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[Alisae]

I trust him in that not voting right away is a good idea.
I don't TR him as hard as I did yesterday.

[gerryoat]

No you didn't continue your read. Its that you wanted the rb/jk to out themselves.

???

This is a low player game, if you have confirmed scum, you lynch it. I don't get what you're saying. If it's a doc save, then don't out. But a RB/JK when there is possibly only 2 mafs. You lynch the confirmed maf, then RB outs who they will be RBing and then it could be autowin for us if they are on maf. If they die, the person they were on is confirmed town

[gerryoat]

I trust him in that not voting right away is a good idea.
I don't TR him as hard as I did yesterday.

well, yes. i guess that makes sense. But, i see no reason to not TR him less.

[Alisae]

Okay fine, that makes sense. I forgot I was retarded lmao.
But I think you also slipped that you were rb'd.

[gerryoat]

How did I slip that I was rb'd. There was 2 scendarios there is a NL that i'm aware of.

1.) RB/JK was on maf.

2.) Doc save.

Notice I didn't say for doc to out, because that's stupid. Also, say I was scum that thought me/my partner was roleblocked WHY would I bring up

This is a low player game, if you have confirmed scum, you lynch it. I don't get what you're saying. If it's a doc save, then don't out. But a RB/JK when there is possibly only 2 mafs. You lynch the confirmed maf, then RB outs who they will be RBing and then it could be autowin for us if they are on maf. If they die, the person they were on is confirmed town

when that would basically either ruin us, or give us a confirmed town clear in such a small game.

[gerryoat]

Alisae, youre acting very questionable right now, and I am not quite sure what the reason is.

[gerryoat]

Also

But I think you also slipped that you were rb'd.

Doesn't make much sense. If you think I slipped, why would you put me in a lynch pool with 4 others. You would think I'm confirmed scum.

[Alisae]

You instantly jumped to conclusion 1.
http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=50&t=66954
In this game RC is scum and N1 they kill the jk. They then immediately present an arguement that the bp townie has to out themselves or it's a scumclaim.
Sure we may not be dealing with RC, but same shit works here.
RC in that game basicly slipped that they had an RB

[Alisae]

If I think you're confirmed scum, then I rather look for your buddy and lynch you before Lylo
Hence why I didn't want to lynch Penguin yesterday.

[gerryoat]

I didn't bring up a Doc because I didn't think doc needed to claim. RB/JK NEEDS to claim. I didn't jump to a conclusion. So, if nobody claimed RB/JK. What is your read on me?

[gerryoat]

You instantly jumped to conclusion 1.
viewtopic.php?f=50&t=66954
In this game RC is scum and N1 they kill the jk. They then immediately present an arguement that the bp townie has to out themselves or it's a scumclaim.
Sure we may not be dealing with RC, but same shit works here.
RC in that game basicly slipped that they had an RB

I don't get what you mean. Are you saying I slipped that maf has a RB? Or that I was RB'd?

[gerryoat]

There would be no way for me to know as scum if I was roleblocked or if the kill was a doc save. That's two different scenarios. The one you are talking about is slipping that scum has a role. Not that there is a town role that's a RB/JK (Which even as scum, I wouldn't know)

[Alisae]

You also didn't bring up the possibility of there being a no kill gambit.
Cuz that's also a possibility.
Also how do you know that a JK blocked scum? What if they blocked a townie?

pedit: you slipped that you were rb'd. In the game I linked RC slipped that they had an RB by asking for a 1shot bp townie to immediately claim.

[Alisae]

There would be no way for me to know as scum if I was roleblocked or if the kill was a doc save. That's two different scenarios. The one you are talking about is slipping that scum has a role. Not that there is a town role that's a RB/JK (Which even as scum, I wouldn't know)

Yeah you would know if you were rb'd because the mod would tell you
Same shit works here because you knew that you were rb'd.

[gerryoat]

You also didn't bring up the possibility of there being a no kill gambit.
Cuz that's also a possibility.
Also how do you know that a JK blocked scum? What if they blocked a townie?

HOW. HARD. IS. IT. TO. UNDERSTAND. THAT. THERE. WAS. A. NO. KILL.

2. SCENARIOS.

ROLEBLOCKED. KILL.

DOC. SAVE.

I. DONT. WANT. DOC. TO. CLAIM. IF. THERE. IS. ONE.

WE. HAVE. POTENTIAL. AUTO. WIN. IF. JK/RB. WAS. ON. SCUM.

I. ASK. IF. THERE. IS. ONE. THEY. SHOULD. CLAIM. AS. THEY. 99%. STOPPED. A. KILL.

AS. MAF. I. WOULDNT. KNOW. IF. I. OR. MY. PARTNER. WAS. RB'D. OR. THE. KILL. WAS. SAVED.

DO. YOU. UNDERSTAND. NOW?

READ. SLOWLY.

[gerryoat]

There would be no way for me to know as scum if I was roleblocked or if the kill was a doc save. That's two different scenarios. The one you are talking about is slipping that scum has a role. Not that there is a town role that's a RB/JK (Which even as scum, I wouldn't know)

Yeah you would know if you were rb'd because the mod would tell you
Same shit works here because you knew that you were rb'd.

OK. SINCE YOU'RE CONVINCED I WAS ROLEBLOCKED. IF ANYONE CLAIMS RBER ON ME, I WILL ACCEPT A LYNCH. IF THERE IS NO ROLEBLOCKER IN THIS GAME, YOU HAVE TO ACCEPT THAT YOU'RE WRONG AND BEING SHIT.

[gerryoat]

Does maf really get a message from the mod saying their kill was roleblocked tho?

[Alisae]

I think I broke Garry xD

This isn't about a doc/rolestopper claiming or not.
Also JK could have prevented a townie from dieing. They didn't have to be on scum.
As scum you would know if you were rb'd. You would not know if the kill was saved.

pedit: Fine.
And most likely.

[gerryoat]

http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... 2#p8298672

this game my partner was jailed and i'm pretty sure she didnt or she woulda said something.

[gerryoat]

Also JK could have prevented a townie from dieing. They didn't have to be on scum.

ok i guess i forgot that part. but still 50/50 imo. either way. if there is no RB/JK in this game, then you have no reason to scumread me. If I see a scumread from you later on this game that does not make sense if there is confirmed no RBer, ten i wont TR you anymore.

[Alisae]

@MOD if scum's kill was roleblocked would scum know they were roleblocked?

[Alisae]

Also JK could have prevented a townie from dieing. They didn't have to be on scum.

ok i guess i forgot that part. but still 50/50 imo. either way. if there is no RB/JK in this game, then you have no reason to scumread me. If I see a scumread from you later on this game that does not make sense if there is confirmed no RBer, ten i wont TR you anymore.

If there isn't then fine I can't use that as a reason to SR you. Will I find another reason? Maybe. Maybe not.
And if I have a reason to SR you, you should be asking for a case

[Alisae]

Of course, that is later after this deliema.

[gerryoat]

Pretty sure i wasn't roleblocked tho

[gerryoat]

I'm lynching in [Penguin, Gamma, JarJar, Nadpool]