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CloudKicker · Sun Jan 15, 2017 8:27 am

Okay i trust you, dont make me regret it

CloudKicker · Sun Jan 15, 2017 8:27 am

Lets assume gerryboat was the nightkill for today only

CloudKicker · Sun Jan 15, 2017 8:28 am

Yea, the optimal play for mefia is to rb ali and kill me, if not i can make i auto singel handedly if we lynch maifa and i rb the 2nd mafia

CloudKicker · Sun Jan 15, 2017 8:29 am

Gerryboat, can you give me your opinions on the lynch pool today?

ssssnake
pokemon brat
deathstar
elephant
gamma

CloudKicker · Sun Jan 15, 2017 8:36 am

So from your pov, its 2/3 in gamma deathstar elephant

CloudKicker · Sun Jan 15, 2017 9:30 am

In post 1293, gerryoat wrote:unless you're maf of course, but. at least 1 maf in there

not mefia

CloudKicker · Sun Jan 15, 2017 9:55 am

I agree with elephant, but i think we can afford to lynch outside today and in the lowest chance that gerry can clear himself, it works for me

CloudKicker · Sun Jan 15, 2017 9:56 am

Commuter is just completly untargetable, commuter is the first action in any night in the natural nights actions yada yada, commuter leaves the town altogether

CloudKicker · Sun Jan 15, 2017 9:57 am

In post 1306, Alisae wrote:Hell, it could even be a BG shot.

not a bad idea, i think in the gerryboat's boots i would try my best to use it effectively and buy myself 1 night even if i cant clear myself if my target isnt the night kill

CloudKicker · Sun Jan 15, 2017 10:01 am

In case of emergency breakdown of the Golden Rule
If there is really no other option, the traditional recommendation of Natural Action Resolution is to pick whichever of the conflicting actions comes first on the following list, and resolve it first:

Copy
Hide <- this is commuter category
Bus
Block <- this is rb category
Redirect
Protect
Miscellaneous
Kill
Recruit
Inspect

CloudKicker · Sun Jan 15, 2017 10:02 am

Alisae, a joat friendly neighbot, an investigate coperinos, a town odd night rb seems a bit much to me

CloudKicker · Sun Jan 15, 2017 10:09 am

ily gerryboat i hope you are town <3

CloudKicker · Sun Jan 15, 2017 10:12 am

idk, i kinda agree with your reads, i cant see pokemons as mefia, especially if you are town. Sssssnake i dont want really want to lynch today

CloudKicker · Sun Jan 15, 2017 10:47 am

i dont want elephant cause i think hed be town if gerry boat is mefia which is something we will know tomorow regardless of todays lynch so i dont want that

CloudKicker · Sun Jan 15, 2017 10:48 am

I prefer to look into gamma jarjar and maybe revisit ssssssnake but in the last resort

CloudKicker · Sun Jan 15, 2017 10:50 am

Lynching town elephant who wanted to lynch mefia gerryboat would be really really stupido if gerry flips scum tomorow in the event he fails to clears himself

CloudKicker · Sun Jan 15, 2017 10:51 am

If gerryboat is town, we will know tomorow and then we can rethink about the elephant lyncherino with a clear gerry boat

CloudKicker · Sun Jan 15, 2017 10:58 am

Gamma hasnt posted for 5 ish days and hasnt been prodded

@ mod

CloudKicker · Sun Jan 15, 2017 11:00 am

I think i wouldve just speedlynched the gamma and coped jar/sssnake

CloudKicker · Sun Jan 15, 2017 11:01 am

i can see both jar and gamma being scummy, but i think jar has a non-team tells with gerryboat as well

CloudKicker · Sun Jan 15, 2017 11:01 am

i also think the way elephant pushed on gerryboat looked much more like town than how jar did

CloudKicker · Sun Jan 15, 2017 11:03 am

alisea, would you be down to massclaim beside gerry going into details of his shots and your slots, so to know if theres another pr claim

CloudKicker · Sun Jan 15, 2017 11:04 am

yea thats what i meant, dont full claim same for gerry

CloudKicker · Sun Jan 15, 2017 11:06 am

i want to do this because i think most, if not all, town prs claimed and i dont want to let mafia the possibility to claim pr later in the game, we are at a disadvantage as town so i think forcing everyone to claim would regive some of that disadvantage back

CloudKicker · Sun Jan 15, 2017 2:17 pm

Elephant is towntelling a lot imo, i agree with everything he said but i gave the BOTD to gerry when he does not, i think we can afford to not lynch gerryboat today thats all there is to it, no town loss (maybe possible role cop gerry boat telling hispartners or a special night ability hed want to use ) versus a possible clear + gaining back a ml we would use on gerry, i think its fair to say that the risk/reward of lynching outside today is greater on the reward side, all of this is possible only and ONLY because we can afford to lynch outside, its the start of the game. Gerrys boat aligement will either be CONF TOWN OR LYNCHED. I personnaly think gerryboat is mefia, but he wont get to lead the lynch today but gives input, im giving him the grace to prove me wrong and to live longer, thats all elephant. Do you undertand why its okay to lynch outside ?

CloudKicker · Sun Jan 15, 2017 2:20 pm

I also would like you to scumhunt outside, if you have a strong gerryboat fos then from your pov jarjarbikes shouldnt be mefia, that would leave 1 mefia in pokemon/sssnake/gamma from your pov. Can you give me your reads on those sluts

CloudKicker · Sun Jan 15, 2017 2:26 pm

CloudKicker · Sun Jan 15, 2017 2:29 pm

Two names back to back to the mod to confirm my night action. Like this:

first pm : Heyo id like to rb x plz

Second pm 30 sec after the 1st pm : nvm ima rb gerryboat

And then the mod answered he confirmd my visit on gerryboat

ps: i dont want to go into toooo much details idk how much is allowed to paraphrase but this is what happened, the mod error could be plausible if he didnt confirm my 2nd pm as precisely as he did

CloudKicker · Sun Jan 15, 2017 2:31 pm

i hope my answer pleases you

CloudKicker · Sun Jan 15, 2017 2:36 pm

I proposed it yes, i explained why its because i think all the town prs claimed

CloudKicker · Sun Jan 15, 2017 2:41 pm

elephant with mefias in my dreams

CloudKicker · Sun Jan 15, 2017 2:46 pm

gamma has done nothing AI imo so its hard to say

CloudKicker · Sun Jan 15, 2017 2:52 pm

gerryboat you know you could be mefia who wants to use an ability, scumreading you and wanting you lynched today just because of your words doesnt make them mefia

CloudKicker · Sun Jan 15, 2017 2:57 pm

Why would you fliping town would point to me being fake at all

CloudKicker · Sun Jan 15, 2017 3:12 pm

In post 1422, gerryoat wrote:
In post 1419, CloudKicker wrote:Why would you fliping town would point to me being fake at all
They would push on you. and it's possible for you to be maf who claimed rb after the nk on me

It is impossible, you try to push that idea one more time i lynch you today

CloudKicker · Sun Jan 15, 2017 3:13 pm

YOU KNOW i would never nk like a retard just to guilty you w/o an investigative role fake claim

CloudKicker · Sun Jan 15, 2017 3:16 pm

Well, we can better read if its working setup wise etc

CloudKicker · Sun Jan 15, 2017 3:18 pm

lol ali wat

CloudKicker · Sun Jan 15, 2017 3:19 pm

Hes implying that he has to ''give'' or make the mod tell someone his alignement, its nights actions

CloudKicker · Sun Jan 15, 2017 3:20 pm

Im still okay giving him botd, lets stop talking about gerrycoat and try to lynch mefia outside @ali

CloudKicker · Sun Jan 15, 2017 4:54 pm

Ck thinks ali should stop exercising the gymnastics of her mind :3

CloudKicker · Sun Jan 15, 2017 4:55 pm

Even if i wanted to hammer jarjarbikes the mod is not there, so zz

CloudKicker · Sun Jan 15, 2017 6:44 pm

jarjarbikes has 2 votes only

CloudKicker · Mon Jan 16, 2017 5:05 am

pokemon ill lynch you before the elephant

CloudKicker · Mon Jan 16, 2017 5:06 am

i explained why elephant is a terrible lynch today because of gerrys confirmaiton of alignement tomorow whatever happens, going for someone who didnt interact with the gerry slut, aka gamma is really really better

CloudKicker · Mon Jan 16, 2017 5:07 am

elephant and gerry arent mafia together, his push is fucking genuine

CloudKicker · Mon Jan 16, 2017 5:08 am

pokemon is just mafsiding really hard like he always did since the start of the game

CloudKicker · Mon Jan 16, 2017 5:12 am

In post 1459, XnadrojX wrote:Since CK is untouchable for incomprehensible reasons, I'm gonna ask someone
that's not CK or Gerry
to explain why he's a bad lynch.

As I said, I'm going to jump on the biggest wagon between Nadpool and CK, and since CK is untouchable I'm voting nadpool. The reason being the plausible scumteam right now is NadPool/JarJar, Me/Gerry, CK/Nadpool, CK/Gerry, where nadpool is in 2/4 of them while JarJar is in 1/4 of them. If nadpool flips scum it leads to scum possibilities being JarJar and CK while JarJar scumflop leads to nadpool. But if JarJar townflups, it gives us virtually no info since nadpool could still be scum with CK, while Nadpool townflups at least puts JarJar in a better light.

If anyone can say why JarJar is a better lynch than Nadpool, or that what other possible scumteam there are, pls enlighten me. Also why is CK untouchable.

Do you seriously think we could be both mafia in any world ? How does ppl like you function in real life

CloudKicker · Mon Jan 16, 2017 5:16 am

In post 1474, JarJarDrinks wrote:who's pokemon?

mudkip

i am really againts the elephant lynch, i think its counterproductive, we should re-evaluate elephants' play with the gerry flip, not lynch a slut wed get a TONS of infos when we end up getting gerrys flip, i would prefer to revisit ssssnake/jarjarbikes and gamma like i said

CloudKicker · Mon Jan 16, 2017 5:21 am

The x's guy

CloudKicker · Mon Jan 16, 2017 5:26 am

I explained, twice already. This table has an habit of asking me about stuf i already explained a bunch of times

CloudKicker · Mon Jan 16, 2017 5:28 am

IF GERRY IS MEFIA, ELEPHANT IS TOWN
IF GERRY IS TOWN, ELEPHANT IS ?

IF TODAY WE LYNCH ELEPHANT, HE FLIPS TOWN AND TOMOROW GERRY FAILS TO CLEAR HIMSELF, WE LNYHC GERRY AND GERRY APPEAR MAFIA -> IT WOULDVE LEAD TO ELEPHANT BEING TOWN BUT ITS TOO LATE BECAUSE WE LYNCHED HIM THE DAY PRIOR GERRY FLIPS

IF WE LYNCH OUTSIDE TODAY LIKE ON SSSSNAKE/GAMMA/JARJARBIKES -> GERRY FLIPS MAFIA TOMOROW -> WE GOT A LOT ON INFOS ON ELEPHANTS' SLUT AND WE CAN SORT HIS ALIGNEMENT FAIRLY EASILY

CloudKicker · Mon Jan 16, 2017 5:29 am

I AM NOT LYNCHING GERRY IN THE SEEMINGLY LITTLE TINY BITTY CHANCE HE CAN CLEAR HIMSELF, WE CAN AFFORD TO GIVE HIM 1 NIGHT

CloudKicker · Mon Jan 16, 2017 5:31 am

And ftr, the posts i hate the most individually outside gerryboat are ssssnake's

CloudKicker · Mon Jan 16, 2017 5:34 am

ELEPHANT I SWEAR TO GOD, IF GERRY FAILS TO CLEAR HIMSELF IN A 100% TRUSTABLE WAY, HE HAS TO SELF, IF HE DOES NOT HE IS SCUMCLAIMING. THE ONLY REASON HES NOT DED ALREADY IS BECAUSE I DONT WANT TO MAYBE RUIN THE GAME

CloudKicker · Mon Jan 16, 2017 5:35 am

Technically, if we miss today and gerry is town tomorow, its lylo. At this point i still think we would have enough infos to lynch correctly in the even gerry is town. If gerry is scum we still have 1 ml if we miss today, its all good to let him have 1 night

CloudKicker · Mon Jan 16, 2017 5:39 am

Elephant vs Gerrycoat [not a team, 0-1 mefia]
Jarjardicks, pokemon, sssnake, gamma [1-2 mefias]

CloudKicker · Mon Jan 16, 2017 5:40 am

In post 1490, eagerSnake wrote:Alright how bout this, if gerry doesn't 100% clear himself we lynch him,
and if he flips scum we lynch CloudKicker

wtf is this, you are pokemon level dense

CloudKicker · Mon Jan 16, 2017 5:40 am

In post 1493, Nadpool wrote:Nadpool points out it is not lylo tomorrow under any circumstance.

i implied 2 more nights, you misread

CloudKicker · Mon Jan 16, 2017 5:41 am

VOTE: eagerSnake this is my lynch for today but if gamma comes back and do something

CloudKicker · Mon Jan 16, 2017 5:43 am

@ali i sincerely dont believe in an elephant lynch for pusturizing and i dont believe his slut will flip red anytime soon

CloudKicker · Mon Jan 16, 2017 5:43 am

In post 1498, eagerSnake wrote:CloudKicker keeps calling me scum without actually calling me scum or having any case

CloudKicker scum or Cloudkicker just playing bad game?

i dont need a case to vote you

CloudKicker · Mon Jan 16, 2017 5:44 am

@gerryboat if ure town vote the sssnake

CloudKicker · Mon Jan 16, 2017 5:46 am

Snake kinda slipd saying im scum roleblocker, if i was scum wouldnt i be the one to nk and to blame gerryboat? lolz scumslipz

CloudKicker · Mon Jan 16, 2017 5:47 am

To be honest i couldnt be bothered with this table

CloudKicker · Mon Jan 16, 2017 5:48 am

hm sssnake why am i mafia

CloudKicker · Mon Jan 16, 2017 5:49 am

Why am i mafia rber, how does the night played out and whatnot, how did you end up saying i was scum rb

CloudKicker · Mon Jan 16, 2017 5:49 am

You need one of mine, i used poed on you in the lynchpool

CloudKicker · Mon Jan 16, 2017 5:50 am

Im pretty sure you cant use poe to think im mefia

CloudKicker · Mon Jan 16, 2017 5:51 am

lol no

CloudKicker · Mon Jan 16, 2017 5:51 am

i think your pokemon level

CloudKicker · Mon Jan 16, 2017 5:53 am

elephant shouldnt be mefia when gerry flips mefia, i dont think jarjardicks is mefia and gamma has done nothing so i cant read his slut, leaves you

CloudKicker · Mon Jan 16, 2017 5:54 am

pokemon is just doing his pokemon thing, mafsiding and being thirdmafia

CloudKicker · Mon Jan 16, 2017 5:54 am

Because i can read the content you gave, content i dont personnaly like and i have a few issues with. Gamma's slut has given literal no content, im not lynching dead null sluts

CloudKicker · Mon Jan 16, 2017 5:58 am

I dont think you know what is scumclaiming and what isnt. Can you go back on those two posts where you scumtold into oblivion ?

In post 1490, eagerSnake wrote:Alright how bout this, if gerry doesn't 100% clear himself we lynch him, and if he flips scum we lynch CloudKicker

Why would i be the obvious lynch if gerryboat flips scum

In post 1503, eagerSnake wrote:@JarJar PP Nadpool Gerry when I flip green lynch the cloudkicker

he's scum roleblocker

If im scum, why would i be a roleblocker ?

CloudKicker · Mon Jan 16, 2017 5:58 am

@sssnake just answer my questions and try not to hardclaim mafia in the process

CloudKicker · Mon Jan 16, 2017 5:59 am

No, can you answer the questions ?

CloudKicker · Mon Jan 16, 2017 6:00 am

No, can you answer the questions ?

CloudKicker · Mon Jan 16, 2017 6:01 am

lol wat

CloudKicker · Mon Jan 16, 2017 6:01 am

i think we found scum bois

CloudKicker · Mon Jan 16, 2017 6:03 am

lol ali ssssnake is mefia im lynching him

CloudKicker · Mon Jan 16, 2017 6:03 am

Sssnake called me a scum roleblocker and hes saying its because he wanted to ''poke at me because i voted him for no reasons'' lolz no

CloudKicker · Mon Jan 16, 2017 6:05 am

''it was mostly a poke at you for being the one who is saying not to lynch him'' yea and the one who outed a guilty on his ass to begind with, eat rope

CloudKicker · Mon Jan 16, 2017 8:19 am

sssnake scumtold, elephant towntold, gerryboat scumtold, jarjar is nullto lean town and gamma is dead null, pokemon should be town choo choo

CloudKicker · Mon Jan 16, 2017 8:20 am

In post 1540, Alisae wrote:
In post 1496, CloudKicker wrote:VOTE: eagerSnake this is my lynch for today but if gamma comes back and do something
No. Bad Cloudie. Bad.

stop mafisiding

CloudKicker · Mon Jan 16, 2017 8:20 am

Hecalled me scum rb which is a legit slip

CloudKicker · Mon Jan 16, 2017 8:30 am

He called me a scum roleblocker. Him saying i am roleblocker is implying that i did not lie and is giving credit to my claim, so he

knows

im not lying and that i am what im saying, but he called me scum. This is a scum slip, a town calling me scum there would call not only my slot by my whole claim to be bullshit aka not claling me scum rb but just calling that my whole claim is a gambit etc. By calling me scum rb, hes saying at the same time that i am mafia and that i am town

CloudKicker · Mon Jan 16, 2017 8:31 am

Its like someone calling a cop who guilty someone else to be a ''scum cop'' over ''scum with a random guilty'' it makes no sens

CloudKicker · Mon Jan 16, 2017 8:50 am

Yes elephant is town, ssssnake scumtolderinoz

CloudKicker · Mon Jan 16, 2017 8:56 am

In post 1555, gerryoat wrote:5.) MAF PROB THEN PUSHES ON CLOUD AS MAF.

why would i be scum in the event you flip JOAT gerry you said that 3 times

CloudKicker · Mon Jan 16, 2017 8:57 am

scenario 2 is the reason why i dont want to lynch gerrycoat

CloudKicker · Mon Jan 16, 2017 8:59 am

i didnt guilty you, i fucking said i roleblocked you. If you commuted then nothing confirm me as mafia in any possible scenarios, stop saying this

CloudKicker · Mon Jan 16, 2017 9:01 am

In post 1563, gerryoat wrote:
In post 1561, CloudKicker wrote:i didnt guilty you, i fucking said i roleblocked you. If you commuted then nothing confirm me as mafia in any possible scenarios, stop saying this
I AM NOT THE ONE SAYING THIS. THEY ARE. THATS WHY THEY THINK YOU ARE MAF

then stop implying its even true, those morons are cancer and you look like youre giving their reads credits

CloudKicker · Mon Jan 16, 2017 9:15 am

ssssnakes posts has been utter crap

CloudKicker · Mon Jan 16, 2017 9:31 am

yea i dont think ure wrong, if gerry is town it leads to jar

CloudKicker · Mon Jan 16, 2017 9:31 am

considering that, i want ssssnake <333

CloudKicker · Mon Jan 16, 2017 9:44 am

@jarjarbikes please vote the sssnakes

CloudKicker · Mon Jan 16, 2017 10:06 am

In post 1577, JarJarDrinks wrote:VOTE: CloudKicker

Like seriously, you obviously scumread the slot enough to allegedly roleblock him

And then when you see that there was no kill, you want to lynch someone else?

If you were legit town RBer, U'd be SCREAMING for his lynch right now.

yea im totally scum for that, can you use your head and dont go full pokemon style

CloudKicker · Mon Jan 16, 2017 10:06 am

In post 1579, JarJarDrinks wrote:Gerry, on the off-chance ur town, consider that cloud could be scum here and is looking to line up back2back mislyches.

how could i? i cannot be scum doing this play

CloudKicker · Mon Jan 16, 2017 10:06 am

jarjarbikes vote sssnake please

CloudKicker · Mon Jan 16, 2017 10:33 am

In post 1585, JarJarDrinks wrote:
In post 1582, CloudKicker wrote:
In post 1579, JarJarDrinks wrote:Gerry, on the off-chance ur town, consider that cloud could be scum here and is looking to line up back2back mislyches.
how could i? i cannot be scum doing this play
Of course you could be. what I cant see is how your town doing this play.

your push on me is too stupid coming from scum, me outing as rb on gerry to just trade myself is not a scum strategy, can you vote sssnake ? hes mefia and even if not hes a great lynch today

CloudKicker · Mon Jan 16, 2017 10:34 am

@gerry vote ssssnake, dont make me strongarm it

CloudKicker · Mon Jan 16, 2017 11:56 am

Gerry, i disagree now lynch sssnake

CloudKicker · Mon Jan 16, 2017 11:57 am

Also im not being lynched today he can try all he wants with pokemon and sssnake, it wont work

CloudKicker · Mon Jan 16, 2017 3:59 pm

No one would even no kill, idk if thats what you meant penguin or night kill, if night kill just nvm that.

@ali this is fairly easy, gerrycoat is probably mafia in like 90%+++ scenarios and im not going to sheep the guy today but he can voice his opinion, his vote should be 100% leashd by myself or yourself, gerrycoat wanted to lynch both jarjarbikes and elephant, considering if gerrycoat is mefia he cannot bus in autoloss so i do not want those lynches today. Ssssnake scumtold, gerrycoat does not want to go back on his ssssnake read, gamma is a DED NULL and i do not want to lynch A DED NULL so ssssssssnake is the best lynch in everywolrd and scenarios, therefore i am lynching ssssssnake ali, can you just work with me and stop being paranoid after every post in the thread ? Sssssnake is a great lynch, we would als likely wont get as much informations on his slut from the gerry flip than on elephant and jarjarbikes's slut, SSSNAKE IS LIKE BEAUTIFULLY A PERFECT LYNCH

CloudKicker · Mon Jan 16, 2017 4:01 pm

@penguin and ali can you guys just use reason and play good

CloudKicker · Mon Jan 16, 2017 4:07 pm

THANK YOU I LOVE U

CloudKicker · Mon Jan 16, 2017 4:09 pm

Tomorow will go really really fast, IF IN ANY WAY SHAPE OR FORM GERRY IS NOT 100% MOD CONFIRMED YOU SHOULD VOTE FOR THEM AND NEVER UNVOTE, THIS IS THE ONLY REASON WHY WE ARE NOT LYNCHING HIM TODAY, NOT VOTING FOR THE BOAT WOULD BE ANTITOWN BECAUSE TODAY'S LYNCH IS BASED OFF GERRYS ALIGNEMENT CONFIRMATION OF TOMORROW PLEASE DO NOT YOLO-STYLE

CloudKicker · Mon Jan 16, 2017 4:16 pm

I dont think its retarded, gamma's slut is inactive for sure but i think its fun to play around a n1 kill rb and such, im enjoying it. Also depending on gerrysboat flip tomorow i will learn a lot

CloudKicker · Mon Jan 16, 2017 4:17 pm

But some sluts cant get a read str8, looking at pokemon. Im pretty sure this game didnt out a single working or credible read

CloudKicker · Mon Jan 16, 2017 4:32 pm

noted

CloudKicker · Mon Jan 16, 2017 4:47 pm

gerryboat explain me why he called me a scumrb

CloudKicker · Mon Jan 16, 2017 4:48 pm

also his vote on me is antitown af, his early game d1 was also bad

CloudKicker · Tue Jan 17, 2017 12:48 am

Mudkip, can you explain me what would be the scumgain of my claim ? what would be the scenario where as mafia i would play the day how i played, please give try to make a somewhat decent scenarios about it and then we can talk

CloudKicker · Tue Jan 17, 2017 12:49 am

the resistance for a sssnake lynch is real too

CloudKicker · Tue Jan 17, 2017 12:51 am

In post 1619, gerryoat wrote:
In post 1616, CloudKicker wrote:gerryboat explain me why he called me a scumrb
still think his day 1 was good. just cause someone calls you scum doesnt mean they are mafia, you should know that

This is 100% not what i what about i was asking you, this is an obvious scum answer gerryboat, i was asking why would he call me a mafia roleblocker over just mafia and you made no comments about it.

@mudkip : about elephant, he towntold. He also should be town if gerry flips scum tomorow hence hes a terrible lynch

CloudKicker · Tue Jan 17, 2017 7:54 am

zz maybe ssnakes just bad

CloudKicker · Tue Jan 17, 2017 7:55 am

also its not wifom, my whole play does not ever in any way can be wrote under mafia play, not ever mafia does no kill to random guilty and it so happens to be on joat with the commuter

CloudKicker · Tue Jan 17, 2017 7:57 am

UNVOTE:

CloudKicker · Tue Jan 17, 2017 7:58 am

In post 1662, eagerSnake wrote:
In post 1642, Nadpool wrote:Snakey, Nadpool wants to know why you said he was mafia rb and not just mafia.

Nadpool agrees that Cloud's case on snakey is not very good.
Because scum RB is not impossible, in fact it's common, and a scum RB might claim town RB.

Duhhhh

nah terrible ass reason

CloudKicker · Tue Jan 17, 2017 8:00 am

id still lynch him today beucase i have other reason to not want to get gamma either

CloudKicker · Tue Jan 17, 2017 8:00 am

gerry you should trust my reads more

CloudKicker · Tue Jan 17, 2017 8:01 am

if you were in my shoes i doubt youd let me live the night

CloudKicker · Tue Jan 17, 2017 8:03 am

i dont think jar is mefia, and i dont want an elephant lynch, can we my actual lynch pool is gerry/sssnake/gamma

CloudKicker · Tue Jan 17, 2017 8:18 am

In post 1678, JarJarDrinks wrote:
In post 1676, CloudKicker wrote:i dont think jar is mefia, and i dont want an elephant lynch, can we my actual lynch pool is gerry/sssnake/gamma
Wait gerry is in UR lynch pool for today?!?!?

if it ever to comes to it, i prefer a gerryboat lynch where everyone can rally up than to fuck a wagon close to deadline etc gerry lynch is my panic button

CloudKicker · Tue Jan 17, 2017 8:19 am

In post 1681, eagerSnake wrote:
In post 1680, gerryoat wrote:
In post 1674, PenguinPower wrote:Let me rephrase: What makes it scummy vs. bad town.
POE
If you can tell me the difference between scummy and bad town I'll have CloudKicker lynched immediately

go in the corner with mudkip playing with legos

CloudKicker · Tue Jan 17, 2017 8:19 am

ssssnake stop scumtelling as town if you dont want town to scumread you

CloudKicker · Tue Jan 17, 2017 8:20 am

Also the truth is that i couldnt care less about being lynched, in the even it happened everyone in this table whos green would deserve to lose

CloudKicker · Tue Jan 17, 2017 8:21 am

such a slip you caught me

CloudKicker · Tue Jan 17, 2017 8:22 am

i dont even remember the last time i actually scumslipd in any game ever

CloudKicker · Tue Jan 17, 2017 8:23 am

@sssssnake im appealing to your alignement since you are claiming we have the same win con :

Do you understand why elephant is a bad lynch ?
Do you really want to flip a null slut that is gamma ?
What do you think of gerry!scum twerking on your leg?

CloudKicker · Tue Jan 17, 2017 8:24 am

sssssnake you mightve did scumslip, hindsight will give me reason or not, in the meantime ill assume youre a pokemon too and work from there

CloudKicker · Tue Jan 17, 2017 8:29 am

On my homesite im always blind sheeped, its hard to get this here

CloudKicker · Tue Jan 17, 2017 8:29 am

CloudKicker · Tue Jan 17, 2017 8:31 am

The more town meta when i own mafia i can get, the more ill eventually get sheeped everygame

CloudKicker · Tue Jan 17, 2017 8:37 am

They should tho <3

CloudKicker · Tue Jan 17, 2017 9:09 am

In post 1709, gerryoat wrote:Cloud i dont get how you can say you dont want my lynch today and put me in your lynch pool, that's weird af. especially when you're telling me to sheep you and trust your reads

another scumpost, i explained why and you should understand why as town!gerryboat

CloudKicker · Tue Jan 17, 2017 9:10 am

In post 1712, eagerSnake wrote:Yeah well I just know that I wouldn't be good enough as scum to post the way I am here. And people that know me will know that. I'm awkward af poster as scum and do anything I can to avoid posting and interaction. Usually I single people out and completely ignore everyone else lol. /WIFOM

But yeah obviously that's WIFOM since I'm talking about my own scumplay so I'll put in a tag for clarity

hey gratz i think you towntold

CloudKicker · Tue Jan 17, 2017 9:11 am

VOTE: jarjar

CloudKicker · Tue Jan 17, 2017 9:15 am

LOL I KNOW JAR BUT WE HAVE TO LYNCH SOMEONE, i dont mind getting gamma but its just a stupid lynch

CloudKicker · Tue Jan 17, 2017 9:15 am

its nots cumclaiming, if i was scum i would push on my fake guilty cmon, why is everyone so terrbile

CloudKicker · Tue Jan 17, 2017 9:15 am

VOTE: gamma w/e

CloudKicker · Tue Jan 17, 2017 9:16 am

this is a townflip

CloudKicker · Tue Jan 17, 2017 9:18 am

ssssnake/jarjar/gamma is 1-2
gerry/elephant is 0-1

i outed it serveral time

CloudKicker · Tue Jan 17, 2017 9:18 am

also im forgeting pokemon hm

CloudKicker · Tue Jan 17, 2017 9:19 am

@ali its hard for me to lead cause bad town is calling me scum so mafia can blend in and discredit everything i say and having my vote over my head all the time, i cannot lead atm

CloudKicker · Tue Jan 17, 2017 9:23 am

Explain how can you even be so sure gamma is maf ? hes null

CloudKicker · Tue Jan 17, 2017 9:27 am

In post 1731, gerryoat wrote:
In post 1676, CloudKicker wrote:
i dont think jar is mefia
, and i dont want an elephant lynch, can we my actual lynch pool is gerry/sssnake/gamma

In post 1715, CloudKicker wrote:VOTE: jarjar

More votes on jar tho lol

dude im trying to play around you being mafia, not easy

CloudKicker · Tue Jan 17, 2017 9:28 am

In post 1734, JarJarDrinks wrote:Like you're implying that eager is "sure gamma is maf". But he's just questioning how you can be "sure gamma is town"

you didnt call him out for him misreping me, i never said i was so sure he can be town, i said gamma would be a townflip. Did he ask me if i was sure about that read? i just said that out of gut and posturizing

CloudKicker · Tue Jan 17, 2017 9:30 am

jarjar and sssnake both didnt out a single read on ppl outside gerry that should be lynched, i am the only one trying to get a good lynch while playing around the gerry flip and im being fosed for chaning my mind, everyones attention is on my play and im just trying to find the best possbile course of action, i could just coast and let ali lead on whoever

CloudKicker · Tue Jan 17, 2017 9:31 am

CloudKicker · Tue Jan 17, 2017 9:32 am

im baffled

CloudKicker · Tue Jan 17, 2017 9:32 am

ali pick a name

CloudKicker · Tue Jan 17, 2017 9:33 am

In post 1739, PenguinPower wrote:I'm cool with lynching CK.

pokemon tier

CloudKicker · Tue Jan 17, 2017 9:34 am

Im not even going to fight this, tis is probably one of the more retarded play i have seen in my mafia career

CloudKicker · Tue Jan 17, 2017 9:36 am

In post 1747, gerryoat wrote:
In post 1739, PenguinPower wrote:I'm cool with lynching CK.
Why the change?

hes a pokemon, also dont try to put fake resistance

CloudKicker · Tue Jan 17, 2017 9:39 am

Gerry, i dont buy it sorry. Trusting you for 1 day and playing around your slot is not the same thing as thinking you are town

CloudKicker · Tue Jan 17, 2017 9:39 am

In post 1751, PenguinPower wrote:
In post 1747, gerryoat wrote:Why the change?
Pick a reason: Annoying post style. Tons of ATE, little logic. Distracting from the game. I do well when I sheep eager. Oh, and his recent vote hopping just to get a lynch even though we still have 11 days and a replacement incoming.

pokemon outing 10 nai reasons and saying sheeping another pokemon is good

CloudKicker · Tue Jan 17, 2017 9:40 am

@

Mod can we get a vc please ?

CloudKicker · Tue Jan 17, 2017 9:42 am

In post 1757, JarJarDrinks wrote:
In post 1746, CloudKicker wrote:Im not even going to fight this, tis is probably one of the more retarded play i have seen in my mafia career
This is such bullshit ATE. Like you act like you're not OK w/ a gamma lynch who @ best is null. But ur not gonna fight ur own lynch?

i dont care, you are green and you think this is scumplay? You deserve to lose and to learn

CloudKicker · Tue Jan 17, 2017 9:42 am

About the scumplay im not tlaking about my content, im talking about my claim

CloudKicker · Tue Jan 17, 2017 9:43 am

In post 1760, PenguinPower wrote:
In post 1753, CloudKicker wrote:pokemon outing 10 nai reasons and saying sheeping another pokemon is good
pokemon not understanding my point.

lmao dont you call me pokemon

CloudKicker · Tue Jan 17, 2017 9:46 am

Who cares, i claimed pr with a guilty and you have been discrediting my claim depending on the tune of the town, etiher going for a 100% confirmed gerry lynch and fighting for it and to vote me

CloudKicker · Tue Jan 17, 2017 9:46 am

i think jar is the scum that wasnt on garmr wagon, imo mafia is 2/3 [jar/gerry/gamma]

CloudKicker · Tue Jan 17, 2017 9:48 am

I didnt call you green, i said

In post 1758, CloudKicker wrote:
In post 1757, JarJarDrinks wrote:
In post 1746, CloudKicker wrote:Im not even going to fight this, tis is probably one of the more retarded play i have seen in my mafia career
This is such bullshit ATE. Like you act like you're not OK w/ a gamma lynch who @ best is null. But ur not gonna fight ur own lynch?

i dont care, you are green and you think this is scumplay?
You deserve to lose and to learn

Theres an ''?'' implying hypothetical, l2read

CloudKicker · Tue Jan 17, 2017 9:50 am

Yet youre voting me, arent you sherlock holmes ? I dont think you can lynch gerry by voting cloudkicker

CloudKicker · Tue Jan 17, 2017 9:54 am

In post 1773, PenguinPower wrote:
In post 1768, CloudKicker wrote:Theres an ''?'' implying hypothetical, l2read
pokemon needs to learn grammatical rules.

not more grammatical rules than just me who dont care to edit all my typos

CloudKicker · Tue Jan 17, 2017 9:55 am

VOTE: jar

CloudKicker · Tue Jan 17, 2017 9:55 am

another townflip prob but w/e ahahhahaa

CloudKicker · Tue Jan 17, 2017 10:06 am

no one is saying a thing on anyone else, im the only one trying to do anything atm so please give me a better vote

CloudKicker · Tue Jan 17, 2017 10:42 am

Stop giving me attention, i outed several time i didnt want to get jar because of this, gimme a break

CloudKicker · Tue Jan 17, 2017 10:43 am

UNVOTE: penguin try to find mefia

CloudKicker · Tue Jan 17, 2017 11:15 am

That claim was when i was thinking about milking my guilty on him and checking for rxns

CloudKicker · Tue Jan 17, 2017 11:18 am

In post 1786, PenguinPower wrote:Based on my most recent game with him....bad game/bad town.

I hate this claim, though.

In post 949, CloudKicker wrote:
In post 915, gerryoat wrote:
OK. SINCE YOU'RE CONVINCED I WAS ROLEBLOCKED. IF ANYONE CLAIMS RBER ON ME, I WILL ACCEPT A LYNCH. IF THERE IS NO ROLEBLOCKER IN THIS GAME, YOU HAVE TO ACCEPT THAT YOU'RE WRONG AND BEING SHIT.
I claim rber on you hehe

Now that the game finished, im not a bad town. I called you town last game, you were, i called you town this game, you are, i called gramr town, he was, i called gerry mefia, he 90% is, i called sssnake mefia and im going back on my reads

CloudKicker · Tue Jan 17, 2017 11:19 am

I also called ali town, he is

CloudKicker · Tue Jan 17, 2017 11:24 am

In post 530, CloudKicker wrote:i hate to say it but penguin is prob town

In post 520, CloudKicker wrote:Ftr i tr ali over sssnake

In post 706, CloudKicker wrote:the honest to truth reality is that gerry boat should be mafia from heavy poe

In post 703, CloudKicker wrote:My heardest trs are ali and the x's guy

In post 715, CloudKicker wrote:alis town, look elsewhere

In post 714, Garmr wrote:
In post 700, Alisae wrote:1. Mislynches. 2. You didn't scumtell and I never said it was a scumtell, I just hate when people do that. 3. not answer this question cuz I don't want to get banned. 4. To make it seem like they aren't scum or to attempt to prove that they are town.
1.mislynches who's mislynch?
2.then why present it as a case.
3.I'm nothing like metal sonic. Are you a metal alt
4.why would I need to do that if you are town reading me?

In post 717, CloudKicker wrote:i would never defend a lynchbait slot that is alisea as scum, ftr

In post 734, CloudKicker wrote:
In post 729, Alisae wrote:The question is, do you trust me and my reads?
Honestly, i might trust your slot alignement but i wont trust your reads, i will trust your reactions tho. I am the kind of town player to strongarm lynches from the clear because even tho they are confirmed town, they still cant find mefia so this is nothing personnal

In post 845, CloudKicker wrote:Also this is a very bad d1 lynch, not proud of this table

In post 849, CloudKicker wrote:Ali, it wont flip scum

In post 842, CloudKicker wrote:
In post 778, Garmr wrote:why don't you just ask to modkill nadpool unless he starts talking that way you don't have to waste a vote.

In post 781, gerryoat wrote:
In post 778, Garmr wrote:why don't you just ask to modkill nadpool unless he starts talking that way you don't have to waste a vote.
i already asked for a replacement. also dont like this post.

gamr and nadpool slots prob not teamed because of this post as well. I think one might be maf. And right now i'm leaning gamr over nadpool. I still want penguin as i think he is one of their buddy
i was going to say that gramr was obv town for the modkill phrase

In post 855, CloudKicker wrote:Garmr wont flip scum 100% id bet money

In post 858, CloudKicker wrote:This is this kind of reasons why i dont tr gerry this game, i dont think he would miss to tr garmr this game

CloudKicker · Tue Jan 17, 2017 11:27 am

In post 1790, PenguinPower wrote:
In post 1788, CloudKicker wrote:Now that the game finished, im not a bad town. I called you town last game, you were, i called you town this game, you are, i called gramr town, he was, i called gerry mefia, he 90% is, i called sssnake mefia and im going back on my reads
But, you don't realize that you need to work
with
your other town reads. You do nothing to work with others, except force feed them reads and call them names when they disagree. Your reads in our finished game were as good and bad as others in that game, not significantly better. I don't see why your unflipped reads would be any better/worse. Your playstyle hurt town in our finished game, and it's doing so here as well. Lose the arrogance.

that game i was 2/3-4 kinda the moment i replaced in. I wanted to lynch zach but we ended up lynching the town in the 2/3 because of deadline, then i defended you and the other town for most of my days, all 3 towns wanted me dead thats you, alg and sens when i was appealing to you 2 mostly (pp and alg) about why would you even try to lynch me etc. My playstyle maybe hurts town, i still wins my game

CloudKicker · Tue Jan 17, 2017 11:34 am

No one even near tried to explain what a scum play would be to:

I crumbed a odd night visitor in the 70th posts
Fake fos gerry d1 as to give my claim credit for the next day
Make a no kill gambit on an odd night, meaning that i am essentially giving town a ml (which would be pokemon tier level of play)
I am claiming roleblocker on someone as to lynch them
End up defending the idea to try to lynch outside the VERY reason why would i make my claim (to get a ml)

Considerations to take :
This is literraly d2, i would have 0 incitative to trade myself 1-1 with a town d2.
Why would i just fake an investigative role and make a kill ? That would i could trade myself 1-1 with town (like in the other scenarios) but then i would still get a night kill out of it, which would make the town 8 people over 9, 9 giving the town a ml.

-So you guys are claiming that BY DEFINITION : i would make a no-kill gambit to trade myself with a town but in the process to make that very same gambit, i am giving town a ml by no-killing, which would mean that essentially, i would scumclaim for no reason.

Scenario 1 im mafia
-no kill gambit makes it to 9 people, we lynch gerry, mafia kill, town lynch me, mafia kill. -> 5 way 1 mafia, town has 1 ml

scenario 2 im mafia and im not a pokemon
-i kill in the night makes it to 8 people, i fake an investigative on gerry, we lynch gerry, mafia kill, town lynch me, mafia kill -> 4 way with 1 mafia, town has 0 mls its mylo

THIS IS THE REASON WHY ITS IMPOSSIBLE THAT I AM MAFIA

CloudKicker · Tue Jan 17, 2017 11:36 am

In post 1794, CloudKicker wrote:So you guys are claiming that BY DEFINITION : i would make a no-kill gambit to trade myself with a town but in the process to make that very same gambit, i am giving town a ml by no-killing, which would mean that essentially, i would scumclaim for no reason.

Scenario 1 im mafia
-no kill gambit makes it to 9 people, we lynch gerry, mafia kill, town lynch me, mafia kill. -> 5 way 1 mafia, town has 1 ml

scenario 2 im mafia and im not a pokemon
-i kill in the night makes it to 8 people, i fake an investigative on gerry, we lynch gerry, mafia kill, town lynch me, mafia kill -> 4 way with 1 mafia, town has 0 mls its mylo

TL;DR for pokemons

CloudKicker · Tue Jan 17, 2017 11:37 am

Gerry IS mafia and i owned his ass but i am kind enough to LET HIM HAVE ONE NIGHT and this town thinks im mafia for it

CloudKicker · Tue Jan 17, 2017 11:38 am

The ml that i would gain by fake-guiltying gerryboat would be lost when my partner would have to face a 5 way over a 4 way

CloudKicker · Tue Jan 17, 2017 11:39 am

In post 1797, PenguinPower wrote:Which why I'm saying you're bad town, not mafia. Moving on.

@mod, you don't have CK in your VC. He's not voting

not bad town, i owned mafia n1 and you call me bad town when town wants to lynch me

CloudKicker · Tue Jan 17, 2017 11:43 am

Mods be like : that CK guy is spot on about his reads but hes so toxic hes getting fosed for it

CloudKicker · Tue Jan 17, 2017 11:47 am

In post 1802, PenguinPower wrote:
In post 1801, CloudKicker wrote:so toxic hes getting fosed for it
So fix this and be awesome.

not mutually exclusive, im awesome and toxic

CloudKicker · Tue Jan 17, 2017 11:49 am

In post 1805, eagerSnake wrote:
In post 1804, CloudKicker wrote:
In post 1802, PenguinPower wrote:
In post 1801, CloudKicker wrote:so toxic hes getting fosed for it
So fix this and be awesome.
not mutually exclusive, im awesome and toxic
That's an oxymoron. Like saying your town and mafia

Thats you being an pokemoron, toxic is nai

CloudKicker · Tue Jan 17, 2017 11:52 am

I call you whoosh

CloudKicker · Tue Jan 17, 2017 11:52 am

i think pokemoron is my new fav term

CloudKicker · Tue Jan 17, 2017 12:25 pm

In post 1812, gerryoat wrote:
In post 1796, CloudKicker wrote:Gerry IS mafia and i owned his ass but i am kind enough to LET HIM HAVE ONE NIGHT and this town thinks im mafia for it
lol it's funny cause you're wrong

I will sincerely best really surprised in the event you flip town, but ill thanks myself for letting you one night

CloudKicker · Tue Jan 17, 2017 12:59 pm

I have a date tonight, do well my lils pokemons

CloudKicker · Tue Jan 17, 2017 6:44 pm

Yes, because i kick ass

CloudKicker · Wed Jan 18, 2017 2:46 am

In post 1836, JarJarDrinks wrote:UNVOTE:

Maybe I was being stupid voting cloud. Gerry is most likely scum and
the chance that they're both scum together is virtually impossible.

Gonna catch up and will try to get a reads list out today.

duh

CloudKicker · Wed Jan 18, 2017 2:49 am

In post 1830, XnadrojX wrote:Right now Gamma is dead, Gerry is the only guy who understands you, Ali just sheep's the biggest wagon, eagerSnake is being wagoned on for scumreading you, JarJarDrinks is getting scumread by association, nadpool got a townread for townreading CloudKicker and I'm being used as a measure of stupidity. Just putting it up there that this game is basically treating CloudKicker like a god.

Sssnake did scumtell, i addressed it now we somewhat good, jar has been voting me and gerry while flipflopping outing reads that did not match his actions (another scumtell), elephant has been outing good logic and protown stuff since the beginning of the day and "I'm being used as a measure of stupidity" is just plain fucking hilarious

CloudKicker · Wed Jan 18, 2017 2:51 am

I cannot by mafia by virtue of my claim and the no kill, it would be etremely suboptimal and mafia has no point to do it. Im not talking about a risky gambit, im talking about so suboptimal it would literraly mean that im giving town a ml, mafia does not open D2 giving town a ml for keks and giggles

CloudKicker · Wed Jan 18, 2017 2:52 am

Heres where youre wrong jar, you misread me and you ignored the facts of my claim where i cant be mafia

CloudKicker · Wed Jan 18, 2017 2:53 am

@jar you being called a good player yet having thoses reads is really incriminating

CloudKicker · Wed Jan 18, 2017 2:59 am

I cannot be mafia in any world shape or form if you followed CK logic 101, i can re-explain to you but you have one shot to understand or i might call you pokemon too

CloudKicker · Wed Jan 18, 2017 3:01 am

In post 1852, JarJarDrinks wrote:
In post 1850, CloudKicker wrote:@jar you being called a good player yet having thoses reads is really incriminating

And you're supposed to be a good player but your play yesterday was anything but. I mean, you were voting someone that you admitted couldn't be scum w/ someone who is close to confirmed scum to you.

I @ least admitted I was probably dumb in voting for you.

IVE BEEN TRYING ALL DAY TO GET A CONCORDING LYNCH but everything ive done, ive been criticised and ive been the only one to try to get a lynch while trying to deal with a crowd of mudkips on my ass, i explained allllllll of my votes and why i didnt want elephant and you and then you sucmtold etc what can i fucking say

CloudKicker · Wed Jan 18, 2017 3:02 am

In post 1851, JarJarDrinks wrote:
In post 1849, CloudKicker wrote:Heres where youre wrong jar, you misread me and you ignored the facts of my claim where i cant be mafia
U can be mafia if Gerry isn't.

I can imagine a scenario where ur mafia RBer and blocked Gerry and the kill was stopped by some other means and you immediately tried to pin it on the guy u blocked.

But I think it's a pretty unlikely scenario. Hence my unvote.

That would be essentialy scumclaiming, that does not explain why i would try to play around the gerry lynch either, not even a likely scenarios by any means and if you use occams razor then you would discard it

CloudKicker · Wed Jan 18, 2017 3:04 am

Also to everyones knowledge, no one gave another possible plausible explanations about the no-kill -> no bp/doc claim or something like that, the only explanation given was commuter and from the guy i rbed, curious right?

CloudKicker · Wed Jan 18, 2017 3:06 am

In post 1849, CloudKicker wrote:Heres where youre wrong jar, you misread me and you ignored the facts of my claim where i cant be mafia

re-back at ya, no way im not scumreading anyone not a pokemon discarding the really basic easy pz logic that my claim cannot come from mafia, it makes literraly no damn fucking sens AND EVEN if it did, it would mean i gave town a ml so following my claim logic' and giving me the BOTD considering that my gambit would give ml DOES NOT HURT TOWN AT ALL