Large Normal 201 - House of Harmony - At The End(GAME OVER)

[gerryoat]

Oh i forgot about Jae's game. But, the other game I was n1'd how did you even read me when I didn't even post that much? Also Hydra's are different lol

[gerryoat]

How about we stop dicking around and implying that I should be defending another man's actions in my slot as opposed to defending my own -- which no one seems to care about

Pretty sure no one is voting you, just out your reads. If they are good, they will change their perception.

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Alisae. What is your frogger read, you thought they were scum yesterday

I wanna flip the following nerds:
drealmerz/Yoshi, Zach, PV.

I still do SR Kuror0 but I dunno what flipping him would exactly tell us.

pedit: Garry I'm not sure on my Frogger read currently.

oh wait.
Frogger was scum on the wagon too.

I wanna flip the following nerds:
drealmerz/Yoshi, Zach, PV.

I still do SR Kuror0 but I dunno what flipping him would exactly tell us.

pedit: Garry I'm not sure on my Frogger read currently.

Oh really????? Because you just called him scum 12 hours ago. What changed????????????

Well within those 12 hours I may or may have not have hit my head.
nullscum is still scum.
It's him pointin out the slip which wierds me out.

CAN WE TALK ABOUT THIS SEQUENCE OF POSTS PLEASE

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Garrybote if you wanna talk about it then say something about it lmao.
that's just an excuse to look busy.

I am talking about it.

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You are obvscum Kuror0 sir.

You didn't even vote him when he said the same thing I said, and now he's just starting to be obvs scum when i pointed it out.

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I think you're backtracking depending on who is talking the most at the moment whenever you give reads about someone

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sloth is town imo.

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wtf is a Conciserizer

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Nice distraction tho, Alisae. I laughed

[gerryoat]

Doesn't sound normal either
PEDIT sniped me Clumsy

hi we need to talk. Can you explain why i'm maf to you. From what i understand it's the reaction test and meta right? anything else?

[gerryoat]

Zach, conman is not lynchable. I mean it was explained. But besides that, I think those reads are decent

[gerryoat]

LOL KUROR THAT'S NOT EVEN THE FOUNDATION I LAYED TO SET UP MY JUMP ON YOU.

so basically, you're saying. you did lay down the foundation. But he pointed out the wrong one?

[gerryoat]

let's hope gerry is dead by then!

I pray that if you're town, that after this game, you will get better reads lol

[gerryoat]

cause someone replaced gamma, i forgot who

[gerryoat]

Jae can you tell me your read on transcend, based on past experience

[gerryoat]

which reminds me you said I'm from EM... I'm not lol. I started maf here, went to play some forum maf there, hated the toxicity I saw around the place (specifically it was Jeff railing on Impo that made me give up on ever liking the community), played a bit of chat maf and a bit in the games lobby with Impo and shamu :3

lmao yeah jefff does that. but yeah i dont really play there anymore, too much toxic. if i play i just troll games. but i meant someone else who played em

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^

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Why is it scummy to hide information from the town Clums?

pedit: Garry just direct me to the post lmao.
Also I'm starting to think you're town and your frustration is genuine so.
UNVOTE:

Alisae is town. If Alisae is scum there's no reason to just back off of Gerry while there's an L-3 wagon on him.

^ lol

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sloth is town imo.

HOLY SHIT WE AGREE ON SOMETHING

dude i said this yesterday, stop posturing

[gerryoat]

"OMG WE AGREE FINALLY" when I said that yesterday. you should know that's how i felt about him already

[gerryoat]

Transcend if i'm your big tr, why didn't you defend me at all when there was a wagon forming on me that was obviously flawed

[gerryoat]

How is it a mountain? You think any comment against you is like the biggest thing ever

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Alisae. What is your frogger read, you thought they were scum yesterday

I wanna flip the following nerds:
drealmerz/Yoshi, Zach, PV.

I still do SR Kuror0 but I dunno what flipping him would exactly tell us.

pedit: Garry I'm not sure on my Frogger read currently.

oh wait.
Frogger was scum on the wagon too.

I wanna flip the following nerds:
drealmerz/Yoshi, Zach, PV.

I still do SR Kuror0 but I dunno what flipping him would exactly tell us.

pedit: Garry I'm not sure on my Frogger read currently.

Oh really????? Because you just called him scum 12 hours ago. What changed????????????

Well within those 12 hours I may or may have not have hit my head.
nullscum is still scum.
It's him pointin out the slip which wierds me out.

CAN WE TALK ABOUT THIS SEQUENCE OF POSTS PLEASE

frogger why not?

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why not comment on this*

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Transcend if i'm your big tr, why didn't you defend me at all when there was a wagon forming on me that was obviously flawed

WTF Why should he?

??? If i'm convinced someone is town, I would defend???? WOuld you not?????? lol

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How is it a mountain? You think any comment against you is like the biggest thing ever

Because I was making a joke response and you turned it into something serious.

hard to tell sarcasm on the internet

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yeah, jae might be scum. figured since he went into the iron slot.

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Transcend if i'm your big tr, why didn't you defend me at all when there was a wagon forming on me that was obviously flawed

WTF Why should he?

??? If i'm convinced someone is town, I would defend???? WOuld you not?????? lol

I would explain why they are town. Is that considered someone else defending you?

yes

[gerryoat]

What has Jae done that's scummy to you?

vote obvious town. but maybe they just cant read transcend as well as i can lol.

[gerryoat]

Says the person who was scumreading Trans alongside me in Pantheon maf.

link that one i dont remember

[gerryoat]

ohhhhhhhhhhhh lmao. i guess that's true, but i scumread him as town. not the other way around

[gerryoat]

Zach, watch out. Frogger will be super defensive once he sees you voted him

he'll prob vote you too lol

damn dude im psychic

[gerryoat]

nope but i got one

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Yeah, which is kinda why I asked him the question. But, its been kinda his mood all game, which he doesn't do much as scum.

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why is gerry not dead yet?

cause your reads are bad

[gerryoat]

Dreal didn't you part your vote on Alisae for like 150 pages. what's your read on him now?

[gerryoat]

if transcend flips scum vig me. im that confident. if he flips town vig in those pushing on him

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or you could not lynch obvious town. your choice

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I pretty much only post from phone

you realize that the start of this game i was on vacation and could only post from phone. Which is why i didnt read the setup details. I just saw transcend joined and there was 1 spot left so i thought i'd join. and that's part of the reason you scumread me yes?

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FINALLY ANOTHER GAME WITH TRANSCEND. (i hope our distancing is good lol)

but really i havent read anything. i'm about to go to ihop. i'm still on vacation until the 11th now, just to let you know my activity will be spotty until then

Hey mod gonna be on vla until 11th sorry guys. I'll try to read this tonight

@MOD

if both scum teams kill the same person does the kill not go through like fire and ice or will they die

wait there is 2 maf teams?

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I need conmanmick to stop being drunk and actually read and understand where i'm coming from

[gerryoat]

@conmanmick read those quotes.

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How the hell do you team read frogger and cloud?

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Alisae, i think i might end up voting you cause you really have just been sheeping any vote that gets momentum.

[gerryoat]

Yeah I did. Given the sheer number of pages, I did not see that
Also I am not drunk(yet) so fuck you

lol. ok while you're here, any other reason you scumread me.

[gerryoat]

I dont think he'd bus when he just subbed in. Unless he was 100% sure that he would die or that neither of them would be lynched

[gerryoat]

I'm waiting for you to tell me why I should be on the Transcend wagon.
You asked me why aren't I on it.
So I'm asking you why I should be on it.

Elena vote Gerry. That's where the wagon is and both Gerry and Transcend are scum.

Sell me on scum!Trans.

Trans: Let's vote Zach!
Zach: Hey Trans, lets run up Elena!
Trans: Ok!

Also I'm okay with voting Trans now
VOTE: Trans

Sheeping Zach who you JUST VOTED is sus as fuck.

he was setting that up for a bit

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Yeah I did. Given the sheer number of pages, I did not see that
Also I am not drunk(yet) so fuck you

lol. ok while you're here, any other reason you scumread me.

Still don't like the interactions with Transcend and Cloud
Still don't like the capslock rage explosion
Still don't like trying to sidestep suspicion onto Fro99er

1.) Which interactions inspecific with cloud and transcend? You realize they are my friends off site? which is why i'm gonna talk to them differently.

2.)I do that, literally all the time. I can link you games if you want?

3.) It was just a passing comment trying to process the kill. You dont scumread kuroro and he said the SAME EXACT thing. even before i did.

[gerryoat]

Oh yeah someone asked for updated reads
{Clumsy, me}
{Iron, Trans,

Garry

, Frogger, Pere}
{Elena, Mick, Manuel, Pep}
{Yoshi, Cabd}
{Gamma,

kuror0}

{Drealmerz}
{Jaack, Pine}

Clum do you like this readlist?

pedit: Fine, I'll settle for that Trans
VOTE: Jaack

ok 3 kills. which one was the vig shot? probably Pine?

p-edit: nvm

Pine was shot by jaack

I guess white scumteam killed cloud which leads me to believe one of the people cloud was pushing IS white scum which leads me to fro9 being a strong scum suspect for today.

p-edit: I bring NKA back on the table.

I know it doesn't necessarily mean that. I never said omg fro9 100% killed cloud. I'm just saying hey there is a chance. just 1 more factor to add, not the defining factor

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@conmanmick

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ignore the alisae part, but thats why i started scumreading alisae for ignoring kuroro doing it but jumping on me for doing it after when there was pressure on me

[gerryoat]

Not sure which comments you are referring to pls give links or numbers thank you kindly

PEDIT uh what

PEDIT again hey I'm not going near Alisae I have never played with someone less readable (legible?) In all the time I've been on this site

PEDIT again again for real

http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... er_sort=Go

read this whole iso lol. its me capsing. I was wrong BUT STILL

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cause someone replaced gamma, i forgot who

Cloud did

1.) Which interactions inspecific with cloud and transcend? You realize they are my friends off site? which is why i'm gonna talk to them differently.

I feel like you'd remember who your off site friend would have replaced and this is just "playing dumb" because cloud is your scumbuddy. Would also make sense why cloud neighborized you after Yoshi's PT Cop claim, as a way of giving you both "outs" should Yoshi check you.

or you know. there had been like 5 replacements. i'm not gonna remember the person before

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Also YOSHI TR ME. HE HAS NO REASON TO CHECK ME. God, its like talking to a brick wall. I said that 10 times already

[gerryoat]

I didn't at first.

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gerryoat actually doing something in a large way makes me wary of him

you make me sound useless as town. this game was exciting cause 2 maf teams lol, i've never been in one of these before

PV is doing it in a way that shows belief in what he's saying.

how? he didnt even read the last 80 pages. which is why he thought manuel scumread me

ahahahaha Nahdia said this @gerry

LOL shoulda known.

gerryoat actually doing something in a large way makes me wary of him

you make me sound useless as town. this game was exciting cause 2 maf teams lol, i've never been in one of these before

Doesn't EM have multiball? I kind of thought it did.

yes but no one ever plays those setups. i dont know of a good one at all

Wait fk. JaeReed subbed in for Iron right? THey might be maf

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nice try to misrep me

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leap harder next time frog

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Yes, that was me remembering.

AND BECAUSE IRON WAS MY SCUMREAD. U DUMB FROG LOL

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I was talking to Jae normally then said, "oh wait he's prob scum"

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You also said you were willing to give cloud a pass because they replaced in, but if you're off site friends wouldn't that want to give you more incentive to figure them out earlier since you have a longer history and presumably have developed reads on cloud.

didnt think they'd die. I had a null read on him. Cloud is harder to read for me than transcend. Which is why he tried to neighbor me after i said I null read him. The day I figured was coming to a close.

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@Gerry

Regardless of Jae I still think you planted that pretending you didn't know about cloud

You even commented on cloud's replace in

You also said you were willing to give cloud a pass because they replaced in, but if you're off site friends wouldn't that want to give you more incentive to figure them out earlier since you have a longer history and presumably have developed reads on cloud.

I mean, you are using that appeal with transcend for your read on him.

And with Jae's slot, who you also have EM history with, you threw shade instead of giving time.

because gamma hadnt posted in days. I had no read on gamma slot. I had a read on iron slot.

[gerryoat]

Iron and Pine are good vig shots, not frog imo

I guess we should wait for jack to reply with his 3. I think Iron and Pine are great shots. with someone else

I think my list would be

1.) Iron still
2.) ConManMick still
3.) dreal after seeing that iso

I didn't say he was my biggest scumread

If he wasn't your biggest scum read why did you vote him and get so upset and ALL CAPS about him

And if he isn't your biggest scum read who is and why aren't you voting that person?

Because you've admitted Yoshi isn't your highest scum read.

Answer

Iron is my biggest. Iron isn't going to happen. I've tried to get my top 4 lynched, they arent happening. I've tried this whole time. Are you blind

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shoot: transcend

did you even read the link. since you're prob town i need you to actually not misunderstand me.

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oh thanks for reminding me. Had to talk to an amphibians

VOTE: Alisae

[gerryoat]

2 PR claims and my tr are voting you.

bunch of possible scums voting you. so......

[gerryoat]

2 PR claims and my tr are voting you.

bunch of possible scums voting Transcend. so......

fixed

[gerryoat]

lmao

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you guys are bad lol. letting maf run the town again

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Macro level vca suggests that both scum teams d1 had no qualms about Ali being the leading wagon and possible apathy lynch.

where?? he was never in lynch range day 1

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and who are both scum teams

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yeah dude, i know.

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clumsy, no offense but you're the one legit 100% confirmed town here. you need to lead.

[gerryoat]

maf is obviously running this game so far

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sniped

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Like, don't misunderstand me. My POV on Transcend was made earlier. But there is min 2 scum on that wagon, which completely changes my perspective.

What is your read on transcend scumreading your slot all game

[gerryoat]

Jae why did you ignore my questions

[gerryoat]

Alisae and Fro99 are obvscum I can't believe votes went into Transcend for that

Can you vote Alisae then? :3

Also this guy is scum for the PT check on drealmerz.

It's either a fakeclaim or his real role. I don't care which but he's scum and I'll direct you to drealmerz first post in the game to prove why he would have checked him if it's a real role as scum.

Please do.

i'm also curious on this

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Macro level vca suggests that both scum teams d1 had no qualms about Ali being the leading wagon and possible apathy lynch.

where?? he was never in lynch range day 1

and who are both scum teams

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Alisae - [4] drealmerz7, Ramcius, Indigo, BigYoshiFan

So: Dreal who you think is town based on the yoshi scumread, Mason, Elena who is voting your wagon, BYF

What's wrong with this wagon fypov Jae?

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Dreal's first post was a vote on alisae who said he was a mason.

Yoshi was mason hunting dreal. He wouldn't need to mason hunt as town.

Jaack is also right that it makes no sense to check someone within the vig pool. What if Jaack had shot Dreal instead of pine?

>mason hunting

>He already outed who he thought was mason yesterday.

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Catching up....

So Clumsy claimed mason? Yeah, not exactly buying it without a second partner. Even with two scumteams, they can't coordinate which mason to kill, so they could easily both end up shooting the same one, which would be a big bonus for town.

So yeah, I'd prefer the 'partner' to claim today. And I'd still prefer a Clumsy lynch.

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That being said, I'm not overly confident that town will agree with me and lynch Clumsy.
My number 2 lynch at this point would probably be drealmerz. You know how old drealmerz' alisae vote is? Post 5. Dude is coasting on reads from the beginning of the game and doesn't really seem to be making any effort to figuring anything out, excusing it with a preference for observation on D1.

As far as the yoshi wagon, I've had mixed feelings there all game. I thought that his pursuit of pepcho looked like scum trying to trip up lynchbait and his ironstove vote is pretty bad too...

But I think it's notably townie that he's concerned himself with players who were kind of off the radar like kuror and drealmerz. I feel like town are far more likely to take deeper looks at relatively ignored slots, so I'm hesitant on scumreading him because of that.

Not sure if this was addressed already but surely after this amount of time if Clumsy was fake claiming mason it'd be readily apparent. Only one of the actual Masons would have to counterclaim.

Alright nevermind. Also, I think I found Clumsy's mason.

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Frogger, if he was mason hunting, he already found 2 masons from his point of view. Why would he look for more masons when there could have only been 2

[gerryoat]

I will agree that it made no sense to check someone in the vig pool tho. That's the good point you have. But the other doesnt make sense

[gerryoat]

Alisae and Fro99 are obvscum I can't believe votes went into Transcend for that

Can you vote Alisae then? :3

Also this guy is scum for the PT check on drealmerz.

It's either a fakeclaim or his real role. I don't care which but he's scum and I'll direct you to drealmerz first post in the game to prove why he would have checked him if it's a real role as scum.

Please do.

i'm also curious on this

That was me telling you to look at it. Stop being lazy and click on page one yourself. It's not hard.

I thought you were talking about something else cause like... i mean clumsy scumread dreal. you can't honestly think they were masons together.

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Wait it might have been frogger who scumread dreal. either way, i dont see that being a serious case. but yoshi, why did you check someone in the vig pool?

[gerryoat]

I thought so too, but i can't find it, but i quick skimmed cause im about to leave for a sec. brb. if you can find it, quote it please

[gerryoat]

i think clumsy should decide vig shots.

BYF who were you all considering checking

[gerryoat]

{Transcend, Gerryoat}

{Elena Fisher, Pine}

{Jaack, PV, Alisae}

{LemonTree, drealmerz7, Gamma Emerald, Ramcius/Clumsy}

{PenguinPower}

{Manuel87, kuror0}

{ConManMick, ironstove, Pepchoninga}

I stole your rainbow reads Transcend. XD

I've stopped at post 2000, and honestly, I don't remember much of it.
Fro99er has become my strongest TR.
Gerry and Transcend have slipped below, I want to see more discussion from them.
Alisae still strong.
Mick and kuror0 still scumreads.
ironstove looking slightly better.
Pepchoninga still a scumread.
Dunno how I feel about the wagon on Jaack, I think pressure on someone could be better used on someone else but... pressure is pressure.

these are your latest reads you gave day 1. why not checkk kuroro, i believe he woulda been your biggest scumread based on it. and was not in vig range

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I like the idea of me deciding vig shots, but I'd like a little input from everyone else too (taken with a grain of salt).

My list that I would like is [PeregrineV, Drealmerz7, and Zach].

take out pv imo

[gerryoat]

jack did you read my reply to you ages ago

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idk PV posts really well then jus vanishes. hes on VLA rn tho

[gerryoat]

why would he check me im in a neighborhood lol

[gerryoat]

jack did you read my reply to you ages ago

Yeah but it's been a while, I'll go hunt it down.

4843 right? Well you also endorse clumsy's plan for me to vig pep in 3759 after my claim. You twice expressed interest in vigging pep and did not show significant resistance to his lynch. Shading elena for supporting that lynch looks woefully inconsistent to me.

@clumsy - Yoshi is the best choice, but I would also like to lynch gerry. I think there's a good chance that drealmerz is scum, but it obviously makes more sense to lynch Yoshi first.

Out of his 3 options, I liked the 3rd one the best. I don't think there is anythign wrong with that. He was giving a list of options so i chose what i thought was best. Also I did resist his lynch, I'll quote. But at the end, I was ok with lynch anyone but my TRs like i said over and over.

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If I realy thought pep was a good vig, I would have put him in my vig pool

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@Jaack the only times i wanted him vigged or shot was if you were scum because of the way it looked like he defended you. Look at all the times i called him prob town.

VOTE: Pepchoninga

Can we do Yoshi instead? I think pep is just bad town.

I'm actually finding myself agreeing with the second part of this.

i only said that like 50 pages ago

ME!!!!!!!!! XDDD, Transcend, PV, and tbh idk who else I'd put up there. All Alise, Pine and BYF dropped. Kuroro had a bad post and vote but he explained better after, elena isnt here Jaaack is nullish, pep is meh. I just TR Transcend and PV.

Scumreads: Iron, Conman, Clumsy (wont lynch tho cause he's a mason claim), Dreal.

You're asking for a readlists list and I want to see why Pep towntold so that could change my reads list
I don't see what's so bad about me asking for the reasons before I out my reads list

never said he towntold, he just looks like lynchbait at times.

so out reads list plz

If this was epicmafia i'd vote you for that, as most times, it's maf that says "if i flip town" but I will turn over a new leaf and just lower you on my list for now. please vote yoshi, because the people pushing for a pep lynch there isnt even enough votes for it

If jack flips scum, pep is turbo lynched tomorrow

If jack flips scum, vig should shoot pep if we have one

Sneaking a post on the clock

Let me get this straight.

We're lynching pepcho today.

I get a list of three to shoot from.

Without my claim, I would have shot drealmerz, so I would obviously like him to be on the list.

Shooting yoshi is a dumb thing because duh.

My strongest townreads at this point are ironstove, cloud, and transcend, so if you put one of them in my list I outright will not shoot them.

Anyone else is fair game at this point.

Come up with a list town.

PEDIT - I think I've played games shorter than the pedit I just experience.

Come up with a 3 then. If dreal is 1 who are 2 others? Pine seemed to be in a lot of lists, so 1 more?

Do y'all buy pep's claim, and at this point, is it worth risking the mislynch to get some extra info and put a stop to this monster of a day one? I mean, we have another 8 days or something, right? Don't exactly have a problem with using them.

I think he's prob town, but i mean. at this point. this has gone on too long. and even if we wagon someone else we might out another claim and be in the same position.

anyway, i think he'd fish as maf. but w/e

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This is all beside the point. You showed on multiple occasions that you were comfortable with pep being lynched or shot. I don't have a problem with that in isolation - it's the fact that you've subsequently tried to use your pep townread to benefit yourself and shade elena when you never looked like you were seriously trying to stop his lynch. Like in all those quotes you never seriously tried to prevent him from getting killed. You occasionally called him lynchbait, but you never make any significant effort to stop the lynch and end up accepting it.

And you don't get any credit for not including pep in your viggroup when it had basically been decided that pep was that days lynch.

like talkin to a brick wall. I was talking to Elena directly before about pep and I told her it was a mislynch before. Which is why i told her directly that "well I told you so" if you need the exact quotes to both i can show you

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I could care less since I'm probably getting lynched

If i get lynched idc about my wincon anymore so I'd ask for someone fun to talk to in the dead pt to be vigged.

I don't see how this attitude is pro-town.

This 100%

That only comes from scum

you dont know transcend, he says that on the regular. I say that as town all the time, i can link games lol

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I'd be OK with lynching Elena, but I would much rather lynch Alisae

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honestly idk what votes are but we shouldnt vote until we have a vig list at least set in stone. also a check list

[gerryoat]

honestly idk what votes are but we shouldnt vote until we have a vig list at least set in stone. also a check list

That's what these "votes" are for. XD
Care to contribute?

I think the vig depends on who we are lynching and whether or not they flip scum.

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Yoshi is town. If he isn't he will fall eventually

i kinda get this thought process. If he's real, maf can be pushing his lynch thinking: A.) He's on the other maf team. B.) He's a threat to them.

They eventually need to kill him regardless of the scenario. So why not let maf do it?

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If we don't lynch him, vig alisae

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Look at that scum wagon on Alisae holy shit lol

yeah dude the confirmed mason leading the scum wagon. with another claimed PR and 2 obvs towns and myself.

[gerryoat]

i still think clumsy should come up with the vig shots and check.

[gerryoat]

lol XD XD XDDDDDD

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bump

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damn i thought it was a page top. im bad at this

[gerryoat]

{gerryoat!!!!}

xDDD, I know i'm triggering ppl doing this

{Transcend, PeregrineV}

{Alise, Pine, BigYoshiFan}

{Kuror0, Elena Fisher}

{Jaaack, Pepchoninga}

{Gamma Emerald, Lemon Tree, drealmerz7, PenguinPower}

{Clumsy, ConManMick}

{Manuel87}

{Ironstove}

Here!!!!

Gerryoat's was pretty BS too.

That bottom four he had is gross

not my fault masons are scummy. at least i can team read right

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Frogger no matter how much shade you throw at me i'm not gonna be lynched today, but i like how you continue to try and setup a mislynch on me.

[gerryoat]

Transcend what is your care level for this game

[gerryoat]

hey dont lynch anyone until clumsy comes back with vig targets

[gerryoat]

say the vig pool pls

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sorry it's late lol

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Not gonna vote Transcend btw. I'm still pretty convinced he's town based on how he usually plays as maf. There is a chance he doesn't care about this game at all and is just bsing it but, idk. I really feel he's town here. If he's maf, then he fooled me, but i don't think so.

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make a check pool. so he doesnt check the vigged target lol

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i misread that, but i think people were waiting for vig/check pool. and i dont think he's claimed anyway.

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happy birthday PV!

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@Jaack besides yoshi what other scumreads you have right now?

Gerry is number two. After that there's nothing I'm super confident in (I honestly have no clue how to read drealmerz with yoshi clearing but still managing to scum read him. But any lynch there requires yoshi to die first)

I think both transcend and alisae are both town, but I feel more confidently in my read on transcend, so I'd probably prefer an alisae lynch, but I don't really want to lynch either.

you scumread me for the worst reason. I explained the scenarios in which i wanted pep vigged and that was if you were maf

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Pep is lynch bait. Someone put a note on his back that says "LYNCH ME PLS xDDD"

vote iron instead

Pep today Iron tomorrow.

So you're trying to get a potential mislynch? You simply agreed with my statement

You're asking for a readlists list and I want to see why Pep towntold so that could change my reads list
I don't see what's so bad about me asking for the reasons before I out my reads list

never said he towntold, he just looks like lynchbait at times.

so out reads list plz

If jack flips scum, vig should shoot pep if we have one

He says he's ok with lynching anyone, but then tries to start a counter wagon

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Pepchoninga -

[7] Manuel87, Elena Fisher, Alisae, Fro99er, Pine, ConManMick, Jaack

This makes me want to cry tears of joy

dont you fos frog. what do you think about him being on the wagon

I already said he's most likely town. If he's scum, then umm. idk. He's been quite a polarizing figure this game. I would say you're town and Prob alisae is town if he does flip scum.

Wait, Elena not Alisae lol

Pretty clear scumteam trying to frame me for that push when Pep was scummy as shit and also pushing clum the day before.

Ya, i only said he was lynchbait like 20 times in this thread and you still pushed on him.

@Jack this was all me trying to tell Elena all day 1 that pep was a bad lynch. The whole time. At the end I said Elena would be town if he did flip scum but i was doubtful of it. Which is why when she said something about pep I basically told her "i told you so" I wasnt trying to throw shade at her, it was me talking to her the whole time and then showing her that i was right and she was wrong

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Jae why are you trying to reason with someone you think is mafia.

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dont think transcend was in the vig list was he?

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also i'm pretty sure jack wont vig his TR

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PV is worries me that you're active in the beginning of every day but then you just vanish.

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I personally would love a dreal shot. but, pls follow the vig pool since he's confirmed town.

Gerry please. I just did. [Zach, PeregrineV, Transcend/Alisae]

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If we lynch Alisae I'd shoot Zach out of those.

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Jae your reads are uncharacteristically bad this game, you have to be mafia here.

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VOTE: Elena

w/e

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when my reads are good i get lynched for it

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lol, idk. I still don't like how you've been so easily swayed on every lynch once someone's name is brought up.

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there was a difference. you seemed to just sheep because you were confirmed pr. this one you seemingly tried to setup like "convince me" "oh im just gonna trust ___ and vote ___"

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I still feel like you were being swayed too easily and brought it up multiple times. others obviously felt the same

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I explained the difference. It looked like you'd set up a lot. And I quoted and bumped when I saw it over and over again.

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I don't think I've been wrong besides the pep wagon

i mean, what is there to be right about that you know of? Didn't you also want Pine who flipped town. And you didn't scumread cloud. So wtf are you talking baout that you havent been wrong

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Gerry/Zach/???

yes i want my partner vigged, you caught me

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Elena called me scum with Transcend then says I'm scum with Zach, Her whole case of me being scum is "guilty by association with transcend" And now she has me on a different scumteam than Transcend. She's BSing.

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Answer my question and I'll answer yours.

I already said that you're not a big scumread of mine. Which is why i wanted to ask you more questions.

I thought you said he was with transcend

I have you as guilty by association gerry

I have you as guilty by association gerry

??????????????? how is that by association. do you fking scumread me or no. yes. or. no.

To make it more clear not a lot of what you did I found scummy but when I think of scum transcend you're the most likely partner

I have you as guilty by association gerry

??????????????? how is that by association. do you fking scumread me or no. yes. or. no.

I thought that was clear yes I scumread you I just gave you the reason why

Look at this interaction, she says I'm maf with transcend and thats her WHOLE REASON for scumreading me. But as soon as Frogger said he thinks I'm with zach she changes it up so she can push a mislynch on me soon.

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I'm alredy voting her lol

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nah frog, i'm a psychic. i called that one out.

frog did you just read my interaction with elena. do you not think she tried setting up. considering she still thinks im scum when her only reasons was cause she said i had to be teamed with transcend. and no she doesnt even have us on a team

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Yea i attempt to stop wagons I think are on town

its a very unorthodox strategy. I learned it on town of salem in 1993

Lmao

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Trans I'm gonna trust you on this one:

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Yeah I've read it.

It seems to me that it primarily hinges on elena not actually believing that pep is scum. I don't really see a reason to believe this based on her iso.

did you read my case? that isnt the reason i think she's scum

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Zach can you give me a list of your reads again.

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If anyone is scum from Gerry interactions, it's you.

why? it's because i can read him well? maybe because I know him offsite that you find my convos with him weird, and maybe that's why.

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transcend content has kinda fell from day 1, but i still think he's town

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ok but when he flips town, then what? Who is your next push? lol

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i mean there are 6 mafs prob each with a PR. so, it's possible for us to have some good PRs

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i mean there are 6 mafs prob each with a PR. so, it's possible for us to have some good PRs

How do you know there are 6 mafs?

Why would each have a PR?

Because that's what everyone has been saying 3 mafs on each. and i'm guessing each has a PR if there are masons, vig, PT cop and potential other PRs.

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I can't find it. I remember talking about it early on and then i remember dreal saying there was 4 on each team and i said it was too much and from there i assumed 3. I dont see why it would be 3 on one and 2 on the other, that seems unfair

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LOOOOL FROGGY MCMAFIA. what a bus by frog on transcend tho. I WAS RIGHT FROG KILLED CLOUD FOR SURE CAUSE HE WAS PUSHING

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If I had to make a pool of 3, I'd say Zach, Elena, Gerry, but that depends on Jae's results, and would simply be PoE. The problem is that we have no way of confirming Jae now with Yoshi dead.

que???? you think me and frogger are a team? or you think cloud is on a team with me?

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VOTE: Jaack

GUESS WHO YOUR REAL VIG WAS, BITCHES!!!

???????????? LMAO WHY DIDNT YOU SAY SO YESTERDAY. we coulda lynched jaack then

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Hey Gerry I think you're town. Forgive me

eh. i dont think you're scum with transcend. you could be black tho. but, i wanna reread stuff based on froggers flip

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Well, at least I was right about PV being town. Sorry about the Transcend read. I really thought he was town.

Also shouldnt we target White maf? If you think about it, if we get the last white maf, we stop 2 kills from happening. which increases our odds.

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Garry is black scum with Elena.

i wanted elena lynched over transcend. how are we teamed. also cloud neighbored me to buddy me

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wait. you vigged cloud, jae?

why would white or black team kill pine? wasnt he in the original vig pool?

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ok yeah, he softed hard and i didnt realize, sorry. i guess so far my reads have been shit this game lol. except the PV read i guess.

I thought frogger was suspect because of how defensive he always was, but not enough to push on him.

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Well, jaack. look at it from our perspective. why would jae cc as mafia here? what is the purpose of it?

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considering there is like 3 or less mafia remaining total, i see no reason to do so.

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1 shot BP makes a lot of sense, actually. could safely claim vig.

VOTE: Jaack

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i think it's possible Elena could be black maf, though. dont think she's on a team with transcend tho

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Actually, wait, why did I say to focus on black may? Get last white maf and it's less deaths in the night. I'm on mobile right now, can someone tell me who is likely the last White?

I said this already lol

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Why is everyone forgetting the argument of kuror0 saying it was likely frogger who killed cloud. Does that make them less likely teamed? Then again my reads have been shit this game lol

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I'd be down to lynch Zach today. But him and transcend/frog doesn't sound like a team. And we are looking for white maf

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I'm a gt alt

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so when are ppl gonna catch up

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*whispers* vote jack. jae has no reason to cc here as mafia.

if he were last white, he loses tomorrow

if he's one of the black, he gets lynched and his partner could still be lynched the next day regardless and lose.

He was better off not claiming vig if he was mafia basically.

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Ooo kill em

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Shoulda shot him yesterday like I said instead of pv

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ok yeah him flipping BP made sense. Also, I realized that their plan for me was to have Transcend buddy me and have frogger and jaack try and get me lynched lol

Anyway, it's probably Elena and Zach. The kill on Jae instead of a mason makes me think it was zach who did it. I thought Kuroro was town earlier, but my reads have been shit this game. Can I also see why everyone TRs Alisae now? Is it cause of the Gamma and Alisae thing in the beginning?

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why are we voting so quickly? also Elena if you're town can you unvote please? who do you think the most likely teams are?

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i meant who is the most likely team. as in people

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Elena do you think Alisae is town yes or no.

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Alisae, I'm asking her if she thinks Zach is confirmed scum, then who is more likely his partner. you or Kuroro

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that would mean that there would be traitors for both mafs right? i dont see that likely.

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ahhh i see what you mean. so 2 mafs and a traitor for black team?

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i'm a sucker for ate

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i mean. i still see you and him as a likely team with this being a chance to distance. but, I don't understand the need to rush the vote.

Also, i'm kinda throwing out my old reads and trying to look from a new perspective since my reads in the beginning were trash. So i don't really TR anyone right now except the PRs.

I mean, I understand what Jae was talking about when he said the Alisae and Gamma thing earlier, but i don't think that's enough to say they can't be teamed. I mean, i woulda thought Frogger and Transcend weren't teamed had it not been for white frog flip.

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Elena what are your thoughts on a Alisae/Kuroro team?

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Also wanna know what everyone thinks of Jae being killed instead of Masons

pedit: Im just asking a question to get her view on the game, why are you so defensive?

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A NEAPOLITAN HAD A GUILTY ON YOU THEN!

VOTE: Transcend

yeah i was scum but I'll help you out

my team has a role cop and Elena Fisher is a 1-shot strongman

I don't think I've ever seen a town strongman so I think you know what this means

Toodles.

You beat me to it Alisae. Although, Transcend said Rolecop, when Frog was actually a Neapolitan... although that might be a small cover in case Frog needed to claim.

I'm fine with voting this I think. I do want to hear from Mick and Kuror0 first though.

There may be reasons to scumread Elena, but these are shit reasons to. Why would you take the word of a mafia who was confirmed lynched and would wifom anything.

I'm starting to think it could be Zach and one of Alisae or Kurur0.

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ok Alisae, if you're so sure Elena is mafia, then who is the partner?

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LOL. You just said i was town yesterday because of the cloud neighborizing me. How did I suddenly go from town to mafia?

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Well I do know this for sure.
The rest of the scum is in {Zach, Elena, Garrybote, Kuror0}
I think it's Zach, Elena, Kuror0 lynched and town wins.

Oh wait yeah forgot about the nieghbor thing.

Yeah you're town imo.

Black Scum Jaack, Elena.
White scum Kuror0.

GG I won the game.

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Then why not

VOTE: Zach

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but you just said you team read them

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I see what you two are up to and if Elena flips town you two are fucked because if Elena flips town I see a future where you two blitz me at Lylo/Mylo

this is a weird statement to make when you're so sure Elena flips scum based on the transcend thing

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Garrybote.
Sheep me and get out of my way or you'll get run over.

>sheep you

I voted Zach first and tried to get you to vote him and you denied at first. why?

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Gerry, you cannot be this dumb.

How am I being dumb? What exactly have you or your slot done townie at all?

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tbh not really lol

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yes, children sheep me. @masons dreal. vote zach

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lol @ dreal

Also where are the masons when you need them

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happy birthday d7

masons please do something

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Clum you think me and zach are a team so why don't we just lynch him now he's been failing the past day

#goodposting

Alisae when i said this earlier to you, you said it was the wrong wagon. why have you changed so much.

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These masons are useless is2g. If you think that Zach and Elena are teamed, why not just fking vote Zach?

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I think it's Zach and Kuroro now. Kurur0 why do you TR Zach?

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Please someone tell me what Zach or his slot has done town this entire game.

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Zach tell me why you TR kurur0. Why do you TR me? Why are you for sure that it's in Alisae and Elena?

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I don't. I never said I did. At some point recently I said I saw Elena paired with either Zach or Alissae, that's why I wasn't pushing for Alissae and rather focus on Elena at that moment. And due to my vote I think I still hold that thought.

You had a town read on me but always said you had shitty reads this game so you didn't hold it that hight but now suddenly it is a scum read? That's a rather odd progression. Can you walk me through what changed that read?

My reads have been bad. I think objectively, the person who has been scummiest is Zach now that I take a look at everything. Alisae at least had the gamma interaction thing. Elena I kinda felt on the ate toward the end. It's more of I think Zach is mafia and I think he's more likely to be teamed with you.

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Notice how Kuro still ignores my case on him because he knows it's solid.

quote this case

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I don't really buy the traitor thing, btw. Idk. If dreal was traitor with Zach, i think he'd be pushing harder toward a lynch towards Elena right now than he is.