vote on him isn't really scummy it's just reactive play

And when he has appeared it's been good posting so can't fault him for activity



Gin ur basically lock scum lol
I hope to god this isn't your town play.
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Post Post #2247 (isolation #238) » Tue Jan 10, 2017 3:05 am

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HUMAN
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Post Post #2250 (isolation #239) » Tue Jan 10, 2017 3:06 am

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I will only forgive you post game if you're pushing a red coin.
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Post Post #2251 (isolation #240) » Tue Jan 10, 2017 3:06 am

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because that is some fucking horse shit
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Post Post #2254 (isolation #241) » Tue Jan 10, 2017 3:08 am

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I'm just using my vig shot on you, I dont care if I die claiming a power role, you're a worthy shot.
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Post Post #2255 (isolation #242) » Tue Jan 10, 2017 3:10 am

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@Zach
In post 2254, TheRealGin-N-Tonic wrote:I'm just using my vig shot on you, I dont care if I die claiming a power role, you're a worthy shot.
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Post Post #2265 (isolation #243) » Tue Jan 10, 2017 3:16 am

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All Alone, HS, Zach, can't pick a 4th but prolly a lurker.

I'll self hammer at this point but lynch these slots lynched with fire after I'm dead.
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Post Post #2267 (isolation #244) » Tue Jan 10, 2017 3:17 am

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vote me. please for fuck sake
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Post Post #2274 (isolation #245) » Tue Jan 10, 2017 3:20 am

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Creature, it's AA my dude.
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Post Post #2275 (isolation #246) » Tue Jan 10, 2017 3:21 am

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Remember, the those 3 pushers of my lynch, also Echo. Let's end Day 1 please.

VOTE: Gin
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Post Post #2277 (isolation #247) » Tue Jan 10, 2017 3:24 am

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I'm going HS for the Tarhalindur chainsaw, which I suspect will happen with flips in due time.
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Post Post #2278 (isolation #248) » Tue Jan 10, 2017 3:26 am

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Also going HS because my gut tells me, last game I played with HS we went hard talking about my emotions and then 'failed' to remember that conversation when condemning me earlier and then the chainsaw which will only be confirmed after my lynch, then AA's lynch.
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Post Post #2283 (isolation #249) » Tue Jan 10, 2017 3:34 am

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Because you can be voting me which is a scum lead wagon.
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Post Post #2284 (isolation #250) » Tue Jan 10, 2017 3:34 am

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Creature, my words are worth more dead than they are alive at this point.
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Post Post #2287 (isolation #251) » Tue Jan 10, 2017 3:36 am

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I'm at like L-3 dude
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Post Post #2290 (isolation #252) » Tue Jan 10, 2017 3:38 am

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This town is seriously fucked if

A) My lynch is your best lynch
B) Not voting AA after that beautiful case.


Sorry, just moments of severe frustration to the point that reading HS's post literally become a pain to read thinking anyone could think that way.
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Post Post #2293 (isolation #253) » Tue Jan 10, 2017 3:40 am

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rb at this point your reads dont mean shit because every time you say one it ends up being wrong.
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Post Post #2294 (isolation #254) » Tue Jan 10, 2017 3:41 am

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In post 2291, Human Sequencer wrote:incredible heart-wrenching feeling of lynching town vig: invalidated!
looks like we need 3 more votes, guys.
Explain the first sentence please.
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Post Post #2297 (isolation #255) » Tue Jan 10, 2017 3:47 am

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I don't know how I feel about that sentence but at face value it's quite entertaining
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Post Post #2299 (isolation #256) » Tue Jan 10, 2017 3:51 am

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In post 2298, Zachstralkita wrote:Will actually make a 1 post summary of Gin case at home
YAY
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Post Post #2313 (isolation #257) » Tue Jan 10, 2017 5:13 am

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Alisae, are you saying it's scummy to not talk about any other player on the thread?
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Post Post #2317 (isolation #258) » Tue Jan 10, 2017 5:22 am

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In post 2315, Alisae wrote:Gin I don't think Texcat has show any interest in talking about other players besides myself.
So yes it's scummy.
"[Alisae] I don't think [All Alone] has show any interest in talking about other players besides myself.
So yes it's scummy."
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Post Post #2324 (isolation #259) » Tue Jan 10, 2017 5:38 am

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So I'd like the people that have read my case on All Alone tell me why I'm reading into All Alone wrong in his play.

This is my case on All Alone on how he's scum, so let's talk it out because I'm 100% confident that I'm on the right track here; I'm just thinking dissonance is created because we focus more on saying BUT SCUMMMY instead of actually analyzing posts. I've made this case so let's talk it out.

I don't care if by the end result and discussion I end up coming to the conclusion that I'm wrong, it's just that, well I feel like we've been doing a lot of yelling going back and forth saying "you're scum" but" you've been scummy too!" as a baseline for defenses.


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Post Post #2331 (isolation #260) » Tue Jan 10, 2017 10:25 am

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In post 2329, Debi wrote:So I thought Gin was the easiest to get lynched a while ago, but it then changed to Drealmerz. With evidence I'm happy to change my vote to any of the 4.
This sentence makes me uncomfortable
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Post Post #2334 (isolation #261) » Tue Jan 10, 2017 11:24 am

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Debi, may I ask why you were going for the easiest lynch?
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Post Post #2386 (isolation #262) » Tue Jan 10, 2017 4:14 pm

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Zach, look dude I'm no longer going to argue with you because you're a brick wall and I learned that early on.

I voted for Slick because I read it as him just making a post saying he'd just not contribute D1 with a quick little excuse and hope it slides
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That was my argument.

Your argument is that I twisted a misrep into voting him.

Like really you're just butting heads with me because we have different ideologies of how players should play or be involved.
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Post Post #2393 (isolation #263) » Tue Jan 10, 2017 4:27 pm

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I didn't realize I didn't have a vote up, still love my case on him and I would love to talk about it.

VOTE: All Alone
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Post Post #2394 (isolation #264) » Tue Jan 10, 2017 4:33 pm

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As a point of reference
In post 2189, TheRealGin-N-Tonic wrote:I voted, and why I encourage a vote towards AA is for the following reasons:

He has 16 posts in total in which, we can break down fairly simple.
Starting off, the first 5 posts were naked votes and the 6th vote was a fake "town frustration" reaction by saying on D1 he doesn't know where to put his vote, thus frustrated does not make sense on D1 and this isn't his first game either.

In his post 1001, AA goes on to say my read on Alisae as town was the only with depth to it. "This is Gin's only townread with any depth to it" (Post 1001, All Alone). Therefore, All Alone has stated that I have reasoning to town read Alisae.

Then in post 1027, AA goes on to say I never explained why I town read Alisae. This is a direct contradiction to his earlier push and shows that All Alone has changed his narrative to fit his push; some of which involves misrepresenting to get it through.

As for the rest of his posts, you'll also been keen to notice that I have been the only player he ever talks about. I've been the main contender for the lynch right now, and I can only see Scum!All Alone pushing a lynch on one player.

There is no room for town!All Alone to be tunneling one player and never interacting with anyone else.

That ladies and gentlemen is a case worth voting for.
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In post 1445, All Alone wrote:I don't understand why people are townreading Gin :(
This post, quite simple really. If a player wanted player X dead, then there is reasoning behind it, he would look at the posts people town read and say why they have scummy connotations to them. However he hasn't done any of that, just a prodge statement in actuality because this is the only thing he said for 400 posts.
In post 1745, All Alone wrote:I see Gin found a way to get back on the Alisae lynch after hard defending him, without ever having explained the townread like he promised

in other news, Gin is scum
300 posts later and he brings up a point that I just pointed out was a contradiction within himself.
In post 1758, All Alone wrote:If Gin genuinely believed Alisae needed to be a policy lynch, he wouldn't have hard defended him and then waited until they were both lynch candidates to bring it up. That is survivalistic play.
This is the only post I can respond to in about 2-3 days but after I'm allowed to speak and say the reasons as to why I demanded a policy lynch, it'll make sense and render this argument invalid.

Thus, we again conclude that All Alone is scum based off of all this.
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Post Post #2420 (isolation #265) » Tue Jan 10, 2017 5:44 pm

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So, out of All Alone, Zach, Slick, Echo, Debi or Texcat please tell me who'd you like me to shoot and who you think the shot would be most wasted on.

I'll take the best case I find and we'll work from there day 2 given the flips we get.

P.S. You won't convince me to shoot outside this pool of players.
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Post Post #2425 (isolation #266) » Tue Jan 10, 2017 5:48 pm

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Okay got it, now for those people I listed, who you want alive the most? I ask because even if you want Texcat dead; I could find a heap of compelling evidence for say Debi and you wanted her alive, but never stated why.
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Post Post #2431 (isolation #267) » Tue Jan 10, 2017 5:53 pm

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I'm not going to talk after this point because who I shoot is based on what ya'll come up with (with my authority being supreme but hey gotta satiate that ego).

The two questions in case you forget are:

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Question 2: Out of the shooting pool, who would you want shot the least?
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Post Post #2435 (isolation #268) » Tue Jan 10, 2017 5:54 pm

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In post 2434, Lil Uzi Vert wrote:UNVOTE:

I have no idea what we're doing right now. It doesn't seem like anyone is interested in starting a new wagon and people are telling Gin who to shoot when he isn't confirmed.
There's only one way for a vig to confirm himself :roll:
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Post Post #2460 (isolation #269) » Tue Jan 10, 2017 6:14 pm

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In post 2457, Pine wrote:
In post 2453, Alisae wrote:Pine I stopped shitposting a long time ago.
No, you didn't.

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Post Post #2475 (isolation #270) » Tue Jan 10, 2017 6:51 pm

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In post 2431, TheRealGin-N-Tonic wrote:I'm not going to talk after this point because who I shoot is based on what ya'll come up with (with my authority being supreme but hey gotta satiate that ego).

The two questions in case you forget are:

Shooting Pool: All Alone, Zach, Slick, Echo, Debi, and Texcat

Question 1: Out of the shooting pool, who would you want shot the most?

Question 2: Out of the shooting pool, who would you want shot the least?

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Post Post #2497 (isolation #271) » Tue Jan 10, 2017 7:41 pm

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I wish Grey was here
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Post Post #2505 (isolation #272) » Tue Jan 10, 2017 7:53 pm

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Post Post #2510 (isolation #273) » Tue Jan 10, 2017 8:00 pm

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Post Post #2518 (isolation #274) » Tue Jan 10, 2017 8:13 pm

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In post 2431, TheRealGin-N-Tonic wrote:I'm not going to talk after this point
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Post Post #2528 (isolation #275) » Tue Jan 10, 2017 8:43 pm

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Haven't gotten answers from Zach, Creature, Ircher, Pine, Human, Human, Texcat, Wraith, Slick, Debi, Echo, Dunn, or AA. Busy day tomorrow, see ya'll when my day is over.
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Question 2: Out of the shooting pool, who would you want shot the least?
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Post Post #2551 (isolation #276) » Wed Jan 11, 2017 3:30 am

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Zach, Ircher, Wraith, Slick, Debi, Echo, AA. Ya'll the last ones not to put input, help a bro, thank you.
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Shooting Pool: All Alone, Zach, Slick, Echo, Debi, and Texcat

Question 1: Out of the shooting pool, who would you want shot the most?

Question 2: Out of the shooting pool, who would you want shot the least?
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Post Post #2574 (isolation #277) » Wed Jan 11, 2017 5:59 am

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In post 2572, Titus wrote:Slick is an existing candidate.

The Real Gin and Tonic is nit. He's a provable PR claim.
Titus is town as fuck.

P-Edit: Rainbowdash Mini 1862 claims Miller and votes claimed cop, a PR role. Guess what, Rainbowdash equated to scum.

I'm content with the content I got from yalls opinions and boy do I have a lot to say.
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Post Post #2581 (isolation #278) » Wed Jan 11, 2017 6:54 am

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Cop invests me to find a town aligned result

However I'm highly suspect that I'll be the one to die tonight because scum won't dare keep a Vig alive

I request the doc stays on the town confirmed and if we have a cop, it's obviously on me.

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Post Post #2582 (isolation #279) » Wed Jan 11, 2017 6:55 am

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Town confirmed as in RB
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Post Post #2584 (isolation #280) » Wed Jan 11, 2017 6:57 am

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Alisae, thoughts on what I said about a repeat Rainbowdash?
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Post Post #2591 (isolation #281) » Wed Jan 11, 2017 7:27 am

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If you think I didn't know I wasn't at L-1 you're a joke.

I will never self-hammer, doesn't mean I can't vote myself.
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Post Post #2592 (isolation #282) » Wed Jan 11, 2017 7:29 am

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Scared the piss out of HS and when I get to a computer to make my post laying out my thoughts, it'll come to fruition why I do what I do
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Post Post #2593 (isolation #283) » Wed Jan 11, 2017 7:37 am

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Also lynch anything with fire who dares lolhammers me before I can make my post
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Post Post #2618 (isolation #284) » Wed Jan 11, 2017 9:52 am

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Alrighty, my children I am now home with a computer, I will try to write up the post but I do have a night class 2 hours but I'm doubting it'll take me that long.
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Post Post #2619 (isolation #285) » Wed Jan 11, 2017 10:19 am

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Top ShotTexcatTexcatEcho, Slick, TexEcho, SDGinSlickEchoN/ADebiGinEcho, DebiGinN/AN/AN/A4/6Gin
Top ProtectN/LZach, Echo, DebiN/AZach, AAN/CTexcatZachN/ASlickN/CZach, TexN/CN/CN/AN/AZach, DebiN/C


TermsN/A=No Posts@timeN/C=Non-ComplainantGin=Player X believes false claim/votes Gin
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Post Post #2620 (isolation #286) » Wed Jan 11, 2017 10:21 am

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Titus, I left you that as a present so you can VCA later on. The written conclusions I'm making will be in a separate post so you don't have to edit out the words everytime you refer to this post in the future :)
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Post Post #2624 (isolation #287) » Wed Jan 11, 2017 11:01 am

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In post 2622, Creature wrote:Use this:
Spoiler:
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Post Post #2626 (isolation #288) » Wed Jan 11, 2017 11:02 am

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Post Post #2631 (isolation #289) » Wed Jan 11, 2017 11:12 am

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VOTE: No Lynch
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Post Post #2634 (isolation #290) » Wed Jan 11, 2017 11:15 am

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Lol I'm already shooting one person and that'll reveal info, scum are forced to kill someone as well as there is no possible way they'd No-kill gambit to frame me.
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Post Post #2636 (isolation #291) » Wed Jan 11, 2017 11:19 am

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Well, by the looks of it, more people want Echo shot than they do dead so I can shoot him, the runner up is Slick to be shot but in this case, I shoot Echo and lynch Slick or is that not optimal play?
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Post Post #2640 (isolation #292) » Wed Jan 11, 2017 11:32 am

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OH BEFORE WE END THE DAY, I GOTTA GIVE OUT THE READS I GOT FROM THIS PROCESS.

Pine is conf!town: He didn't even attempt to sway my shot, he also explained the optimal process in using a vig shot. Scum!Pine leaves info in the dark and leaves things obscure. He didn't do any of that, my boy Senpine is town and we can be friends.
Debi leaning hard town: Mostly because of the dumbtell, as what Pine pointed out made sense.
Creature leaning hard town: He's been towning it up this entire game and his way of helping me to make sure everything is more organized is just another step in helping one town out to the other.
Titus leaning town hard: Expressed a lot of logic and expressed that Vig can prove one's self. Also general good vibes.


There are some people that are null and if I didn't mention their name, well, they're null.
Anyone that voted me after claim and not willing to contribute, into scum pile.

Also, why I left off Alisae and d7 is because I treat Vig shots like a cop invest. You don't do it on the scummiest players because it's more than likely they'll be lynched anyway if scum cuz they'll crack under pressure eventually. You go to take out lurkers or just the highest scum read that's not on a current wagon for the day effectively making it a double day because in case whoever gets shot was town, they are no longer an option for scum to push as a mislynch.
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Post Post #2641 (isolation #293) » Wed Jan 11, 2017 11:32 am

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VOTE: Slickss
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Post Post #2642 (isolation #294) » Wed Jan 11, 2017 11:35 am

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Also, the reason I picked this pool is to see the town's opinions in one collective spot. There is no room to hide your opinions when forced to give an answer.
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Post Post #2643 (isolation #295) » Wed Jan 11, 2017 11:36 am

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Sorry for the spam posting

Anyways, the reason I never explained any of this is because anything I say would sway any opinion or raw answer someone would give me, hence why I tried to keep my mouth shut for the most part.
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Post Post #2715 (isolation #296) » Wed Jan 11, 2017 3:01 pm

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I have a quick question. Why doesn't Slick say anything about his wagon that forms on him?
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Post Post #2723 (isolation #297) » Wed Jan 11, 2017 3:20 pm

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In post 2722, Ircher wrote:~Reasons~
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Also to answer your question from earlier about the breadcrumb thing. You're not forced to do that and there is no way I'm going hint that I'm a power role. It's stupid play in my opinion and can easily be faked anyways.
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Post Post #2737 (isolation #298) » Wed Jan 11, 2017 3:46 pm

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Wraith, I'm shooting Echo. Are you okay with that?
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Post Post #2740 (isolation #299) » Wed Jan 11, 2017 3:47 pm

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Are you saying I'm mafia?
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Post Post #2744 (isolation #300) » Wed Jan 11, 2017 3:49 pm

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You are saying I am aligned with the mafia, which is part of a team who has other members with the same win coin?
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Post Post #2751 (isolation #301) » Wed Jan 11, 2017 3:55 pm

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In post 2749, Lil Uzi Vert wrote:I can't get behind sheeping Titus when all she's lynching for is information. I know rb hasn't been active but I trust his reads a lot more from prior experience. I've seen the guy carry towns by himself. Can we just sheep him?
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Post Post #2752 (isolation #302) » Wed Jan 11, 2017 4:00 pm

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So, can anyone tell me what's wrong with Wraith's logic and why I'm finding it extremely distasteful?

Look at the facts

Wraith has said I'm part of the scum team, who share a factional kill.

I'm saying I'm the Vig.

Now, this means that if the mafia kills, and I kill. There will be a total of 2 kills reported.

Someone please explain to me, how one could come to the conclusion that there was no possible way for two kills to show up?

I was actually hoping that Wraith said I had a chance of being SK, but he did not. I made sure to specifically ask him if he thought I was aligned with the mafia or not.

Now, can someone besides me concur with this or at least state why I'm so fucked up over Wraith's anti-town logic?
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Post Post #2760 (isolation #303) » Wed Jan 11, 2017 4:05 pm

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In post 2755, Wraith wrote:
In post 2753, Dunnstral wrote:Gin is either serial killer or vig. He's not mafia.

I don't care if he's serial killer right now if he just shoots lurkers ands cummers. Lynch someone else
See I have the opposite problem here. I'm wondering where this speculation that he can't be scum and MUST be SK if he isn't the Vig is coming from.
For someone that's been playing for almost 7 years, I think experience would answer this question by itself.
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Post Post #2765 (isolation #304) » Wed Jan 11, 2017 4:11 pm

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So yeah, we're lynching slick. Echo is dying by my hands confirmed. There will be 2 kills, we're good to go?
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Post Post #2767 (isolation #305) » Wed Jan 11, 2017 4:13 pm

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This is genuinely pissing me off but why aren't Echo or Slick fighting for their lives?
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Post Post #2774 (isolation #306) » Wed Jan 11, 2017 4:21 pm

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Not going to lie, spectating this game after I'm dead is going to be down right hilarious
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Post Post #2780 (isolation #307) » Wed Jan 11, 2017 4:30 pm

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In post 2775, drealmerz7 wrote:I'll switch to gin if alisae is not happening but it makes me sad
I'll be lynched because of deadline lynching and honestly, if I had a reason to just not care anymore, it's because of posts like these.

It's moments where I get anguished by the mere fact that one will simply vote someone because of apathy instead of voting who they actually push for.

It's depressing as fuck.
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Post Post #2782 (isolation #308) » Wed Jan 11, 2017 4:32 pm

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If you truly thought I was scum your vote would be on me and I'd be dead. Stop playing games dude.
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Post Post #2787 (isolation #309) » Wed Jan 11, 2017 4:34 pm

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L-2...
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Post Post #2795 (isolation #310) » Wed Jan 11, 2017 4:41 pm

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Dreal can you just stop insulting Alisae and saying "you're scum"

It doesn't help anyone honestly...
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Post Post #2801 (isolation #311) » Wed Jan 11, 2017 4:44 pm

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I can handle that, I don't mind intimidation as it's part of the game but just calling players bad and not trying to work with them (even if you think they're scum) to try and have conversation about the motivations players would have to do whatever actions they did.

It just feels like a yelling match instead of trying to figure out who is scum by pushing their own lynches under the radar.

This is more of a general statement towards everyone, not just d7.
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Post Post #2859 (isolation #312) » Wed Jan 11, 2017 11:44 pm

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In post 2857, Human Sequencer wrote:
In post 2851, EchoVision wrote:oh hell no I'm not waiting for night to lynch this fucker we won't be able to get a wagon on him again it took over ten days to get this one, it's just not going to happen
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gin has a great emotional and charismatic scumgame, but when you pick his posts apart it entirely falls apart
NO SHIT BECAUSE WHEN HE'S DEAD I'M FUCKING CONFIRMED
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Post Post #2861 (isolation #313) » Wed Jan 11, 2017 11:49 pm

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Are you saying Echo is town?
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Post Post #2862 (isolation #314) » Wed Jan 11, 2017 11:54 pm

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In post 2861, TheRealGin-N-Tonic wrote:Are you saying Echo is town?
Quit talking in your private topic about what to say and get your ass in here with a yes or no answer.
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Post Post #2865 (isolation #315) » Wed Jan 11, 2017 11:56 pm

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In post 2863, Human Sequencer wrote:1. why do you ask?
2. i think echo is towny, i wouldn't bet on it though. i definitely think there's far better targets to shoot, though.
There we go. Build that fuckin town case
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Post Post #2867 (isolation #316) » Thu Jan 12, 2017 12:06 am

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Hey Human, why dont you read his other two games, both as town, and then tell me what you see in this thread?

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Post Post #2870 (isolation #317) » Thu Jan 12, 2017 12:18 am

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Slick and Echo are seriously interchangeable

I'm not talking about his posts quantitatively, I'm talking the qualitative results you get from reading his games but nice dodge of what you know I'm getting at.
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Post Post #2873 (isolation #318) » Thu Jan 12, 2017 12:28 am

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When players are in the noobie stages, it's quite easy to pick out their differences in play because they don't know how to mold their scum game to look like their town game.

In those two games he's played, his post quality has always remained level-headed and he's explained his thoughts in good paragraphs mostly every post.

In this game, he's of an abrasive nature and he mostly avoids giving his opinion in detail as he normally would. In a sense for noob!scums, they generally haven't picked up the skill of forming fake scum reads on players so they'll resort to insults or really weak logic to push their agenda.

If you want an example of why there is a key difference in play I notice, let's look at Echo's ISO, you'll see he said he townread Alisae, and when Alisae asked for Echo's reasoning, multiple times Echo just said it's because he does. It's a bad attempt at buddying and for his previous posting quality that we have seen from him, it would be expected that Echo could actually explain his reads.
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Post Post #2875 (isolation #319) » Thu Jan 12, 2017 12:45 am

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This post just made my day
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Post Post #2882 (isolation #320) » Thu Jan 12, 2017 1:18 am

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When did you pick up the cursing?
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Post Post #2885 (isolation #321) » Thu Jan 12, 2017 1:29 am

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I checked, your Newbie 1767 had a total of 5 swear words (2 were shit, 2 were damn, and the last was "fuck brie") in 13 posts and Newbie 1762, you said "damn" once in 33 posts.

In this game, you've said fuck 35 times, 3 damn times (lmfao), and shit twice; resulting in 40 swears in 68 posts.

So excuse me for thinking your diction is alignment indicative
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Post Post #2887 (isolation #322) » Thu Jan 12, 2017 1:34 am

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Human can you fuck off from my conversations with other players?
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Post Post #2888 (isolation #323) » Thu Jan 12, 2017 1:35 am

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Like please, seriously, if I'm having a conversation with someone, I don't need your two cents let alone the fucking dollar you shove in front of my face
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Post Post #2890 (isolation #324) » Thu Jan 12, 2017 1:37 am

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I'll be honest I'm not even reading it at this point, if I had a guess it's just a repeat of things you've said before so responding to it wont' add any value.
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Post Post #2893 (isolation #325) » Thu Jan 12, 2017 1:41 am

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I mean this in the least offensive way possible but continuous interruptions by you when I'm talking to another player is only counter productive, hence why at this point I'm just mentally blocking your posts when I try to have a conversation.

Now Echo, please, lets continue to talk.
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Post Post #2896 (isolation #326) » Thu Jan 12, 2017 2:13 am

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Nah, I'd rather you be up to date otherwise we'd be arguing two different things in light of information I've read as compared to what you've read.
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Post Post #2900 (isolation #327) » Thu Jan 12, 2017 2:36 am

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Doc is on RB unless it's a mafia doctor.

Also, if anyone besides you died, then there would be an SK confirmed besides me being the Vig as we all know who I'm shooting, so if any kills happen outside of that range of one player, we can come to the conclusion that there are in fact more than one scum aligned factions.
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Post Post #2907 (isolation #328) » Thu Jan 12, 2017 4:37 am

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I believe that was hammer.

Well yeah, I'm not Vig but I planned on faking Vig so maf would do a no kill gambit to frame me.

Also thought it was the best way to gather everyone's opinions quite clearly in one post, refer to the table I made.

I knew this was inevitable but I did my best to produce as much content that had actual information in it. good luck guys
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Post Post #2908 (isolation #329) » Thu Jan 12, 2017 4:39 am

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If it makes anyone feel better that was town on the wagon, I was just a VT, part of the reason why I was okay with faking Vig because that would have also lured in a maf kill letting the town PRs go to work.
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Post Post #2910 (isolation #330) » Thu Jan 12, 2017 4:41 am

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Now, I can only ask that everyone looks deeply into the arguments I made. Now that All Alone had pushed a mislynch, what's next about him? You actually can't answer that question. Zach, even tho he was wrong, I'm almost sure it was town based BUT do not treat it as a free pass.
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Post Post #6442 (isolation #331) » Sat Feb 04, 2017 11:40 am

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Did anyone on the red or blue team think this was a scum slip given that I didn't know this was about the multi colors?
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Another also, haha in having Zach be one of the first people I wanted to shoot and everyone chose to protect Zach in the lottery thing.
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Post Post #6445 (isolation #332) » Sat Feb 04, 2017 11:50 am

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In post 6444, MortFeld wrote:Gin was the only real tragedy this game
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Post Post #6448 (isolation #333) » Sat Feb 04, 2017 11:56 am

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oh shush
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Post Post #6449 (isolation #334) » Sat Feb 04, 2017 11:56 am

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This was probably the worst game I've played tho
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Post Post #6451 (isolation #335) » Sat Feb 04, 2017 12:04 pm

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Nah, it was my prime motivation to become a better player and all my games reflect that :p
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Post Post #6501 (isolation #336) » Wed Feb 08, 2017 4:14 pm

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I THOUGHT NOTHING OF THE TIE THING BECAUSE I'VE NEVER DONE MULTIBALL BEFORE
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Post Post #6503 (isolation #337) » Wed Feb 08, 2017 4:15 pm

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That is hilarious tho
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Post Post #6505 (isolation #338) » Wed Feb 08, 2017 4:16 pm

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Did I have a previous avatar?
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Post Post #6509 (isolation #339) » Wed Feb 08, 2017 4:16 pm

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MY OLD FORUM TIE, THATS RIGHT
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Post Post #6511 (isolation #340) » Wed Feb 08, 2017 4:17 pm

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Your D1 play still sucks tbh
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Post Post #6512 (isolation #341) » Wed Feb 08, 2017 4:17 pm

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Don't make fun of a man's tie
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Post Post #6513 (isolation #342) » Wed Feb 08, 2017 4:19 pm

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I actually have a gallery of about 25 ties if I'm being honest...
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Post Post #6517 (isolation #343) » Wed Feb 08, 2017 4:20 pm

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what does that mean?
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Post Post #6518 (isolation #344) » Wed Feb 08, 2017 4:21 pm

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Also I'm extremely miffed that I still can't fucking read Pine for shit.
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Post Post #6522 (isolation #345) » Wed Feb 08, 2017 4:23 pm

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Ya'll freaking cheeky
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Post Post #6524 (isolation #346) » Wed Feb 08, 2017 4:24 pm

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I think it's my job to give that because I never actually gave Zach a nickname lmfao
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Post Post #6526 (isolation #347) » Wed Feb 08, 2017 4:27 pm

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smith for MVP
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