Pick Your Power: Double Deck (GAME OVER)

[TheWayItEnds]

everyone still do that though.

[Fishythefish]

mathblade's scumteam is remarkably close to my townteam. Though I'd sub Vecna in and leave Dunn on the bench.

[gigabyteTroubadour]

btw i should probably emphasize that there's confirmed scum in

{Mathblade, gerry, kison, LUV, TWIE}

^ all possible ace of clubs holders

mathblade's scumteam is remarkably close to my townteam. Though I'd sub Vecna in and leave Dunn on the bench.

same lol

[gigabyteTroubadour]

{Mathblade, gerry, kison, LUV, TWIE}

technically i'm in this list yes but please explain to me how i figure out that, as a town, we collectively picked 13 diamond cards like N2

i feel pretty comfortable excluding myself from that list

[Fishythefish]

Wait, I was expecting one unknown diamond in massclaim. Where is it?

[Fishythefish]

Oh, dave had it. NVM.

[Vecna]

we're vigging him

also nobody tell mathblade that giga/dunn/grey/max as a scumteam is mechanically impossible unless you think A: my inventory result was fake and an arbitrary guess that happened to be correct, or B: Jackel didn't venge anyone

i can verify mcmenno is in the clubs hood btw, and we already know he's in the diamonds hood because of the dunn slip discussion

NO, heart is trump meaning he can have a card with BP.

Claim or LYNCH

[gigabyteTroubadour]

hghghghgghgh

but mathblade................

............

...............

like i absolutely refuse to believe that mathblade is town and playing this poorly

i'm sorry

but i really tried

[Fishythefish]

It's OK - gerry has claimed!

mathblade, though... IDK. Have you ever seen scum pretend to be as far off the right track as MB seems to be here? I mean, it's literally like he's got his read list upside down. I've never seen this as a scum ploy.

[Fishythefish]

(That could be because my site meta is three years out of date, OFC)

[TheWayItEnds]

what are you guys expecting to get out of card cop on kison?

[TheWayItEnds]

if he was lying wouldnt you not claim the kd

[TheWayItEnds]

Ks*

[Fishythefish]

Hiding the Ace of Clubs. It's *quite* likely to be hidden as another club, because inventory. The 5 - unconfirmable, unlikely to be counterclaimed - is a good candidate.

[gigabyteTroubadour]

what are you guys expecting to get out of card cop on kison?

verify whether or not he has the ace of clubs

only explanation besides jackel forgetting to submit a kill on maria is a doc protect on her

unless he killed someone besides who he said he would? actually i need to reread

but the point is we are speculating that there is an ace of clubs (we're not lynching for it just yet because we're using tonight's inventory result to verify clubs) and Kison, you, Uzi, and gerry (only due to lack of claim, but idk what fishy is talking about...?) are possibilities

out of the two that can be copped {Kison, Uzi}, I would prefer Kison because I don't think Maria being bussed is out of the question and the rb kill makes far more sense to me if we read Uzi as a town slot. So cop Kison first.

I'm pretty sure our two lynches hit scum so we shouldn't have to worry about LYLO dipoles.

if he was lying wouldnt you not claim the kd

well why not

we've already seen town picking "scummy picks" (transcend, creature) so i don't think it'd be out of the question for scum!Kison to truthfully claim that card

we only know there's an unclaimed ace of clubs

[gigabyteTroubadour]

Most of the wagons that gained traction were either on later-confirmed town (by flip or rb's possible inno on Transcend) or on my townreads, except for Vedith at the time. Now he doesn't feel as scummy? I've stopped paying attention, really, as the discussion right now is mostly on who to kill. I'll probably randomly pick from the player list, removing a couple of strong TRs. It could easily be better than how town's performing now.

hmm

mathblade's slot is an unlikely target so we know it didn't hit vedith's BP

did he actually pick randomly now i'm kind of concerned

[Fishythefish]

ok idc anymore.

KH, KC, 3D

he was town lol. why do you care dunn

[TheWayItEnds]

Hiding the Ace of Clubs. It's *quite* likely to be hidden as another club, because inventory. The 5 - unconfirmable, unlikely to be counterclaimed - is a good candidate.

okay im following now. because Ac is the only reason we shouldnt have a vengekill.

[Fishythefish]

@giga: Jackal said a good amount after that. I doubt he picked randomly. Vedith is indeed unlikely. I still think the Ace of Clubs protected Maria is by far the most likely explanation (hell, I thought that before Maria flipped scum).

@TWIE: exactly.

[gigabyteTroubadour]

yeah i think {Kison, LUV, TWIE} is probably our best bet in actually finding the supposed unclaimed Ace of Clubs - vengeful is a terrible fakeclaim and i think mathblade is confirmed gov't?

currently i do believe in it but i'm not lynching in that pool until drealfucker and i decide what type of inventory (clubs in general or ace of clubs only) to do so we can be sure it's not a wild goose chase

[gerryoat]

VOTE: Dunn

FUCKING LYNCH THIS. MY GOD. THERE HAS TO BE ONE SCUM IN MCMENNO AND DUNN AND MCMENNO WAS OBVIOUS TOWN AT THE END. LYNCH THIS

@gerry: why does there have to be one scum in McMenno and Dunn?

One was in diamond chat. Either dunn slipped saying kill titus or mcmenno framed him by getting the titus kill to make him look bad. either way i think Dunn actually slipped and is maf with grey

[MathBlade]

Am I missing anything else interesting outside of the slip that makes any of Dunn, giga, or Grey likely scum? I may be forgetting something, but my impression of the case is:

1) Dunn is scum due to the slip.
2) Giga is scum because Dunn claimed to protect them, and probably wouldn't protect town.
3) Grey is scum for shooting Titus after Dunn slipped it.

Anything you'd add to that?

PEDIT: maybe, if they were off the ball. Why?

Number 2 is slightly different.
Giga is scum because Dunn claimed to protect them and I don't see anyone taking a suicide card unless they knew a doctor was going to protect them or had a fear of death and tried to get out as much as possible.

Maxous is scum for leading that BS wagon and not reexamining reads and going along with the claim mechanics when Maxous usually doesn't like mechanical crap.

Giga furthermore is scum because he is trying to say "I didn't lie to Town about results" as saying he is Town. Karnos did the same thing under my guidance in 1800 and gave a conftown.

Grey is scum not just for the slip but how they have been bosom buddies on wagons. Grey flip flops on occasion but inevitably they end up together.

Does it not bug anyone how similar all these lynches are?

[gerryoat]

Have been away the last two days. Gonna take me a bit more to catch up again.

Force gerry to claim or get lynched

i claimed you moron.

[MathBlade]

yeah i think {Kison, LUV, TWIE} is probably our best bet in actually finding the supposed unclaimed Ace of Clubs - vengeful is a terrible fakeclaim and i think mathblade is confirmed gov't?

currently i do believe in it but i'm not lynching in that pool until drealfucker and i decide what type of inventory (clubs in general or ace of clubs only) to do so we can be sure it's not a wild goose chase

I am not confirmed governor as I haven't used it I don't think. I am Town though. Either way even if I was confirmed governor that wouldn't make me confirmed Town.

[gerryoat]

Wait guys. is there a reason there was no kill in the night? like was there a card stopping it or was it a doc save?