Open 662: Fire and Ice (Game Over)

[Realeo]

@havingfitz: What do you think of my case of NM/KMD or KMD/Kuroi

[havingfitz]

@havingfitz: What do you think of my case of NM/KMD or KMD/Kuroi

The only case I see you making is on kmd. Regardless...it appears you are looking at the same scum grouping as I am.

I have my doubts - Kmd4390, Akarin, Not_Mafia

[Realeo]

I would like to take a moment of silent as we're approaching a new hope

appocalypse

#DonaldTrump

[Akarin]

So Not_Mafia states intent to hammer, waits overnight, like all lol game-throwing anti-town townies do. havingfitz shows up and avoids commenting on Not_Mafia, one of his 3 top scumreads being at L-1 and threatening to self-hammer.

Let's remember that his reason for townreading Realeo, which he said he's doing, is that Realeo isn't in his top 3 suspects. So he must be pretty confident.

This is a scum claim from fitz, and I'm pretty sure Not_Mafia was signalling him to hammer for towncred.

[Not_Mafia]

I agree let's lynch Fitz

[havingfitz]

VOTE: Not_Mafia

[Realeo]

If NM flips scum, and I don't see a reason why it's not impossible, I don't think Akarin/Kuroi is possible scum partern of NM.

Alisae? I haven't really check her/him. I never scumread him, but given his basis is VC 1.1, I have to reconsider bussing. I find the false dichotomy confusing.

[light_ganski]

Official Vote Count 4.4

Not_Mafia (4)

- Realeo, Alisae, Akarin, havingfitz

Realeo (1)

- Not_Mafia

Not Voting (2)

- Kmd4390, Aristophanes

With 7 players alive, it takes 4 votes to lynch

You have (expired on 2017-01-29 09:49:43) until deadline.

[Realeo]

BOOM! I Post before the flip!

[light_ganski]

VOTE: Realeo

[Realeo]

Donald Trump just finished his speech.

[light_ganski]

As the sun fell and the sky turned a deep scarlet, the mob broke down Not_Mafia's front door, and a townie pulled a gun and shot Not_Mafia through the head.

Not_Mafia, a

Fire Mafia Goon

, has been lynched

Night 4 begins now. You have (expired on 2017-01-22 13:46:51) to submit your actions

[light_ganski]

As we have only a few players left, if all players PM me requesting to end the night early, I will do so as soon as I receive the last PM

[light_ganski]

The next morning, the townsfolk awoke to snow on the ground beneath an overcast sky. Which was unfortunate for Akarin, who was found face-down in a deep snowdrift. It had also been an unlucky night for Alisae, who appeared to have fallen head first into the oven.

Akarin, a

Vanilla Townie

, has been frozen
Alisae, a

Vanilla Townie

, has been burnt

[light_ganski]

Official Vote Count 5.0

Not Voting (4)

- Kmd4390, Aristophanes, Realeo, havingfitz

With 4 players alive, it takes 3 votes to lynch

You have (expired on 2017-02-05 15:54:18) until deadline.

[havingfitz]

Correct me if I'm wrong but I think the only way town can win is if we no lynch or mislynch today and scum gets their heads out of their asses and actually shoot their opposing scum team. If we lynch scum today town just loses with the nk.

I'm fine being the sacrificial mislynch. Are any of you?

Scum seriously have sucked shooting. Pathetic.

[Kmd4390]

Yeah, you're right. Lynching scum doesn't help us. It leaves 2:1 going into night and 1:1 after the NK which is guaranteed to hit town.

No lynch brings us to night 2:1:1. Scum crosskill wins. Scum shooting same town player puts us in a do-over except scum know their target was town. 1 scum and 1 town death is a win for the surviving scum. Two town deaths leaves 1:1 between scum teams and I don't know if that's a draw or what but frankly I don't care because it's a town loss.

Mislynch makes night 1:1:1. Scum crosskill is still a town win. Scum both shooting town means everyone knows each other's alignment for a do-over. One town and one scum death is a win for surviving scum.

So, ironically, lynching scum is the worst possible outcome today. I think we need to no lynch.

You're also 100% right about this shitty shooting. I forget which one, but one of those kills was the josh slot and he was obvtown so that was a horrible kill. How Aris survived the night I have no idea.

Vote no lynch

If we decide to lynch, it needs to be havingfitz or myself. That opening post was very town. It's probably not worth the risk, just my two cents, but the scum are obviously Aris and Realeo at this point and I'm not helping to lynch either of them. Assuming havingfitz won't either, your guys' only chance to win is to shoot the other and hope you survive. It doesn't benefit you to shoot town just in case you didn't already figure that out like 3 game days ago.

[havingfitz]

Scum doesn't know wtf they are doing. Giving them each a 1 in 3 chance of hitting scum is less optimal than a 1 in 2 chance.

I.e. a no lynch isn't town's best choice.

VOTE: havingfitz

[Kmd4390]

True

Unvote, Vote Kmd

I don't know 100% that you are town so I'd rather do this.

[havingfitz]

If I'm scum it does me no good to vote myself out.

[Kmd4390]

I know. I'm pretty convinced you are town. But I've seen my own Role PM, not yours.

[Kmd4390]

*shrug*

Unvote, Vote havingfitz

There's almost no way you're scum. Let's just be on the same page here. Makes things easier.

[Aristophanes]

So what you're saying is that there no point doing analysis and that KMD & Realeo are the scum. Isn't that fantastic.

[Kmd4390]

If you'd have shot realeo, we could have that discussion. But now the game is up to scum's shooting tonight...

[Aristophanes]

So, Fitz dues today and we have a real conundrum.

If I shoot VT KMD, and Realeo shoots me, we lose and Realeo wins. If Realeo and I both go for the VT shot on KMD, he cannot win, as we I'll vote each other tomorrow making a Kingmaker scenario for KMD. If I shoot Realeo, he will either go for the KMD VT shot and lose or make a shot at me and lose.

So Realeo, here is what I suggest to you.
Shoot KMD. I also will shoot KMD.This is the best shot at fulfilling your wincon.

I promise I will shoot him tonight. If you shoot me, so be it. But if you shoot him, we can have a proper D6 where we both have a chance! It is the fair and respectful thing to do, and will make for a fantastic final showdown.

Yes, I could be bluffing and in theory could shoot you tonight, but I am a an of honour and I hope you will respect that. If you trust me, shoot KMD. If you do not trust me, then I don't trust you and we will both lose.