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Post Post #8 (isolation #0) » Mon Jan 09, 2017 1:35 am

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Hey guys :)

What's shaking?
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Post Post #15 (isolation #1) » Mon Jan 09, 2017 5:10 am

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If you obey all the rules, you miss all the fun :P
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Post Post #17 (isolation #2) » Mon Jan 09, 2017 5:15 am

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Terrible reaction tests.
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Post Post #25 (isolation #3) » Mon Jan 09, 2017 5:28 am

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boring and rb are in this game? Sweet!
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Post Post #32 (isolation #4) » Mon Jan 09, 2017 5:35 am

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It was too obvious and it wasn't what RVS needed at the time. More CMM jokes would've been better.
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Post Post #35 (isolation #5) » Mon Jan 09, 2017 5:38 am

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That's player specific.
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Post Post #44 (isolation #6) » Mon Jan 09, 2017 6:07 am

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Hey Hawk! :]

scum!Grey is a slick one indeed!
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Post Post #48 (isolation #7) » Mon Jan 09, 2017 6:15 am

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In post 46, -Grey- wrote:
In post 44, Lil Uzi Vert wrote:Hey Hawk! :]

scum!Grey is a slick one indeed!
Why do you say that?

I understand Hawk, but you weren't in that game, so...?
I read it and felt you played well.
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Post Post #54 (isolation #8) » Mon Jan 09, 2017 6:21 am

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In post 49, -Grey- wrote:
In post 48, Lil Uzi Vert wrote:
In post 46, -Grey- wrote:
In post 44, Lil Uzi Vert wrote:Hey Hawk! :]

scum!Grey is a slick one indeed!
Why do you say that?

I understand Hawk, but you weren't in that game, so...?
I read it and felt you played well.
When did you read it?
Last night.
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Post Post #72 (isolation #9) » Mon Jan 09, 2017 10:35 am

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In post 61, havingfitz wrote:I was going to comment on Grey's questioning towards LUV with the point that just because LUV said "scum!Grey is a slick one" doesn't mean he was referring to a specific game. I've been in games where Grey was scum and therefore could say the same thing. I know LUV has game experience where Grey is scum so he is not out of line by making that comment.

But then LUV had to go and say he was in fact referring to a specific game...that he wasn't in...that he just happened to read last night.

Speaking from my pov....I enter as many games as I can reasonbly handle. Something my game-mates would probably say is inaccurate :(

I do know that I do not have time to leisurely go about reading other games. At most a little meta investigating but certainly not reading games in full. And Hawk didn't mention which game he was even referring to. Just that he was in one with Grey where Grey was scum.

So LUV
....do you read a lot of games that you aren't in?
How often would you say you do that?
And what made you select the game with Grey that Hawk is alluding to?


tl:dr;

LUV reading the Hawk and Grey game last night where Grey was "slick scum" seems awfully coincidental.
I do. I enjoy mafia and I feel reading old and recently completed games will help me get better. I selected the game with Grey that Hawk was alluding to for a few reasons. One is ongoing, another is because I've never seen him play scum before, and lastly, he makes me laugh.
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Post Post #78 (isolation #10) » Mon Jan 09, 2017 2:36 pm

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They see me trolling, they hating :cool:
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Post Post #82 (isolation #11) » Mon Jan 09, 2017 5:06 pm

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@Mod: I'll be v/LA until the 13th.
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Post Post #131 (isolation #12) » Tue Jan 10, 2017 7:58 pm

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I didn't like the reasoning for Ali's vote on Grey at all but I wouldn't be surprised if Grey was voted for his reaction to how I described his scum game. I'm not really interested in that right now though. The seed has been planted and I will simply watch it grow for now.

Mozamis tends to town hunt like I do but I think he may be a bit to generous with town reads than the average person based on the experience I have with him.

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In post 89, FancyPants wrote:OK well not much to go on thus far. Let's take a stab then.
Alisae, Havingfitz, Empking, Grey, Hawk all seem to have some vague interest in figuring out this game at least.

ConManMick and boring haven't done much. LUV I'm not sure about.
Mozamis making some really early town reads, makes me suspect he
knows
who town are. Surety is scummy.

Therefore I'm happy with my vote. As I said earlier wagon ho.
Could you point to which posts give you those feelings about King and Hawk?
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Post Post #132 (isolation #13) » Tue Jan 10, 2017 8:00 pm

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In post 129, FancyPants wrote:I'm not saying Alisae is scum, I just disagree with the reasoning, the "one of them is scum" is actually a dangerous thought because if the interaction is a TvT then scum have an excuse to lynch to concurrent townies, but I'm not convinced it doesn't come from paranoid townies just as often.
Was this in response to ?
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Post Post #147 (isolation #14) » Wed Jan 11, 2017 6:20 am

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Hi Anti and BBT!
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Post Post #159 (isolation #15) » Wed Jan 11, 2017 10:56 am

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Majikarp used Splash!... But nothing happened! :P
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Post Post #162 (isolation #16) » Wed Jan 11, 2017 3:40 pm

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In post 148, BlueBloodedToffee wrote:Hey Uzi,

You look town froma quick skim through.

Tell me who is scum?
Uh missed this.

Honestly have no idea. A few people look town though so that should help me give you an answer when I do a reread tomorrow.
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Post Post #185 (isolation #17) » Thu Jan 12, 2017 12:16 am

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Activity is NAI. Just ask the mod to replace him if it keeps up.
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Post Post #187 (isolation #18) » Thu Jan 12, 2017 12:43 am

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VOTE: King
In post 164, boring wrote:@LUV, the last time I played with you, your reads won the game for us. I'm interested in your ongoing opinion of the gamestate. (by the way, I know you're V/LA now, but you have a habit of "forgetting" you're in games. Please don't forget about us.)
I got really lucky that game :lol:

I currently have weak scum reads on Ali, Anti, and King.
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Post Post #260 (isolation #19) » Fri Jan 13, 2017 2:24 am

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In post 190, BlueBloodedToffee wrote:
In post 154, Antihuman wrote:So many interesting players, this is gonna be exciting.
After an initial readup I got many townreads but some of them are slight.
Strong townreads are fitz and boring.
Townleans on Grey and Alisae.
Mixed feelings about mozamis, LUV and FP, will need more time to sort them out.

VOTE: mozamis

Very little substance in his posting, looks like coasting scum
Talk about your reads on Grey and fitz please? I'm super surprised that out of those 3 people you chose to vote for Moz. Why does scum!Moz go against the thread and start defending Alisae based on nothing?

OK, this game feels really weird and I agree with FP that I think scum are laying low.

There are so many people not scum hunting/contributing to the game that it's very difficult to form town reads.

VOTE: Grey

This game needs a serious wagon.
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Post Post #261 (isolation #20) » Fri Jan 13, 2017 2:25 am

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In post 260, Lil Uzi Vert wrote:
In post 190, BlueBloodedToffee wrote:
In post 154, Antihuman wrote:So many interesting players, this is gonna be exciting.
After an initial readup I got many townreads but some of them are slight.
Strong townreads are fitz and boring.
Townleans on Grey and Alisae.
Mixed feelings about mozamis, LUV and FP, will need more time to sort them out.

VOTE: mozamis

Very little substance in his posting, looks like coasting scum
Talk about your reads on Grey and fitz please? I'm super surprised that out of those 3 people you chose to vote for Moz. Why does scum!Moz go against the thread and start defending Alisae based on nothing?

OK, this game feels really weird and I agree with FP that I think scum are laying low.

There are so many people not scum hunting/contributing to the game that it's very difficult to form town reads.

VOTE: Grey

This game needs a serious wagon.
Why Grey here? It feels like you should voting for Fancy or Fitz right now.

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Post Post #262 (isolation #21) » Fri Jan 13, 2017 2:29 am

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In post 200, Empking wrote:
In post 158, Alisae wrote:
In [url=/forum/viewtopic.php?p=8716281#p8716281]post 156[/url], Empking wrote:
In post 142, tojam2 wrote:NV (5) - BlueBloodedToffee, Alisae, Antihuman, SnarkySnowman, Lil Uzi Vert
FOS: Everyone n this list
Why?
I unvoted so that I could reread and re-evaluate the game.
That's no excuse. Throwing away pressure is only pro-scum.

Why Al over LUV? Gut or arbitrariness, it could have gone either way but I leant a little to Al. I didn't even notice the wagon, as hard as that is to believe, as the huge numbers of not voters stood out to me and I immediately reacted.

I usually prefer joining wagons - all else be equal - but my priority with two weeks to go is my biggest scum read.
Why didn't you ask the people you FoS'd questions?
In post 216, BlueBloodedToffee wrote:VOTE: fitz

Can we lynch this please?
No.
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Post Post #263 (isolation #22) » Fri Jan 13, 2017 2:33 am

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In post 225, -Grey- wrote:Vote Alisae or I dare you to defend him.
You seem to know Ali well so I'm surprised about your reaction to him voting for you. I think it's fair to say he overvalues meta a bit and you shouldn't really read into him using the method as a base for a scum read no?
In post 228, mozamis wrote:Uzi, why the King vote?
Shade throwing and the hop on the Ali wagon.
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Post Post #276 (isolation #23) » Fri Jan 13, 2017 10:31 am

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In post 267, -Grey- wrote:
In post 263, Lil Uzi Vert wrote:You seem to know Ali well so I'm surprised about your reaction to him voting for you. I think it's fair to say he overvalues meta a bit and you shouldn't really read into him using the method as a base for a scum read no?
You don't pay very close attention, do you?

He didn't
use
meta, he completely
misrepresented
it.
I don't but I did that time. The entire disagreement is over meta and since you claim to know Ali so well, you would know he tends to rely on it more than most so why immediately jump on him trying to misrepresent it in order to justify a vote and push a lynch? We can all fact check your meta on MS if we wanted too, so it really makes no sense for him to lie about how he's views your scum and town game based on the majority of the games he's played with you.
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Post Post #286 (isolation #24) » Fri Jan 13, 2017 2:54 pm

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I'm not bending over backwards, I just really don't like mislynches and Ali feels like one. Same with Snowman. He will be replaced if he continues to be inactive and/or lurk.

Join me on King.
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Post Post #288 (isolation #25) » Fri Jan 13, 2017 2:56 pm

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Voting won't get anyone to say words if they're not even here to see the votes. It's a waste of a vote.
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Post Post #296 (isolation #26) » Sat Jan 14, 2017 2:56 am

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In post 289, boring wrote:
In post 286, Lil Uzi Vert wrote:Join me on King.
Sure, Empking hasn't done anything to leave the bottom half of my nebulous read cloud yet.

VOTE: Empking

Why are we voting him in particular? I saw you mention the jump on Alisae and shade-throwing. It's kind of meh. I suppose those are things that happened, but surely, other people have been scummy too. Who's your second highest read?
Just for those reasons. It's a better wagon than what we had before.

Anti is my second. A lot of his questions feel like busy work and I don't like how he got his TR on Ali.
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Post Post #298 (isolation #27) » Sat Jan 14, 2017 3:05 am

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"It's not what a lawyer tells me I may do but what humanity, reason, and justice tells me I ought to do." - Edmund Burke

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Post Post #305 (isolation #28) » Sat Jan 14, 2017 3:53 am

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Ranger style reads!
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Post Post #311 (isolation #29) » Sat Jan 14, 2017 4:07 am

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In post 309, -Grey- wrote:
In post 261, Lil Uzi Vert wrote:Why Grey here? It feels like you should voting for Fancy or Fitz right now.
Why would he be voting for Fancy when he was agreeing with them in the post you quoted?
Check his and .
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Post Post #316 (isolation #30) » Sat Jan 14, 2017 4:27 am

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Moz's vote on CMM was bad but that's the only thing really. I've liked everything else I've seen from him.
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Post Post #328 (isolation #31) » Sat Jan 14, 2017 8:26 am

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In post 319, -Grey- wrote:
In post 316, Lil Uzi Vert wrote:Moz's vote on CMM was bad but that's the only thing really. I've liked everything else I've seen from him.
Why? Everything he's posted until his ConManMick vote was just reasons to townread people.

Then a naked vote out of nowhere?

Nah. Not buying it.
And? He just likes to townhunt and there is nothing wrong with that. People just get paranoid because of the confindence in his reads.

Naked votes/voting is NAI.
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Post Post #332 (isolation #32) » Sat Jan 14, 2017 3:30 pm

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In post 329, Empking wrote:
In post 296, Lil Uzi Vert wrote:
In post 289, boring wrote:
In post 286, Lil Uzi Vert wrote:Join me on King.
Sure, Empking hasn't done anything to leave the bottom half of my nebulous read cloud yet.

VOTE: Empking

Why are we voting him in particular? I saw you mention the jump on Alisae and shade-throwing. It's kind of meh. I suppose those are things that happened, but surely, other people have been scummy too. Who's your second highest read?
Just for those reasons. It's a better wagon than what we had before.

Anti is my second. A lot of his questions feel like busy work and I don't like how he got his TR on Ali.
What is wrong with my 'jump on Ali'? And what's 'shade'? As in the Ru Paul sense?
I found your vote on Ali the most suspicious. You FoS'd everyone not voting and didn't apply any pressure there. That's shade.
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Post Post #338 (isolation #33) » Sat Jan 14, 2017 5:57 pm

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No, but that is irrelevant right now.
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Post Post #340 (isolation #34) » Sat Jan 14, 2017 7:55 pm

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In post 339, Alisae wrote:Yes it is.
You agreed with me :lol:
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Post Post #341 (isolation #35) » Sat Jan 14, 2017 7:55 pm

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But seriously, focus on the now.
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Post Post #343 (isolation #36) » Sat Jan 14, 2017 7:57 pm

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Which is?
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Post Post #349 (isolation #37) » Sat Jan 14, 2017 10:53 pm

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In post 344, Alisae wrote:Do you really want me to say it?
I know what you're hinting at and if so, you're wrong. I would've mentioned her by now.
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Post Post #350 (isolation #38) » Sat Jan 14, 2017 10:53 pm

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In post 345, Empking wrote:
In post 332, Lil Uzi Vert wrote:
In post 329, Empking wrote:
In post 296, Lil Uzi Vert wrote:
In post 289, boring wrote:
In post 286, Lil Uzi Vert wrote:Join me on King.
Sure, Empking hasn't done anything to leave the bottom half of my nebulous read cloud yet.

VOTE: Empking

Why are we voting him in particular? I saw you mention the jump on Alisae and shade-throwing. It's kind of meh. I suppose those are things that happened, but surely, other people have been scummy too. Who's your second highest read?
Just for those reasons. It's a better wagon than what we had before.

Anti is my second. A lot of his questions feel like busy work and I don't like how he got his TR on Ali.
What is wrong with my 'jump on Ali'? And what's 'shade'? As in the Ru Paul sense?
I found your vote on Ali the most suspicious.
That's not an explanation. That's repeating yourself.
You FoS'd everyone not voting and didn't apply any pressure there. That's shade.
Ali was one of the people not voting. I voted for Ali. That's applying pressure there.
It is, you just aren't satisfied. Naked voting without a follow up isn't pressure. You aren't doing anything to get people to see why we should join you on Ali and you aren't engaging with him in order to see if your read gets stronger or goes away. You can also focus on more than one person at a time.

You have your vote parked, you aren't making anything happen despite having plenty of time to do so, and have resorted to arguing semantics. You're scum.
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Post Post #352 (isolation #39) » Sat Jan 14, 2017 10:57 pm

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In post 351, Alisae wrote:
In post 349, Lil Uzi Vert wrote:
In post 344, Alisae wrote:Do you really want me to say it?
I know what you're hinting at and if so, you're wrong. I would've mentioned her by now.
Do you want me to say it, yes or no?
Just say it :lol:
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Post Post #356 (isolation #40) » Sat Jan 14, 2017 11:03 pm

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In post 354, Alisae wrote:
In post 352, Lil Uzi Vert wrote:
In post 351, Alisae wrote:
In post 349, Lil Uzi Vert wrote:
In post 344, Alisae wrote:Do you really want me to say it?
I know what you're hinting at and if so, you're wrong. I would've mentioned her by now.
Do you want me to say it, yes or no?
Just say it :lol:
Okay.
You, BBT, and boring are masons.
Yeah no.

Never do that again :lol:
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Post Post #358 (isolation #41) » Sat Jan 14, 2017 11:07 pm

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The masons are probably just hanging low due to them knowing they're confirmed town.
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Post Post #361 (isolation #42) » Sun Jan 15, 2017 2:13 am

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King, I didn't say you were suspicious, I said your vote for Ali was. I found it suspicious because you had FoS'd everyone who wasn't voting before you casted your vote without giving them a reason to engage with you or the game itself. It looked like you did a quick skim of those same people and picked Ali because you thought he was low-hanging fruit and you wouldn't get too much flak for jumping on his wagon. You even tried to justify it by siting your meta when no one had asked you why you were joining his wagon.

is the only time you've interacted with Ali. That's not a lot.

You're arguing semantics by arguing the definition of explanation with me. I gave you one, you insist I didn't when everyone can clearly see I did. You just didn't like it and that's fine. Doesn't change the fact that you're scum.
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Post Post #362 (isolation #43) » Sun Jan 15, 2017 2:14 am

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Can we just lynch King already? I know a few of you have problems with Moz but nothing he's said or done is as damming as King's ISO.
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Post Post #365 (isolation #44) » Sun Jan 15, 2017 2:30 am

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Yeah the last two pages are really making me concerned about Ali but you just can't tell with him. It would've been nice if we had a cop in this setup.
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Post Post #367 (isolation #45) » Sun Jan 15, 2017 3:04 am

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In post 200, Empking wrote:
In post 158, Alisae wrote:
In [url=/forum/viewtopic.php?p=8716281#p8716281]post 156[/url], Empking wrote:
In post 142, tojam2 wrote:NV (5) - BlueBloodedToffee, Alisae, Antihuman, SnarkySnowman, Lil Uzi Vert
FOS: Everyone n this list
Why?
I unvoted so that I could reread and re-evaluate the game.
That's no excuse. Throwing away pressure is only pro-scum.

Why Al over LUV? Gut or arbitrariness, it could have gone either way but I leant a little to Al. I didn't even notice the wagon, as hard as that is to believe, as the huge numbers of not voters stood out to me and I immediately reacted.

I usually prefer joining wagons - all else be equal - but my priority with two weeks to go is my biggest scum read.
- Right here, you tried. No one asked you why you were voting for him, you were asked why you FoS'd everyone who wasn't voting.

- Now you're voting Ali for mason hunting? Bullshit, he wasn't accused of that earlier.

- That's not even the original question you asked. You asked what was wrong with your jump on Ali and I said it was suspicious. I didn't state anything wrong with your jump beforehand so I never even repeated myself. Regardless, it's me explaining why I voted you for your jump on Ali. Your dislike of it doesn't mean it isn't valid.
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Post Post #423 (isolation #46) » Sun Jan 15, 2017 12:47 pm

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In post 375, Antihuman wrote:Hi

Spoiler:
On the topic of fitz vs BBT (p9):
I understand fitz's logic and I can see why BBT dislikes it. This argument looks TvT.

I dislike Alisae's jump back onto the Grey wagon in #201. She was supposed to re-evaluate her reads but instead saw the Grey wagon was getting traction again and jumped with low effort. The reason for her vote being a meta read so I don't see why she unvoted at all. Not enough to scumread her yet though.
In post 232, mozamis wrote:
In post 230, -Grey- wrote:mozamis, don't think I will let you slide on not taking a stance on the Ali vs. Grey 1v1.
Hang on, still catching up! Gut is telling me town on town. Most epic in thread fights always seem to be.
This post's terrible. There's like 3 different stances you've just presented at once:
1. I still haven't decided
2. I've personally judged it looks TvT
3. I'm using a meta tell

Seems fabricated.
In post 238, mozamis wrote:Need more from a lot of people, but since he has given out "nervous scum" vibes, AND he is lurking:

VOTE CONMAN MICK
Where does he come off as nervous? I had the exact opposite feeling.
In post 247, boring wrote:
SnarkySnowman wrote:Not sure how I feel about Ali, let me read again
We're on page 10. I don't get the catchup posts. It'll take you what, 10 minutes to re-read the game? That's assuming you read as slowly as I.


Guess how long it has taken me to read properly when I replaced in (there were roughly 6 pages). Spoiler: 2 hours.

Ugh and now Alisae has given up her strongest scumread (#251). Not sure how I should read that, especially followed by that atrocious SS vote. Is he a tunnelling townie who's finally noticed he's wrong or is he scum acknowledging his push has lost its meaning?
Alisae explains his SS vote was purely for pressure but what good is it when you've openly admitted it?
Not sure if all this can be called a playstyle thing.

Not a fan of Hawk's #283-#284. Looks like insecure scum buddying.

Alisae's jump on Empking (#290) makes me think that's just his playstyle (inexperienced townie going for low-hanging fruit). Grey, can you confirm that since you know him?

Ok now the King wagon is getting a little bit ridiculous. 4 bare pressure votes, how is that supposed to work?
In post 291, Hawk wrote:
In post 290, Alisae wrote:
In post 289, boring wrote:
In post 286, Lil Uzi Vert wrote:Join me on King.
Sure, Empking hasn't done anything to leave the bottom half of my nebulous read cloud yet.

VOTE: Empking

Why are we voting him in particular? I saw you mention the jump on Alisae and shade-throwing. It's kind of meh. I suppose those are things that happened, but surely, other people have been scummy too. Who's your second highest read?
I wanna sheep this shit as well. I also don't particularly townread them for fosing people who aren't voting when we're less then 10 pages in. Seems like kinda a shit reason to fos a group of people to me.
VOTE: Empking
Don't you scum lean him for that then?

Honestly I still don't have the best reads but I wouldn't mind hearing more from Emp.

VOTE: EmpKing
This is the epitome of opportunism
In post 320, SnarkySnowman wrote:Hey Grey, if I said BBT was scum, would you buy it at all?
I wouldn't (for now)
In post 350, Lil Uzi Vert wrote: Naked voting without a follow up isn't pressure.
Ok then please enlighten me how is this:

In post 289, boring wrote:
In post 286, Lil Uzi Vert wrote:Join me on King.
Sure, Empking hasn't done anything to leave the bottom half of my nebulous read cloud yet.

VOTE: Empking

Why are we voting him in particular? I saw you mention the jump on Alisae and shade-throwing. It's kind of meh. I suppose those are things that happened, but surely, other people have been scummy too. Who's your second highest read?
In post 291, Hawk wrote:
In post 290, Alisae wrote:
In post 289, boring wrote:
In post 286, Lil Uzi Vert wrote:Join me on King.
Sure, Empking hasn't done anything to leave the bottom half of my nebulous read cloud yet.

VOTE: Empking

Why are we voting him in particular? I saw you mention the jump on Alisae and shade-throwing. It's kind of meh. I suppose those are things that happened, but surely, other people have been scummy too. Who's your second highest read?
I wanna sheep this shit as well. I also don't particularly townread them for fosing people who aren't voting when we're less then 10 pages in. Seems like kinda a shit reason to fos a group of people to me.
VOTE: Empking
Don't you scum lean him for that then?

Honestly I still don't have the best reads but I wouldn't mind hearing more from Emp.

VOTE: EmpKing
Any different from King's vote on Alisae?
In post 354, Alisae wrote:
In post 352, Lil Uzi Vert wrote:
In post 351, Alisae wrote:
In post 349, Lil Uzi Vert wrote:
In post 344, Alisae wrote:Do you really want me to say it?
I know what you're hinting at and if so, you're wrong. I would've mentioned her by now.
Do you want me to say it, yes or no?
Just say it :lol:
Okay.
You, BBT, and boring are masons.
Unless this was reaction test, it was awful. I'm gonna classify you as derptown for now.
In post 361, Lil Uzi Vert wrote: King, I didn't say you were suspicious, I said your vote for Ali was. I found it suspicious because you had FoS'd everyone who wasn't voting before you casted your vote without giving them a reason to engage with you or the game itself. It looked like you did a quick skim of those same people and picked Ali because you thought he was low-hanging fruit and you wouldn't get too much flak for jumping on his wagon.
Ok this actually looks plausible. But this:
In post 361, Lil Uzi Vert wrote:You even tried to justify it by siting your meta when no one had asked you why you were joining his wagon.
Isn't since it was me who asked King about his wagon tendencies:
In post 165, Antihuman wrote:He's just said he'll post some insight tomorrow though.
In post 157, Empking wrote:
UnFOS: Blue, Anti


Unvote
Vote: Alis
Do you usually prefer to join existing wagons or create them?
But it seems he's ignored my other questions, unless I missed it.
In post 365, Lil Uzi Vert wrote:Yeah the last two pages are really making me concerned about Ali but you just can't tell with him. It would've been nice if we had a cop in this setup.
Relying on prs to solve the game is weak.

Grey still looks town, maybe even more so.
Well first off, boring's vote on King wasn't naked. Second, while she didn't follow up with questions for him, she did try to understand all of my points and even asked for an alternative which I assume was incase she wasn't satisfied with my answer. Her vote for him may not scream town but it sure doesn't feel scummy to me.

I missed a few of your questions toward him and for that I apologize.
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Post Post #424 (isolation #47) » Sun Jan 15, 2017 12:47 pm

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In post 382, boring wrote:What are people thinking about BlueBloodedToffee?
Null. I think he has good intentions with his questions but his call for a Fitz lynch doesn't sit well with me.
In post 391, mozamis wrote:
In post 362, Lil Uzi Vert wrote:Can we just lynch King already?
No. I am sick of these rushed lynches, they ALWAYS end up in a mislynch. Why are you in such a rush anyway?
Maybe his vote on Ali was opportunistic. But I want to hear more from him before we just quick lynch him.
I'm not in a rush. I just hate long days, especially when I strongly feel like I've caught scum.
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Post Post #425 (isolation #48) » Sun Jan 15, 2017 12:47 pm

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In post 402, mozamis wrote:
In post 361, Lil Uzi Vert wrote:Doesn't change the fact that you're scum.
You seem really definite about this. How confident are you? I can see him being a bit suspect maybe. But you seemed to have gone onto overdrive on him.
I'm 95% sure.
In post 420, boring wrote:It's just the way I speak when I'm being a touch condescending, I suppose. Like "are we feeling well?" and "we're going to need you to sit down, now, sweetie." I think it's pretty normal for old ladies like me.
You're not old boring :P
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Post Post #426 (isolation #49) » Sun Jan 15, 2017 12:47 pm

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In post 422, Empking wrote:
In post 165, Antihuman wrote:He's just said he'll post some insight tomorrow though.
In post 157, Empking wrote:
UnFOS: Blue, Anti


Unvote
Vote: Alis
Is the basis for your vote her not voting?
If so, why did you choose her and not LUV?
If not, what are the other reasons?
Do you usually prefer to join existing wagons or create them?
In post 367, Lil Uzi Vert wrote:
In post 200, Empking wrote:
In post 158, Alisae wrote:
In [url=/forum/viewtopic.php?p=8716281#p8716281]post 156[/url], Empking wrote:
In post 142, tojam2 wrote:NV (5) - BlueBloodedToffee, Alisae, Antihuman, SnarkySnowman, Lil Uzi Vert
FOS: Everyone n this list
Why?
I unvoted so that I could reread and re-evaluate the game.
That's no excuse. Throwing away pressure is only pro-scum.

Why Al over LUV? Gut or arbitrariness, it could have gone either way but I leant a little to Al. I didn't even notice the wagon, as hard as that is to believe, as the huge numbers of not voters stood out to me and I immediately reacted.

I usually prefer joining wagons - all else be equal - but my priority with two weeks to go is my biggest scum read.
- Right here, you tried. No one asked you why you were voting for him, you were asked why you FoS'd everyone who wasn't voting.
- Now you're voting Ali for mason hunting? Bullshit, he wasn't accused of that earlier.
This is another lie. I have never said that my vote was put on Ali for mason-hunting. You've just quoted my explanation for her obver LUV. owever, with your constant lying, then you're still getting beaten by Ali for Mason-hunting.
- That's not even the original question you asked. You asked what was wrong with your jump on Ali and I said it was suspicious. I didn't state anything wrong with your jump beforehand so I never even repeated myself. Regardless, it's me explaining why I voted you for your jump on Ali. Your dislike of it doesn't mean it isn't valid.
This is arguing semantics. "You didn't say scummy, you said wrong-with"!
Stop. Just stop the bullshit man.

In your you said:
If you were Mason-hunting, I'd have moved my vote to you, by now.
This implies that you're now voting Ali because you think he's mason hunting and that if you thought I were, you would've moved your vote to me.

I don't even understand what you're saying in your last point. My point still stands though. I gave you an explanation, just because you don't find it satisfactory doesn't mean it isn't one or not valid.
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Post Post #428 (isolation #50) » Sun Jan 15, 2017 12:58 pm

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If we don't mislynch and all 3 masons are still alive Day 3, we have a legitimate chance to sweep :D
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Post Post #430 (isolation #51) » Sun Jan 15, 2017 1:45 pm

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In post 429, Empking wrote:
In post 426, Lil Uzi Vert wrote:This implies that you're now voting Ali because you think he's mason hunting and that if you thought I were, you would've moved your vote to me.
My vote is still on ali partly because of Mason-hunting.

However, your post was clearly implying that I was claiming that my vote was put on her for mason-hunting. Which iwould've have been true. But was not what I was claiming.

"What's wrong with my post" "It was suspicious" is not an explanation. Its a theasaurus. I assume your denials of this basic facts are trying to bait me. But I'm not sure why you'd go with something so banal.
No one is trying to bait you. I gave a reason and/or justification for what I found wrong about your vote. Instead of saying you don't like it or asking me to phrase it better, you continue to argue the meaning of the word.
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Post Post #433 (isolation #52) » Sun Jan 15, 2017 3:46 pm

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CMM
Moz
Snowman
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Post Post #437 (isolation #53) » Sun Jan 15, 2017 3:57 pm

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CMM and Snow are either lurking or have site flaked. I'm not a fan of lurker lynches, especially Day 1.
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Post Post #439 (isolation #54) » Sun Jan 15, 2017 4:02 pm

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Why is my answer bullshit?
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Post Post #442 (isolation #55) » Sun Jan 15, 2017 4:10 pm

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What is the scum motivation for giving such an obviously safe and easy answer then? :lol:
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Post Post #443 (isolation #56) » Sun Jan 15, 2017 4:12 pm

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In post 441, Alisae wrote:Also boring the "Copy someone's reads down" isn't bullshit. Scum could just copy down someone's reads to look like they are contributing. It's no effort. Not to mention it allows scum to sway the person who wants to quickly copy down the reads to think that x people are town when really they aren't. Plus it was like, 7 pages in. Anyone should have been able to read 7 pages in 7 minutes and develop reads.
You'd be surprised how hard it is to effectively read and analyze 5+ pages in less than 10 minutes.
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Post Post #446 (isolation #57) » Sun Jan 15, 2017 4:14 pm

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In post 444, Alisae wrote:to show no interest in gamesolving.
:neutral:

Scum would never want to show no interest.

--

What do you think about Snowman's case on BBT?
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Post Post #465 (isolation #58) » Tue Jan 17, 2017 5:22 pm

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In post 463, SnarkySnowman wrote:@LUV ali's right, that's shit reasoning. And Ali reads town on the callout

Also calling me lurker/no content is incorrect, I've identified reads n shit. I'm just a busy snowman.
Busy bringing people winter joy :cool:
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Post Post #467 (isolation #59) » Tue Jan 17, 2017 5:48 pm

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Post Post #606 (isolation #60) » Thu Jan 19, 2017 4:43 pm

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In post 478, BlueBloodedToffee wrote:
In post 251, Alisae wrote:Actually just skimmed Mick's ISO cuz he was one of the nerds I needed to relook at when I got the chance.
His vote was placed in the RVS stage which still concerns me.
I'm okay with running up snowman or Mick.
VOTE: Snowman
You're OK with running up CMM or Snowman...so why switch from CMM to Snowman?
In post 261, Lil Uzi Vert wrote: Why Grey here? It feels like you should voting for Fancy or Fitz right now.
Grey had a nice, shiny wagon going. We're on page 20 already and still nowhere near a lynch - town are in a pretty shitty position already and I was attempting to avoid that with early pressure and an early wagon/claim.
In post 263, Lil Uzi Vert wrote: Shade throwing and the hop on the Ali wagon.
Can you talk about where Emp is shade throwing? Can you also confirm that you're totally OK with Alisae's hop onto the Grey wagon and her voting of CMM/Snowman.
His .

What does Ali's voting patterns have to do with King's shade throwing?
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Post Post #607 (isolation #61) » Thu Jan 19, 2017 4:44 pm

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In post 534, Alisae wrote:I'm convinced BBT v Hawk is TvS. Can't figure out who the scum is in this situation.
So I'ma just sheep this
VOTE: Hawk
Was this another shitty attempt at reaction testing?
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Post Post #608 (isolation #62) » Thu Jan 19, 2017 4:44 pm

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In post 550, BlueBloodedToffee wrote:Hawk's rebuttal was mostly theory talk and wishy-washy comments that didn't really go anywhere. If I feel the need to respond to it later today when I have more time, I'll do so.

I haven't dodged your question - you asked why he is being lynched for coasting. I'm saying that's not why he is being lynched. What more do you want me to say?
? If so, I disagree. Hardly any theory or wishy washy stuff in there.

His rebuttal in itself is strong because the beliefs are clearly there and he showed a bit of accountablity. The reasoning he gave voting for King and Snow shows that he doesn't tolerate lurking or lack of content at all. He also showed how he came to his read on Fitz and even acknowledged that he probably looked into those questions asked at the time a bit too hard.
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Post Post #609 (isolation #63) » Thu Jan 19, 2017 4:45 pm

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Don't mine BBT. I feel he's one of Kings scumbuddies after a reread.

VOTE: BBT

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Post Post #611 (isolation #64) » Thu Jan 19, 2017 4:46 pm

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In post 601, Alisae wrote:Hawk what's up with the unusual amount of walls?
In post 604, Alisae wrote:It's not that...
It's just I don't remember you being the type of person to use walls
What's wrong with Hawk's walls? Why does it seem like you're trying to make a big deal out of nothing?
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Post Post #612 (isolation #65) » Thu Jan 19, 2017 4:46 pm

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In post 610, Alisae wrote:it was a shitty attempt to get you to call it a shitty attempt at reaction testing.
Touché.
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Post Post #614 (isolation #66) » Thu Jan 19, 2017 4:48 pm

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In post 613, Alisae wrote:UNVOTE:
My vote is there.
Claim in your next post

pedit: I'm not, I don't really SR for it, it's just wierdin me out for some reason.
Why did you unvote?
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Post Post #616 (isolation #67) » Thu Jan 19, 2017 4:51 pm

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I don't think anyone would've lolhammered after I bolded that he was at L-1.

Do you think we can get more out of the day?
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Post Post #618 (isolation #68) » Thu Jan 19, 2017 4:56 pm

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If you're confident BBT is scum, it doesn't matter.

I don't think there is but if you have someone you want to hear more from, now is the time to do it. I think there's only 3 days left until the deadline.
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Post Post #630 (isolation #69) » Fri Jan 20, 2017 1:22 am

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BBT spiteful!
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Post Post #634 (isolation #70) » Fri Jan 20, 2017 1:53 am

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All jokes aside, Ali should be looked at tomorrow.
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Post Post #636 (isolation #71) » Fri Jan 20, 2017 1:58 am

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My vote wouldn't count for one, BBT's been hammered.
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Post Post #640 (isolation #72) » Fri Jan 20, 2017 2:06 am

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Highly doubt that's town.
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Post Post #641 (isolation #73) » Fri Jan 20, 2017 2:06 am

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Where is the mod? We need a VC!
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Post Post #647 (isolation #74) » Fri Jan 20, 2017 2:41 am

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I've seen scum mope about being lynched before.

BBT's fake twilight posts felt more like laughing at being caught for the wrong reasons thing.
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Post Post #648 (isolation #75) » Fri Jan 20, 2017 2:41 am

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In post 642, -Grey- wrote:
In post 641, Lil Uzi Vert wrote:Where is the mod? We need a VC!
BBT is L-2.

I was already voting him when I "hammered".
I forgot who but I think someone said he was at L-2 before I voted.
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Post Post #655 (isolation #76) » Fri Jan 20, 2017 3:03 am

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In post 652, BlueBloodedToffee wrote:If I've been baited into prematurely claiming I can't even be bothered with this game. Clearly I'm not paying enough attention.
If you're town and feel like you aren't able to keep up anymore, replace out.
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Post Post #657 (isolation #77) » Fri Jan 20, 2017 3:08 am

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Why do you think I'm scum?
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Post Post #660 (isolation #78) » Fri Jan 20, 2017 3:11 am

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Why was it horrible?

No one seemed to want to lynch my biggest scum read anymore at the time and I felt you were one of King's partners after a reread so I decided to compromise.
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Post Post #664 (isolation #79) » Fri Jan 20, 2017 3:16 am

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So again, if you're town, replace out. You can ask the mod if you can spectate if you have no desire to play anymore.
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Post Post #667 (isolation #80) » Fri Jan 20, 2017 3:20 am

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We're giving you a chance here to redeem yourself and you're just pouting. Mistakes happen.
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Post Post #668 (isolation #81) » Fri Jan 20, 2017 3:26 am

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We have one person who thinks you're town and others who are willing to listen now. Work with us or replace out.
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Post Post #680 (isolation #82) » Fri Jan 20, 2017 5:37 am

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Based VC!
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Post Post #688 (isolation #83) » Fri Jan 20, 2017 7:00 am

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I didn't want to say why Ali should be looked at tomorrow because I wanted to prevent him from asking how he should deal with being reevaluated during the night.

Now that I know BBT wasn't hammered and will most likely be replaced, I'll say so now. I didn't like how Ali acted when I put BBT at L-1. He gave me a fairly generic answer for why he unvoted and then implied he wanted more out of the day. Doesn't do anything to accomplish that and immediately votes BBT again after he claims VT, mind you, without stating intent or giving everyone a chance to discuss the claim.
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Post Post #740 (isolation #84) » Fri Jan 20, 2017 4:05 pm

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7/11 :D
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Post Post #743 (isolation #85) » Fri Jan 20, 2017 4:09 pm

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I just want free slurpees man.
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Post Post #746 (isolation #86) » Fri Jan 20, 2017 5:06 pm

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5,100 posts :o
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Post Post #748 (isolation #87) » Fri Jan 20, 2017 5:08 pm

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I wish rb didn't get replaced to be honest.
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Post Post #750 (isolation #88) » Fri Jan 20, 2017 5:12 pm

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In post 749, boring wrote:LUV, what are your reads?
Lean Scum: Ali, FancyPants slot
Scum: King
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Post Post #761 (isolation #89) » Sat Jan 21, 2017 2:30 pm

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In post 757, Alisae wrote:
In post 750, Lil Uzi Vert wrote:Lean Scum: Ali
You just salty cuz you never saw a double rainbow before.
You wish :lol:
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Post Post #793 (isolation #90) » Tue Jan 24, 2017 8:09 pm

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boring :(
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Post Post #794 (isolation #91) » Tue Jan 24, 2017 8:09 pm

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VOTE: King

Going back to this.
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Post Post #795 (isolation #92) » Tue Jan 24, 2017 8:13 pm

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In post 785, Antihuman wrote:
In post 609, Lil Uzi Vert wrote:Don't mine BBT. I feel he's one of Kings scumbuddies after a reread.

VOTE: BBT

L-1
How did you figure they were related? How does BBT's flip affect your King read?
His , , and .

It doesn't affect it at all.
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Post Post #805 (isolation #93) » Wed Jan 25, 2017 12:43 pm

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In post 804, Empking wrote:
In post 795, Lil Uzi Vert wrote:
In post 785, Antihuman wrote:
In post 609, Lil Uzi Vert wrote:Don't mine BBT. I feel he's one of Kings scumbuddies after a reread.

VOTE: BBT

L-1
How did you figure they were related? How does BBT's flip affect your King read?
His , , and .

It doesn't affect it at all.
If BBT flipping scum would have strengthened your read on me then an intelectually honest person trying to determine people's alignments would be forced to decrease his read on me, btw.

Vote: Ali
- Nothing's changed on that front.
I have no idea what you're trying to say.
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Post Post #808 (isolation #94) » Wed Jan 25, 2017 1:01 pm

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Yeah I still don't understand.

The reasons I'm scum reading you have barely anything to do with BBT. I don't see why his flip would make me reconsider why I was scum reading you.
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Post Post #841 (isolation #95) » Thu Jan 26, 2017 9:09 am

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In post 809, Empking wrote:
In post 808, Lil Uzi Vert wrote:Yeah I still don't understand.

The reasons I'm scum reading you have barely anything to do with BBT. I don't see why his flip would make me reconsider why I was scum reading you.
Would BBT flipping scum have increased your read on me?
Probably not.
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Post Post #842 (isolation #96) » Thu Jan 26, 2017 9:10 am

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In post 821, Alisae wrote:Good reasons.
You wanna know who also has been lacking pro-town play?
Snowman and Mick.
Why did you deflect here? He was talking about you, not them.
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Post Post #847 (isolation #97) » Thu Jan 26, 2017 10:28 am

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VOTE: Alisae
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Post Post #851 (isolation #98) » Thu Jan 26, 2017 1:27 pm

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In post 848, Alisae wrote:OH! SO NOW YOU'RE ATTACKING ME FOR PLAYSTYLE.
HI SCUM!UZI, HOW ARE YOU DOING TODAY?
MIND HOLDING THIS OMGUS FOR ME?
VOTE: Lil Uzi Vert
Who's attacking you? I simply naked voted. I didn't say a word with my vote.
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Post Post #852 (isolation #99) » Thu Jan 26, 2017 1:27 pm

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In post 849, -Grey- wrote:VOTE: Uzi

Get off the mason.
Got news for you :lol:
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Post Post #896 (isolation #100) » Fri Jan 27, 2017 3:44 pm

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Snowman is town.
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Post Post #899 (isolation #101) » Fri Jan 27, 2017 3:48 pm

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In post 898, Alisae wrote:
In post 896, Lil Uzi Vert wrote:Snowman is town.
Because?
Not important right now.

Continuing to sort you and King is more important right now.
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Post Post #902 (isolation #102) » Fri Jan 27, 2017 3:52 pm

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That we do Ali.

Now why do you want to lynch Moz?
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Post Post #981 (isolation #103) » Sun Jan 29, 2017 3:35 am

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In post 944, Grendel wrote:
@Alisae, LUV, other ppl town reading Mozamis


Why are you town reading Moz?
Alisae wrote: Here is why: Grey attempts to buddy the "mason", makes no attempt to figure out what he missed, sheeps the "mason", and then 180s the "mason"
Seriously, if Grey was town he would have actually payed attention to when I said I wasn't a mason.
I don't see any town motivation behind his actions.
Is Grey just _shockingly_ less observant as mafia then he is as town? Do you really think that Town!Grey is more likely to pick up on things you're saying then Scum!Grey?

Imo, most players are as observant as one alignment as another. I'm pretty sure you're just seeing what you want to see and not what's there.
Moz is town because of his tone, his reads, and just how he's been playing. Not a hint of malice or wrongful intentions in his tone and his reads are not only clear to follow as well as logical, they're explained in a very similar fashion in another game I was in with him where he was town. A lot of the questions he's asked don't feel like busywork ones and I doubt scum!Moz would go back and analyze what was essentially a policy lynch wagon just to push Fitz.
In post 945, Grendel wrote:
LUV


Where do you stand on Empking, and Aliase currently?
Both scum in my opinion. King hasn't really done much since he was ran up earlier and based on my experiences with him, this is his scum game. Though I've never seen his town game so I may be wrong. He possibly could just have a play style that tends to get him scum read quite a bit but I don't have time to meta dive and verify that currently.

I'm feeling Ali for scum because I don't like Ali's voting pattern toward the end of Day 1 as well as his recent deflecting.
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Post Post #982 (isolation #104) » Sun Jan 29, 2017 3:41 am

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In post 965, Alisae wrote:
In post 964, Grendel wrote:I was distinctly getting a "how dare you", plus a hint of smug, "I should've known" from that post lol.
And I'm not. That's one hell of a reach there mister.

New townbloc: Fitz, Uzi, Moz, Snowman, Empking, Hawk, AH
Scumbloc: Mick, Grey, Grendal.
King is not town. Mick is town.

Talk to me a bit more about your read on Grendal. I've seen him play like this as scum but that was way back. My first Newbie I believe where I was really bad at the game.
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Post Post #986 (isolation #105) » Sun Jan 29, 2017 7:47 am

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In post 984, Empking wrote:LUV: Have we played a completed game together?
Yes.
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Post Post #996 (isolation #106) » Mon Jan 30, 2017 3:08 am

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In post 990, Grendel wrote:Why is everybody misspelling my name?

Its "Grendel", really not that hard.

@Moz That was the conclusion that most those on the wagon decided it was. I can't say I disagree, b/c BBT looked pretty town going down. Just being useless town.

I don't think you answered this yet:
In post 956, Grendel wrote:
In post 948, mozamis wrote:grendel prob town
wrong, but prob town. faking that sort of shit as scum is hard.
Outside of my read for you specifically what do you feel is wrong with my reads?

Are the reads you've been hold apply retroactively?

Ei, same reads as last time.
I know, but it has been somewhat effective for me.

I like the questions in his , , , and . I know these are fairly easy or safe questions but his overall tone just makes me feel their genuine and like he's trying to sort them.

I don't think scum!Moz would push someone over that specific policy lynch wagon or a policy lynch in general because I don't think wanting to lynch someone who advocated for one rarely goes through when the collective consensus didn't mine or wanted it as well.
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Post Post #997 (isolation #107) » Mon Jan 30, 2017 3:10 am

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In post 995, havingfitz wrote:3 day weekends/vla's are grrrrrrrrreat!
Catching up in 3 games not so much.

So we had Ali at L-1 and let the wagon shrink. Ffs.

Hawk...why moz over Ali? Do you still sr Ali?

I think LUV is town. Leaning town on CMM...maybe Empking.
Snowman seems like lynchbait in all the games I've seen him in. So not a fan of his short lived wagon.
What are your thoughts on Grey again?
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Post Post #1028 (isolation #108) » Mon Jan 30, 2017 5:53 pm

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In post 1018, Alisae wrote:
@MOD not feeling this game, replace me out please
In post 1020, -Grey- wrote:
@MOD not feeling this game, replace me out please
:igmeou:
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Post Post #1035 (isolation #109) » Tue Jan 31, 2017 7:09 am

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Option B please.
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Post Post #1049 (isolation #110) » Fri Feb 03, 2017 5:54 am

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VOTE: King

Will explain later.
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Post Post #1057 (isolation #111) » Fri Feb 03, 2017 7:03 am

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Thought we were in LYLO for some reason.

King is scum for the same reasons as before and now the Ali flip. Hawk is town. Mick is town.
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Post Post #1058 (isolation #112) » Fri Feb 03, 2017 7:04 am

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Scum is in Fitz, King, MB, and Moz.
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Post Post #1125 (isolation #113) » Mon Feb 06, 2017 6:00 am

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Prod received. Will get to this today, got caught up with Boston sports yesterday :D
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Post Post #1128 (isolation #114) » Mon Feb 06, 2017 4:29 pm

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In post 1059, MathBlade wrote:
In post 1058, Lil Uzi Vert wrote:Scum is in Fitz, King, MB, and Moz.
That world you are posing doesn't make sense.

Explain why my slot busses and ConManMick completely ignores Fitz. Hint: Because Grey didn't bus because he and I are Town.

ConManMick and Fitz I do not see separated like that. Doesn't make sense.

You said you could have reasons later. State them. Saying you did is something you could have said the first time. I want your reasons.
Grey is unpredictable. Him bussing and replacing out isn't definitely out of the realm of possibility.

CMM ignoring Fitz is completely NAI. I've ignored Fitz and I've also ignored Anti for the most part.
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Post Post #1135 (isolation #115) » Tue Feb 07, 2017 2:14 am

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In post 1132, Empking wrote:I would hope that everything involving someone replacing out would be NAI.
It's not why I'm scum reading the Grey slot. It has just come down to PoE.
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Post Post #1137 (isolation #116) » Tue Feb 07, 2017 3:01 am

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In post 1136, havingfitz wrote:
In post 1125, Lil Uzi Vert wrote:Prod received. Will get to this today, got caught up with Boston sports yesterday :D
You in the Boston area LUV?
In post 1126, SnarkySnowman wrote:That supah bowl was wicked pissah. I'll be at the parade tomorrah
I thought about going today but fighting crowds and shit weather changed that.
Yep. Right around Lexington.
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Post Post #1139 (isolation #117) » Tue Feb 07, 2017 4:10 am

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In post 1138, mozamis wrote:
In post 1128, Lil Uzi Vert wrote:I've ignored Fitz and I've also ignored Anti for the most part.
why? you mean they are null for you, or not on your radar or what?
They haven't really pinged me much. Anti did on his entrance but has been much better since then.
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Post Post #1141 (isolation #118) » Tue Feb 07, 2017 4:18 am

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In post 1140, mozamis wrote:
In post 1130, MathBlade wrote:You ignoring everyone is S.O.P.
what is S.O.P?

@ Lil - Fitz is still in my "possible scum" pile for his getting off BBT wagon after he expressly said he wanted a policy lynch. Still struggling to see town doing that. What do you reckon?
Could be possible. I'm not sure though, a few of us were reluctant to lynch BBT after he basically gave up.
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Post Post #1144 (isolation #119) » Tue Feb 07, 2017 5:13 am

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In post 1143, tojam2 wrote:
Superbowl? Is that american football (excuse my Britishness). Too busy watching IEM.
Yes!
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Post Post #1148 (isolation #120) » Tue Feb 07, 2017 5:24 am

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Hey, sports > mafia but sure why not.

VOTE: Fitz
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Post Post #1155 (isolation #121) » Tue Feb 07, 2017 12:53 pm

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Can we lynch King now?
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Post Post #1157 (isolation #122) » Tue Feb 07, 2017 1:20 pm

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In post 1156, MathBlade wrote:
In post 1155, Lil Uzi Vert wrote:Can we lynch King now?
Do you has reasons?
Already gave them before and he's literally scum from PoE
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Post Post #1159 (isolation #123) » Tue Feb 07, 2017 2:49 pm

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They're before you replaced in.
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Post Post #1160 (isolation #124) » Tue Feb 07, 2017 2:50 pm

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MB if you can't see it I don't know what to tell but there is a reason I'm confident that CMM, Snow, and Hawk are town. I'm willing to bet the game on it.
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Post Post #1162 (isolation #125) » Tue Feb 07, 2017 2:53 pm

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I can't, this setup prevents me from doing so. Just sheep and if we're wrong we can follow you tomorrow after we narrow the lynch pool.
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Post Post #1164 (isolation #126) » Tue Feb 07, 2017 3:02 pm

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Fine, we'll just lynch Fitz and I'll do the thing Day 3.
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Post Post #1166 (isolation #127) » Tue Feb 07, 2017 3:08 pm

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:roll:
In post 1165, MathBlade wrote:
In post 1164, Lil Uzi Vert wrote:Fine, we'll just lynch Fitz and I'll do the thing Day 3.
Or you can provide reasons now.

There's masons VTs and mafia. That's it. There is no "thing" you can do today except provide reasons. Since ya know Day 3 is today.
Day 4 :roll:

No there is a thing and it doesn't matter if we fuck up today because it's an auto win if I do it tomorrow.
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Post Post #1167 (isolation #128) » Tue Feb 07, 2017 3:14 pm

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@Mod: VC?
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Post Post #1182 (isolation #129) » Wed Feb 08, 2017 8:28 am

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Giga?
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Post Post #1190 (isolation #130) » Wed Feb 08, 2017 11:55 am

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I'm here.

Listen, Hawk is town for how he handled the BBT push earlier and for a very specific reason.

King is scum, I am positive he is.
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Post Post #1191 (isolation #131) » Wed Feb 08, 2017 11:56 am

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The only problem is your slot MB because Grey is unpredictable as hell.
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Post Post #1193 (isolation #132) » Wed Feb 08, 2017 12:02 pm

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In post 1192, gigabyteTroubadour wrote:
In post 1191, Lil Uzi Vert wrote:The only problem is your slot MB because Grey is unpredictable as hell.
uzi do you agree it's likely moz/fitz/emp?

least sure about moz being scum but everyone who dies seemed to be scumreading him?

like there has to be a reason a mason hasnt died yet - boring was obvious town so i can see why theyd opt to kill her over a mason but why grendel?

btw the extent i've read mathblade is ctrl-fing "fuck" in grey's iso and seeing 13 results in one page. meta analysis concludes town.
Has to be at 2 scum in there.

Grendal was probably killed because he was never going to get lynched.
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Post Post #1196 (isolation #133) » Wed Feb 08, 2017 12:07 pm

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In post 1194, gigabyteTroubadour wrote:but like

over confirmed town??

i dont understand why a scumteam is suicidal enough to not kill in the masonry because i literally didnt read shit and i'm like 99.9% sure i found the scumteam

boring was a potential recruit target so that at least makes sense

but grendel ?????????? it has to be deliberate

also if theres only two in that team, who's your backup scumread? mb?
I have no clue why to be honest.

I can't decided between Moz/MB/your slot. I'm pretty sure it isn't Hawk.
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Post Post #1199 (isolation #134) » Wed Feb 08, 2017 12:13 pm

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VOTE: Moz
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Post Post #1220 (isolation #135) » Wed Feb 08, 2017 12:56 pm

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Moz just give up. I know King wanted to but couldn't and is probably pissed the game still isn't finished.
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Post Post #1247 (isolation #136) » Thu Feb 09, 2017 6:40 am

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In post 1229, MathBlade wrote:
In post 1190, Lil Uzi Vert wrote:I'm here.

Listen, Hawk is town for how he handled the BBT push earlier and for a very specific reason.

King is scum, I am positive he is.
If you are so positive King is scum why are you moving off of Fitz and onto moz? Neither of those are King and I am still missing reasons.

Aren't you guys the least bit concerned we had Fitz who was at L-1 til Uzi moved off?

Are scum deliberately trying to no lynch this?
MB, the game is solved. The only doubt is your slot.
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Post Post #1265 (isolation #137) » Thu Feb 09, 2017 9:44 am

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Moz just give up :lol:
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Post Post #1267 (isolation #138) » Thu Feb 09, 2017 10:03 am

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You know as well I do that if this was any other setup I'd be scum hunting right now.
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Post Post #1279 (isolation #139) » Thu Feb 09, 2017 11:41 am

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The game is solved though, that's why I've asked you twice to give up.

There is no way it's Hawk and if I'm alive tomorrow I'll explain why. Giga's slot was fairly town before Anti site flaked. If you're town you would realize that it has to be Fitz/Giga/King.
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Post Post #1280 (isolation #140) » Thu Feb 09, 2017 11:41 am

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King is confirmed scum and I have actual meta on him. I've caught him as scum twice.
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Post Post #1281 (isolation #141) » Thu Feb 09, 2017 11:42 am

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Fitz was also scum in one of those games with King.
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Post Post #1283 (isolation #142) » Thu Feb 09, 2017 11:48 am

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It could still be MB as well solely because Grey replacing out as scum is something he would do.
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Post Post #1285 (isolation #143) » Thu Feb 09, 2017 11:55 am

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I was actually fairly surprised by the boring kill to be honest but that's just because I've rolled scum with her as before. My mind was telling me boring was town but my gut didn't trust her at all.
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Post Post #1286 (isolation #144) » Thu Feb 09, 2017 11:55 am

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In post 1285, Lil Uzi Vert wrote:I was actually fairly surprised by the boring kill to be honest but that's just because I've rolled scum with her before. My mind was telling me boring was town but my gut didn't trust her at all.
EBWOP.
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Post Post #1293 (isolation #145) » Thu Feb 09, 2017 2:33 pm

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*resisting urge to replace out*

Should we do the thing now guys?
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Post Post #1300 (isolation #146) » Thu Feb 09, 2017 2:42 pm

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In post 1299, havingfitz wrote:
In post 1279, Lil Uzi Vert wrote:it has to be Fitz
Who's scum if I'm not (cause I'm not)?
Giga or MB.
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Post Post #1303 (isolation #147) » Thu Feb 09, 2017 2:48 pm

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In post 1301, havingfitz wrote:
In post 1300, Lil Uzi Vert wrote:
In post 1299, havingfitz wrote:
In post 1279, Lil Uzi Vert wrote:it has to be Fitz
Who's scum if I'm not (cause I'm not)?
Giga or MB.
You had already said Giga and Empking. So if I'm town (I am) your scum reads would be MB, Giga and EMpking?
No if you're town scum is either one of Giga or MB, Moz, and King.
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Post Post #1306 (isolation #148) » Thu Feb 09, 2017 2:55 pm

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I was saying from Moz's perspective if he sees what is fairly obvious :roll:
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Post Post #1320 (isolation #149) » Thu Feb 09, 2017 3:08 pm

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@MB: No if you're town you need to read it now. We desperately need you to get one step closer to being on the same page with us.
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Post Post #1323 (isolation #150) » Thu Feb 09, 2017 3:12 pm

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No just read it and silently nod.
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Post Post #1325 (isolation #151) » Thu Feb 09, 2017 3:13 pm

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BBT was policy. Ali was because we weren't granted Option B.
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Post Post #1326 (isolation #152) » Thu Feb 09, 2017 3:14 pm

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This game would have gone down a lot differently if we had lynched King D1.
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Post Post #1332 (isolation #153) » Thu Feb 09, 2017 3:16 pm

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King hanging out in the background is part of his scum game.
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Post Post #1333 (isolation #154) » Thu Feb 09, 2017 3:17 pm

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Snowman is a strong TR of ours, that is why we are trusting him on Moz.
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Post Post #1338 (isolation #155) » Thu Feb 09, 2017 3:18 pm

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MB :facepalm:
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Post Post #1343 (isolation #156) » Thu Feb 09, 2017 3:22 pm

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@MB: Reread page 18.
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Post Post #1356 (isolation #157) » Thu Feb 09, 2017 3:44 pm

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Fine we'll just work around you. Hawk please vote Moz when you get back.
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Post Post #1364 (isolation #158) » Thu Feb 09, 2017 3:55 pm

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Not completely ruling out Giga but Anti's slot was fairly town.
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Post Post #1375 (isolation #159) » Thu Feb 09, 2017 4:09 pm

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In post 1366, MathBlade wrote:Anti was nonexistent.
Not true. Have you read his ISO?
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Post Post #1376 (isolation #160) » Thu Feb 09, 2017 4:10 pm

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In post 1370, mozamis wrote:
In post 1364, Lil Uzi Vert wrote:Not completely ruling out Giga but Anti's slot was fairly town.
@ Uzi gotta hope not, but what about giga and math? They're both experienced players. I will be FUCKING FURIOUS if they are taking the piss out of us.
Though grey looked really town so prob not i guess. Just not sure i love all this back and forth between them.
Lol so if you think they're scum help convince Snowman on King.
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Post Post #1425 (isolation #161) » Fri Feb 10, 2017 5:06 am

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Lmao King
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Post Post #1426 (isolation #162) » Fri Feb 10, 2017 5:06 am

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I'm literally cracking up right now
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Post Post #1440 (isolation #163) » Mon Feb 13, 2017 4:21 am

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VOTE: Moz

@Mod: I'll be v/LA till the 16th. Valentines Day.
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Post Post #1466 (isolation #164) » Mon Feb 13, 2017 6:46 am

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Confirming.

Hawk is town for blatantly pointing out and publicly noting one of my crumbs.
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Post Post #1469 (isolation #165) » Mon Feb 13, 2017 6:46 am

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MB I'm a mason, I've been softing since D1.
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Post Post #1473 (isolation #166) » Mon Feb 13, 2017 6:49 am

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In post 32, Lil Uzi Vert wrote:It was too obvious and it wasn't what RVS needed at the time. More CMM jokes would've been better.
In post 286, Lil Uzi Vert wrote:I'm not bending over backwards, I just really don't like mislynches and Ali feels like one. Same with Snowman. He will be replaced if he continues to be inactive and/or lurk.

Join me on King.
In post 316, Lil Uzi Vert wrote:Moz's vote on CMM was bad but that's the only thing really. I've liked everything else I've seen from him.
In post 356, Lil Uzi Vert wrote:
In post 354, Alisae wrote:
In post 352, Lil Uzi Vert wrote:
In post 351, Alisae wrote:
In post 349, Lil Uzi Vert wrote:
In post 344, Alisae wrote:Do you really want me to say it?
I know what you're hinting at and if so, you're wrong. I would've mentioned her by now.
Do you want me to say it, yes or no?
Just say it :lol:
Okay.
You, BBT, and boring are masons.
Yeah no.

Never do that again :lol:
In post 358, Lil Uzi Vert wrote:The masons are probably just hanging low due to them knowing they're confirmed town.
In post 428, Lil Uzi Vert wrote:If we don't mislynch and all 3 masons are still alive Day 3, we have a legitimate chance to sweep :D
In post 433, Lil Uzi Vert wrote:CMM
Moz
Snowman
In post 437, Lil Uzi Vert wrote:CMM and Snow are either lurking or have site flaked. I'm not a fan of lurker lynches, especially Day 1.
In post 896, Lil Uzi Vert wrote:Snowman is town.
In post 899, Lil Uzi Vert wrote:
In post 898, Alisae wrote:
In post 896, Lil Uzi Vert wrote:Snowman is town.
Because?
Not important right now.

Continuing to sort you and King is more important right now.
In post 982, Lil Uzi Vert wrote:
In post 965, Alisae wrote:
In post 964, Grendel wrote:I was distinctly getting a "how dare you", plus a hint of smug, "I should've known" from that post lol.
And I'm not. That's one hell of a reach there mister.

New townbloc: Fitz, Uzi, Moz, Snowman, Empking, Hawk, AH
Scumbloc: Mick, Grey, Grendal.
King is not town. Mick is town.

Talk to me a bit more about your read on Grendal. I've seen him play like this as scum but that was way back. My first Newbie I believe where I was really bad at the game.
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Post Post #1474 (isolation #167) » Mon Feb 13, 2017 6:49 am

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More crumbs!
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Post Post #1493 (isolation #168) » Mon Feb 13, 2017 7:13 am

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King or Moz today.

MB I swear if we lose this because of you :mad:
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Post Post #1496 (isolation #169) » Mon Feb 13, 2017 7:17 am

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They're scum. It's just a matter of who is scum between you and Giga.
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Post Post #1499 (isolation #170) » Mon Feb 13, 2017 7:23 am

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You and Giga's predecessors speak for themselves and I'm pretty sure this is Hawk's town game.

Mick and Snowman have wanted Moz since D1, I've wanted King since D1. I'm going to give in here to Snowman today.
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Post Post #1556 (isolation #171) » Tue Feb 14, 2017 3:14 am

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I'm ready to end the day. I'm just gonna write this game off if Moz flips town here because the plan I had incase that happened is gone now thanks to MB strongarming the Fitz lynch.
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Post Post #1567 (isolation #172) » Tue Feb 14, 2017 5:05 am

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@Hawk: I'm leaning toward Moz just because Mick and Snowman have wanted him since D1 in the mason PT :(
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Post Post #1568 (isolation #173) » Tue Feb 14, 2017 5:06 am

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Anti was fairly town but Grey not so much and as I've said before, his unpredictably makes me think he's the last scum.
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Post Post #1569 (isolation #174) » Tue Feb 14, 2017 5:07 am

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Like if Moz is town here I just think I have the best reads ever since I thought he was town up until D3 :lol:
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Post Post #1662 (isolation #175) » Wed Feb 15, 2017 7:10 am

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In post 1556, Lil Uzi Vert wrote:I'm ready to end the day. I'm just gonna write this game off if Moz flips town here because the plan I had incase that happened is gone now thanks to MB strongarming the Fitz lynch.
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Post Post #1664 (isolation #176) » Wed Feb 15, 2017 7:46 am

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Screw youuuu BBT
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Post Post #1665 (isolation #177) » Wed Feb 15, 2017 7:47 am

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Screw youuuuu MB
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Post Post #1680 (isolation #178) » Wed Feb 15, 2017 8:32 am

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Lmao MB
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Post Post #1876 (isolation #179) » Thu Feb 23, 2017 7:41 am

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In post 1847, Infinity 324 wrote:Scum just had the issue of failing to kill the masons and hawk and giga being obvtown, so that by d3 there were 5 unlynchable slots. There wasn't much you guys could do at that point.
This

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@Grey: I knew you were scum based on your reaction to me saying I had read one of your recent scum games.

Good game everyone! :D
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Post Post #1886 (isolation #180) » Thu Feb 23, 2017 9:36 am

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I'm not authorized to read :(
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Post Post #1894 (isolation #181) » Thu Feb 23, 2017 9:59 am

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BBT is the only person who played poorly.
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Post Post #1897 (isolation #182) » Thu Feb 23, 2017 10:03 am

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Don't get too down on yourself Grey. Scum play is hard.
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Post Post #1902 (isolation #183) » Thu Feb 23, 2017 10:27 am

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- Look town. Sounds easy but you'd be surprise how people fail to do this.
- Be able to read how people are reacting to you.
- Ignore your partners. Pretend they don't even exist.
- Mislead, misdirect, and manipulate.
- Be able to act genuinely confused and frustrated.
- Abuse WIFOM.

I feel if people are able to do all the above really well, there would be a lot more scum wins on this site.
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Post Post #1915 (isolation #184) » Thu Feb 23, 2017 12:39 pm

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Scum play is more fun lol.
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