In Memory

[Frozen Angel]

and killing someone who is going to die anyway (cause he is killed before hand) is not a failed killed. its just a duplicate one.

and I beleive thats the case here - if you are telling the truth about the timing of your kill

[drealmerz7]

why Drealmerz isn't hunting why his vig did what it did.

I already did all there was to do in regards to this

you want me to fucking spend 5 hours talking about it repeatedly over and over and over until everyone agrees with me like you do?

NO

I presented my thoughts

THAT'S ALL I HAVE

maybe give it some time, allow some OTHER PEOPLE TO PLAY THE GAME and generate content around it and things will change, but, you're just like 'OMG ALL NOW OR BUST!! WHY AREN'T YOU AS OBSESSED AS I AM?!?!"

you're either badtown or scum, and I'm leaning more and more scum

[Frozen Angel]

The whole not a treestump is not something I buy without moderator explanation because it sure sounds like a treestump post flip. I don't know the mechanics of the delayed death but a double death to me seems if someone is still alive on the first shot hit again they die makes sense.

Either way I want an answer.

~~Math

@mod: If Lycanfire was killed at night and then killed at night again would that flip him instantly and then country doesn't reform?

....

:/



I don't care what you buy or you won't. That is what is true. delayed has an obvious definition. treestump has one as well and mod is RC and I trust him.

[The DEO]

This is the first time I have posted more than 30 minutes in a week I think.

I am letting people play. All I want are my questions answered.

http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=69031

Frozen Angel there is a Drealmerz scum game.

~~Math

[The DEO]

I trust RC too. I don't like the implication.

It looks like treestump+ and it got called delayed death.

~~Math

[Vaxkiller]

DEO, you think lycan was vigged and NK'd?

[Frozen Angel]

I want to see if he knew mods won't inform of failures regularly or not atm. I don't care about his scum meta (though Thats helpful actually I might read that later when I have time and I feel better)

pedit : Delayed death is delayed death and its defined in that role pm as well

treestump is treestump and its Treestump! >.>

[drealmerz7]

no you wouldn't receive pm if that failed

I want a link to other games you played before - and tell what were you in them exactly (link the ones you were a Power role in)

ok that is good to know

and ugh, that is annoying, I play all my games differently pretty much, would prefer you to just talk to me about whatever is on your mind, but, I can go find a few I guess...

[The DEO]

DEO, you think lycan was vigged and NK'd?

I do. I find it is the most plausible explanation for no scumkill. Except I don't think scum would shoot there.

To me the simplest explanation is Drealmerz is lying.

~~Math

[drealmerz7]

I want to see if he knew mods won't inform of failures regularly or not atm.

oh yeah I have no fucking clue about any of that shit, I come from a different HS where things are different in many regards too

and while I've played some games here, not many with PRs and I don't know at all what is considered "normal" (I've been back and forth with a couple helpful mods to iron out my first normal submission beacuse I wasn't even aware of a lot of things about how this site works)

[Frozen Angel]

no you wouldn't receive pm if that failed

I want a link to other games you played before - and tell what were you in them exactly (link the ones you were a Power role in)

ok that is good to know

and ugh, that is annoying, I play all my games differently pretty much, would prefer you to just talk to me about whatever is on your mind, but, I can go find a few I guess...

I don't care about your meta

I'm interested in your general mafia knowledge

[The DEO]

I want to see if he knew mods won't inform of failures regularly or not atm. I don't care about his scum meta (though Thats helpful actually I might read that later when I have time and I feel better)

pedit : Delayed death is delayed death and its defined in that role pm as well

treestump is treestump and its Treestump! >.>

Repeating the same thing 10 times doesn't help FA. That flip to me reads treestump just without the word and is called delayed death because of the If lynched part.

~~Math

[Vaxkiller]

I do. I find it is the most plausible explanation for no scumkill. Except I don't think scum would shoot there.

To me the simplest explanation is Drealmerz is lying.

The most plausible explanation? If dreal is lying he has to be scum, if hes scum why would they waste a vig shot and NK on lycan, who was lynch bait anyway?

[The DEO]

The mod will clear it up anyway. Whether Lycanfire is or is not a treestump should be a mod answerable question along with when he died.
Arguing this is not beneficial.

~~Math

[drealmerz7]

DEO, you think lycan was vigged and NK'd?

I do. I find it is the most plausible explanation for no scumkill. Except I don't think scum would shoot there.

To me the simplest explanation is Drealmerz is lying.

~~Math

I really have a hard time following this - I can't see what you're thinking

you say "no scumkill" but then, by your logic, isn't lycan the scumkill and I'm lying about my vig timing?

what is my lie? ugh this is realllly frusrtating

MB, check yourself if you're town, I think you just get lost on crazy theories to explain things

to me this just feels like scum pushing an agenda hardcore though

[The DEO]

I do. I find it is the most plausible explanation for no scumkill. Except I don't think scum would shoot there.

To me the simplest explanation is Drealmerz is lying.

The most plausible explanation? If dreal is lying he has to be scum, if hes scum why would they waste a vig shot and NK on lycan, who was lynch bait anyway?

Which makes me think Drealmerz didn't have a choice and was redirected. I doubt Lycanfire would not use his redirection ability.

~~Math

[Frozen Angel]

I want to see if he knew mods won't inform of failures regularly or not atm.

oh yeah I have no fucking clue about any of that shit, I come from a different HS where things are different in many regards too

and while I've played some games here, not many with PRs and I don't know at all what is considered "normal" (I've been back and forth with a couple helpful mods to iron out my first normal submission beacuse I wasn't even aware of a lot of things about how this site works)

I'm still intrested to have links to inside MS games which you were a Power role in them

pedit : if he was treestumped now Rc would say he is still in game but as a treestump (for now) when day started. he didn't

he flipped him and said he is dead so he is dead.

[drealmerz7]

omg you're either super-bad town or scum holyfuck it hurts

@ the DEO

[The DEO]

DEO, you think lycan was vigged and NK'd?

I do. I find it is the most plausible explanation for no scumkill. Except I don't think scum would shoot there.

To me the simplest explanation is Drealmerz is lying.

~~Math

I really have a hard time following this - I can't see what you're thinking

you say "no scumkill" but then, by your logic, isn't lycan the scumkill and I'm lying about my vig timing?

what is my lie? ugh this is realllly frusrtating

MB, check yourself if you're town, I think you just get lost on crazy theories to explain things

to me this just feels like scum pushing an agenda hardcore though

I am saying
Scum submit you to do kill on player X.
You vig Lycanfire for cred.
Lycanfire having you as a top scumread redirects all your actions to him. Since you claimed killing role and based on thread meta he was likely being mislynched.

Therefore the scum kill and vig kill went to Lycanfire and Drealmerz is a scum vig.

[drealmerz7]

on it FA

[The DEO]

This would explain the missing kill if you are truly a vig.

~~Math

[Frozen Angel]

even a treestump function would stop with double kill

Your making no sense

[The DEO]

Or you aren't even a vig at all and just did the scum kill.

Either way Lycanfire's status needs explaining and that is the point.

~~Math

[drealmerz7]

okay, shit, there's a fucking start to me understanding what the fuck you're saying

you're saying I performed 2 NKs - because I'm a scum vig.? I scum-vigged lycan (during the Day is your thought?) and then killed someone else at Night, was redirected by lycan onto himself? *phew* is that right? (no sarcasm / attitude here, I just am checking it)

[The DEO]

even a treestump function would stop with double kill

Your making no sense

Yes it would. That is my point.

Double kill would in essence neuter delayed death.

However I really want RC to speak on this.

~~Math