Newbie 1767 | Winter | Endgame

[Selynee]

Hi, everybody. Hello Fred.

VOTE: Fredrick E Campbell

[Selynee]

Given the fact that we are out of RVS
UNVOTE: Fredrick

Not sure if he is town or not (to be fair the only person I think is town right now is Loopdan), and I couldn't read him the almost the entire first game we've played in, but I don't have at this moment any specific reason to think he is mafia.

[Selynee]

I agree with Rask on TheBrie.

Huntress, do you think Rask is town ?

[Selynee]

Ooh, somebody voted for me. But not the person I voted for. Probably that person could tell I'm innocent. I mean I must be innocent. I'm so not worried that I forgot this existed for a couple of days.

This doesn't make much sense. We have no way of knowing if you forgot about this game or not and it wouldn't make much of a difference if we did as mafia can forget about the game as well. Also, realistically speaking, how could any town member know you are innocent based on your RVS vote?

Unvote; Vote: TheBrie

Why made you change your vote from Fredrick to TheBrie?

[Selynee]

If Huntress still suspects Echo and can explain why, I'll jump on that wagon. Something doesn't seem quite right.

Why not vote for Echo yourself if you suspect him?

[Selynee]

I don't see the point in putting you at L-1 so early when I'm not convinced you are mafia. Also, I've never said I think you-Echo are the scumteam.

Do you believe Huntress is town?

[Selynee]

Echo, even if Sens didn't know there is no such thing as "1-shot game-end", if he is mafia he would know that Loopdan was wrong about the scumteam, so the game wouldn't end.
But I agree that his vote on Brie is strange considering he accused Fred before this of quoting Rask out of context and ignoring the explanation for her vote.

[Selynee]

Because if you believe he purposefully ignored the reason for a vote and quoted someone out of context, the only reasonable explanation would be that he did it to make Rask look bad. So, I don't understand why you would change your vote.

[Selynee]

TheBrie- still not sure. Some of her later posts seem to be trying to solve the game. She saying she is willing to join a wagon if Huntress can explain why she suspects Echo while being uncertain about Huntress herself being town does seem concerning to me. Might be that she genuinely believes Echo is mafia but want to see others opinion as well.
Echo- to be fair, I didn't see much in post 22. His case on SensFan does look superficial given the fact that he didn't take into consideration that if SensFan is mafia, he would know that the game wasn't over. Can't see any reason for a vote for Brie sudden unvote and voting himself.
Fredrick is active and asking a lot of questions. I'd probably be more suspicious of some of his questions but he was somewhat meticulous in our first game as well.
SensFan- I was suspicious of him because of his vote change from Fredrick. I admit that post 141 makes sense, still not sure he is town.
I'm pretty sure loopdan is town. His actions makes more sense from a town perspective then a mafia one (using another player's advice).

[Selynee]

I said I'm still not sure you are town. Yes, your post makes sense, but I am not sure you wouldn't be able to make the same post even if you are mafia.

[Selynee]

Lucca, how do you read post 183?

[Selynee]

@lucca- I wanted a second opinion. To be exact, in my first game, a player used the argument that a non-traditional defense to an accusation (as in not giving the kind of defense that people expect) is more likely to come from town than mafia. Obviously, this is a different situation here (started with the fact that SensFan is an experienced player while the person in that game wasn't), so I've wanted to see how someone else reads that post.

[Selynee]

Because I was pretty much useless D1 and didn't vote (though I wanted to vote Echo), my starting vote is going to be pretty risky, but I guess at this point a 50-50 read is worth it.

VOTE: Raskolnikov

[Selynee]

So the mafia team was Fredrick and Rask. GG. I was 100% sure after my vote Rask was the doctor and Fred did a pretty good job at faking his town game.

My apologies, Sickofit. Should have replaced out before signing a death sentence on the slot.