Weird. I'm trying to figure out how I missed it.In post 3599, Human Sequencer wrote:@uzi I did get back to youIn post 767, Human Sequencer wrote:79
This isn't a scumread I think is particularly likely to come from scum. It reads more like townIrcher coming up with a bit of a stretchy scumread than scumIrcher doing the same.
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Same. Reads far more like townIrcher going down the wrong track, as opposed to scumIrcher trying to start a wagon or something. Based on an understanding of Ircher's personality (I hesitate to use the word 'Meta' again, lmao), I read his tunnel on Debi genuine.
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Ircher picks up on the same thing I did 18 pages later. His logic is valid, and this incriminating Wraith is something I can (and did) absolutely get behind. If Wraith flips scum, Ircher is likely town, and Wraith is one of my higher scumreads atm.
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Ircher wants to hear Dunn's opinion on Debi's slot. Town motivation is understanding Dunn's read on Debi for two reasons
1. Try and sort Dunn
2. Try and sort Debi
Ircher takes the points of other players' on board while formulating his reads, and the only scum motivation is 'Trying to look like town' and 'Understanding Dunn's perspective to manipulate him better'. I don't see the latter coming from scumIrcher at all, and I don't think this is the way scumIrcher would go about the former.
Worth noting Dunn never elaborated (not that that necessarily incriminates Dunn) and that Ircher never pushed him for it.
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I really doubt scumIrcher would bother to mention this, unless Creature/Ircher is a scumteam and Ircher was interested in using this particular post for towncredit later, and I really highly doubt that's the kind of thing Ircher would do.
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Reads genuine. He believes in his conviction, and does some minimal backpedaling, admitting that perhaps he was a little forefront with it, but still believes in it logically, which is a good sign. The logic is sound, and I doubt scumIrcher would do his half-backpedal without going the whole way and admitting that he was wrong to begin with.
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Ircher again proving that he's interested in how other people read his scumreads. Supports his questioning earlier w/ Dunn.
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Same.
At this point, I'm pretty convinced Ircher is town. Does anybody else wanna point me to any posts they find particularly incriminating they made? Uzi in particular. I hope my logic was written well enough for you to understand.
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I don't agree with your take on his 79. I believed the history Gin said he had with Pine and at the time I didn't see a reason for him to go out of his way to explain his RVS vote. Wanting a justified vote is NAI and the way he points it out read like he was trying to plant doubt early on.
I already expressed my dislike for his push on Debi but to reiterate, it ultimately read like a poorly thought out attempt to go at LHF. Wraith's vote was just idiotic but I didn't get any scum intent from it. Just someone who skimmed and believed they got the general idea of what Debi was talking about and didn't agree with it.
204 is fair.
Not sure what to make of 211 but I don't see it as AI. How did your town read solidify or grew from that post?
His backpedaling on the Debi push doesn't do it anything for me other than just describe a bit why I felt the push was bad. I just don't see how he could think the way Debi came to her conclusions on the setup lead him to believe she's scum.
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What do you make of his reaction test when rb claimed IO, his vote on Titus when there was some talk of her meta, and his no lynch vote at the end of D1?
