Open 665 - Friends and Enemies - Game Over! Town Victory!!!

tojam2 · Post Post #800 (ISO) » Wed Jan 25, 2017 4:56 am

Quick VC:
Empking (L-5) - Lil Uzi Vert
Alisae (L-5) - havingfitz

havingfitz · Post Post #801 (ISO) » Wed Jan 25, 2017 5:51 am

In post 788, Alisae wrote:Still waiting for that case.

http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... 0#p8714680 for now.

mozamis · Post Post #802 (ISO) » Wed Jan 25, 2017 8:29 am

In post 796, Hawk wrote:Bleh that flip feels bad considering he stopped trying to defend himself.

yeah that "tell" needs to be binned, i had that in my last game. i got tired of being attacked as town and gave up. People will say "oh, never give up" but when you have peopl emindlessly tunnelling you, you can lose heart

mozamis · Post Post #803 (ISO) » Wed Jan 25, 2017 8:48 am

What ar epeoples thoughts on Ali/ She was town read for me most of Day 1, but her behaviour prelynch worried me

Empking · Post Post #804 (ISO) » Wed Jan 25, 2017 9:31 am

In post 795, Lil Uzi Vert wrote:
In post 785, Antihuman wrote:
In post 609, Lil Uzi Vert wrote:Don't mine BBT. I feel he's one of Kings scumbuddies after a reread.

VOTE: BBT

L-1
How did you figure they were related? How does BBT's flip affect your King read?
His 186, 291, and 488.

It doesn't affect it at all.

If BBT flipping scum would have strengthened your read on me then an intelectually honest person trying to determine people's alignments would be forced to decrease his read on me, btw.

Vote: Ali

- Nothing's changed on that front.

Lil Uzi Vert · Post Post #805 (ISO) » Wed Jan 25, 2017 12:43 pm

In post 804, Empking wrote:
In post 795, Lil Uzi Vert wrote:
In post 785, Antihuman wrote:
In post 609, Lil Uzi Vert wrote:Don't mine BBT. I feel he's one of Kings scumbuddies after a reread.

VOTE: BBT

L-1
How did you figure they were related? How does BBT's flip affect your King read?
His 186, 291, and 488.

It doesn't affect it at all.
If BBT flipping scum would have strengthened your read on me then an intelectually honest person trying to determine people's alignments would be forced to decrease his read on me, btw.

Vote: Ali
- Nothing's changed on that front.

I have no idea what you're trying to say.

Empking · Post Post #806 (ISO) » Wed Jan 25, 2017 12:58 pm

In post 805, Lil Uzi Vert wrote:
In post 804, Empking wrote:
In post 795, Lil Uzi Vert wrote:
In post 785, Antihuman wrote:
In post 609, Lil Uzi Vert wrote:Don't mine BBT. I feel he's one of Kings scumbuddies after a reread.

VOTE: BBT

L-1
How did you figure they were related? How does BBT's flip affect your King read?
His 186, 291, and 488.

It doesn't affect it at all.
If BBT flipping scum would have strengthened your read on me then an intelectually honest person trying to determine people's alignments would be forced to decrease his read on me, btw.

Vote: Ali
- Nothing's changed on that front.
I have no idea what you're trying to say.

Imagine that you think I am 6 on the scum metre and you think BBT is 50% to flip scum and if he does then I'll be an 8. If he flips town then I'll be a X.

6 = 8 * 0.5 + x * 0.5
6 = 4 + x * 0.5
2 = x * 0.5
2/0.5 = x
4 = x
x = 4

If the world consists of two possible states, and if the first state being true would cause me to be more scummy than you estimate my being at current in the uncertain world, then if in actuality we live in the second world then you ought to revise my scumminess down.

Empking · Post Post #807 (ISO) » Wed Jan 25, 2017 12:58 pm

This is literally basic mathematics.

Lil Uzi Vert · Post Post #808 (ISO) » Wed Jan 25, 2017 1:01 pm

Yeah I still don't understand.

The reasons I'm scum reading you have barely anything to do with BBT. I don't see why his flip would make me reconsider why I was scum reading you.

Empking · Post Post #809 (ISO) » Wed Jan 25, 2017 1:06 pm

In post 808, Lil Uzi Vert wrote:Yeah I still don't understand.

The reasons I'm scum reading you have barely anything to do with BBT. I don't see why his flip would make me reconsider why I was scum reading you.

Would BBT flipping scum have increased your read on me?

Grendel · Post Post #810 (ISO) » Wed Jan 25, 2017 1:46 pm

Reading now.

Hopefully I'll get caught up tonight! (I probably won't)

ConManMick · Post Post #811 (ISO) » Wed Jan 25, 2017 1:51 pm

He's asking was your read on him being scum not associative with BBT being scum, man
And, if it was, does it not make sense that he's less likely, based on your previous stance, to be scum now that BBT has flipped tooooown
Woooaah
But yeah if they're independent reads that's different
But idk maybe it would make more sense what he says
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Grendel · Post Post #812 (ISO) » Wed Jan 25, 2017 3:19 pm

Well, this game isn't moving very fast is it?

Caught up and my initial impressions are.

Lil Uzi Vert, -Grey-, havingfitz,

Hawk,

Alisae, ConManMick, Empking,

SnarkySnowman,

Antihuman, mozamis,

A lot of it is based off of gut, and personal tells.

There are several players whose positioning I can thoroughly justify. I suppose I'll work from there then recheck my gut reads to see if it all still adds up.

I'll have to get as much as I can done rn b/c tomorrow is gonna be hecka busy for me.

Alisae · Post Post #813 (ISO) » Wed Jan 25, 2017 3:19 pm

Who the fuck did you replace?

Grendel · Post Post #814 (ISO) » Wed Jan 25, 2017 3:20 pm

In post 799, tojam2 wrote:
To clarify, Grendel has replaced FancyPants and Empking has been prodded.

THe apathy I feel in this game is stifling

Alisae · Post Post #815 (ISO) » Wed Jan 25, 2017 3:21 pm

Oh didn't read. mybad. Go on with what you were doing.

Alisae · Post Post #816 (ISO) » Wed Jan 25, 2017 3:21 pm

btw I'll respond to stuff laterz.

Empking · Post Post #817 (ISO) » Wed Jan 25, 2017 3:38 pm

In post 814, Grendel wrote:
In post 799, tojam2 wrote:
To clarify, Grendel has replaced FancyPants and Empking has been prodded.
THe apathy I feel in this game is stifling

I as prodded within pretty much 24 hours of the flip when my internet was down. I'm not apathetic.

Alisae · Post Post #818 (ISO) » Wed Jan 25, 2017 3:41 pm

In post 801, havingfitz wrote:
In post 788, Alisae wrote:Still waiting for that case.
http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... 0#p8714680 for now.

A. Why would a mason counter claim?
B. That's NAI for me. Try again.
C. You're still holding my bad push against Grey against me? Okay well I thought it was scum!grey cuz he was playing more careful but then I remembered this was Grey's towngame so far.

Why am I townreading this again?

Alisae · Post Post #819 (ISO) » Wed Jan 25, 2017 3:42 pm

In post 804, Empking wrote:Vote: Ali - Nothing's changed on that front.

Reasons plz

Empking · Post Post #820 (ISO) » Wed Jan 25, 2017 3:45 pm

In post 819, Alisae wrote:
In post 804, Empking wrote:Vote: Ali - Nothing's changed on that front.
Reasons plz

Mason spec and a general lack of pro-town play.

Alisae · Post Post #821 (ISO) » Wed Jan 25, 2017 3:47 pm

Good reasons.
You wanna know who also has been lacking pro-town play?
Snowman and Mick.

-Grey- · Post Post #822 (ISO) » Wed Jan 25, 2017 3:51 pm

I'll focus more on this game in the not too distant future.

I have a lot going on right this second.

Empking · Post Post #823 (ISO) » Wed Jan 25, 2017 3:52 pm

In post 821, Alisae wrote:Good reasons.
You wanna know who also has been lacking pro-town play?
Snowman and Mick.

Also Ali.

And I like Mick; think he's town.

Alisae · Post Post #824 (ISO) » Wed Jan 25, 2017 3:59 pm

Fine.
What about Snowman?