Mini 1868 - Sakura Wars: So Long, My Love Mafia [GAME OVER]

[Persivul]

FYI I'm in last day of phase in another game, will get back to this tomorrow.

[Fate]

VOTE: Fate

Holy fuck this kid is so fucking obviously scum what are you guys doing????

Really regretting my AJ switch now


You ungrateful scumfuck

[BBmolla]

Fate did you have an exceedingly large game style change since some time last year or whenever we played last

I'm just having trouble fathoming your completely different play style

[Fate]

We haven't played together in at least 3 years, probably more.

So short answer is yes. Long answer is my style fluctuates even more with each game than it did before, so it hasnt been a static playstle into a new playstyle, its been a unpredictable playstyle into a probably more unpredictable playstyle.

[Empking]

I really don't get emp's logic at all
Why is being "reasonably rational" scummy?
And YES I used that term.

There are two types of players in this game. Scum and Town. Scum will act in these ways in these percentages. Town will act ct in the same ways in different percentages. The trick is getting a story that gives good percentages*. Reasonably rational is the group that, I conjecture, scum are more likely to act as compared to their town counterparts.

*And obviously there are also pro-scum actions and the trick of working out when they're deliberately being taken. If AJ flipped scum then that would have given a huge pool of those. He didn't.

Still strongly against hypo-Gunsmiths. it gives so much information to scum.

However, what i propose is that - if the Gunsmith got a guilty - he gives his gun to the player above the guilty on the player list. If, after a while, he does not give a gun to a player and everyone has posted, then someone announces that the Gunsmith should give the gun to his innocent.

Fate: When you said you didn't remember anything I'd done wre you exagorating for humourous effect? Cause he seem to have referred to pretty much everything I'd done, including my apathetic aniapathy saving your behind (Yeah, I'm going for that story.)

[Gamma Emerald]

No one gets a gun, EVER

[Fate]

Oh wow, that post contains zero reads or strances except set-up shit!

Not surprised

[Fate]

Molla I dont give a shit if you cant read my playstyle look at the contributions ot the game and see that Empking has done fuckall

thats all I'm asking of you

[Empking]

Oh wow, that post contains zero reads or strances except set-up shit!

Not surprised

It included a sentence which is far more useful. Care to answer it?

[Gamma Emerald]

I wanted random to produce content thats all.

been busy, but my heart wasnt in that wagon as seen by other townies

VOTE: Medea

With that vote, I'm going to play the classic flip-flop town

UNVOTE:

????
I have no clue what to make of this post

[Gamma Emerald]

(Trying to determine where scum is going to vote isn't useful until we actually know something).

I think it more had to do with how a 4-man team would behave.
I think they would try to act as a unit while simultaneously attempting to distance, maybe disagreeing on small things
I've been part of a 4-man team before, but the thing is it was a no-town game so I'm not sure how to compare that to what I might see here.

[Gamma Emerald]

(Trying to determine where scum is going to vote isn't useful until we actually know something).

We are a little bit desperate at this point.

Vig and GS really should consider shooting and gunning

Vig should shoot for more info.

GS should gun for a clear in potentialy D2 lylo.

AIGH Realeo is giving me so many pings but my mind wants to say town

[Gamma Emerald]

VOTE: Aj the epic

Scum used to be hard to find

*insert snarky response about you just being bad*

There's really no point in worrying about D2 already. If Vig shoots tonight and misses, then we'll have to mass claim tomorrow. That's about all there is to it.

Empking! BbMolla! Why don't you scumread this? Isn't this robotic~not scared of apocalyptic commet attack attitude

I think it was Persivul who pointed out the wording parallel with whatever I said?
Did anyone note "commet"?

[Gamma Emerald]

Spoiler: Our Vert

Hey guys.

What's shaking?

I don't math but sounds about right. Why do you seem so concerned?

I don't math but sounds about right. Why do you seem so concerned?

You're not? I like to have some chance at winning.

It's a rare occurrence to get a scum lynch day one, and it's a rarer occurrence that a vig kill lands on scum. That puts us at losing night two unless the stars align perfectly.

Not really. I have good feeling about the player list.

I think I'm gonna do RQS this game

Please don't.

I think our best bet is to just play and convince the vigilante to stay put if we mislynch D1.

Spoiler: Their Vert

Checking in.

I'm not familiar with any of the flavor but I feel like it could be indicative of alignment in some way. I'll try to read up on it sometime tomorrow.

Taking all of the claims so far with a grain of salt. I think Lady's post restriction thing might be legit though. Seems like it would be very hard to fake but at the same time it's a convenient excuse for lack of content.

Am I missing something with Camn and Jae? Saw a few votes on them and didn't really see anything too scummy.

Checking in.

I'm not familiar with any of the flavor but I feel like it could be indicative of alignment in some way. I'll try to read up on it sometime tomorrow.

Taking all of the claims so far with a grain of salt. I think Lady's post restriction thing might be legit though. Seems like it would be very hard to fake but

at the same time it's a convenient excuse for lack of content.

Am I missing something with Camn and Jae? Saw a few votes on them and didn't really see anything too scummy.

The bolded, for clarification.

Not once has LLD used it as an excuse for lack of content.

p-edit: hmmmm Spyrex can go up a tier

I'm just saying that it could be used as an excuse since she's having a difficult time so far with posts.

Seems like it would be very hard to fake

Posting with good grammar is hard to fake?

To me yeah. Depending on what and how much you want to say, especially if you have no one to proofread your post.

Okay on a reread I'm seeing what you guys are seeing now. I thought you guys were voting Jae for their vigilante comment which I found fairly reasonable considering what kind of game this is.

I don't understand how Jae originally found a conformation post more worthy of receiving a read compared to someone claiming miller. Even if you have a real reason for not factoring the claim, you could have still commented on her laughing at Lady's claim. I mean that would have most likely been received null but it's better than leaving someone off the list like they never posted.

Why the TR on Magna?

To general meta concerns, I feel like Lil Uzi Vert in the other game didn't feel like he was trying to avoid saying anything marginally uselful/risky; there, he pushed on someone because he thought they were maybe faking a PR claim, he clarified what was going on between players and he gave opinions on it. Here, I'm not really sure how to qualify his play other than coasting.

Vote: Lil Uzi Vert

I'll probably continue a larger case tomorrow when I have a little more time to work with but this is where I want to lynch today.

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I don't think you did your homework properly. This not only lacks context but a comperhensive understanding of my personality. This feels like you scrambled to find a reason to stay away from the Fate-Midget debate. Anyone can pick out a few posts from a previous game and compare them to posts from a current game same said player is in and say this isn't their town game.

VOTE: Reflektor

Update on your opinion here LUV?

[Persivul]

I am onto something Grey. I got a strong "Cop" vibe from Empking so I left him alone yesterday, but now hes a quality player who skated by all of D1 and did nothing to try to dismantle the "Fate wagon that had bad vibes" etc.

What's the difference between a cop vibe and a gunsmith vibe?

[Gamma Emerald]

I wanted random to produce content thats all.

been busy, but my heart wasnt in that wagon as seen by other townies

VOTE: Medea

i will. i work weirdly. sometimes it takes me a while to get going but I'm trying to figure this one out.

(Trying to determine where scum is going to vote isn't useful until we actually know something).

to a certain extent there is. Scum do want to push through a QL today. Which is why it is weird my wagon didn't grow faster.

Gonna start ISOing players I don't really have a read on (persivul, LUV, Realeo for example)

sorta-responding, there WAS a pseudo-wagon on RM (support on a vig shot on him), so that would be a decent place to look for scum

[Persivul]

Glad to see Gamma's decided to start playing mafia,

You don't find it suspicious that a cop dies and then he goes from lurking to active? Like scum that got a boost of confidence from the flip?

[Gamma Emerald]

I mean Tammy/AJ are universally town read

Lol at trying to throw AJ in as an universal townread.

what about Tammy tjho

What about her? She was pretty towny.

Yeah
gonna go back and see if her content was worth townreading after Real's strange behavior at some point

[Persivul]

Still strongly against hypo-Gunsmiths. it gives so much information to scum.

This is correct. I'm not sure if the people proposing it are scummy or just not thinking it through.

However, what i propose is that - if the Gunsmith got a guilty - he gives his gun to the player above the guilty on the player list. If, after a while, he does not give a gun to a player and everyone has posted, then someone announces that the Gunsmith should give the gun to his innocent.

This - not so much. GS only gives the gun to an inno result.

[Empking]

Oh wow, that post contains zero reads or strances except set-up shit!

Not surprised

It included a sentence which is far more useful. Care to answer it?

*question

Gamma: Why would one want to note the meany's use of "commet"?

[Gamma Emerald]

I'm still fine with the -Grey- slot as town

Alien vs. -Grey- competing waogns would be good to see

hm

[Gamma Emerald]

Oh wow, that post contains zero reads or strances except set-up shit!

Not surprised

It included a sentence which is far more useful. Care to answer it?

*question

Gamma: Why would one want to note the meany's use of "commet"?

meany?
Anyway, it's more the fact both you and realeo misspelled it as commet which is odd. The proper word is "comet".

[Empking]

Oh wow, that post contains zero reads or strances except set-up shit!

Not surprised

It included a sentence which is far more useful. Care to answer it?

*question

Gamma: Why would one want to note the meany's use of "commet"?

meany?
Anyway, it's more the fact both you and realeo misspelled it as commet which is odd. The proper word is "comet".

Oh, you're reading it as a genuine error on his part? Or both copying from the same source?

[Gamma Emerald]

So our sewer line just backed up into the basement shower....

We're just claiming early because I'm dealing with that; Penguin's working 10-12 hour shifts right now; deadline is approaching, and it's fairly clear the wagon momentum is squarely on us and nowhere else has traction.

We're the vig. Now go wagon actual scum. Knthnxbye.

@Mod Cabd Head VLA until plumber can diagnose, will have an update for you later today IRL

Yeah, this is town. I've claimed under less-than-optimal timing for claiming before (instead of at a low wagon size, I claimed early in the day, btw Prism and LUV know about this early claim firsthand). I feel scum would wait for the wagon to come to a head then claim, leaving less time for movement afterward.
Of course, fakeclaiming vig is stupid as scum anyway.

[Gamma Emerald]

Oh wow, that post contains zero reads or strances except set-up shit!

Not surprised

It included a sentence which is far more useful. Care to answer it?

*question

Gamma: Why would one want to note the meany's use of "commet"?

meany?
Anyway, it's more the fact both you and realeo misspelled it as commet which is odd. The proper word is "comet".

Oh, you're reading it as a genuine error on his part? Or both copying from the same source?

Huh, didn't really consider the second option.