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Post Post #3125 (ISO) » Sat Jan 14, 2017 3:58 pm

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you can't use what you had on gin
before
his claim because he was playing deceitfully, things you think you might have picked up about him are possibly wrong, skewed, TAINTED because he wasn't playing it STRAIGHT - this holds true for everyone who isn't scum

so obviously you can't use anything after it either

and none of us can read any of it accurately even moreso after the claim because any 1 of us could be a real vig. who knew he was fullofshit

in theory it would be like: essentially you scumread me for voting him and whatever bs reason I gave formed because I'm the vig (I'm not claiming to be a fucking vig., again this is an theory example to illustrate my point and is best to use myself in the example as to not draw other people into this SHIT) and knew he was FoS (a different kind of FoS, a brown FoS) and...yeah...
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Post Post #3126 (ISO) » Sat Jan 14, 2017 4:05 pm

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I disagree with that reasoning. If anyone got SRed for such a reason they could just claim vig
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Post Post #3127 (ISO) » Sat Jan 14, 2017 4:06 pm

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Dunn might be scum, EV is probably town
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Post Post #3128 (ISO) » Sat Jan 14, 2017 4:10 pm

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In post 3125, drealmerz7 wrote:you can't use what you had on gin
before
his claim because he was playing deceitfully, things you think you might have picked up about him are possibly wrong, skewed, TAINTED because he wasn't playing it STRAIGHT - this holds true for everyone who isn't scum

so obviously you can't use anything after it either

and none of us can read any of it accurately even moreso after the claim because any 1 of us could be a real vig. who knew he was fullofshit

in theory it would be like: essentially you scumread me for voting him and whatever bs reason I gave formed because I'm the vig (I'm not claiming to be a fucking vig., again this is an theory example to illustrate my point and is best to use myself in the example as to not draw other people into this SHIT) and knew he was FoS (a different kind of FoS, a brown FoS) and...yeah...
The basics of what dreal is saying is actually right tbh. Gin was playing like a total scumfuck regardless of his flip, then fakeclaiming on top just sucked.

Vigilantes dont play hyper aggressively in the daygame and draw lots of attention to themselves the entire time, or publically announce "I will shoot in these 6 people" because if any are scum you're just gonna get yourself NK'd. Or if none are scum then scum will let you shoot and NK someone else.

Gin coulda claimed VT and I might have tried to order everyone off that wagon but the Vig claim couldn't be left alive, not when he played like in such a counterintuitive way to being a vig.
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Post Post #3129 (ISO) » Sat Jan 14, 2017 4:11 pm

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Actually yeah, Dunn seems to not care much about solving this game and he seems scummier the more I think about it. I can't find the town motivation behind his current play
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Post Post #3130 (ISO) » Sat Jan 14, 2017 4:15 pm

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In post 3102, EchoVision wrote:
In post 3101, Alisae wrote:Also nice OMGUS
In post 3099, EchoVision wrote:
In post 3097, Alisae wrote:Yeah. Echo is a lynch that needs to happen.
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Their vote on Gin was scummy as fuck.
There were 9 other people on the gin wagon with me, why are you saying that my vote in particular was scummy?
Yours and Texcat's votes were scummy off the top of my head. Texcat legit hammered the fakeclaim vig and you hopped onto the fakeclaim vig and didn't even consider his claim.
that's cause i knew his claim was straight bullshit. weren't you on his wagon for a while too??
How'd you know it was bullshit though?

I didn't say anything but stayed on the wagon to see what happened, but what did you see?
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Post Post #3131 (ISO) » Sat Jan 14, 2017 4:20 pm

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lots of people are going to die

let's get stringing

dunn looks like a wonderful option too, but, no, alisae first MFMFMFMFMFMFMF
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Post Post #3132 (ISO) » Sat Jan 14, 2017 4:40 pm

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No Alisae is a bad lynch why would you want to lynch him?
Give AI reasons, not policy reasons

Consider that bluescum!Alisae will probably get shot by redscum tonight or tomorrow night
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Post Post #3133 (ISO) » Sat Jan 14, 2017 4:45 pm

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Kyouko, scum is scum. Saying the red or blue team will just shoot x isn't a reason to not push for a lynch if you're scum reading someone.
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Post Post #3134 (ISO) » Sat Jan 14, 2017 4:53 pm

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Wow rb is wrong again
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Post Post #3135 (ISO) » Sat Jan 14, 2017 5:05 pm

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If I had a choice to lynch red or blue today I'd lynch blue, assuming they started with the same amount of players. I don't think there's a good case on alisae anyways, looks like scum taking advantage of people wanting to PL ALisae
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Post Post #3136 (ISO) » Sat Jan 14, 2017 5:17 pm

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In post 3129, rb wrote:Actually yeah, Dunn seems to not care much about solving this game and he seems scummier the more I think about it. I can't find the town motivation behind his current play
nice misrep btw
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Post Post #3137 (ISO) » Sat Jan 14, 2017 5:19 pm

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so it's blue, eh, kyouku?
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Post Post #3138 (ISO) » Sat Jan 14, 2017 5:20 pm

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In post 3108, Alisae wrote:
In post 3102, EchoVision wrote:
In post 3101, Alisae wrote:Also nice OMGUS
In post 3099, EchoVision wrote:
In post 3097, Alisae wrote:Yeah. Echo is a lynch that needs to happen.
VOTE: EchoVision
Their vote on Gin was scummy as fuck.
There were 9 other people on the gin wagon with me, why are you saying that my vote in particular was scummy?
Yours and Texcat's votes were scummy off the top of my head. Texcat legit hammered the fakeclaim vig and you hopped onto the fakeclaim vig and didn't even consider his claim.
that's cause i knew his claim was straight bullshit. weren't you on his wagon for a while too??
After he claimed? Not that I remembered.
And I doubt you thought it was bullshit because you never explained how it was bullshit.
a vig claim, especially on d1 seems too easy to get away with. it's like claiming med in town of Salem. there's not really a way to prove it until your role shows.
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Post Post #3139 (ISO) » Sat Jan 14, 2017 5:24 pm

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???

Vig's shoot people, that's not the same at all
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Post Post #3140 (ISO) » Sat Jan 14, 2017 5:24 pm

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In post 3138, EchoVision wrote:it's like claiming med in town of Salem.
I imagine it's a lot like claiming vig in town of salem.
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Post Post #3141 (ISO) » Sat Jan 14, 2017 5:26 pm

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In post 3130, rb wrote:
In post 3102, EchoVision wrote:
In post 3101, Alisae wrote:Also nice OMGUS
In post 3099, EchoVision wrote:
In post 3097, Alisae wrote:Yeah. Echo is a lynch that needs to happen.
VOTE: EchoVision
Their vote on Gin was scummy as fuck.
There were 9 other people on the gin wagon with me, why are you saying that my vote in particular was scummy?
Yours and Texcat's votes were scummy off the top of my head. Texcat legit hammered the fakeclaim vig and you hopped onto the fakeclaim vig and didn't even consider his claim.
that's cause i knew his claim was straight bullshit. weren't you on his wagon for a while too??
How'd you know it was bullshit though?

I didn't say anything but stayed on the wagon to see what happened, but what did you see?
if I remember correctly, the way he claimed vig was by saying these are the people I will shoot. even if you are a real vig, you don't do that. that's just straight stupid. it just seemed so fake and made up that unless he was a deceptive God it was bullshit
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Post Post #3142 (ISO) » Sat Jan 14, 2017 5:28 pm

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In post 3140, Dunnstral wrote:
In post 3138, EchoVision wrote:it's like claiming med in town of Salem.
I imagine it's a lot like claiming vig in town of salem.
nobody claims vig in town of Salem. not even vig claims vig in town of Salem.
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Post Post #3143 (ISO) » Sat Jan 14, 2017 5:28 pm

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ToS is garbage
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Post Post #3144 (ISO) » Sat Jan 14, 2017 5:31 pm

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In post 3139, Dunnstral wrote:???

Vig's shoot people, that's not the same at all
it's really nothing to do with the shooting part. think of it this way: if you claim cop on d2, you have your n1 results to back you up. if you claim vig, the only thing you have to prove you as vig is the kill that you did, but anybody can claim that they killed them and fabricate a reason behind it. the results of a vig are visible to everyone when the day starts saying who they killed. it's just too easy to claim and get away with...
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Post Post #3145 (ISO) » Sat Jan 14, 2017 5:35 pm

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uh, it's the opposite, anybody can claim an investigative result. In order to claim a kill it has to have happened in the first place. If somebody else is a vig they just shoot the fake claimer... why do people think fake claiming vig is a thing? It's not
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Post Post #3146 (ISO) » Sat Jan 14, 2017 5:37 pm

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Alright lads, I figure this is a good a time as any to mention my own investigate guilty on
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Post Post #3147 (ISO) » Sat Jan 14, 2017 5:41 pm

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VOTE: Echo
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Post Post #3148 (ISO) » Sat Jan 14, 2017 5:47 pm

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honestly, I'm okay with being lynched cause it will reveal my VT role causing your shitty investigative claim to be thrown out the window and you to get lynched tomorrow.
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Post Post #3149 (ISO) » Sat Jan 14, 2017 5:47 pm

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In post 3148, EchoVision wrote:honestly, I'm okay with being lynched cause it will reveal my VT role causing your shitty investigative claim to be thrown out the window and you to get lynched tomorrow.
Fake frustration.
Echo how can you do this to me man xD
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