Mini 1868 - Sakura Wars: So Long, My Love Mafia [GAME OVER]

[Medea the Alien]

We obviously still want our -Grey- lynch, but that'll have to be another day's work.

UNVOTE:

Voting AJ or BBMolla tonight; leaning AJ myself but I need to read when it's not dribs and drabs between testing.

--PA

[Reflektor]

Vote: AJ the Epic

Still don't want to lynch BBMolla.

[Reflektor]

Especially after his latest reactions to the lynch.

[Reflektor]

I would imagine that his increased confidence in reads has something to do with being pissed off but maybe that only happens to me.

[shadonra]

Aj The Epic - -Grey-, BBMolla, Empking, randomidget (L-2)
is this really a town wagon? really???

[shadonra]

for me the townest person in those 5 names is either empking or randommidget, it's close, but i feel like no one in the game is townreading all of those 4 on the right

[Aj The Epic]

VOTE: RandomMidget

I'm VT so go ahead but this dude is the biggest scumfuck in this game.

[shadonra]

I don't feel like nolynch favors scum very much in this setup. Town has two cops (with possibly wrong results, but still!) and a doctor. If there's a wagon I don't like at L-1 at deadline, I'm not hammering.

[Fate]

VOTE: AJ the Epic

most likely a town flip but better than another PR?

idk

[Fate]

oh I didnt read your post shadonra

shouldv'e thought that through a bit more =/

[Medea the Alien]

You don't fucking say.

We were going to hammer at deadline, now we've got to rush out our wallpost before mod comes in.

[Fate]

;D

[Medea the Alien]

P-edit: posting this before thread lock

Grey: As said before; grey was clearly closely reading my posts (he went so far as to comment on a typo/grammar error in one of them) and made the most obvious lead up into voting us ever. He's scum who went looking for a good reason to join the wagon on us; not town who was looking for scum.

Why does it matter if he telegraphed his vote when he made it?
It's not like you don't know who you're voting before you're done catching up; did you take any particular issue with the reasoning he pushed you on?

Okay, I know this isn't getting wagoned, but I've been out of it. Yes, frequently people decide where their vote's going before they've read every single post, but the first thing he bothers commenting on is Cabd's grammar error. He objects to Cabd's thinking it's towny for Persivul to notice the same phrasing, which...what, makes us scum with Persivul, makes us white-knighting, what?

He supposedly starts to consider us as viable scum when he finds out Fate's been phoneposting. So...the case is more convincing because of that? The case that he hasn't commented on?

Then:

I strongly disagree with this. What exactly in their tone sounds towny? They sound about as disengaged as is possible.

Somebody preparing for a 7 day visit with their daughter sounds disengaged?

REALLY?

Fucking scum ass push.

Because the V/LA post is the only one we get to judge someone on...that happens to be a push on his slot.

And then he follows his townreads. Which are: Fate, Reflektor, Realeo, and BBMolla. At the time of his post (near as I can tell) Fate's voting us, BBMolla is voting Indigo/Grey, Reflektor is voting Fate, and Realeo is voting AJ (Tammy was voting us before the replace-out, obv.) I'll give you the idea of 'follow the other supposed townies' and yeah, two were voting us, but of the other two, one was voting supposed town-him and the other was voting a different town read. Which would seem to indicate that maybe your town reads aren't the most cohesive people to be following?

I knew where he was voting as soon as he made the grammar vig post. (had my phone on at lab, couldn't post at the time) He was paying too much attention to our stuff but not engaging with it. (FTR, I found two other grammar errors in the two pages leading up to that.) If he was reading in order, he managed to avoid commenting on the whole scum read of us in that. If he was closely reading us because he checked the latest VC and wanted to know who would dare vote his 'clear town' slot, he would have been doing so, considering if we were scum. Instead he skirted around the whole thing, made very weak points, and came up with a good sounding reason to have his vote on us that falls apart with some investigation.

--PA

[Medea the Alien]

;D

I hate you but at the same time it's 50-50 odds the mod notices hammer soooo

[Medea the Alien]

PS just like Cleavland blew a 3-1 lead; so did Reflektor throw our townread there.

[shadonra]

FATE PLS

[Medea the Alien]

Right now, town reads on BBMolla, Realeo, shadonra. Not liking Fate for town, if I'm being honest. I know he's moving the game along, but a lot of what he's suggesting is suboptimal. Suggesting we shoot someone with our one shot without a claim or a concerted wagon, pushing for hammers, not seeming to reevaluate when his biggest push of the game claims their PR.

Cabd just thinks it's a playstyle clash that's making us side-eye his posting, but eh. I feel really uneasy with him leading the decision making so much, even as I admit that we haven't been doing anything to counter that. Just something to consider when there are flip(s) to work with tomorrow.

--PA

[-Grey-]

Oh hey, scum got hammered.

Cool.

[Medea the Alien]

AJ, if you're town get your ass in here and give us some final thoughts eh?

[Medea the Alien]

I forgot Uzi and Gamma were in this game too lmao.

[Medea the Alien]

Yeah.. Uzi up; Reflektor down; after re-skimming the game once more.

[Aj The Epic]

Grey is scum, RM is scum. Fate needs to get his act together or get shot. Fuck BBmolla, he's still scum.

Uzi is town, Realo is wrong but town, shadoronna is probs town.

Assuming a missed vig shot, mass claim. Start with RM. Go to BBMolla (who hinted VT so suspect any other bullshit). Look Reflector next, into Grey. Afterwards IDGAF that's probably the scum team if Fate isn't scum.

[Aj The Epic]

Also I have no idea what game Empking is playing, but LUV ain't scum...

[Aj The Epic]

And lastly, do NOT trust pursivul.

[Medea the Alien]

If you're town there's no assurances we shoot but yeah noted.