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[Severa]

Echo/Wraith are scum on the same faction. If I am alive tomorrow I will do more. Otherwise I wash my hands of this game. gl.

[ssbm_Kyouko]

Also he did vote Wraith I added it to Q+ I guess because I was thinking I hadn't seen him post much in a while and wondered why he wasn't voting Wraith now or something, didn't finish reading. beh.

VOTE: SlickDilinger

Just gonna go back to this if people are fine with Severa

Why do I get the feeling you are avoiding the Wraith wagon as well?

Probably coming from the tinfoil hat you always have on

I'll claim if needed but there is again, no reason for voting me coming from my voters

[Creature]

Something tells me that scum made that claim to make sure I don't get doc protection.

lol, why would I protect you (if I could)?

[Severa]

Any smart protective would but I wouldn't expect you to understand

[The Rebbe]

Any smart protective would but I wouldn't expect you to understand

I take this as a soft claim. Care to share any important results from last night?

[Severa]

It's not a soft and if I was softing my result would be pretty fucking obvious.

[EchoVision]

Considering that my predecessor vigged one scumfuck, I don't see why the vig is being a detriment to town.

Wait, so if your predecessor shot texcat, then neither mafia team went through with a night kill??????????

that's weird as fuck...?

[EchoVision]

How hillarious would it be if the mod was just making us think it was multiball?

I've seen moderators do that before. That might actually explain why there was only one kill last night. I don't think both scum teams would accurately role block each other.

but the one kill was by you?

[EchoVision]

I don't believe the vig claim.

Something tells me that scum made that claim to make sure I don't get doc protection.

for once i actually agree with you on something... that vig claim is weird as fuck to me and it's making me uneasy.

[MortFeld]

I believe the claim

Wraith I thought my scumreading you was evident. I just pause since I don't know if a scummer would put so much analytical effort into the catch up walls.

Rebbe explain kyouko vote please. If your claim is true I also scumread Kyouko but I'm not sure why you do.

[EchoVision]

also mort, it's not that i don't understand his case against wraith, it's that i never saw a case against wraith to understand. but i'm sure yours is sufficient, so i'll go reread yours

[EchoVision]

I believe the claim

Wraith I thought my scumreading you was evident. I just pause since I don't know if a scummer would put so much analytical effort into the catch up walls.

Rebbe explain kyouko vote please. If your claim is true I also scumread Kyouko but I'm not sure why you do.

you believe that neither mafia faction got a kill last night??

[Titus]

Considering that my predecessor vigged one scumfuck, I don't see why the vig is being a detriment to town.

Wait, so if your predecessor shot texcat, then neither mafia team went through with a night kill??????????

that's weird as fuck...?

Went through with? Weird phrasing

[Alisae]

Echo any Vig claim makes you uneasy. This game is evidence of that.

[MortFeld]

I believe the claim

Wraith I thought my scumreading you was evident. I just pause since I don't know if a scummer would put so much analytical effort into the catch up walls.

Rebbe explain kyouko vote please. If your claim is true I also scumread Kyouko but I'm not sure why you do.

you believe that neither mafia faction got a kill last night??

I townread debislot and don't see why scum who is not under pressure would fakeclaim vig knowing there was only 1 nightkill.

[MortFeld]

Echo any Vig claim makes you uneasy. This game is evidence of that.

It doesn't make you uneasy?

Also there have been 2 vig claims and one has already proven to be a fakeclaim so uneasiness is reasonable imo

[EchoVision]

Wraith

30 so no RVS vote to start. I never like when people decline to RVS in their first post but it's prob NAI
119 when I read Debi it was CLEAR to me that she was newb and pulled a ratio out of nowhere. It's one of the
reasons I strongly townread the slot. Scum doesn't come up with an absurd hypothetical ratio and spend
paragraphs analyzing the math around it when scum knows how many people are on their team. Wraith
assumed two things:
1. that Debi's ratio implied foreknowledge and because of this
2. that the setup was multiball
That the setup is actually multiball could be confbias but I do agree with Severa here. Why would town ever
think that Debi's ratio implied foreknowledge? 9/19 is absurd and everyone including Wraith pointed this out.
Yet Wraith, rather than doing what (?) Creature (? Don't remember who this was might have been Pine) did
and repeat "Adapt" 30 times, took Debi at face value. This belies a paranoia that I don't think is town.
Arguments against this are essentially "But Wraith has done towny things" and "This is reachy" so I'm
keeping these in mind as I read.
121 Wraith continues to maintain that Debi has foreknowledge. It is not a possibility in Wraith's mind that Debi
is newb and has no idea what she is talking about.
126 more of Wraith's not allowing that Debi is newb.
130 Wraith allows that Debi might be newb.
144 Ircher says 'yo dude you're assumin a lot and it ain't helpful' Wraith says 'nah it is helpful bro'
488 starts off towny. Alisae's vote was awful. But I can see scum!Wraith making that post assuming Alisae is
not on his scumteam. Especially without even a vote, just like 'yo look at this scummery!' He then goes on to say
he doesn't like rb's entrance but doesn't say why (for the record, I've seen town rb enter other games in a very
similar way) and he townleans Echo and Grey. Echo+Wraith is Severa's proposed scumteam and Grey is
confscum, so /shrug idk imma keep reading.
621 is grosss accusing now conftown rb of a scumslip and then spending two paragraphs speculating about
multiball. I get that multiball/no multiball is part of the basis for his rb vote, but that honestly makes it worse
for me. Maybe I am bad but as town I wasn't even thinking about multiball before it was confirmed.
622 does Grey make this vote if he and Wraith are a scumteam? Probably not, imo
676 Wraith has already said he thinks Alisae is lynchbait (621) and that he shouldn't lynch lynchbait that day,
but now he's 180ing and focusing on Ali's Pine townread - which is a bad townread yes but stuff like that is exactly
why Ali is considered lynchbait. He also recalls her Wraith vote which I get, it's a bad vote. But it feels like he
tosses it in with other pieces of 'evidence' as part of an Ali case, given that nobody latched onto it originally. He's
also explicitly fence sitting between rb and Ali wagons.
681 apologizes for Debi vote… NAI. I've seen both town and scum do this. Reading the rest of 681 it honestly looks
really town. I agree with a lot of what he says and it's really measured, objective, and gamesolvy. His reads are
confusing though for their lack of Dunn and LUV who had both been fairly active.
777 so this is a D7 flashwagon? Hm. Sitting out is NAI I think but I don't like using unmentionable player trends as
justification for a read. Not sure if it's actually anti-town.
1092 ugghhhh these walls I hate walls (knowing full well I am creating some - I would never ever do this
if I didn't replace in after 150 pages). Don't like some of his reads. HS' 1007 is not that bad. Townreads Grey
(though I do highly doubt they're on a scumteam). Don't get the Alisae read, gotta actually read 1097. In general
the reads are based on how much sense players make - not sure if that shows scum/town intent.
1097 ok I guess this could be town. I don't think it's too arguable than an Alisae lynch would be pro-town in
some respects.
Dude I can't deal with Wraith's playstyle. He doesn't even link posts.
2314 why is he scumreading Gin now? 1758 (ok, I can see this) and the vig claim. Given that Gin was actually
fakeclaiming I guess I can see this. But you've been saying Gin is the voice of reason all game and now a post from
AA and Gin's claim that you don't believe transform him from TOP TOWNREAD to SCUMREAD… a little fishy
Hmm. Wraith insists on a Gin lynch a lot. Could be that he believes the claim and wants to push the Vig lynch
through.
Disclaimer, I am skimming. Eyes are getting tired.
Census. What was the percentage of people who believed Gin vs people who didn't? Clearly he was lynched so.
Dunnstral's 2753 is pinging me.
2980 grossssssss why is Alisae town now?? This renews the idea of Wraith+Greyslot scumteam. 2980 honestly
looks like the reads you'd get if you knew it wasn't multiball.
Taking a break bc sleep.

TL;DR Wraith might be town. But I don't like 119 at all and there are enough weird poorly justified switches in opinion to give me pause. Could be explained by Wraith's constant missing a lot and catching up, or that could be a built-in excuse for having reads on the periphery.

I agree with the first little bit of this, when you were saying how he started out scummy cause of the confrontation with Debi. I believe I even put up a vote for him cause of this on d1. My issue with it is everything after that has pinged as town for me, and I haven't had an issue with anything else that he's posted.

[EchoVision]

Considering that my predecessor vigged one scumfuck, I don't see why the vig is being a detriment to town.

Wait, so if your predecessor shot texcat, then neither mafia team went through with a night kill??????????

that's weird as fuck...?

Went through with? Weird phrasing

just the first words that came to my head. when i start writing, i don't stop until i'm done typing even if it makes me sound stupid.

[EchoVision]

I believe the claim

Wraith I thought my scumreading you was evident. I just pause since I don't know if a scummer would put so much analytical effort into the catch up walls.

Rebbe explain kyouko vote please. If your claim is true I also scumread Kyouko but I'm not sure why you do.

you believe that neither mafia faction got a kill last night??

I townread debislot and don't see why scum who is not under pressure would fakeclaim vig knowing there was only 1 nightkill.

very true... I trust the slot, i just don't trust the claim...

[MortFeld]

You saying that worries me. You should have little idea what happened at night. Even if you're a protective PR that would explain only 1 scum nightkill and any number of things could explain the other one.

[Alisae]

Echo explain to me the perfect, believable vig claim.

[MortFeld]

Dunn returned a guilty on someone, who was it again?

[MortFeld]

Or was that a reaction test

Sorry I'm on mobile for today with little time

[MortFeld]

Echo explain to me the perfect, believable vig claim.

Start with them actually being vig

[drealmerz7]

Dunn returned a guilty on someone, who was it again?

EV