Mini 1869- camn's revenge GAME OVER!

[TheRealGin-N-Tonic]

If you don't know, you don't vote.

[mastina]

HOW IN ALL OF FUCK AM I AT L-3?

The mastina wagon morphed into the Gin wagon.

No, seriously. BTD6 switched; drealmerz switched. SirCakez and Vaxkiller are on Fate instead of you, but you get the point.

At this stage, I'd say that Secret Agent Jin is almost definitely scum; the sudden surge of a wagon onto you is scummy-as-fuck when you've been the player towning it up second only to me in how much you've towned it up.

In Jin/BTD6/drealmerz, there's one scum in the form of Jin, but probably a second scum in the form of one of BTD6/drealmerz. (But not the other.)

That leaves the third scum as one of Aristophanes/Aeronaut/Monokuma. Monokuma's not voting, which is bad; Aeronaut is on a vanity vote, which is bad; Aristophanes hasn't budged from the Fate wagon, which is bad.

I'd rank the order of scum, most to least, as about:
Secret Agent Jin
BTD6_maker (exempt if...)
drealmerz (exempt if BTD6^)
Aristophanes
Monokuma
Aeronaut

But this is subject to change. (In particular, BTD6/drealmerz.)

[TheRealGin-N-Tonic]

post 1544 is literally drealz only saving grace

[Prism]

Mine was still just to prompt more from you and wasn't serious at all. It's just chilling there now until I get home and can actually ISO people.

[drealmerz7]

I know it's shocking to you

but not everyone always explains themselves always

you have to deal with it

[Nachomamma8]

Mastin, Gin, do you two have a little time on your hands?

[TheRealGin-N-Tonic]

Mine was still just to prompt more from you and wasn't serious at all. It's just chilling there now until I get home and can actually ISO people.

I know you're the town on my wagon, you're chill


Nacho, I was going to play minecraft as I recently bought it but I can move that to another night and you can have up to 5-8 hours of my time if ya want.

[TheRealGin-N-Tonic]

This game has seriously soaked up so much of my activity lol Already burned through 20 pages of notebook paper lmao

[Nachomamma8]

This game has seriously soaked up so much of my activity lol Already burned through 20 pages of notebook paper lmao

please oh god don't talk about notebook paper

[Nachomamma8]

but yes, I would be deeply appreciative if you could set some time aside to get some work done right about now; am hoping Prism can maybe get here later to join us in emanating some good juicy town energy.

[Prism]

Brother I've got some bad news for you called "I haven't slept in 2 days" but I'll see what's in the tank.

[TheRealGin-N-Tonic]

Right now I'm looking at an Ari, BTD6, dreal scumbloc.

I know Pine knows I know what we know we like to do and it's to fuck with Vote Count Analysis. No matter what Pine says, I don't doubt that the scum team is in full bloc mode or completely on different wagons per member. I'll report back what I find about the current bloc and thoughts.

Also i'm happy with a {Mastin, Nacho, Gin, Prism} townbloc and working from there.

[mastina]

You know what I honestly am beginning to feel like?
I'm feeling like this is a case of the scum having gotten complacent: they started off strong. They started off with nobody having a fucking clue who they were. They started off without any real, tangible suspicion on them. Quite the opposite, they were being written off, even townread. And town players were being wagoned, left and right. Town were being pushed, and scum were not.

...And then, at some point, something happened. Something changed. Something caused the status quo to be disrupted.
And now the scum are at serious risk of being caught, because town became town to each other whereas scum who were doing nothing but being lurksacks are now discovering that they made a horrible, horrible mistake.

If this were the case, then I'd call drealmerz as scum.
BTD6 may, or may not, be scum.
Secret Agent Jin would be scum. (Jin went six days without posting--while Jin was V/LA, that was still beyond what would normally be acceptable, unless Jin were posting elsewhere......)
Depending on BTD6_maker, there may or may not be scum in the bottom three.

But I really do feel like this is a case of scum having been in a good position, and suddenly not so much anymore.
Fate's town. I am town. Nacho's town. Prism's town. SirCakez is town. TheRealGin-N-Tonic is town. Vaxkiller is town.

That's 7/13 players town.
We lynch among the six, scum nightkill among the seven.
6/11. Lynch, kill.
5/9. Lynch, kill.
4/7. Lynch, kill.
3/5. Lynch, kill.
2/3. Lynch.

Alternatively, we lynch among the six, scum kill among the seven, vig kills among the five.
6/10. Lynch, scum kills among the six, vig kills among the three.
5/7. Lynch, scum kills among the five, vig kills the last possible scum.

As long as we can agree to this as a townbloc. As long as we can agree that those seven names are town. We win.

[Nachomamma8]

Brother I've got some bad news for you called "I haven't slept in 2 days" but I'll see what's in the tank.

Go to sleep, come back when you're recharged.

[mastina]

Mastin, Gin, do you two have a little time on your hands?

Yes.
I really, really, really think we can POE-win this game, just if we can lock down the town for good. I've given my seven names for town; your feedback would be helpful there.

[Nachomamma8]

Right now I'm looking at an Ari, BTD6, dreal scumbloc.

My thoughts were more along the line of Monokuma/SAJ/Aristophanes.
Weren't you scumreading SAJ before?

[TheRealGin-N-Tonic]

I haven't studied Vax or SirCakez but I will give feedback after doing so. Otherwise thumbs up

P-Edit: @Nacho, key phrase being "right now." I've moved onto the notecard stage of righting the names of the possibilities and working on each group.

[TheRealGin-N-Tonic]

Also @Mastin, the game shifted once you stopped scum reading me honestly.

[TheRealGin-N-Tonic]

Sorry if I get spammy once I get into gamesolving mode as it starts to work at a 100 miles a minute.

If you need me to focus on that group of players when analyzing them I'd happily do it.

[mastina]

Just to be absolutely clear, here:

Nacho:

TheRealGin-N-Tonic:

Prism:

Fate:

All four of you, we can work together well and assume each other to be town solidly, but we need two others to be town in order to lock down a town win with absolute certainty. My proposed additions are

SirCakez

and

Vaxkiller

.
I would like that to be the winning townbloc. I can explain any of these in particular, especially the top five but also in SirCakez and Vaxkiller for why I think they're not actually scum.

Right now, we're not scumhunting. We're aiming to townhunt, to lock the game down, deny the scum any possible coverage.

SirCakez, Vaxiller:

Fuck your scumreads on me. You'll need to listen. This is the time where we absolutely break Pine. Town synergy right here and now is key. Nacho is feeling it, I'm feeling it, we're building everything up which needs to be built up, and if it ever gets to a gamestate where half of our townbloc is dead, and you were accepted into the townbloc, you need to not utterly fuck things up by voting someone in the townbloc.

[Nachomamma8]

Mastin, Gin, do you two have a little time on your hands?

Yes.
I really, really, really think we can POE-win this game, just if we can lock down the town for good. I've given my seven names for town; your feedback would be helpful there.

This is my thought, which is why I want a jam session.

If we can get scum either by lynch today or the super secret vigilante by night and maybe hopefully one confirmed town by night actions, then I think that we win. I want to jam with Gin especially because I want to push that read to higher bounds of confidence; yes, he looks painfully town, but I want all the quiet whispering voices to be quiet. I want to jam with you and Prism especially because you have different approaches to reading people with me and you will be good to help me from tunneling people (like Monokuma; I know that read is unpopular but my god it feels good; I've been trying not to push it excessively because I don't want to piss Nahdia off because I know she hates being tunneled as does anyone else but I need more from that slot to back off). I want to jam with Fate because I don't trust anyone else to bring me back to reality when I inevitably go off the deep end and start hard townreading scum that I caught not five minutes ago.

[Nachomamma8]

Sorry if I get spammy once I get into gamesolving mode as it starts to work at a 100 miles a minute.

If you need me to focus on that group of players when analyzing them I'd happily do it.

I'm going to spam like a crazy person starting now.
What are your full thoughts on SAJ?

[Monokuma]

Ooonnneeeee is the loneliest number that you'll ever dooooooooo
Twooooooo can be as bad as one, it's the loneliest number since the number oneee

[mastina]

Oh, and:

Aeronaut, Aristophanes, Secret Agent Jin, BTD6_maker, drealmerz, Monokuma:

Right now, you should be focusing on two things:
-Convincing us why you are town. (Yes, this is normally inadvisable, but in this case I'm demanding it: show us why you're town.)
-Tell us which players you don't want to be written off as town and why. If they're named Nacho/Gin/Prism/Fate/mastina, expect to be ignored. Otherwise, I will in fact listen.
-Tell us which players, if not the names you said not to townread, you

would

be comfortable making a townbloc with.

Anything else you do, literally ANYTHING else you do, will be a waste of time and effort. Those three things? Those three things are what you need to do.

[mastina]

(That was three things, but oh well. They're listed in order of approximate importance, most to least in my opinion.)