In Memory

[The DEO]

Delayed death having its own instructions most likely means

Drealmerz shot Lycanfire at night >> Country stays together for the next day phase << That is what needs explaining.

~~Math this and prior post

[The DEO]

@mod what does country stay together for the next day phase mean?

[Frozen Angel]

If he said he was going to use redirection and no one claims that something vanalized him last night

But that makes this question

why he didn't flip as turned vanilla?

pedit : delayed death means if you die in phase X you will die after phase X+1 finishes. Thats obvious and its explained in role pm. There is no other "it's own instruction" ...

[Frozen Angel]

@mod what does country stay together for the next day phase mean?

RC can you please answer the questions I asked about vanalizer and stuff as well?

[The DEO]

I think that means treestump FA. But let's wait on RC to clarify.

The reason it is called delayed death is because of the combo if he is lynched.

~~Math

[The DEO]

If he said he was going to use redirection and no one claims that something vanalized him last night

But that makes this question

why he didn't flip as turned vanilla?

pedit : delayed death means if you die in phase X you will die after phase X+1 finishes. Thats obvious and its explained in role pm. There is no other "it's own instruction" ...

Delayed Death is literally different in KTS's and Lycanfire's role PMs. Not sure where you are getting Lycanfire's has to be that.

~~Math

[Frozen Angel]

@mod what does country stay together for the next day phase mean?

If he was treestumped RC would say he is treestumped not killed

pedit : Lycan fire role pm is clear. KTS was 1 shot Delayed Deathproof not "delayed death"

[drealmerz7]

DEO you're making it more complicated than it is

some sort of soft-vanillaize or mute-make ability makes the most sense to me

or he's just not talking

I definitely know less about how things generally work though than (MB, FA, smith, at least) - so don't let me stop you all from going over it all for sure, I'm curious and if it helps actually figure things out scum-wise, I'm all for it (unless it starts to get in the way of the scumhunt - which is not even close I think yet)

[The DEO]

@RC activate my day ability

Right after he says he won't be taken alive he says update his day ability.

If Lycanfire was actually dayvigged not nightvigged and then Drealmerz was redirected to himself again post death that also explains it.

@Drealmerz -- Are you a day or night vig?

[Frozen Angel]

DEO you're making it more complicated than it is

some sort of soft-vanillaize or mute-make ability makes the most sense to me

or he's just not talking

I definitely know less about how things generally work though than (MB, FA, smith, at least) - so don't let me stop you all from going over it all for sure, I'm curious and if it helps actually figure things out scum-wise, I'm all for it (unless it starts to get in the way of the scumhunt - which is not even close I think yet)

It is scum hunting ... >.>

[Frozen Angel]

@RC activate my day ability

Right after he says he won't be taken alive he says update his day ability.

If Lycanfire was actually dayvigged not nightvigged and then Drealmerz was redirected to himself again post death that also explains it.

@Drealmerz -- Are you a day or night vig?

he had no day ability?

what

[Frozen Angel]

He was obviously bluffing something

he had no day ability

[The DEO]

It says if Lycanfire died during the day he could activate his night power the next night.

So if Drealmerz shot him during the day and then got redirected at night to kill him again...He would kill a dead body.

~~Math

[Frozen Angel]

The only way that kill makes sense is that he was day vigged - the role pm doesn't say anything about what will happen after a day kill

so drelam shot was extra kill or mafia kill

or his passive was somehow shuted down.

[Frozen Angel]

It says "if lynched"

[The DEO]

Which is why it is important to establish if this is a day or night vig from Drealmerz. I really do not like the Drealmerz slot and my suggestion that he may have killed someone and therefore be scum is met with the same apatheticness in ttyl and at the end of that game he came up with a claim that was believable. So I want him to say if he day or night vigged Lycanfire.

[drealmerz7]

cool, FA, then keep at it!

DEO - I killed him last night and I already said this - geebus, why do you ask questions that have been answered?? you didn't replace in, you seem to be following along, I don't understand the question other than to antagonize me

[Frozen Angel]

yes something is really wrong with this death which makes drealm first suspect.

But if it was a day kill why he claimed it was vigged? I need to read the part of game I didn't yet and I like to see others opinions about this and RC's answers

[The DEO]

I want him to provide the fact of if it is a day or night vig before RC comes beck with the answers.

And furthermore if his vig can power through death effects.

I want Drealmerz to claim just the parts he already said he used first and then try to figure out what happened.

[Frozen Angel]

he said like four times it was a night kill from what I've read so far. :/

[The DEO]

Pedit: I am asking because it doesn't add up unless Lycanfire is a treestump or you killed him twice.

Once to trigger death then again to stop the next day forming stuff that is not explained.

[drealmerz7]

can you explain to me why it makes me suspect???!!

I'm starting to get frustrated and that is not good...

OMFG I'm about to vote you DEO

[Frozen Angel]

and he explicity claimed his vig was just a streight kill and nothing else

[Frozen Angel]

Pedit: I am asking because it doesn't add up unless Lycanfire is a treestump or you killed him twice.

Once to trigger death then again to stop the next day forming stuff that is not explained.

again

Lycan had no need to be killed TWICE

he just had a DELAYED death

[The DEO]

The fact you just claimed it and didn't freak out about delayed death also worries me.

Why weren't you investigating how the guy died?

~~Math