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Post Post #1475 (ISO) » Sat Jan 14, 2017 9:10 pm

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In post 1471, Alisae wrote:Alright...Yeah, considering Pep's response to it, I think I might consider an ironstove wagon even more now.

At first Pep was like "Eh, I don't really wanna do it, he's probably lynchbait" which comes off as "eh, I don't really wanna bring attention to my scumbuddy."
Then I tell him to do it and he has no excuse.
And now he's like "Eh, he's scummy I guess but I rather lynch Clum and Elena more."
To me this comes across as he never really cared about Ironstove until he was forced to take a stance on it.
Yeah no.
I still belive iron could be lynchbait. His posts are bad, but I don't see the things I'm looking in a scum. His posts are too little, I don't see any tone changes, no inconsistencies, no contradictions. I just say that I can see why y'all vote for him. Tho my two main scumreads (both of wich I think I have better cases on then you have on iron) are on that wagon, so this is furthering my suspicion of iron being a big lynchbait.

Also don't paraphrase my words, I had like one sentence, so use it as it is. With the way you present my words, yeah it does kinda fit your point. But that's not the case.
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Post Post #1476 (ISO) » Sat Jan 14, 2017 9:12 pm

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I've created a trend

Ranger started the cryptic lists, but I've added colors to them. :D
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Post Post #1477 (ISO) » Sat Jan 14, 2017 9:13 pm

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Alisae: That was beautiful. Thanks, I think I migh-zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
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Post Post #1478 (ISO) » Sat Jan 14, 2017 9:13 pm

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Pep I think you're swimming up a river named Denial.
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Post Post #1479 (ISO) » Sat Jan 14, 2017 9:13 pm

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In post 1438, Alisae wrote:All my TRs want Ironstove...
Am I missing something?
Like he's on V/LA...
You're missing a vote on Iron. Townbloc gooooooo
In post 1459, Pepchoninga wrote:
In post 1415, Elena Fisher wrote:Pep's last post was really good and a lot of people wanting to lynch him makes me go to paranoia city
VOTE: Iron
Let's make this wagon take off
I dislike this. Hopping back on a wagon that she was in before she voted me. Tho after seing that he push on me was weak and didn't get any attention and she knew she's not getting me lynched, she again hops on iron.

OPPORTUNISTIC AT ITS BEST
lolno

Revoting a wagon you were already on is the opposite of opportunistic. It's consistent.

@Clumsy1473 - What's up with wallposts I don't want to snip? Okay, the shut up was rude, but I tend to be a bit brusque with my SRs. It isn't your fault you inherited that slot. By yourself, I'd be objecting to your reads, which are mostly ridiculous, but wouldn't be hard SRing you. The problem is that you're failing to redeem a scummy slot.

Holy shit check out the whiteknighting that Pep is doing. Iron flips scum, we do Pep next.
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Post Post #1480 (ISO) » Sat Jan 14, 2017 9:14 pm

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In post 1473, Clumsy wrote:Can't sleep. Work in 7 hours. Ugh. Gonna do some low effort required things, I'll still get to the big things tomorrow or sometime.
In post 1448, Pepchoninga wrote: Here is another thing. You just said that Ram was a scumfuck the whole day 1 before you replaced him. That would mean that you agree behind the reasoning of people who SR Ram. Yet now you say that you agree with Peregrive's top town reads and well they include Ram. This seems like a minor contradiction, but it has big meaning to the fact that you should never just frame you predecessor, so you can try and look towny.
Bad phrasing on my part. I'm saying he's right about those reads. Sorry for confusion.

Pepchoninga wrote:Another thing I found interesting about Clumsy. (Won't be providing quotes, but if needed, will do.)

He asks Trans I think, why he think I'm lynchbait but not iron. This means he belives that iron is lynchbait. Yet a few posts late he VOTES iron.

Minor contradiction with BIG meaning.
In post 1411, Clumsy wrote: What makes you so sure that Pep is lynch bait, but Iron isn't? I'm not saying I disagree with you, but I want to know your reasons.
I'm asking that question to see what they think is different between the two. I even point out that I don't necessarily agree or disagree, I'm picking their brain. Nowhere did I say that I think Iron is lynchbait. If I thought someone was lynchbait, they wouldn't be on the bottom of my readlists. Don't misrep me.
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In post 1415, Elena Fisher wrote:Pep's last post was really good and a lot of people wanting to lynch him makes me go to paranoia city
VOTE: Iron
Let's make this wagon take off
I dislike this. Hopping back on a wagon that she was in before she voted me. Tho after seing that he push on me was weak and didn't get any attention and she knew she's not getting me lynched, she again hops on iron.

OPPORTUNISTIC AT ITS BEST
Might have a point here. I'll keep that in mind when rereading this slot.
In post 1439, BigYoshiFan wrote:Idc as long as he's not at L-1 where someone can lolhammer him.
I like everyone on the wagon except Clumsy, but that could easily change when he responds tomorrow.
Is that because of Ram, or because of me?
In post 1436, Pine wrote: @Clumsy 1398 - Not quoting and snipping that long fucker of a post. Transcend is super obvTown. Shut up unless it is to scumhunt the other team or tell us yours.
In post 1405, Clumsy wrote:Pine, how much can I trust you?
In this game? Entirely. This is me in Strahd. Transcend is my Andrius, Alisae is Sly, and regrettably, you replaced Dunnstral.
In post 1409, Transcend wrote:Clumsy is town.

Final answer, Regis.
WHAT. Disagree. Stop it. You were on board a bit ago.
Well the shut up was unnecessarily rude. :? Is your scumread a remnant of the slot, or do you take issue with the new occupant?



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In post 1432, BigYoshiFan wrote:Hey Clumsy, when you get some time, could you give me your reasoning behind your reads on me, ironstove, ConManMick, and Manuel? Reading through your catch-up, I'm not satisfied with how you've explained these reads.
I will still do this in more detail at some point in the very near future. Short versions: I believe the Ironstove wagon is pretty explained by everything going on above, and that's pretty much the gist of mine too. Mick and Manuel have had a very rough start in this game, but I am confident in my townread of them for reasons I can't talk about right now. For you, it's a bit of an odd read because I agree with most of your reads, but I can't shake this feeling that you're hunting scum as a member of the opposite scum team. But I've never done a large game before, or even read one, so I'm kind of going on instinct for how all that works. The interaction between you and Alisae around 670ish really seems off for me, on your side.


Question for you, what is your progression from this:
In post 666, BigYoshiFan wrote:
In post 663, Alisae wrote:But Yoshi you like how I'm pushing Pep yet you scumread me.
I mean, I understand this is multiball, but that's just weird.
Multiball is one reason.
Your uncharacteristic and poorly-evidenced defense of gerry is another.
This being early in the game (so my reads could all be wack and Pep could be town) is another.
In post 668, Alisae wrote:Yoshi why do I feel like your read on me is complete bullshit?
In post 671, BigYoshiFan wrote:
In post 668, Alisae wrote:Yoshi why do I feel like your read on me is complete bullshit?
I don't know, because you're scum and don't wanna believe it?
to this:
In post 1235, BigYoshiFan wrote:
{Transcend, Gerryoat}

{Elena Fisher, Pine}

{Jaack, PV, Alisae}

{LemonTree, drealmerz7, Gamma Emerald, Ramcius/Clumsy}

{PenguinPower}

{Manuel87, kuror0}

{ConManMick, ironstove, Pepchoninga}


I stole your rainbow reads Transcend. XD
Putting Alisae above the null line? I didn't where a shift in your read came from, but it is 3 A.M. here and I should be asleep.
1. As much as I would like to se it as confusion, I can't sorry.
2. Well, I'm just saying how I read that post. You asked why does ztrans think I'm lynchbait and iron is not. This SHOULD mean that you think that iron is lynchbait too. I don't think this counts as a misrep.
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Post Post #1481 (ISO) » Sat Jan 14, 2017 9:14 pm

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I've decided
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Post Post #1482 (ISO) » Sat Jan 14, 2017 9:15 pm

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The iron lynch owns
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Post Post #1483 (ISO) » Sat Jan 14, 2017 9:15 pm

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In post 1478, Alisae wrote:Pep I think you're swimming up a river named Denial.
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Post Post #1484 (ISO) » Sat Jan 14, 2017 9:16 pm

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My reads are fine, yours are wrong. At least some of them. Question for you: if Iron flips town, what do you think of Pep?
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Post Post #1485 (ISO) » Sat Jan 14, 2017 9:17 pm

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VOTE: Ironstove
Yeah, I'm down for this now BECUASE of Pep.
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Post Post #1486 (ISO) » Sat Jan 14, 2017 9:17 pm

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In post 1482, Transcend wrote:The iron lynch owns
I like the pressure, but I want more interaction before a lynch decision.
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Post Post #1487 (ISO) » Sat Jan 14, 2017 9:17 pm

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Fuck, Alisae, they woke me up again. Gotta go read your post again.
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Post Post #1488 (ISO) » Sat Jan 14, 2017 9:17 pm

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In post 1484, Clumsy wrote:My reads are fine, yours are wrong. At least some of them. Question for you: if Iron flips town, what do you think of Pep?
Probably scum working too hard for towncred.
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Post Post #1489 (ISO) » Sat Jan 14, 2017 9:18 pm

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In post 1479, Pine wrote:
In post 1438, Alisae wrote:All my TRs want Ironstove...
Am I missing something?
Like he's on V/LA...
You're missing a vote on Iron. Townbloc gooooooo
In post 1459, Pepchoninga wrote:
In post 1415, Elena Fisher wrote:Pep's last post was really good and a lot of people wanting to lynch him makes me go to paranoia city
VOTE: Iron
Let's make this wagon take off
I dislike this. Hopping back on a wagon that she was in before she voted me. Tho after seing that he push on me was weak and didn't get any attention and she knew she's not getting me lynched, she again hops on iron.

OPPORTUNISTIC AT ITS BEST
lolno

Revoting a wagon you were already on is the opposite of opportunistic. It's consistent.

@Clumsy1473 - What's up with wallposts I don't want to snip? Okay, the shut up was rude, but I tend to be a bit brusque with my SRs. It isn't your fault you inherited that slot. By yourself, I'd be objecting to your reads, which are mostly ridiculous, but wouldn't be hard SRing you. The problem is that you're failing to redeem a scummy slot.

Holy shit check out the whiteknighting that Pep is doing. Iron flips scum, we do Pep next.
No it's not considering the circumstances. His read on me was shit, he didn't get the attention he wanted, so he hoped in on the iron wagon apthat started getting speed. Keep in mind he got off the iron wagon in the first place in a similar scenarion.

How am I whiteknighting here? Your cases iron are not that good, sorry. You haven't given a thought about my cases for the Ram slot, nor the Elena slot. I've been actively scumhunting and keeping faith in my SRs. Most of you have been sheeping a wagon that is meh on a person that has 15 posts and is V/Lo.
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Post Post #1490 (ISO) » Sat Jan 14, 2017 9:18 pm

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And even if this flips town, we could probably look back at the earlier wagons and see who tried to push it right away.
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Post Post #1491 (ISO) » Sat Jan 14, 2017 9:19 pm

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In post 1488, Pine wrote:
In post 1484, Clumsy wrote:My reads are fine, yours are wrong. At least some of them. Question for you: if Iron flips town, what do you think of Pep?
Probably scum working too hard for towncred.
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Post Post #1492 (ISO) » Sat Jan 14, 2017 9:20 pm

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Pep, you are definitionally whiteknighting. Let me link to HOW IS THERE NO WIKI PAGE ON WHITE KNIGHTING.

I must learn how to Wiki in order to write one.
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Post Post #1493 (ISO) » Sat Jan 14, 2017 9:25 pm

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In post 1492, Pine wrote:Pep, you are definitionally whiteknighting. Let me link to HOW IS THERE NO WIKI PAGE ON WHITE KNIGHTING.

I must learn how to Wiki in order to write one.
Explain it then.

But really how is me, who has 2 strong reads, and has actively pushed them and thinks that should be the wagon for today be whiteknighting a wagon he doesn't like? I understand this is multiball but please put some thought in al that.
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Post Post #1494 (ISO) » Sat Jan 14, 2017 9:41 pm

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Ay Pep.
Did you know,
that I'm a Noivce 1-Shot Desperado.
You know what this means?
This means if you're town, I'm going to die.
And if you're scum, you are going to die.
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Post Post #1495 (ISO) » Sat Jan 14, 2017 9:42 pm

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Pep or I iz gun git rekt ;)
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Post Post #1496 (ISO) » Sat Jan 14, 2017 10:00 pm

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OVERDESPERADO: mic [/vote]

on the contrary, neither of you will die.
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Post Post #1497 (ISO) » Sat Jan 14, 2017 10:01 pm

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shit.

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Post Post #1498 (ISO) » Sat Jan 14, 2017 10:02 pm

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FAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAKE
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Post Post #1499 (ISO) » Sat Jan 14, 2017 10:02 pm

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I mean yours not mine.
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