In Memory

drealmerz7 · Post Post #2800 (ISO) » Sat Jan 14, 2017 4:24 pm

DUDEsmith

I am not clicking any of those - if you have something to say, say it, please

if something is not necessarily AI then it is simply up to us to determine which alignment the player is in THIS SPECIFIC INSTANCE and not use how they were about it in another game, but simply go by how it seems to you in THIS game

mhsmith0 · Post Post #2801 (ISO) » Sat Jan 14, 2017 4:25 pm

wrt creeps, also compare early readslists

http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... 8#p8415868
as scum
note the attempt at paranoia on misa, while basically everything else was zero substance

http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... 3#p8594283
not much content, but the ss thing reads as pretty plausibly honest (no fake pings there), I don't think the lycan one read off either, and overall nothing in particular seems unreasonable

basically a nulltown for me unless I missed something
this game

mhsmith0 · Post Post #2802 (ISO) » Sat Jan 14, 2017 4:25 pm

In post 2800, drealmerz7 wrote:DUDEsmith

I am not clicking any of those - if you have something to say, say it, please

if something is not necessarily AI then it is simply up to us to determine which alignment the player is in THIS SPECIFIC INSTANCE and not use how they were about it in another game, but simply go by how it seems to you in THIS game

basically I have no reason to believe creeps is anything other than really bad and really obvious as scum, so if you want a push there then you need something that suggests that he really screwed up, or that somehow I'm drastically underrating his scum game

drealmerz7 · Post Post #2803 (ISO) » Sat Jan 14, 2017 4:27 pm

perhaps the fact that he barely said shit and when he did it was fishy as fuck and ppl scumread him and so he stfu and maybe replaced out because he felt like an obvious scumfuck?

drealmerz7 · Post Post #2804 (ISO) » Sat Jan 14, 2017 4:28 pm

"woah I suck as scum gotta check out of this seemingly awesome game so I don't destroy my scumteam - let someone better take over"

and he checked the fuck out

first lurked as much as possible and then realized he needed to GTFO

drealmerz7 · Post Post #2805 (ISO) » Sat Jan 14, 2017 4:28 pm

in comes FA to save the day! yayas

drealmerz7 · Post Post #2806 (ISO) » Sat Jan 14, 2017 4:29 pm

btw, RC
updatesyourshits

ɀefiend · Post Post #2807 (ISO) » Sat Jan 14, 2017 4:29 pm

Postie if you have a case for why I'm scum please share so I can address it. Otherwise quit insinuating that I am a lynch choice today based on no reasons.

mhsmith0 · Post Post #2808 (ISO) » Sat Jan 14, 2017 4:30 pm

In post 2803, drealmerz7 wrote:perhaps the fact that he barely said shit and when he did it was fishy as fuck and ppl scumread him and so he stfu and maybe replaced out because he felt like an obvious scumfuck?

did he have reason to feel that way? I mean he's not being wagoned rn. Actually...

@mod: why is creeps not on the current VC http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... 3#p8722703 and the other day 3 VC's?

If that's been asked/answered nevermind I guess.

Postie · Post Post #2809 (ISO) » Sat Jan 14, 2017 4:31 pm

In post 2807, ɀefiend wrote:Postie if you have a case for why I'm scum please share so I can address it. Otherwise quit insinuating that I am a lynch choice today based on no reasons.

As I've already said, I'm waiting for you to address the concerns me and The DEO brought up.

drealmerz7 · Post Post #2810 (ISO) » Sat Jan 14, 2017 4:33 pm

In post 2808, mhsmith0 wrote:
In post 2803, drealmerz7 wrote:perhaps the fact that he barely said shit and when he did it was fishy as fuck and ppl scumread him and so he stfu and maybe replaced out because he felt like an obvious scumfuck?
did he have reason to feel that way? I mean he's not being wagoned rn. Actually...

I think he got several "that was scummy posts" when he posted? it's not about the wagon right now at all, now you are reframing the issue and that pings me

drealmerz7 · Post Post #2811 (ISO) » Sat Jan 14, 2017 4:34 pm

I'm not exactly sure what the issue is even, except you take issue with my current SR on FA and are trying to tie to back to a lack of a SR on creeps 57 years ago? or something?

Postie · Post Post #2812 (ISO) » Sat Jan 14, 2017 4:34 pm

In post 2719, Postie wrote:
In post 2704, MathBlade wrote:I also don't like how you ignore Postie's post of in essence what you are accusing me of if you scumread me.
Also this. So much this.

In post 2720, Postie wrote:I believe Math is referring to 2222, zefiend.

^^^
This needs an answer, zef.

Klingoncelt · Post Post #2813 (ISO) » Sat Jan 14, 2017 4:57 pm

In post 2808, mhsmith0 wrote:
In post 2803, drealmerz7 wrote:perhaps the fact that he barely said shit and when he did it was fishy as fuck and ppl scumread him and so he stfu and maybe replaced out because he felt like an obvious scumfuck?
did he have reason to feel that way? I mean he's not being wagoned rn. Actually...

@mod: why is creeps not on the current VC http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... 3#p8722703 and the other day 3 VC's?

If that's been asked/answered nevermind I guess.

Because Frozen Angel replaced him.

mhsmith0 · Post Post #2814 (ISO) » Sat Jan 14, 2017 5:03 pm

oh duh. looked at the OP saw he was still on the alive list.

Frozen Angel · Post Post #2815 (ISO) » Sat Jan 14, 2017 5:11 pm

@drealm You can shoot me tonight

I'm happy with that!

what are you treathening me with? JC lol

Frozen Angel · Post Post #2816 (ISO) » Sat Jan 14, 2017 5:13 pm

and no You illustrated no points

I asked your read "generally" on the people who are townreading deo

never asked you to tell me why their townreading them

why are you misrepping that crap?

Frozen Angel · Post Post #2817 (ISO) » Sat Jan 14, 2017 5:16 pm

In post 2777, drealmerz7 wrote:you don't get to decide fuck all about anything I do with my role

don't even begin to go there

I am not from MS

I will NOT be directed

if you want to lynch me for playing my role HOW IT SHOULD BE PLAYED AND ACTUALLY SERVES TOWN

then you are going to get a fucking lecture on how to play mafia

you want that right now or you want to take a vote?

1 - I don't care where are you from
2 - You calimed vig and you will be tamed
3 - claiming vig out of nowhere in day 2 in such and scetchy way and shhooting town is not how your role should be played tbh

Frozen Angel · Post Post #2818 (ISO) » Sat Jan 14, 2017 5:20 pm

In post 2769, drealmerz7 wrote:ugh...why...am...I...re-...engaging...likely...bad...but...but...

In post 2763, Frozen Angel wrote: But you illustrated no point
yes, I did, just because you didn't see/understand it (not that you tried), doesn't mean it didn't happen

In post 2763, Frozen Angel wrote:
And I'm actually not? Rc sent me a town role though.
wow, never heard that one before

I'm convinced

*sarcasm*

What did I miss? where you illustrated your point about me being scum? You just screamed "Holy fuck she is asking me something I can't answer and is voting me!" or some shit?

and you should be convinced! You have a scum role and this is conf single ball (unless your a sk or you have traitor?) well even if your town proving my role to you is a faulty burden and I refuse to be pressured for not being able to prove my alignment to you. Thats your job to figure it out and if your town you suck at sorting it atm.

Frozen Angel · Post Post #2819 (ISO) » Sat Jan 14, 2017 5:21 pm

In post 2773, drealmerz7 wrote:
In post 2767, The DEO wrote: Have you considered Drealmerz being an SK? His behavior isn't protown.
so I should have not claimed the shot then? it was anti-town for me to come out and try to not have ppls be confused?

I'm not saying I cleared much up, obviously we still don't know wtf, but I have already been having second, third, fourth thoughts about sharing being right move and trying not to kick myself and then you say shit like this "not being pro-town" and...I GET FUCKING PISSED. It's hard to stay confident that I did the right thing in light of all the shit it has caused, but I still think it was the right thing SO FUCK YOU.

... I'm frustrated...

this is why I think you're scum

you are on an agenda to have ppl scumread me and get me lynched, you do not sound willing to consider what I say is truth AT ALL, you're just trying to find a way to get me scumread

and now it's come around that FA is too

scums afraid of the vig, eh? you fucking should be

You didn't clear anything, Thats the problem with your claim.

and your reaction to pressure is awful

again is that typical for you in your "homesite" ?

Frozen Angel · Post Post #2820 (ISO) » Sat Jan 14, 2017 5:34 pm

In post 2804, drealmerz7 wrote:"woah I suck as scum gotta check out of this seemingly awesome game so I don't destroy my scumteam - let someone better take over"

and he checked the fuck out

first lurked as much as possible and then realized he needed to GTFO

oh and that's a pathetic way for justifying your omgus ...

Total crap

faulty

and pathetic

100% pathetic

mhsmith0 · Post Post #2821 (ISO) » Sat Jan 14, 2017 6:46 pm

Spoiler: VC Data

I've been playing around with some VCA thoughts, but frankly between the inactivity in large spurts from some slots, the multiple people who have weird vote restrictions (postie, gamma, and the d1 zef), and the lack of surety on boring slot (though the arwen claim and valinor result, when it seems like the role flavors don't much overlap at all, suggests scum [I also suspect she had a different LOTR flavor given that technicaly arwen never went to valinor in LOTR mythology, though that might just be nitpicky on my end]), I don't know that any of it is actually much useful.

Anyway, I'll try and give a full readthrough tomorrow, should have time for it then, maybe that'll pop up something more useful.

JaeReed · Post Post #2822 (ISO) » Sat Jan 14, 2017 7:00 pm

In post 2783, drealmerz7 wrote:now, now that I've established that, I'm willing to allow you to discover that for yourself, and will try and best answer whatever questions you have about this/game that game and how I was there and all that (again, not great to use YOU as a reference point since it's not associated in my head) but the game and myself are great things to use/talk about if you want to try and understand ME more and get a read that way

I was using your scumread on my slot & the way you interacted with me because that was the main thing that I had focused on and could remember clearly enough to say the way you're reacting to FA with your scumread here is really different. Hence why I asked how certain you were in that game that I was scum (or my slot, if you'd prefer) so that I could sort whether I am indeed seeing weird behaviour from the way you're interacting with your scumread or whether it's just a difference in the level of confidence in the read.

I mean it doesn't do me much good to talk with you about how you play the game rather than just do my own evaluating of your play. If I'm wrong then it's something that becomes a null tell for next time (or if I get the right read for the wrong reason this time then I'll learn it's a null tell later when you do the same with a different alignment). It's not like I'm going to judge you solely off one thing you do that pings me as different from another game, anyway.

JaeReed · Post Post #2823 (ISO) » Sat Jan 14, 2017 7:01 pm

In post 2784, drealmerz7 wrote:I'm seeing the same vax in this game that I saw in Ttyll, I think that is just his level of play and it makes me uncomfortable to vote him for it unless something more glaring appears

What about my bit on Vedith, his predecessor?

The DEO · Post Post #2824 (ISO) » Sat Jan 14, 2017 7:37 pm

Now I know how other people feel.

5 pages 11 o clock at night...Will read tomorrow.

~~Math head