Open 669 - Nightless Vengeful Mayhem [Game Over]

[havingfitz]

Why is this relative to determining Hans’ alignment at all?

It isn't at all. Did you think it was?

I dislike that dancing cow icon, it's in all my games it seems, and was sharing my thoughts on his avatar switch.

[havingfitz]

why am i a doofy head?

Say it to my large green pickle face.

You aren't...your previous avatar was.

[havingfitz]

Wth is that quote for Hans?

Not sure why moz is being defeatist.
Revan v/la seems convenient given his already lack of content.

He's got exams omg.

I don't doubt that he does. Sometimes v/LAs come at inconvenient times...unless you are providing the content promised before them...then they're convenient.

What's your read on Revan today?
Are you caught up in the game? Why no vote? Did yesterday's flips effect your read on Revan or anyone else?

[havingfitz]

U got any reads that aren't trash
@Fitz?

Which of my reads are trash?
While we're on the subject of reads....what are yours?
You seem to be suspect of Revan but you haven't done much about it.

[havingfitz]

Want to add that this is also a really easy comment to make and I see this is fluff posting.
Do you scum read Revan? If so y?

Do you really want to compare ISOs for fluff?

I'm still figuring out my thoughts for today. At the very least Revan is a residual suspect from my reads yesterday.

Have you finished your analysis of my and MOI's town play/games?

[karnos]

Vote Count 2.4

Superhans

(2): Revan, mozamis

Ultimate Despair

(1): lucca261

Havingfitz

(1): doomfeathers

Mozamis

(1): MagnaofIllusion

Not Voting

(6): havingfitz, Ultimate Despair, , wgeurts, Superhans, doomfeathers

With 9 alive, it takes 5 to lynch.

Nothing has changed since the last vote count, but it's been awhile.

(expired on 2017-02-04 09:00:01) until deadline.

[havingfitz]

Offline all day tomorrow....will try to post over the weekend but just to be safe...

v/LA until Monday, 30 Jan.

[Ultimate Despair]

...
Depends on the situation. Having 5 scumreads alone wouldn't be suspicious. Having 5 scumreads before hammering a town player is leaving your options open for the next day.

I did a post explaining my continued scumread on you. Disregarding them for "reasons" is scummy.

I explained it on 476 and on my vote post. I thought you guys were a possible partner for Sesq. Reading the catchup/hammer posts, I started to think you were scummy regardless of the flip. Your attitudde disregarding my posts only make it stronger.

Your stated reasons were:
- we'd disregarded your case (which wasn't really true)
- we had a bunch of scum reads (which wasn't really indicative)

So if that was the extent of your case, it was objectively poor, and if there was more to it you hadn't been particularly clear about why. So yes, being dismissive of your case seemed pretty reasonably appropriate

You'd also raised the point about us ignoring mozami's responses in 476, which seems odd given how much we've talked to/about mozami. What in particular did you think we'd missed or dismissed?

Like, overall I look at your push on us and it seems more like a read in search of reasons (especially given the strange continuation of the read when originally it was to some degree dependent on Sesq being scum) than a read that has meaningful substance behind it, and I'd like to see you put in the time to actually substantiate and demonstrate what you claim to be seeing if this is something you really feel strongly about.

-M

[Ultimate Despair]

^stated reasons in 522

[Ultimate Despair]

Is there some obvious answer I'm missing? Because it seems kind of stupid for a theoretical scum team to just up and out themselves just for the sake of hurrying along a pre-LYLO wagon when there isn't any particularly obvious need to do so.

My main point was that the fact that his wagon is going nowhere seems like he might be scum. Scum obviously prefer not to bus if possible. If he was town, scum could just get a quick lynch. Then with an early DK tomorrow they would be in a really strong position ( I havent done the maths) and they could hope to WIFOM the mislycnh. Plus they would be so dominant all it would take is one mis vote from town?

OF COURSE I COULD BE WRONG. But with the (more important point) that Hans looks pretty scummy, it seemed relevant.

It's certainly true that scum is in a better position given a mislynch, but outing themselves over it seems like a bizarre strategy, since trading one mislynch today for say one scum lynch tomorrow seems like a win for town and a loss for scum, since they don't have a night kill (one of the nice things about a nightless game)

I'm also not sure about why a particular wagon going nowhere is indicative. No wagons are really going anywhere, in part because the game has slid into inactivity (and I"ll admit to being an offender in taht regard, all the more so since I'll probably be out until the weekend after this), so I guess I don't see why, other than the fact that you have a scum read, that a wagon going nowhere is itself meaningful.

-M

[mozamis]

any chance of people playing this game? Or is it just up to me, ultimate, hans and magna?
COME ON WAKE UP TOWN

[doomfeathers]

@MOD: I'll be V/LA until 10:00 CST tomorrow.

[Superhans]

IV got Moz as suspect scum because I feel herreads are not genuine at all, and I think she may have deliberately chosen to evade multiple questions towards her which fits with her being scum.

Also I don't like her push on me but don't want to make my read OMGUS so won't elaborate.

[Superhans]

any chance of people playing this game? Or is it just up to me, ultimate, hans and magna?
COME ON WAKE UP TOWN

I do rate this comment though.
+1

[Superhans]

@MOD: I'll be V/LA until 10:00 CST tomorrow.

[MagnaofIllusion]

VOTE: Ultimate Despair

At this stage I am seeing little movement onto Moz (who is still scum) and UD is another scum-read and therefore a better place for my vote since it is a more viable wagon currently. Both are guilty of ignoring direct questions to them that I have posted and their soft back and forth without voting each other could certainly be weak distancing action.

@Everone on the following vote-count

Not Voting (6): havingfitz, Ultimate Despair, , wgeurts, Superhans, doomfeathers

This far into the day why are you not voting?

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@Moz

– why have your ignored the request from Hans I quoted in 619 on multiple a occasions? Is it because as scum it is too difficult a questions to answer?

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@UD

– you need to answer this right away …

1. Why did you call Moz a scum lean Day 1?
2. Why is the same head “looking at Moz” as if it didn’t already have a read from Day 1?

And I do not want to see any explanation that “That was my other head”. You are one slot. You get treated as one slot and attempting to foist off hydra dissonance to avoid pointed questions isn’t going to fly.

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[mozamis]

@ Magna - Hans partner? I've given my townblock numerous times. So i guess its anyone not in that. Was thinking Rev, but he was looking better.
I dont know is the short answer, but in the end i could prob vote for anyone not in my townblock.

[MagnaofIllusion]

Was thinking Rev, but he was looking better.

How is Rev "looking better"? Please elaborate since I think based on his Day 2 posts don't given anything alignment moving at all IMO.

[Superhans]

VOTE: Moz

[MagnaofIllusion]

VOTE: Moz

Where was this the whole time I've been wanting a wagon on Moz? I mean you had me looking like this ...



VOTE: Moz

[Superhans]

@ Magna - Hans partner? I've given my townblock numerous times. So i guess its anyone not in that. Was thinking Rev, but he was looking better.
I dont know is the short answer, but in the end i could prob vote for anyone not in my townblock.

U do realise I'm pushing for Revans lynching. Unless u think we're doing scum theatre in which case I'd love to know why.

[Superhans]

Lol sorry MOI, I think Moz's latest posts are sketchy, don't like her push on me earlier today either.

[Superhans]

For the record I still think Revan is scum, but it's a wastr to keep a vote on a VLA player.

[MagnaofIllusion]

For the record I still think Revan is scum, but it's a wastr to keep a vote on a VLA player.

It is only a waste to vote a player you think is scum while they are V/LA if you aren't getting traction on a wagon from other players. V/LA is not some magical shield wiping away the rest of their play.

[Superhans]

@ Magna - Hans partner? I've given my townblock numerous times. So i guess its anyone not in that. Was thinking Rev, but he was looking better.
I dont know is the short answer, but in the end i could prob vote for anyone not in my townblock.

+1 MOI's where the fuck does ur town read on Revan come from?