Large Normal 201 - House of Harmony - At The End(GAME OVER)

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Vote Count 1.17

ConManMick -

[4] Pine, Alisae, PeregrineV, Transcend

drealmerz7 -

[0]

Transcend -

[0]

Pine -

[0]

Alisae -

[2] drealmerz7, BigYoshiFan

Jaack -

[1] Gamma Emerald

Elena Fisher -

[0]

BigYoshiFan -

[0]

Manuel87 -

[1] gerryoat

PeregrineV -

[0]

Gamma Emerald -

[0]

PenguinPower -

[0]

Lemon Tree -

[0]

ironstove -

[0]

kuror0 -

[0]

Pepchoninga -

[0]

Clumsy -

[2] Jaack, Pepchoninga

gerryoat -

[2] ConManMick, Manuel87

Not Voting -

PenguinPower, Lemon Tree, kuror0, ironstove, Elena Fisher, Clumsy

Mod Notes –

ironstove is V/LA until 15 January.
Gamma Emerald is V/LA until 17 January.
Prodding PenguinPower, Lemon Tree. Soft prodding ConManMick.

come on people I have seventy fucking two hour long prod timers.

With 18 Alive, It Takes 10 to Lynch.

Day 1 Ends In (expired on 2017-01-23 01:24:08).

[Pepchoninga]

Hi i just lost a game can i have a shoulder to cry on

BE A MAN!

[Pepchoninga]

I guess there's this one to improve in

Like I'm shitty lately so i doubt scum will n1 me.

Posts like that ping me the monst...

[Pepchoninga]

/me gives Transcend all the scooby snacks.

Don't feel bad. It happens to the best of us.
Tho what we do in those kind of situations is take in where you messed up and then learn from your mistakes.
It's like writing an essay for HS. Ya get a bad grade on one paper? Maybe the next one will be better cuz you can look at it and see where you fucked up.
It's all part of human error.
Don't be discouraged. You're amazing.

That was a damn good speech...

[Pepchoninga]

The Jaack sh1t case:

I felt really uncomfortable about this slot for most of the game. I nullread it just mostly because tone was wierd. Then I figured that him being null read is sorta puts him a good position.

He was mostly pushing Ramcius most of the game. Sure he probably has some good points up to where he votes Pep. If anything to me this seems like jumping on the Pep wagon at the wrong time if we consider Pep to be lynchbait. Plus I'm sorta getting the feeling that he doesn't really scumreads Pep as hard as he scumreads Ramcius in that post. Also later he mentions something about Pep attempting to save his own skin when he should be trying to push Manuel. Ehh, I would agree if Pep was simply better at videa gamez, but I don't. I know Pep a bit more then ywall, I would probably describe him as a newbie. Still getting the swing of things and he doesn't really seem to know how to exactly deal with people who are SRing him yet alone not get SR'd.

I think it's around the time he produces his big readlist he starts to make me feel very uncomfortable. Like if I could put my finger on it, maybe it seemed like he was trying to pocket me in a really indirect fashion? Maybe it was that he was chainsawing me?
After I convince him to get back on Ram, he starts pushing that again. His points on him are kind of strong.
Not to mention if he gets swayed from one of his scumreads to jump on the other he'll show his support for that lynch. I sorta do this too as town, but it seems hypocritical to attack Ram by saying that he doesn't care where his vote goes where Jaack's own vote acts sorta similarly.

That's the case folks!

You ain't much better then me sucker. Stop thinking you can use other people as an excuse to call me shit.

Cuz you are SR to a lot of people in all the games I've played with you!

Tho I agree Jaack had no reason to vote me, considering the lolfull playing of Ram.

[Pepchoninga]

I explained my read on him when he asked me. You might want to read that part again before misreping it.

Naaaaaaah, you're misrepping me now.
You never interacted with him up to the point where he asked for a case.
If I phrased it differently sorry, that's what I meant.

It is true that i didnt interact with him until i mentioned my sr on him but the point you make is that i made a case without interacting with him.
I gave the case when he asked me why he is in my scumreads.

Either way i dont see what is bad about developing a scumread on someone.
Please explain how it makes me scum when you dont even take your time to argue about my points on him.

I kind afeel like Manuel is town.

[Pepchoninga]

oh tldr for the Jaaaack shitcase.
1. Tone makes me feel uncomfortable with the slot.
2. Pushes Ram but then hops on the Pep wagon at the wrong time.
3. His attempts to indirectly pocket me and/or chainsawing me by pushing Ram
4. Attacking Ram for not really caring where his vote went where I felt like Jaack didn't really care where he put his votes as long sa it was on a scumread.
Yet again I end up doing the last point a lot as town so ehhhh.

Tldr

What does tldr stand for exactly?

[Pepchoninga]

Well Alisae

The Ramcius wagon has scum on it

That's fo sho.

Pine and Pep are town.

That leaves?.....

You and Jaack!

You might be on to something, but you're also possibly scum there.

The Mick lynch will be a thing and nothing is stopping that.

Why do you exclude the position of Ram being scum tho?

[Pepchoninga]

But since

Jaack is my scum partner

the Mick lynch is pure ownage, Jaack will not see the rope today.

You way whaaaaa? O_O

[Pepchoninga]

I thought so too, when I was PMing the mod to replace in. It's a shame, I enjoy playing scum more. But nah, I'm town.

I immediately don't like this post lol xD

You will need to make a very good explaining if you actually want me to belive you ain't scum, cuz your predecessor did the slips, now are you gonna confirm them?

[drealmerz7]

can we lynch alisae or transcend?

Not Voting -

PenguinPower, Lemon Tree, kuror0, ironstove, Elena Fisher, Clumsy

or at least cast votes the fuck already already

[gerryoat]

can we lynch alisae or

transcend

?

would say scumclaim, but you have very bad reads as town. conflicted

[drealmerz7]

would say scumclaim, but you have very bad reads as town. conflicted

[Jaack]

(Splitting up defense and opinions because shut up)

I'm not in love with the Mick wagon tbh.

I mean I don't love his most recent post (590 which was quite long ago but whatever) because it's just kinda lazy observations - people aren't here, Pepcho posts weird. But his drunken anti-gerry tirade feels more town than not to me.

Elena's entrance was meh/lean scum but Indigo was townlean. Neither side of the slot has done enough to convince me either way.

I still think ramslot is scum, but if it somehow is town, then I think that pepcho is more than likely to be scum. Their mutual quote wars didn't look TvT at all to me.

Will review other stuff but I'm getting lazy at this point.

[Jaack]

These two posts were supposed to be in opposite order but it doesn't really matter I guess.

The Jaack sh1t case:

I felt really uncomfortable about this slot for most of the game. I nullread it just mostly because tone was wierd. Then I figured that him being null read is sorta puts him a good position.

I can't really explain my tone to you. I mean, you can review the games in my wiki (it is 100% up to date!) to compare if you'd like.

*Jaack note - I am breaking up these paragraphs to respond by point*

He was mostly pushing Ramcius most of the game. Sure he probably has some good points up to where he votes Pep. If anything to me this seems like jumping on the Pep wagon at the wrong time if we consider Pep to be lynchbait. Plus I'm sorta getting the feeling that he doesn't really scumreads Pep as hard as he scumreads Ramcius in that post.

It is accurate that I did not and have never scumread Pepcho as much as I scumread Ramcius. But at the time I switched over to Pepcho, no one else really seemed to be interested in my Ramcius case, at least to the point of voting there. Especially in the first couple of days, I'd rather be voting for a weaker scumread that has traction than a stronger scumread that doesn't.

Also later he mentions something about Pep attempting to save his own skin when he should be trying to push Manuel. Ehh, I would agree if Pep was simply better at videa gamez, but I don't. I know Pep a bit more then ywall, I would probably describe him as a newbie. Still getting the swing of things and he doesn't really seem to know how to exactly deal with people who are SRing him yet alone not get SR'd.

I don't know anything about Pepcho aside from what I've read in this game. If the reason you disagree with my point is because you know pepcho, then you're judging me for not knowing things that I had no reason to know. Furthermore, you accepted my reasoning at the time, and even subsequentially voted pepcho yourself in a couple of pages.

There are enough stickling points where I'm still concerned with pepcho, even if I can see how he might be lynchbait.

I think it's around the time he produces his big readlist he starts to make me feel very uncomfortable. Like if I could put my finger on it, maybe it seemed like he was trying to pocket me in a really indirect fashion? Maybe it was that he was chainsawing me?

I townread you because you're wagon looked like a lazy wagon from RVS that stuck around for way to long. Also I mostly liked what you'd been saying and doing. But more so the first part.

After I convince him to get back on Ram, he starts pushing that again. His points on him are kind of strong.
Not to mention if he gets swayed from one of his scumreads to jump on the other he'll show his support for that lynch. I sorta do this too as town, but it seems hypocritical to attack Ram by saying that he doesn't care where his vote goes where Jaack's own vote acts sorta similarly.

I've been voting my strongest scumread that I think has traction this entire game (well except for my BYF vote I guess. That was because I enjoy manipulating yoshis into self destructing.

[Elena Fisher]

Reading the interactions I was given by Yoshi I think Gerry and Cow are both town Gerry seems to be like such a punching bag this game that looks like scum want him mislynched
At face value Cow's actions seemed a bit scummy with a tr into an auto sr not less then 20 posts later but I honestly expect scum to be much more controlled than that and ease into the sr not just outright call him scum and scream "bs bs bs"
Irons is the worst by far
Kuro I'm meh on
VOTE: Iron

[Elena Fisher]

Clum (Rem) town
Gerry Town
Cow town
Alisae towny
Slight sr om Manuel from what I've seen well prob iso that later
Iron scum

[BigYoshiFan]

Who's cow? XD

[Elena Fisher]

Whoops
Con*
What made you want me to look at gerryoat's interactions and with those people specifically btw

[BigYoshiFan]

Because I scumread everyone there for that interaction. I wanted your opinion on it.

[Elena Fisher]

Con is town though.
Join me on Iron.

[BigYoshiFan]

I don't like your reasoning for the TR on ConManMick. You expect scum to be more controlled with their actions?

[Elena Fisher]

Yes and I expect scum to think more about there actions scum don't want to be sr more then town does that's basic knowledge
When I look at his posts I don't see scum!con looking at those posts and going like "yeah these are okay to post"

[BigYoshiFan]

So is this about his meta now or just a scum in general?

[Elena Fisher]

Scum in gen I don't have any meta on him