Large Normal 200 - Big Round Numbers - Game Over

[Creature]

If you were a vigilante, who would you kill (not including me)?

[Dunnstral]

they are bad

[Alisae]

Wraith wanted Kyouko
Slick wanted me (lol)
Apparently you want Wraith judging by who you are voting.
And Dunnstral wants drealmerz.

pedit:If Wraith was lynched, I'd shoot Echo.
If Wraith wasn't lynched, I'd shoot Wraith.

pedit2: cuz you're in there? That reaction test was scummy as fuck to then say "I don't want Echo"

[Alisae]

Oh yeah and Echo wants Dunn

[EchoVision]

Also I'd like to point out that Echovision keeps trying to discredit me and my Wraith push. I'm assuming that was the purpose of the 'trying to get into Titus's pants' comment.
He goes tomorrow.

no, it was cause you're always up titus' ass. you started the game off just asking for their top reads blah blah blah asked if your vote was okay with her and it's like you're her bitch but she doesn't want you to be her bitch

[Zachstralkita]

lmfao

[EchoVision]

Also I'd like to point out that Echovision keeps trying to discredit me and my Wraith push. I'm assuming that was the purpose of the 'trying to get into Titus's pants' comment.
He goes tomorrow.

forgot to mention it's cause your Wraith push is shit. give reasons behind it at least instead of repeatedly calling him scummy...

[EchoVision]

Also I'd like to point out that Echovision keeps trying to discredit me and my Wraith push. I'm assuming that was the purpose of the 'trying to get into Titus's pants' comment.
He goes tomorrow.

We are not lynching Wraith today on your garbage. You want Wraith, bring good evidence that's worth letting near confirmed scum go and wrecking my VCA.

RE FUCKING TWEET

[EchoVision]

Mortfeld/Wraith/EchoVision is the blue scumteam.

you must have sucked in English cause you don't support jack shit with evidence...

[EchoVision]

Mortfeld/Wraith/EchoVision is the blue scumteam.

No. Wraith and Mort are town.

Titus your reads are wrong this game.

then why are you trying to get in her pants

[MortFeld]

Also I'd like to point out that Echovision keeps trying to discredit me and my Wraith push. I'm assuming that was the purpose of the 'trying to get into Titus's pants' comment.
He goes tomorrow.

forgot to mention it's cause your Wraith push is shit. give reasons behind it at least instead of repeatedly calling him scummy...

Wait. Servera has given a reason. Do you not understand it or do you deny it happened?

[EchoVision]

I'm not sure if I ever told you but there's a set of metrics I use when going over your reads to determine whether your reads are good or not.
The reason I sheeped you on Fire in TTH's game was because every single metric said that your read on the remaining slots would be on point.
Did you know that when you're absolutely unwilling to consider compromise then your lynch wagon is nearly always on town?
Conversely, when you are actually on scum, you are usually way more willing to compromise and a lot less sure of yourself.
Did you know that when you're directly trying to connect wagons and put together scumteams early you are usually wrong?
Conversely, when your read is something more along the lines of 'This 1 person is scum and I don't know what else is going on' your read is usually right.
I understand that you are perceiving me adversarially here but with your current play I have very good reason to not want to follow you and your creature vote is going the exact wrong direction.
and I am fucking confident in Wraith/Echo scum. I am very, very, very rarely this confident in a scumteam this early in the game but there is literally nothing pointing me away from them being a scumteam.

it'll point you away when Wraith and I both flip green

[EchoVision]

Is it just because there are too many wagons for us to consolidate if we discuss All Alone?

I'll go through AA's iso soon, probably tomorrow morning if I have time

[MortFeld]

Answer the other one. I want to know you understand the case and disagree with it rather than just saying there's no case.

[EchoVision]

Also I'd like to point out that Echovision keeps trying to discredit me and my Wraith push. I'm assuming that was the purpose of the 'trying to get into Titus's pants' comment.
He goes tomorrow.

forgot to mention it's cause your Wraith push is shit. give reasons behind it at least instead of repeatedly calling him scummy...

Wait. Servera has given a reason. Do you not understand it or do you deny it happened?

when did they give a reason...?

[EchoVision]

skimmed very lightly through the iso and didn't see shit...? am I missing it?

[Zachstralkita]

It looks like he just made an assumption. Also that weird Debinometry.

I dont think assuming multi ball in a large by default is a scumclaim.

Is your position that he didn't assume, he made a concrete statement?

Zach this isn't rocket science. Wraith has spent the whole game assuming multiball and freaking out that anyone who FOSes him is opposite faction scum who genuinely scumreads him.
That does not come from town.

[Zachstralkita]

The point is it's not a question of multiball. It's a question of how he was clearly aware that it was multiball and searching to scumread people for it, and him assuming that the people that mutually FOS him are members of the opposite faction who genuinely think he's scum (which is possible but not at all a town thought process.)

[Zachstralkita]

Im with Titus on that one tbh, think its a reach

[Alisae]

WAIT A MINUTE....I'VE BEEN FOSING EVERYONE WHO SR'D ME YESTERDAY AS WELL!
DOES THAT MAKE ME SCUM?

[Severa]

Im with Titus on that one tbh, think its a reach

I don't think that you're a bad player because you were wrong in one game. I think you're a bad player because your reads are consistently poor and you constantly reject solid reasoning.

They are going to flip scum.

[Dunnstral]

And Dunnstral wants drealmerz.

I'm not voting drealmer

WAIT A MINUTE....I'VE BEEN FOSING EVERYONE WHO SR'D ME YESTERDAY AS WELL!
DOES THAT MAKE ME SCUM?

It makes you worse than you were in general

[Zachstralkita]

Im with Titus on that one tbh, think its a reach

I don't think that you're a bad player because you were wrong in one game. I think you're a bad player because your reads are consistently poor and you constantly reject solid reasoning.

They are going to flip scum.

You're of the opinion that we've played enough for you to label anything I've done as consistent?

[Dunnstral]

Im with Titus on that one tbh, think its a reach

I don't think that you're a bad player because you were wrong in one game. I think you're a bad player because your reads are consistently poor and you constantly reject solid reasoning.

They are going to flip scum.

Why is wraith scum, anyway?

If you said it I didn't see it

[SlickDilinger]

Alisae why are you letting people dictate your vote?

... just want this one read again.