In post 1668, Jaack wrote:I like this Clumsy wagon a lot more than the iron one.
I still think iron+pepcho makes some sense, but I'm more confident in pepcho scum than iron scum so I'd rather lynch that first.
But yeah, let's lynch clumsy. Ramcius was scumlord and clumsy has been pretty blah, leaning scum.
Sooo I don't like this post. Basically he is saying this. I think Pep is more likely to be scum then iron. So let's lynch that first. But yeah, let's lynch clumsy. Cuz he is leaning scum. Uuuuu, no.
In post 1668, Jaack wrote:I like this Clumsy wagon a lot more than the iron one.
I still think iron+pepcho makes some sense, but I'm more confident in pepcho scum than iron scum so I'd rather lynch that first.
But yeah, let's lynch clumsy. Ramcius was scumlord and clumsy has been pretty blah, leaning scum.
Sooo I don't like this post. Basically he is saying this. I think Pep is more likely to be scum then iron. So let's lynch that first. But yeah, let's lynch clumsy. Cuz he is leaning scum. Uuuuu, no.
That's like not at all what I'm saying.
I'm saying that Clumsy's slot as a whole is scummy. Clumsy by himself is just scumleaning, but Ramcius was How to Scumlord 101. So combined they are still super scummy.
That would be my preference.
My second preference would be to lynch you. I think you are independently rather scummy but not to the point of Ram/Clumsy. I also think that your reaction to iron's wagon was that of a likely scumpartner. I don't really have any issue with iron's stuff alone, but your connection to him makes him a viable lynch after you've been flipped scum. The "let's lynch that first" is let's lynch you before we lynch iron. I think it's pretty clear with both where my vote is and my focus on lynching the ramcius/clumsy slot that I want to do that lynch D1 above all else.
Jaack has one maf game and in that maf game he didn't bus.
Reason why I asked for his other games was to see if he was a busser.
So far I think he could have attempted to bus Pep, but I dunno if that's the case or not.
In post 1415, Elena Fisher wrote:Pep's last post was really good and a lot of people wanting to lynch him makes me go to paranoia city VOTE: Iron
Let's make this wagon take off
I dislike this. Hopping back on a wagon that she was in before she voted me. Tho after seing that he push on me was weak and didn't get any attention and she knew she's not getting me lynched, she again hops on iron.
OPPORTUNISTIC AT ITS BEST
??? Did you not see about 5 people saying "I'd vote Pep" if I wanted to stay on your wagon I could I don't know how you see this as opportunistic
In post 1597, Fro99er wrote:Iron wagon is scum motivated and clumsy' seas the grossest. Especially after listing iron as his top scumread several times before finally voting him with a half-assed sense of care of doing so
Oh man, I wonder if that had to do with me playing catchup a little at a time, and not wanting to place a vote that affects the current gamestate while I'm reading the past gamestate. Just a thought though. :P
Just got off work, need to read the newest pages.
@Yoshi: thanks for the explanation. Clears that up for me.
In post 1415, Elena Fisher wrote:Pep's last post was really good and a lot of people wanting to lynch him makes me go to paranoia city VOTE: Iron
Let's make this wagon take off
I dislike this. Hopping back on a wagon that she was in before she voted me. Tho after seing that he push on me was weak and didn't get any attention and she knew she's not getting me lynched, she again hops on iron.
OPPORTUNISTIC AT ITS BEST
??? Did you not see about 5 people saying "I'd vote Pep" if I wanted to stay on your wagon I could I don't know how you see this as opportunistic
Um no...people were saying this long after this. Pine was one of the little people that actually SR me at that time. You were the only player on my wagon and had shit reasons to be on it. You realized it and hopped on a wagon that was gaining speed. Explain to me how it isn't opportunistic.
In post 1597, Fro99er wrote:Iron wagon is scum motivated and clumsy' seas the grossest. Especially after listing iron as his top scumread several times before finally voting him with a half-assed sense of care of doing so
Oh man, I wonder if that had to do with me playing catchup a little at a time, and not wanting to place a vote that affects the current gamestate while I'm reading the past gamestate. Just a thought though.
Just got off work, need to read the newest pages.
@Yoshi: thanks for the explanation. Clears that up for me.
explain your case on iron so it's not buried in spoiler tags.
"I officially announce Fro99er the king of guilties because this is the second time he has guiltied a slot I was really unsure about.
Heil King Froggo.
Ribbit ribbit." -Transcend
In post 1597, Fro99er wrote:Iron wagon is scum motivated and clumsy' seas the grossest. Especially after listing iron as his top scumread several times before finally voting him with a half-assed sense of care of doing so
In what way was it the grossest? The fact that I had him scumread through most if not all of my catch up? How after I decided on reads for most of the (active) playlist, he was at the bottom so I voted him? How dare I hold my vote until I'm caught up to the present game. :P
In post 1398, Clumsy wrote:While some of your reads are just plain wrong, why the hell is Ramicus on the town side of things? I don't think there's been anything there to warrant that, unless you just think that it's mislynch bait?
Scum reading your own slot?
Eeeewww.
I was asked to give my thoughts about my predescessor. There they are. They played horribly and put me in a horrible position to try to salvage this slot. I was expecting to get a red PM, and I was actually a little hoping for that, because I have more fun as Mafia. I was expecting that because I read a bit of the game before I got my PM, and based on how things were reading, I thought I would be picking up a scum PM. But if my honest thoughts are "wrong" to you, here's this.
My slot has played a perfectly good town game and no one should have scumread Ram at any point in the game. He obv towned so hard that everyone in the game simultaneously townread him, all the way until he replaced out. -rainbows-
Now, hopefully you can feel better about that and I can actual play a realist game. Slot played like shit before I got here. I'm not saying I'm stupendously better, but I'm trying to work with a bad situation as best I can. Yes, if I wasn't playing this slot and Ram was still playing it, I'd be fine with voting him, from an outside perspective.
In post 1429, Clumsy wrote:What I have on you is mostly gut and what I pointed out that you (obviously noticed). It's a small read and very subject to change. Think null-null-scum
In other words...
"I put you in my scum list because I didn't have a reason so i'll make it up as "gut" and weasel my way out of my fake scum read on you"
In post 1398, Clumsy wrote:
Yeah no. Nice framework you got going on there though. It's a weak null-scum read. That's why it's between my null and null-scum tiers. How dare I express reads.
In post 908, Pine wrote:Trying to decide. No worries, that was a Townish response.
I hereby declare the founding of a Townbloc. Transcend, Alisae, Pine.
I don't get why Transcend is in this. What is your reasoning for Transcend being town at this point in the thread Pine? Also, is this still your version of this townbloc?
**snip wall**
Past post 1000, Transcend's posts are starting to look better.
In post 61, gerryoat wrote:FINALLY ANOTHER GAME WITH TRANSCEND. (i hope our distancing is good lol)
but really i havent read anything. i'm about to go to ihop. i'm still on vacation until the 11th now, just to let you know my activity will be spotty until then
what did you order
IF YOU DIDNT ORDER CHICKEN N WAFFLES IM SHOOTING YOU
In post 339, Alisae wrote:Trans it's moreso I think it's oppertunistic play moreso then wagon hopping.
Ironstove was getting votes, he goes to hop to that.
Then he places a vote on Pep felt like a really strange and awkward hop.
And then he gives you a vote for, what reason exactly?
I can't say anything for the first two votes but his vote on me was 100% a meme.
Gamma's game very different from what i saw him as a town, i don't like gerry play, Pep with his neutral stance and i don't feel him to try scumhunt, Alisae i still don't like, i was amazed how he told he don't remember my playstyle, when 2 days ago called me bullheaded for my aggressive playstyle in other game, also fake claim at start of game, Peregrine i see calling people scums, but no reasonings, no pushing, and very few posts in general, i know there are other people with little content, but i won't judge them till they post more
How long have you had these reads?
And how much do you rely on meta?
And I don't agree that Pep is neutral. He started off weird and awkward, I'll give you that, but now I feel he's proactively trying to solve the game and getting his hands really dirty.
What are your opinions on say, ConManMick and Manuel87?
I want one of my reds to hang, and I want my orange and yellow reads to advance their thought processes a bit.
In post 874, Transcend wrote:Jaack I know you gave a big reads list, but I put you as null because it looks like you're only focused on one slot (Ramcius) when there's 16 other slots, viewing your ISO. I want you to engage with others besides Ram.
PEDIT: I see no one post inflating anymore. That was definitely present in the beginning, but I think everything's simmered down at this point.
Why is Manuel genuine? What do you make of his entrance to the Pep vote he made?
If you're not there and you posted between page 1 to 10, your posting is fine.
I don't agree with two of these, I can maybe see one of these, and I heavily agree with one of them.
I want you to finish reading the game, and expand on these reads a bit.
In post 876, Transcend wrote:PP I know that you've read this game (at least some of it) and I know you didn't site flake. Can you key us in on what you thought?
I put all my thoughts in multiple consecutive posts because I say all I want to say at one point, then I think of something else and blah blah blah.
In post 880, Transcend wrote:Oh I figured you fosed him since you put Pep in the pool of mafia when I asked you
In post 882, Transcend wrote:Because Lemon was in the process of reading the game and Penguin said that he had read all the game. I didn't like Lemon's skim through, but I really didn't like Penguin offering nothing of substance having read the game.
In post 883, Transcend wrote:As for Alisae I don't really like his tone, I don't like his voting patterns, I think his vote on Ramcius is more "who I can easily get lynched" rather than "who I think is scum".
In post 940, Transcend wrote:Manny/Mick probably separate factions. I doubt they put two of their eggs on one obv town lynch.
In post 943, Transcend wrote:Gerry is one of my heaviest reads in the game with substantial logic that you neglect to acknowledge.
You might be on to something, but you're also possibly scum there.
The Mick lynch will be a thing and nothing is stopping that.
In post 1160, Transcend wrote:The following:
Alisae
BigYoshiFan
Gerryoat
Pepchoninga
PeregrineV
Pine
Ramciusslot
The following:
Drealmerz7
Elena Fisher
Gamma Emerald
Ironstove
Jaack
Kuror0
Lemon Tree
PenguinPower
The following:
ConManMick
Manuel87
In post 1161, Transcend wrote:Can anyone tell me what each of those lists represent?
In post 1166, Transcend wrote:People that are advancing well, and won't die today even if they are scum
People that need to advance more, or I'll want to have die
People who can die
then I don't think I can help you. Enjoy that wall btw. Now, after that point, there is still some shitposting in there, but the ratio isn't 9:1 shitposting to content anymore. It's closer to 1:1, which I'm guessing is normal for Transcend.
I don't like the interaction between Alisae and fro99er on p. 66. Looks fishy. I also don't like how easily the wagon shifted to my slot. Why was there so much resistance to voting Ironstove but none to my slot?
I feel like Pep is using this as a way to scumread me without looking like he's pushing attention elsewhere.
At the very least, clumsy and iron don't appear to be aligned (just ISO clumsy and you'll see what I mean)
FINALLY SOMEONE AKNOWLEDGES HOW SCUMMY THE DUDE IS.
We've all been doing it...
We just haven't been voting there yet.
No you ain't. I've asked multiple times for you to get on his wagon, considering all the points I made against the slot and my request to at least look at our interactions were mostly ignored. You instead opted for fake claims and bad reaction tests.
The fact that all you've done this game is sheep isn't any less disgusting too. But I hate the Ram slot, so for now I think you are in the right direction.
Why? Again, not agreeing or disagreeing (Pep, looking at you here), but I want reasoning.
Again, how the hell is Ironstove avoiding being the major wagon right now? We had a lot of people on him, and it dissolved quickly and easily with not much input from him. Why is there so much resistance there?
I want everyone (or most of everyone that we can get that is) to give their read on Pine. I'll explain why later if I really have to, but I'd love to not have to. A lynch on my slot isn't going to happen. If it does, town has already lost to the scum teams.
