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My primary reason for not scumreading gerry at this point is we just finished Wordplay Mafia, where he was town and had similar posting style.In post 930, Manuel87 wrote:
So you asked me for my scumread on you.In post 910, gerryoat wrote:i'm ok with the mick wagon i guess. but i think manuel is more scummy. mick was drunk when he made those awful posts so it makes me wanna give him the benefit of the doubt
I gave my reasoning and have yet to see anyone that is defending you to argue about the points i made.
The best i got so far is " I think there is a decent amount of reaching in his case on gerry"
But that statement is just a way to devalue my points without arguing about them.
I have played 2 games with town!Gamma and in neither he was inactive. That can be because of RL so i wouldnt read him scum for that alone but on top of that the only posts he made when he was active were mostly unhelpful spam. For somebody with 52 posts thats quite an achievment. And i dont remember Gamma going that hard into unhelpful spam. In our last game together he even suggested replacing out because of the earlygame spam.In post 795, gerryoat wrote: 2.) His second scumread is Gamma, who hasnt talked in 2 days I believe. This is another safe scumread because not only is he not here to defend himself, but he can just say he thought that gamma is lurking right now. Since this is a the lurker, it makes it a good middle scumread.
3.) His third scumread is Pep. Who is looking more and more like lynchbait. If you see the amount of pressure and votes that have been piling up on pep, I think that he thought this was a safe last scumread just to throw in at the end, because since others scumread him, he won't be questioned much on it.
Pep tried to throw shade at me and i called him out for it so tell me how exactly i was using the arguments others made for my scumread? You say he is looking more and more like lynchbait. Doesnt that imply that you yourself think he is scummy? How do you come to the conclusion that he is lynchbait?
Btw you are trying way to hard to tell everyone that you are town. What is the reason to mention that every time you get a chance?
Went back to check- here is his iso-
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In both games he goes to figure out Transcend's alignment. Turns out he was scum last game, and gerry called it, but otherwise he appears to be scumhunting in both this game and Wordplay.
Since this is day1, and I feel gerry can contribute more and better in future days, I have a townread on him for now, and am pretty much against his lynch. The person most likely to move me from that read today would be gerry.
I would like to hear about your Pepo scumread, and your drealmerz townread.I will haveLimited Accesson weekends.-
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Yeah not fond of #1, town gets stuck frequentlyIn post 380, drealmerz7 wrote:
1.) so if they can't get out of it they're scum and the lynch is okie-dokie? - that sounds like mislynches never happen in your world? what am I missing?In post 379, ConManMick wrote:...1.)If someone is legitimately town they ought to be able to get out of a hole.
Basically, I agree with the sentiment of this post.
2.) Yeah I just woke up about a half hour ago and I don't remember going to bed so this might be a little less than coherent yeeeeoooow
2.) yyeeeeeowwww indeed! you know you sound shady and so you excuse it, even if it is true that you just woke up, the genuineness of this remark is non-existent to me, very forced
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Nop, I have lines of actual arguments. Read them and don't discredit them ^^In post 933, Ramcius wrote:
And this is why you deserve ropeIn post 924, Pepchoninga wrote:
He makes it look like mocking someone constantly is a) a good townish thing...b) he is implying I should be grateful that he isn't going full on guns and blazers on me.In post 923, Alisae wrote:
Use the english language to explain why.In post 922, Pepchoninga wrote:
This post is just comming from a scum. Bad one.In post 877, Ramcius wrote:Pep, i will mock you as much as i want, cause you making clown of yourself and my patience have limits, and keep in mind - as long as i mock you, i'm not going hard after you
P-edit: post inflating still here, just look at Pep, almost 5 posts in a row in this page, other pages similar
Manuel gave big case on gerry, his entrance and interaction with you looks towny, vote on Pep justified, Pep tried provoke him and got what deserved
Also, how is me making 5 posts one after the other a bad thing? I have this to comment on when I catch up and I do. Manuel has contributed far less than what I've done to move the discussion forward. He is mostly lynching me for reasons that other gave.
a) go back and read your latest posts full "lol" and "bad", sounds like hardcore mocking, isn't it? Yet you make sound like mocking is scum sign
b) ofc you should, but if you want hard way, let's do it
explain me your neutral POV, cause neutral means you stand between 2 or more faction or whatever you want call it, so 1 is town, what are other(s), cause you clearly said to me you don't try look game from town POV, when i called you on that, and that was start of your tunnel towards me
i explained why, we have 35 pages already, it makes harder to read game, makes harder read your ISO
When i said Manuel did more than you? I said i feel Manuel posts genuine, while your provocative and vague posts often don't make any sense as town
A) No mocking isn't always a scum sign. And the lols and bads are not mocking either. I just find your posts hilarious or bad. Or both. And I point this out. If you belive that makes me scum, you really haven't played with some people from this sign. In some cases I have drawn a lot of inspiration from that.
B) lol, why are going into a fight? This is absolutely stupid and not a town sign. You should be "fighting me" just because I call you out for not being as aggressive as I've seen you before. This just seems like you might be trying to pick a fight and not actually try to find if I'm scum or town and with that wether you should communicate with me and try to find scum or lynch me, because you think I'm the scum. Again, not a town sign.
My neutral way of playing has been explained. But ok, I will happily give what you want to hear. I will use general meta as it is needed to explain my way if thinking. I belive that town shouldn't try too hard to look like town. You generally can't act like the all nice good guy who really wants to lynch the scum. The more you try to look like town, the more fake you seem, hence it is more likely that you could be accused of being a scum that is trying too hard. On the other hand scum do need to try and look like town to fit in. So here is when the misslynch happens. That stray of confusion. So as town, why would you actively try to play like a "townie". You actions and words may come from either a town or scum mindset, but the way you present your words is the hardest thing to fake. That is why I tend to look at the game at a very different way. A way of seeing both sides, without the panic of town that you may make a mistake or the knowledge that being a scum gives you. It gives you a clearer view of the situation and thus helps you in your way of playing.
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To everyone:In post 946, Ramcius wrote:Big wall of text in spoiler, so consider yourself warned
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Pep, welcome on receiving end of my aggression, i really hoped i could have more civil game this time
People please read this and here is the question I'm presenting: in the post that Ram made before the one thst I'm qurently talking about, he said that my posts "full of" "lol" and "bad" are scummy yet now the only real word I'm seeing in his aggressive post is "meta". It is a poor word choice since there is nothing wrong with meta. We base our beliefs on what is towny and what is scummy on meta. He is pointing out obvious stiff that in no way makes an actual argument against my case and in the end his goal is just to try and discredit.
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pretty sure i broke down why i thought you and iron were scum. but OK whatever fits your agenda hmmm?In post 935, Manuel87 wrote:Just more stupidity to hide the fact you arent scumhunting at all.
Spoiler: as shown here
I was maf with you before, you should know how i act as maf lol. You're acting pretty similar to that game, so that's why i scumread you a bit more than my analysis.-
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Glad to see you might have flipped town this game. Good post plus good use of meta. I called Transcend being scum that game right away, just like i'm calling him being town this game. He has a way of going about things he does as both alignments imo.In post 951, PeregrineV wrote:
My primary reason for not scumreading gerry at this point is we just finished Wordplay Mafia, where he was town and had similar posting style.In post 930, Manuel87 wrote:
So you asked me for my scumread on you.In post 910, gerryoat wrote:i'm ok with the mick wagon i guess. but i think manuel is more scummy. mick was drunk when he made those awful posts so it makes me wanna give him the benefit of the doubt
I gave my reasoning and have yet to see anyone that is defending you to argue about the points i made.
The best i got so far is " I think there is a decent amount of reaching in his case on gerry"
But that statement is just a way to devalue my points without arguing about them.
I have played 2 games with town!Gamma and in neither he was inactive. That can be because of RL so i wouldnt read him scum for that alone but on top of that the only posts he made when he was active were mostly unhelpful spam. For somebody with 52 posts thats quite an achievment. And i dont remember Gamma going that hard into unhelpful spam. In our last game together he even suggested replacing out because of the earlygame spam.In post 795, gerryoat wrote: 2.) His second scumread is Gamma, who hasnt talked in 2 days I believe. This is another safe scumread because not only is he not here to defend himself, but he can just say he thought that gamma is lurking right now. Since this is a the lurker, it makes it a good middle scumread.
3.) His third scumread is Pep. Who is looking more and more like lynchbait. If you see the amount of pressure and votes that have been piling up on pep, I think that he thought this was a safe last scumread just to throw in at the end, because since others scumread him, he won't be questioned much on it.
Pep tried to throw shade at me and i called him out for it so tell me how exactly i was using the arguments others made for my scumread? You say he is looking more and more like lynchbait. Doesnt that imply that you yourself think he is scummy? How do you come to the conclusion that he is lynchbait?
Btw you are trying way to hard to tell everyone that you are town. What is the reason to mention that every time you get a chance?
Went back to check- here is his iso-
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In both games he goes to figure out Transcend's alignment. Turns out he was scum last game, and gerry called it, but otherwise he appears to be scumhunting in both this game and Wordplay.
Since this is day1, and I feel gerry can contribute more and better in future days, I have a townread on him for now, and am pretty much against his lynch. The person most likely to move me from that read today would be gerry.
I would like to hear about your Pepo scumread, and your drealmerz townread.-
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Elena Fisher effectively replaces Indigo as of now.
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This is a Townpost. Mocking a SR is delightful.
Gerry you can be part of our Townbloc.Lame
I concur.In post 939, Transcend wrote:935 was a scum claim btw
Why assume multiball?In post 940, Transcend wrote:Manny/Mick probably separate factions. I doubt they put two of their eggs on one obv town lynch.
Transcend, I'm still pretty sure this is scum.In post 945, Ramcius wrote:
i would like hear reasoning why gerry is obv town? All i see from him is being jester and provocativeIn post 940, Transcend wrote:Manny/Mick probably separate factions. I doubt they put two of their eggs on one obv town lynch.
Could it possibly be so easy as Mick/Manuel/Ram?"Cry havoc, and let slip the wombat of war!"
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prob different scum teams. dont see them all 'voting me/soft pushing me' on the same team. also think iron is there tooIn post 963, Pine wrote:Could it possibly be so easy as Mick/Manuel/Ram?-
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You should read it all over again, you called me out 5 times for not being same as in newbie game, and you explicitly several times said to base reads on meta is wrong, and i don't say your reads based on meta, i say your read on me based on metaIn post 954, Pepchoninga wrote:
To everyone:In post 946, Ramcius wrote:Big wall of text in spoiler, so consider yourself warned
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Pep, welcome on receiving end of my aggression, i really hoped i could have more civil game this time
People please read this and here is the question I'm presenting: in the post that Ram made before the one thst I'm qurently talking about, he said that my posts "full of" "lol" and "bad" are scummy yet now the only real word I'm seeing in his aggressive post is "meta". It is a poor word choice since there is nothing wrong with meta. We base our beliefs on what is towny and what is scummy on meta. He is pointing out obvious stiff that in no way makes an actual argument against my case and in the end his goal is just to try and discredit.
Also he says I base my stuff on other games, when most of his reads are based on his newbie game or gut.
also, what about shade trowing? I quoted 3 examples of you doing so, and you telling shadowtrowing isn't scummy
Did i made your case on your meta? Only person i based on meta is Gamma, and even if i don't use meta, he did nothing, just bunch of useless spam, so yeah, i SR him not only for meta
Can you make your case against me in one post? I just want to see what you consider case against me, your ISO is way too big to search
And yes, loling and saying bad is very huge scum sign, cause you can't make anything useful, but have say something
And you so inconsistent, even if this post i quote, first you say we base our beliefs on meta, yet you say i'm scum for base my scumreads on meta and gut (which isn't true in most cases, does your read is based on your meta?)-
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couple fake claims, nothing serious yetIn post 969, Elena Fisher wrote:Any claims so far or mostly useless chatter?-
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So why aren't you?In post 970, Alisae wrote:The above post is begging me to vote them.-
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What are the 2 leading wagons and why?In post 971, Ramcius wrote:
couple fake claims, nothing serious yetIn post 969, Elena Fisher wrote:Any claims so far or mostly useless chatter?-
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well, vote count up on this page, but no serious wagons (3 vote wagons i can't consider something important), cause we have quite a few slackersIn post 973, Elena Fisher wrote:
What are the 2 leading wagons and why?In post 971, Ramcius wrote:
couple fake claims, nothing serious yetIn post 969, Elena Fisher wrote:Any claims so far or mostly useless chatter?
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