Mini Normal 1861: Musical Mafia (TOWN WIN)
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culted Mafia Scum
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Naomi-Tan Mafia Scum
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massive Mafia Scum
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Yeah that won't actually do anything.
It is, however, tricky to rock a rhyme that's right on time."1AM .. not a good time to think I started mixing massive and mathcam" - Totem, DP8
"unvote mlaker; vote massive; It's like MeMe/mneme and Corsato/Cadmium" - Dragon Phoenix, Newbie 38
PLEASE NOTE: I actively avoid being online on weekends! Don't replace me just because of this!-
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I Am Innocent Jack of All Trades
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Well I already PM'd the mod when the N2 ended and there was a delay, so I'll leave it to one of you to PM him about the hammer.ShowTown 21-21-1
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I Am Innocent Jack of All Trades
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Sorry make that night 3...don't even have a clue what day we are on
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I Am Innocent Jack of All Trades
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Kairal Goon
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I Am Innocent Jack of All Trades
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I'm really not upset, at least not at the player list. I would expect a mod to check in at least daily, or if not able to, have a true backup mod who has the ability to progress the game.ShowTown 21-21-1
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mhsmith0 Balancing Act
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There has been a lynch, please stop postingShowhttp://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=Mhsmith0
Conq: you, sir, are great at being town.
BATMAN: Only jugg was the only one we didn’t scum read at least not me
Quick: There is little to no chance this slot is Power-Wolfing.
SR: I want to give him a day
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Gamma Emerald AnySurvivorAny
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Gamma Emerald AnySurvivorAny
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I Am Innocent Jack of All Trades
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Naomi-Tan Mafia Scum
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I Am Innocent Jack of All Trades
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Well massive was just as paranoid, so no worries. The key is looking at the facts, and noting that Day 3 was the most critical day in this game because prior to the massive claim, AJ and culted had little suspicion. The claim and wagons on these players vs. counter wagons on other players is very telling.In post 1962, Naomi-Tan wrote:Well then I guess I really was being paranoid..ShowTown 21-21-1
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Kairal Goon
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Kairal Goon
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Kairal Goon
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The following is a non-exhaustive list of reasons, in largely chronological order, for why I’m voting Flubber.
1) Day 1 and 2 he spent a significant amount of his time pushing a Jin case along with culted. They both insisted he was scummy but never provided any real reason.
2) On Day 3 despite Flubber hovering near the top of most of town’s scum reads, culted is extremely protective. We know now that culted was scum so this is a pretty large red flag.
3) My voting analysis indicated that AJ and Flubber were very likely scum partners- they were consistently opposed on most votes and major arguments
4) When AJ saw this argument he refused to vote for Flubber (despite ostensibly scum reading him) instead moving his vote to me- more protection for Flubber from a confirmed scum
5) Having been caught out by never agreeing the most likely course of action for a scum team is to throw off the pattern by immediately breaking it- in this case that means all voting for the same person. Flubber voted for me along with the two confirmed scum
6) For that matter the vote on me by Flubber was almost entirely unexplained. In the 15 days we had to choose a vote target and justify it Flubber decided on me with one line.
7) Day 3 got very close to a no lynch. 6 players made sure they were available during the last few days before deadline in order to ensure a lynch. Flubber and the two confirmed scum were all absent because they didn’t need a lynch
8) Io, BV and I all called Flubber as the most likely partner on a scum team with AJ and culted and we did so before there were any flips. I can’t prove that I’m town but the other two are confirmed at least.
9) I mentioned before that once a pattern is pointed out scum will try to change it up. On Day 4 both culted and Flubber vote for each other in their first posts – a clear reaction to culted being caught out for protecting Flubber on Day 3.-
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Gamma Emerald AnySurvivorAny
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Vote Count 5.01
0 - Dierfire:
0 - Kairal:
0 - Flubbernugget: Kairal
0 - I Am Innocent:
0 - Naomi-Tan:
0 -No Lynch:
Not voting: Dierfire, Flubbernugget, I Am Innocent, Naomi-Tan
With 5 alive it takes 3 to lynch.
Deadline is
<Embrace The Void>
“A flipped coin doesn't always land heads or tails. Sometimes it may never land at all...”-
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I Am Innocent Jack of All Trades
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Here, just still waiting for this. Did check and neither player is posting elsewhere since this thread open, so I'll just be patient.In post 1961, I Am Innocent wrote:Flubber, Dier, what say you?ShowTown 21-21-1
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Naomi-Tan Mafia Scum
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I Am Innocent Jack of All Trades
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Please nobody else vote. I want some discussion before this day ends from Dier and Flubber. Esp Dier since Flubber looks like the lynch candidate.ShowTown 21-21-1
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Flubbernugget Survivor
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1) what exactly was your town case on jin?
2) why is this protecting scum instead of a wk? Culted was attracting too much suspicion to make defending a scum buddy a reasonable play
3) This is very blatantly a game with poor town play. Massive cost town a lot of decent interactions by playing with so suspiciously, you wasted about 5 pages crying to a scum slot, the pacing of the game is apathetic drivel, so saying anything along the lines of "town doesn't play this poorly" and only pointing to one person is a shit argument and in addition...
4)...you just accused me of being scum for contradicting scum and are now accusing me of being scum for voting with them.
5) scum was taking your points head on (particularly Aj who's wagon was extremely last minute) so the pressure you're seeing only exists within your own ego/confirmation bias
6) it's almost like my top two scum reads ended up being confirmed town so I had to regain my footing and we were to far in the game to try and re read
7) @mod if I send you a link to the picture of my head injury can you determine if it's an obscene post?
8) this proves their reads were genuine but doesn't mean they're any better than guesses (particularly from io)
9) I can't speak to why culted voted for me but from wk to vote deserves a vote of itself and I stand by that-
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Flubbernugget Survivor
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Kairal Goon
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I Am Innocent Jack of All Trades
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I just want this reiterated in the off chance flubber is hammered before I get to post again.In post 1722, I Am Innocent wrote:
Look at this list BV. Doesn't this list line up perfectly for scum team (dier, AJ, and culted).In post 1087, Dierfire wrote:
I'd say massive, Flubbernugget, and...MiniDeathStar, maybe? The full list would look like this:In post 1079, I Am Innocent wrote:Dierfire, top 3 scum reads please?
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Aj The Epic, I Am Innocent, CloudKicker* (need to follow through on reading Shadow_step more carefully as discussed with Aj The Epic)
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Kairal, culted, MiniDeathStar
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Flubbernugget, massive
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MAFIA
I can flesh those out more later, but in brief: I think that 1025 from massive indicates a conclusion that was formed before the evidence (that post questions Kairal but includes a vote for Flubbernugget, and I don't see a reason why the argument doesn't apply to MiniDeathStar).
I'll have a much more thorough response within 48 hours.
I don't want this forgotten if culted and AJ do flip scum.ShowTown 21-21-1
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