In Memory

[Frozen Angel]

"why aren't you asking that from the people who should have?

I don't know what this means

This means I listed all the neighbourhoods in our pt with postie and I was kindda hinting in all neighbourhoods I was remembering all the day long in this thread - no one else mentioned I'm missing yours

and I kinda missed yours because that happens when there are so many details in a game

It happened in shadowrun math, I went back and reread the whole crap again twice. You know that can happen so get the fuck out of my wagon.

[Frozen Angel]

over 50% of the people from my HS don't have english as a first language

I never have issues

I think she doesn't try, it's not about it being her second language and all about how she forms sentences and uses words - if you can't see that there's a difference and that "english not being the first language" isn't the issue, I'm sorry

I selflearnt english

Its my fourth language

[Frozen Angel]

we seriously have spend 50 fucking pages or so hashing the mechanics of all the Night-shit (well, you all have) and one of the main people involved isn't even up on all the information, even though they appear so confident to know what the fuck they are talking about and how to go about it all

it's fucking ridiculous, and being pissed is absolutely valid

I am not saying pissed is invalid.

I am saying make a valid point and do so without attacking people.

For example, FA earlier claimed to hunt via mechanics and said she is good at it. Missing that seems contradictory. Instead of going and finding that post and saying "You are pissing me off because you claim X in post ABCD but here you are not caught up on the mechanics." It is sketchy to me.

The more you focus on grammar and yelling the less likely people are to listen. I have seen rage as either alignment and it doesn't help me believe you or your case. Focus on the play not the player or grammar.

~~Math

FYI Capitalization is still off.

I am good with mechanics

I am a human at the same time. I got new information and forgot some old discussed stuff in a game I replaced in after 100 and ... pages and you were pushing that line of thinking and It wasn't making sense before I remembered that.

The wagon on me is better if happens in a later day.

[Frozen Angel]

it's about being able to comprehend what the fuck she is saying, what questions she is asking me, me understanding what she understands based on the things she says, and now I just feel like at a complete loss

it has become a big enough obstacle in the game that I need to address it, it has been an obstacle, and I've been dealing with it and being patient, but now it's affecting MY ABILITY to play this game effectively

what else has she missed? like, she's either a useless town slot at this point because she hasn't been paying attention to the game-state and is completely lost, or she's scum fucking with all of this shit on purpose

either way, she can die, imo

I didn't miss anything else I assume? I have more information than you all combined atm from the interogations I had and other stuff. I am definitly not useless - I want to find one solid scumread for myself and thats exactly my point of existance I don't care what do you think about me or what anyone else is going to think about me cause I am a conftown

[Frozen Angel]

FA, the thing is, if you are good with mechanics like you say, and game-solve with all of the details like you appear to do (oh hey, grand idea got cancelled, we can talk about that...weee), you should have this shit written down

every time a new piece of information gets added to the mix, you should be keeping notes and adjusting accordingly, otherwise you're going to forget things, make mistakes, and it's just going to be a complete and utter mess and not be helpful at all - again, why I think it points to you being scum because I think you know these things and do play that way on occassion, but can claim not to do so when it serves you

I don't write no shit in paper - really passed that point

Don't try to tell me what should I do. I trust my memory enough (it fucks up once or twice but hey its working fine in general) and Thats evident if you look back at my other games. I didn't write a single note in shadowrun. I once told the exact same setup of a large bastard game in D3 in an offsite game as a mason with no extra information. I solved saga but no one listened.

I can understand setups and I'm good at them. Its not my scum hunting method but IN THE PLACE I AM ATM thats teh best thing I can do for scumhunting

as I said I don't care what do you think of me tbh. I said whatever was necessary to say. Next claim "after I'm lynched"

[Frozen Angel]

omfg call yourself conftown again and look like a fool

You will be to fool when the time comes

don't insult my intelligence

ever

[Frozen Angel]

your point of existence, if you are town, is to HELP TOWN

it is a team game

it's not about YOU GETTING WHAT YOU NEED, it's about working together to achieve a common goal

I am not wasting time.

and I am helping town

WAY MORE THAN you can imagine

[Frozen Angel]

FA is scum because I don't think they are actually this incompetant of a player and are using the "whoopsies" as a way to shittify the thread, make us run in circles, waste our time and energy - these are scumtactics used to get town frustrated and demoralized

Good start.

VOTE: Frozen Angel

I think she is scum because of that:
--The contradictory I hunt by mechanics yet not noticing the mechanics claims.
--Outing of role information
--Not reading the thread closely.
--Not voting Vaxkiller.
--Her attack for the derp hammer didn't feel genuine.
--They are attacking as many people as possible but don't give concrete reads when asked numerous times. Instead they talk only about mhsmith and Drealmerz being reads.

~~Math

--No contradictions. I have so many informations atm and I missed one.
--I outed the necessary information to get more
--I am reading the thread really closely. you mentioned this point already why the redundancy... want to make me look worse?
--I didn't cause I wasn't finished with my train of thoughts. I was busy with RL when the wagon was pulling off thats maybe why I missed the neighbourhood thingi - I had to much in my mind

Btw important question : why didn't you ask postie after messing up with that lolhammer? You could ask her to test her and if you truly fucked up with calculations that would help wouldn't it?

A question : aliese told anything about me to you yet or not?

--I didn't attack on the derp hammer. It didn't seem genuine to me and I tried to see if it really was a misclaculation or is it a scum theather
--I want ONE solid scumread I will attack whoever I like. I don't care about Townreads. I don't want to look good

whats that telling you?

[Frozen Angel]

I also understand setups and am good at them

but you have to make sure you have all of your shit straight

I have all the shit together

I knew there was another neighbourhood and mhs was on it - I was thinking it was mhs - JAE cause Postie said that neighbourhood existed. I simply fucked up the two details because of the amount of neighbourhoods in this game.

[Frozen Angel]

again, get your ego out of it

it's about criticizing your method, it's a constructive thing, you could obviously do it better, right? yes, undoubtedly, no question, if you are closed to that truth, that is your problem

You can't criticize my game play when you don't know my gaol and game motivation

and don't even bother claiming to be as nearly as good as me in sorting setups. k? But thats not the point. Thats not my main way for scumhunting. I did that to have a good grasp on setup to find one single scumread that I was looking for

[Frozen Angel]

if you missed one, you can miss more

and you don't know, because you don't know

what is so hard to understand about that? OH, your ego is in the way

I definitly can like any other human being

Your point is flawed unless your advertising to policy lynch me and your not thinking I'm scum.

[Frozen Angel]

I have to go somewhere

either finish my wagon before I'm home or completely eradicate it because it must be obvious now with all the crumbs I made in above posts - or your not good enough with setups to understand that?

bye for now

[Frozen Angel]

you keep missing the point

you don't know if you're missing other things

not about the hoods

about anything

Well I can write everything down to check that with you

are you suggesting that?

[Frozen Angel]

I can literally just out 80% of this playerlist

I have some Unclaimed informations about players in game

should I check everything? what is your point

[Frozen Angel]

which she doesn't seem interested in helping anyone but herself, it's all about HER figuring it out so SHE can TELL everyone else what to do

Congratulations, you have effectively diagnosed high ego town. This diagnosis will help you greatly in your MS career since you'll run into that kind of archetype a LOT

I'm not usually like that

This game IS DIFFERENT

I have to be like that

[Frozen Angel]

It's done in hard defense of DEO.

So basically alisae is scum iff DEO is?

Yeah.

Whats your read on the chain?

[Frozen Angel]

That something is adding up to postie who knows stuff about me

Everything is perfectly fine about me and my role

I meant every word I said in past few pages - not going to hint on anything else

[Frozen Angel]

adding up for*

[Frozen Angel]

my point is you are being an egotistical know-itall who can't be told anything and are just completely railroading your agenda above anything else and that you don't really get the concept of the game

wait

I don't get the concept of the game? what do you mean by this?

[Frozen Angel]

in fact, FA, you might think you're hot shit

but you're one of the most horrible players I've ever seen

pretty much everything you've contributed to this game has NOT been helpful

it's just been you ego-stroking yourself

wow, look at that ISO

holyfuck

shut the f.. up

who asked your opinion?

You don't know shit - so you better shut the f.. up and play the fucking game instead of harassing me.

ok?

[Frozen Angel]

Like This is my last warning before blacklisting you

who the fuck is forcing you to continue playing this game? Get the fuck out if you have problem with me.

[Frozen Angel]

I'm not harassing you

I'm giving my opinion

if you don't like it, ignore it, or go cry to someone else

Your stupid for calling this crying.

Its just me giving my opinions

some idiot like you (idiot as a mafia player - not talking about you generally) is not allowed to tell his opinions about me

Now go fucking harass yourself in the mirror you peace of crap

Looking at game state it seems you shot who mafia shot. All your fucking reads were off so far. I fucking recognized the role of vax before his lynch which could disable me as well Thats why I was hunting for that last day.

starting today I had a neighborhood so I could share my reads (The much I wanted) there after interogating postie with my role. I can't announce my reads directly cause that will remove a very important wifom for scum if they already know what is my role.

Your a fucking idiot in setup spec or playing mafia who think I did nothing so far. Do you think I'm an idiot saying I'm conftown? News No I never fucking lie like that. Your a fucking idiot in mafia who is trying to poke me to make me share every single detail I have Thats Like fucking massclaiming.

Your a fucking idiot as a mafia player if you think I'm even 1% going to chnage my awsome gameplay to become 1% closer to the idiotic game play you have

/end rant

F... off

[Frozen Angel]

Who asked you to share your issues about my general mafia game play with me?

Don't talk about what your brain can't handle next time.

[Frozen Angel]

I practically fullclaimed now

are you happy?

[Frozen Angel]

no one asked

who needs to ask?

you are horrible, I am telling you

go cry some more about it!!!!!

I'm definiky not horrible

I have 60 games of mafia never been off with reads in single one of them

I had vigs or variants 2 times I ended the game the night 1.

I had macho tracker once and I ended the game with 2 tracker guilties in row and guessing one no kill gambit

I was the only right player in saga

I was the one who warned people about patches in bloodborne

my scum game?

I lived as a mod confirmed cult member with 2 IC vigs - as the only remianing scum for like 8 phases after me being confirmed in gistou

I never lost a single mafia game but steven universe which had an RL related reason (someone used an RL tell)

who the fuck are you?

[Frozen Angel]

no not at all

I didn't give a shit about your role

you pretending to be like that was what I was about is laughable though

You don't give a shit about what?

Thats why my iso is like that.

Your fucking horrible in this game for not realizing what I was hinting you so far.

Go thak god there is an Ino on you and your not likely group scum with that vig claim or I would 1v1 you and heads up I never got lynched in my past 55 games. you know why? cause I'm not getting mislynched by noobs like you

[Frozen Angel]

ego-stroke some more

try not to get any on me though, k?

ego stroke?

Ok

You do once

tell me what have you done in your brilliant history of mafia games. come on. Your saying I'm a horrible player, fuck off or show what is the good play

Your saying I'm not playing with a team I answered thats because of my role, your saying You don't care about my role

what the fuck do you want me to tell you know?

[Frozen Angel]

tldr; grow up kid.

I will probably just ignore you from this point forward. If you have problem with me get the fuck out of this game. maybe your replacement be more useful.

[Frozen Angel]

VOTE: zefind

The BP claim is not town utility if this stupid drealm is town or sk and he doesn't feel like group scum.

he needs to full claim his conditional exit.

[Frozen Angel]

There are other killing utilities in town hands you are not informed about.

Its not just that he can dodge with.

The kill on lycan was either just by you as mafia which I highly doubt or was a double kill with you and mafia shooting him which makes msh more likly town knowing he strated trusting you to partially claim after you hinting at vig but then he denied that he got the claim - still makes him more likly town regardless

[Frozen Angel]

and yes, I'm great at setupspec and mechanics - it is one of my strong points if I put the effort in (but I don't fool myself into thinking I can do it all from memory, if I'm going to do it, I write everything down in word/notepad and do it "properly" so I don't make mistakes)

nah you obviously suck at it I tested it like 8 times in this day alone - I'm done talking about this tough.

[Frozen Angel]

nah you obviously suck at it I tested it like 8 times in this day alone - I'm done talking about this tough.

and this is what I mean by reading comprehension, paying attention to the game, and you being scummy because of comments like this

like, where, WHERE do you see me setup-speccing and mechanical-analyzing in this game?

where do you see me saying "I wrote this shit down, why didn't you?"

no where, I've never indicated that I was doing it in this game, so, why would I suddenly be doing it when you "tested it 8 times this day" ???

it makes NO FUCKING SENSE and shows that you're either entirely self-absorbed or just scum being a scumfuck

I don't care what makes sense to you. Absolutely no intention to tell you why you suck. I won't join any games your in from now on you don't eaither

[Frozen Angel]

There are other killing utilities in town hands you are not informed about.

and you have every single bit of information all by yourself so you know absolutely that what other people say can't fit because it doesn't fit what you have decided upon

this is SHITTYHORRIBLE PLAY

like, you're just decided that you know best and because you know best it can't be other ways and so you aren't going to consider them

even though YOU DON'T ACTUALLY HAVE ALL OF THE INFORMATION EITHER

I guess if you're scum you have quite a bit more than the rest of us and so your arrogance about it all makes a bit more sense if you're scum

I have 80% of this setup atm and the 20% is mostly scum roles yes. I'm smart and I was doing stuff when you were doing no shit.

This is the best game play a town could do

I know how to sort people. that player is town the role is town its not a CC to you and its completly negating zefind BP. his BP is very likly scum tool. Mafia wouldn't vanalyze someone else's kill unless they had a chat with them. you mhs chat wasn't were this was discussed according to the clues I saw so lycan was vanalyzed and double shot that night. zefind needs to full claim

and you can hide wherever is suitable for you

[Frozen Angel]

and I'll glady sign up for a game seeing you in the list in the hopes that you drop out

I will stay in a game I signed up for first.

That just won't be a pleasant game for us

[Frozen Angel]

and btw

I have all the information of this side

I don't have zefind conditional exit and thats what was my pause when I unvoted him before this day.

[Frozen Angel]

I think we can work this out, honestly

I think you need to reduce your ego a bit and be a bit more open to other people's advice and realize that even if you are very good at the game, you aren't perfect, and that it is a team game about working together to find a common enemy (this is what I like about the game, this is what it is for me, I like team-based goal-oriented things, where there are obstacles and ppl have to figure out how to work together to overcome them - it is a very very social and communal game)

if you are not scum this is why I think we can work it out, because that is what it is all about, working together, that is what is REQUIRED to be successful (or at least, the best successful you can be, there are multiple ways to skin a beast and some ways are much better than others, it is simply a Truth) - you might have success doing it your way, but that is not the best way at all, and even if other ways are more difficult (not forcing your overbearing will on everyone, but instead, working with each other), they are better and in the long run serve the entire community better

I don't think so

My ego size is non of your business
I never say I'm really good at this game to lead the game - last time I was lyncher and this time I said that to shut you up
I perfectly know I'm not perfect
I really care about team work and the convincing part and I'm really good at it. its not what i should do in this game
I am not scum in this but as your points are not realated to my game but my general playstyle without knowing it we definitly can't work anything out
and I don't have to work with anyone knowing what I am and I shouldn't work with anyone knwong my town role pm
I will force lynches on scum whenever I wish.

[Frozen Angel]

Do you think he's lying about the conditional exit then?

I have two guesses I think nothing else is possible for it

not claiming one as town is idiotic so I think its second and second is NAI

I told postie my opinions about it privaatly not going to tell that before him claiming

[Frozen Angel]

ok, but, are you sure?

and, do you understand how it is hard for me to be confident in your being sure, because of the miss before, ther simply could be other things in the game that you missed, especially since you replaced in

those factors could be something that make what you THINK you have, have a huge hole that you can't see

I am sure

and I honestly don't give a fuck about your opinion

[Frozen Angel]

I am sure about the other killing thing and the vanalizer stuff I talked about

I might be wrong about zefind - I'm not an oracle and I didn't cheat. I said what informations I had - there are no flaws in them. those info indicates that bp won't make him town at all.

I was trying to understand math points before pushing him more.

[Frozen Angel]

I'm not interested in playing as a team with you regardless of your alignment and thats really great that I don't have to knowing what is my role.

[Frozen Angel]

I didn't take anything you said in that game as why you suck or why I hate you personally.

every reason I have is based on what I saw from you in this day phase in this game

[Frozen Angel]

see, we're not even on the same page

you aren't listening to me or are having reading comprehension problems

the thing I'm asking how can you be sure about, is IF YOU ARE missing details from the game, like, say you missed gamma being an odd-day DVer, because you missed it, you don't know if you missed it, it's simply not in your analysis

to you your picture looks 95% filled or something like that, but in reality, it's 80% because you are missing things

and you can't 'be sure' if if you missed something

like...it's not hard to comprehend and I don't get your malfunction and again, I resolve to scum just fucking shit around

What are you talking about?

zefind claim is public and HOW can I be wrong about another killing ability claim in this game?!! What are you talking about?

WHAT can be missed from what I just said? There might be other things I don't know yet regarding this I'm not cheating. I just explained one obvious conclusion based on the facts I have. Tell me what is missing if you know better

[Frozen Angel]

the chain neighbours are pretty much claimed to each other - the information they have are not too much to kill the town in them if scum is inside but I think scum is out of chain

[Frozen Angel]

Creature have you just missed my point about zef BP and another not mafia killing ability in this game or you chose to ignore it?

[Frozen Angel]

There are other killing utilities in town hands you are not informed about.

Its not just that he can dodge with.

The kill on lycan was either just by you as mafia which I highly doubt or was a double kill with you and mafia shooting him which makes msh more likly town knowing he strated trusting you to partially claim after you hinting at vig but then he denied that he got the claim - still makes him more likly town regardless

[Frozen Angel]

and the posts around it

Drealm is ery likly not mafia for the way he claimed - that means there are two not mafia killing utility. BP makes sense for scum more than it makes sense for town

[Frozen Angel]

person with killing utility

[Frozen Angel]

I'm still iffy on the way math defended zef for that BP though >.>

[Frozen Angel]

how the fuck does the setup-spec make sense with town having multiple kill utility and scum don't get a N1 ???

that would lean me to thinking that the double-voter would be more likely scum-aligned

why do you think they didn't counter claim you?

Think that through, go do some researches and list possibilities, then look at your notes

you will figure it out eventually.

[Frozen Angel]

What is exiting the game? silence or treestump or something else? If its silence why your not full claiming it and why you didn't claim it before?

I'm definitely not terrible and yeah I need to die, Not today though. I have hard evidence that the other player with killing ability is town. Drealm is not making sense as mafia so that means 2 extra kills. BP is more likely scum in this scenario and it's definitely negative utility.

[Frozen Angel]

and I was voting you before - I unvoted you to understand math pov and to put everything together, my revote on you is after a long hidden conversation in my neighborhood with postie.

Nice bullshit though : her interactions with drealm is destructive and she is terrible and needs to die. I'm not going down today sir. I have too many connections, I'm conftown to some and some others must be able to understand what was you are calling "her bullshit".

[Frozen Angel]

Now the zefiend vote is horrible and one of FA or Zefiend is likely scum because of it.
No explanation other than information given I wonder if it is because of a scum role PM she has this information.
Until I understand why FA's play is so drastically different than Shadowrun and NKs explained this zefiend lynch is dumb.

Nah my role pm is very much town and It can't be scum in any manner, sorry

and my play is not drastically different. It just has a part you can't see

what is ambiguous for you for the stuff I said about zefind?

[Frozen Angel]

where are everyone

math - aliese talked to you? he wanted to talk about something- I want to know if that happened yet or not

[Frozen Angel]

Wait that makes no sense

Alisea you asked postie for my permission about something yes?

[Frozen Angel]

alisae was suspicious about something

they wanted to ask something from you about that and tey needed to get a permission from me

[Frozen Angel]

alisae was suspicious about something

they wanted to ask something from you about that and tey needed to get a permission from me

@Deo

@aliese

confirm this

[Frozen Angel]

They tried to get that permission from me in Friday as well

was it true that they were suspicious about something you said friday?

[Frozen Angel]

No

I asked to be informed about the process completely and I wasn't >.>

[Frozen Angel]

That means you didn't tell the pidgeon anything about it after not needing anymore?

[Frozen Angel]

zefind where the fuck are you >.>

[Frozen Angel]

RC - you notified us that zefiend could no longer talk in the thread...was he still able to view it?

(I didn't think about that...)

what do you mean "No longer" He started the game like that

[Frozen Angel]

I just woke up and read this

drealm is probably SK after all with no extra kill.

If your town you had a single job and that was to shoot someone - even me - to confirm yourself as vig after 3 scum death and you didn't.

VOTE: Drealmz

Not buying this crap anymore.

[Frozen Angel]

Read the whole thread first please. Also we're not lynching dreal.

I have a cold feet on lynching mhs but I can see your point about him being sum inves in a game with possible traitor: RM.

The N2 kill was not missing. Its abovious that eaither it was one kill or both kills hit the same person. With that being said it might be 3 person town team + drealm sk sharing hood with the scum. its making way more sense than two mafia sharing hood with a vig

if RM is in fact traitor then alisae has a good chance to be scum as well - spescially with DEO's doctor flip.

[Frozen Angel]

RM was obviously scum yes

we don't know what scum

and how is that relevant data?

[Frozen Angel]

RM didn't claim they were about to get janitted and the janit was obviously because of their flavor (LoR - Valinor)

or someone janitted them and didn't Janit anyone else cause it was one shot and the janit will be resolved with the deacesed flavor? it makes no sense. what KInd of stupid janit is that.

[Frozen Angel]

so yeah RM was like 97% scum and very likly traitor or SK because of the fact they got janitted

[Frozen Angel]

We still have atleast one scum left and it isn't SK.

why?

[Frozen Angel]

We still have atleast one scum left and it isn't SK.

why?

Because the game hasn't ended. Also, SK kills are lacking.

Vig kills are lacking too. why he is a vig and not an sk who is lieing about not killing anyone last night?

[Frozen Angel]

he claimed not consecutive vig who killed the only kill on N2 and didn't shoot N4

[Frozen Angel]

and mhs said he didn't target anyone N3

[Frozen Angel]

actually wait

UNVOTE:

Thats not how a sk plays >.>

[Frozen Angel]

@mhs you claimed partially D2

did you crumb/claim follower/tracker variants and said you are going to check drealm or not?

[Frozen Angel]

I mean in loss pt

[Frozen Angel]

You weren't informed about zefind existance till that flip, correct?

[Frozen Angel]

Welcome and hugs! <3

what are your bubble latest reads ?

[Frozen Angel]

VOTE: Alisae

RM was probably a traitor and this is the scum in same naighbourhood

the fact game started with 2 starting neighbourhood that we had a flip in each suggests that was a way for scum to have a communication with the seprate scum - which can be traitor cause SK wants mafia dead and to apear town

RM slot janitting by their own flavor suggests hidden information for even Mafia so I can't be more strongly feel about them being a traitor plus Alisae "Thing" makes sense as a scum late game utility and I beleive their definitly hiding stuff

plus their a little off about the way they talked about RM being obvscum based on DEO reads. and their not doing the happy jumpying branching around and emotional involvement I saw in their town them and Gamma slot was so Ehhh early game with the way they pushed people and buddied DEO

so yeah for now I have a strong feeling this is scum

[Frozen Angel]

mhs postie CC can only be resolved after a mass claim

In that case creature should claim first as thats the only slot I don't know anything from imo

[Frozen Angel]

I want alisae and Creature to talk about their reads too

[Frozen Angel]

lets talk about bubbles

[Frozen Angel]

yes she is

[Frozen Angel]

and I can tell f she is scum or town if she starts talking for a while with a great accuracy

[Frozen Angel]

VOTE: Malachite

Flavor claim in next post

[Frozen Angel]

I want mala flavor claim first

[Frozen Angel]

You will claim if we do the massclaim thingi

[Frozen Angel]

We all have pt's

You and mala the one who has no link to anyone else

@JAE we are not ending this day phase yet. I'm trying to shrink my list of suspects and its something that has to be done today.

[Frozen Angel]

so your saying if upgraded on eaither even or odd nights you will be a rolecop?

how do you know that?

[Frozen Angel]

So your still a rolecop?

is jae boost permanent? :O

[Frozen Angel]

Snow globe.

Last chance to talk about buables or you will be lynched btw

[Frozen Angel]

May I ask how is that related to snowflake?

[Frozen Angel]

I mean snow globe

[Frozen Angel]

where is KTS at atm and what was his last post about?

paraphrase you can't copy paste - as a reminder

[Frozen Angel]

so he is still talking to your slot.

Ask him what he thinks about mhs and postie and parapharse his answers please

[Frozen Angel]

how old is that drealm is sum post?

[Frozen Angel]

I was bubble hunting

duh

VOTE: Alisae

[Frozen Angel]

what do you mean you don't have it anymore

It was supposed to be here starting today according to your fullcalim to alisae , wasn't it?

[Frozen Angel]

the fact game started with 2 starting neighbourhood that we had a flip in each suggests that was a way for scum to have a communication with the seprate scum - which can be traitor cause SK wants mafia dead and to apear town

I thought the game started with 3 neighbourhoods. The one mshmith is in, the one I'm in, and the one Creature was in. No?

Kuroi was a neghborizer

love and lose neighborhoods were predetermined

are you even reading the game?

[Frozen Angel]

what do you mean you don't have it anymore

It was supposed to be here starting today according to your fullcalim to alisae , wasn't it?

I get vanillized N4.

>.>

there is a scum vanalyzer flipped

Vote to confirm this claim

[Frozen Angel]

plus their a little off about the way they talked about RM being obvscum based on DEO reads. and their not doing the happy jumpying branching around and emotional involvement I saw in their town them and Gamma slot was so Ehhh early game with the way they pushed people and buddied DEO

So basicly I'm being a lot more quiet because there's a lot of conversation that's going on that I think is silly (like the drealmerz and you fight, and a bunch of other fights I thought were TvTs) and not playing to my meta therefore I'm scum?

And Gamma realy trusted Deo. Hell Deo even claimed to them how their abilities worked. This was like, a long time ago.

so many TvT's around cause we have 1 scum left

who is scum if your not

make a case

[Frozen Angel]

thats the point

how can I know if its self vanalyze and your not with new abilities atm?

[Frozen Angel]

I know your vote thing is changed the way it was promised

why should I trust you that you don't have any other abilities?

[Frozen Angel]

Is that all your role or are you hiding something

this is the last chance for fixing it

[Frozen Angel]

rethink about your poe

[Frozen Angel]

I'm voting Alisae

[Frozen Angel]

Hmm, why?

caue their claim feels incomplete and they make sense as a part of love neighbourhood with RM traitor

[Frozen Angel]

and gamma's early game was scummy af

[Frozen Angel]

I'm not satisfied with your claim

something doesn't make sense about it. Engage with postie privatly about it asap

[Frozen Angel]

he was in rm and deo's hood
and he got a hood with postie later on from deo

[Frozen Angel]

postie claimed something useless? what do you mean?

[Frozen Angel]

like you.

how have you checked so far with that part of your role?

[Frozen Angel]

she gave me your flavor correctly (well gave me somthing That I got your flavor based on it correctly) so yeah. she is telling the truth

[Frozen Angel]

too much emotions >.>

[Frozen Angel]

Ok NOW maybe too much

DAMN IT

YOUR MAKING ME HAPPY ON PURPOSE

[Frozen Angel]

he can flavor cop my slot tonight

thats a confirmable claim

[Frozen Angel]

i suggested traitor cause that makes sense to be in a double scum neighbourhood with you and explains the reason we have these many neighbouring shit around

plus she was janitted with her flavor thats so rediciulous if it was a 3p janitor so it was in her own role - which means she was definietly scum but why should a group scum self janit?

[Frozen Angel]

FA, what do you make of Malachite joining the game and then promptly vanishing?

not her scummy lurking style yet but suspicious

[Frozen Angel]

i suggested traitor cause that makes sense to be in a double scum neighbourhood with you and explains the reason we have these many neighbouring shit around

plus she was janitted with her flavor thats so rediciulous if it was a 3p janitor so it was in her own role - which means she was definietly scum but why should a group scum self janit?

You wanna know what would make this theory make a lot more sense?
A lot of people trying to push The DEO D1. Or D2.
or The DEO getting nightkilled N2.
Let's not be silly here, THE DEO CLAIMED TO GAMMA A LONG TIME AGO!
You wanna know another explanation for the neighbouring shit going on? The DEO's R-O-L-E PM along with Kurois.

Thast why I'm suspecting you not DEO

Duh

[Frozen Angel]

Kuroi neighbourhood was something else.

There is a 3p love and 3p hate person with both having 1 confscum in it and an architect making new threads.

Thats why I beleive one had 2 scum in it and was supposed to be a job for scum to use them to find the traitor.

[Frozen Angel]

YOU CAN'T SUSPECT THE DEO THEY'RE DEAD JIM!

I wasn't suspecting them even if they were alive. They were obviously not alligned with zefind and that role was blantly obv town

how is that related to you?

[Frozen Angel]

[Frozen Angel]

[Frozen Angel]

You can't do a 1v1 with me.

There is no "frozen Angel" loose in any 1v1 with me in this game

haha

[Frozen Angel]

Thought you would attempt to suspect DEO if they were alive.
myyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy baaaaaaaaaaaad

If you were a suicide bomber this would be a good time to suicide bomb me.
Cuz you like to pick a lot of fights that are TvTs and scum love that shit.

I'm not a suicide bomber

But I don't have to mention how scummy is this shit - the way you claimed what you knew about me partially

Not going to change my vote

Alisae is last scum.

[Frozen Angel]

After all FA, I am AMAZING at 1v1s.
That hydra blitz totally proved that

Well, Each game is a different experience

why you wanna 1v1 with a confirmed town who you know you will loose that 1v1 with in any scenario?

I can think if one reason : apeasing

[Frozen Angel]

hmm

k

UNVOTE:

Mala talk to me about what do you think about alisae and mhsmith and your life

how have you been!

pedit : I don't really have to do that!

[Frozen Angel]

That unvote is me taking note of a good reaction from you. satisfying enough imo

whats your read on creature?

[Frozen Angel]

I was looking for more than that

[Frozen Angel]

wait

what

[Frozen Angel]

They asked for getting replaced?

I want that slot dead RIGHT NOW

[Frozen Angel]

I didn't see that in VC

VOTE: Malachite

[Frozen Angel]

And how did jaereed find out?

postie knew her flavor using her abilities and she told him.

Postie wanted to start today 1v1 ing you and your ability makes a perfect counter point of her but then why should scum have rolecop and element cop.

follower/flavor cop + element cop might make sense...

and drealmz MUST Die before lylo OR SHOOT someone To confirm they can SHOOT an extra person with the scum alive TONIGHT.

THIS IS MANDATORY you understand?

[Frozen Angel]

That will confirm drealm as town AND we need it

[Frozen Angel]

Also, fwiw a full role cop for scum on top of a presumed self-janitor (with unknown other abilities) and a strongman is pretty abhorrent balance wise unless there's a lot of town power, and for the most part town hasn't shown much power.

Doctor has TWO counters (vanillaizer and strongman), even night vig is a weak ability, and booster is nice but as shown w postie boosts, isn't worth all that much for at least a pretty decent fraction of he roles on the board.

Obviously it would be better to setup spec AFTER mass claim, but there's where I am right now. Given scum power on the board, plus presumed 11v4 (much more scumsided than typical distribution), town seems ridiculously underpowered without some additional useful abilities. I'm curious if anyone is going to claim anything or if we're going to pretend like lynching one of the few non junk town PRs is a good idea.

The selff janitor is very likly a traitor if drealm is in fact town and not serial killer

your extra investigative that is making you look like town but is countered with a town utility make sense with that assumption.

The only person WHO have to claim atm is creature cause he is lurking low and I don't have all the information >.>

[Frozen Angel]

who did you investigate last night?

[Frozen Angel]

Weren't you suppose to be a flavor cop last night?

[Frozen Angel]

write all your results one more time

[Frozen Angel]

Write all your results one more time

[Frozen Angel]

There is a slight chance that RM and their relacement were townand we are In mylo

I don't want to fuck this up

pedit : >.>

Flavor check is what puts you in opposition of postie and That is making sense for neighbourhood hunting - the way element cop was weak but useful for scum

[Frozen Angel]

loss thread

love thread

You being investigative makes sense with your flavor

what I can do makes sense with my flavor

its a weak role cop

[Frozen Angel]

Creature full claim in your next post

[Frozen Angel]

You are likely just SK ...

[Frozen Angel]

Jae you were with deo the night they died yes?

[Frozen Angel]

and you were with postie last night

yes?

Just making sure about an information I have

[Frozen Angel]

ok

When did you claim the extra thing to anyone? after second scum death? to who did you claim it?

You know what extra thing I'm talking about?

[Frozen Angel]

mhs your claiming alisae didn't target ANYONE

yes?

[Frozen Angel]

HUH

smith confirm the above in your next post

[Frozen Angel]

"More Useful" when he was a rolecop?

[Frozen Angel]

ok so here is the thing

Jae is Confirmed Town

The lynch pool is mhs/drealm/creature as mhs has an ino on alisae (though ninja is a possibility - I don't know slacking - someone tell if that make sense with that flavor or not)

I MIGHT claim today if I sense we are in mylo - regardless I'm asking Drealm to shoot me tonight. We are lynching in mhs/creature

[Frozen Angel]

Scum inves make perfect sense in this setup if Drealm is town

[Frozen Angel]

The only thing holding me back is the element cop flip cuase thats also a weak role cop

[Frozen Angel]

(though ninja is a possibility - I don't know slacking - someone tell if that make sense with that flavor or not)

Slaking would make a lot more sense for a strongman then a ninja.
There are other pokemon that would make a lot more sense for a ninja.

I'm not asking if there are other things that make more sense as ninja

I'm asking if it can make sense as one - even slightly - or not

[Frozen Angel]

shoot you FA? why??!?!?

and doesn't that just tell scum to also kill you to set me up for the ML tomorrow?~! why would you say that?!?!!

We are 6 living player

if we mislynch today we will be five. if RM was town (less than 10% chance but hey we need to consider it) we are in mylo right now.

My role will be activated upon my death and this is the closest thing I can go with it without risking game loss

[Frozen Angel]

The vanlizer is a temp one and was designed to counter me and lycanfire and no one else

the strongman was against deo and Jae

the elemt cop was a deo/postie hunter

[Frozen Angel]

If he is town in that case you are scum SK

[Frozen Angel]

if creature ckaims something legit

[Frozen Angel]

so whats stopping you from shooting me?

[Frozen Angel]

maybe I am

and thats how I counterlaimed zefind who turned up scum.

But I'm not and I want to die. Lynching me is an option as well

[Frozen Angel]

The vanalizer was a disabler for everyone

But it was practically designed to stop me and lycan

Thats why I was so eager to find out what cuased lycan death sooner than it should have been - cause it has direct effect on my role and I wanted to make sure I know what I'm dealing with

[Frozen Angel]

If I'm the only dead and I'm scum then you get one scum by shooting me

your trying to vote me seems in paradox with that >.>

[Frozen Angel]

Your saying I as scum are leading you to shoot me - the only scum to frame you in next day

yes?

[Frozen Angel]

so if I'm not scum I as town asked you to shoot me

and You have no reason to vote me atm for that if you beleive its a possibility

SK cought

[Frozen Angel]

What is the motivation for town me to ask you to shoot me?

why should I - as town - frame you?

[Frozen Angel]

Testing what waters

[Frozen Angel]

so your not going to shoot me cause scum might waste a kill for framing you

why

[Frozen Angel]

Why do you think scum will waste a kill to frame you?

[Frozen Angel]

I'm modified vengeful- suicide bomber

I want to get lynched today

Creature has to hard claim role and flavor

EVERYONE unvote now

[Frozen Angel]

MHS one last time your result on alisae is that she didn't visit anyone

yes?

[Frozen Angel]

@drealm

now you understand why your dumb about accusing me of not playing a team game when I refused to share my reads?

That was why

the reson I was hunting vaxkiller role when I replaced in was to ensure this ability won't be stopped and thats why I was playing weird to reach later days.

now Creature full claim role and flavor

[Frozen Angel]

MHS one last time your result on alisae is that she didn't visit anyone

yes?

seriously what the fuck is this shit

he's answered this multiple times already

what is your fucking deal?!

I'm eaither shooting you or mhs atm

explain to me why your town.

[Frozen Angel]

seriously what the fuck is this shit
he's answered this multiple times already
what is your fucking deal?!

she's representing that she's coming close to betting the game on her making the correct vengekill, which seems reasonable enough tbh

How do you think I'm betting the game with my vengkill? why RM was town?

[Frozen Angel]

because serial killer makes no sense for the setup given the flipped scum and flipped town power roles

because, as pointed out, town is relatively weak-seeming, but my role is actually kind of powerful, it's town balance for sure (even with the negative utility, there is positive utility to balance it)

because I would not have killed POSTIE, because there would be MORE KILLS

because LAMIST all over the fucking place

full claim with flavor

[Frozen Angel]

why you said you checked klingon?

[Frozen Angel]

You just said you have extra possitve utility?

[Frozen Angel]

You forgot your result when claiming cause your making shit up is more probable

when was the first time you claimed flavor cop thing to anyone and where did you do it?

[Frozen Angel]

and you say you have been following and checked and have "all the little pieces" and you KNOW you haven't missed anything sooo, you should have it already and I shouldn't have to fucking repeat myself

yes you should repeat yourself cause I'm asking you

Its not negotiable

I didntmiss your claim nor anyof your posts I WANT YOU TO REPEAT IT

now fucking do it or go fucking cry in a corner after being shoted by me about how "FA don't know teamwork"

[Frozen Angel]

OMG FA, if these matter to you

WRITE THEM DOWN WHEN THEY HAPPEN

this filling the thread with repeating shit over and over and over that has already been established is fucking ridiculous

I am a rediculous person

and obvtown and town leader imo

replace out or play with my rules

[Frozen Angel]

you seem to be unaware of my positive utility though...is that inaccurate?

I'm not answering to your questions

You are answering to mine

[Frozen Angel]

If your next post is anything but answering to me - your dead

[Frozen Angel]

I'm not doing team work at all

I'm town leader and I'm killing someone today

and that someone is you

VOTE: Frozen Angel

[Frozen Angel]

See thats how this works

Your not playing a newbie game and its time for you to grow up if your really town

[Frozen Angel]

now vote me or answer and explain who is scum if your not

[Frozen Angel]

unvote for now

This is not resolved yet

[Frozen Angel]

@Alisae if your trying ti ruin what I'm doing right now I will destroy you in post game.

UNVOTE AND GO LURK FOR A WHILE

[Frozen Angel]

I'm not doing team work at all

I'm town leader and I'm killing someone today

and that someone is you

VOTE: Frozen Angel

As much fun as it is to rush into lynches and all that, can we at least wait a day or two? I'd at least like to take some time to re-read and mull the game state over, and I probably won't have a tremendous amount of time for that until like 48 hours form now.

Also creature has yet to check in and claim and that should basically always happen before day end too.

I do what I wanna do

This post is scummy

[Frozen Angel]

I do what I wanna do

This post is scummy

1) I do too, and I'd rather actually take time to think things through
2) How?

I'm thinking about stuff actually

That felt fake

[Frozen Angel]

that makes no sense

Full claim

[Frozen Angel]

before me doing a dumb mistake by ignoring a possibility

Jae is confirmed not mafia - He can still be a Serial killer (I don't think he is traitor because of pushing vax)

pedit : hmm

what would you boost too >.>

[Frozen Angel]

double day was a day use ability?

[Frozen Angel]

so twilight?

was there a twilight day 1? - have to recheck

why did you use it day 1?

[Frozen Angel]

between the lynch post and the sun return is 1 minute difference

>.>

[Frozen Angel]

UNVOTE:

drealmerz and mhs should tell their reads as well

I have an important post don't dare to end the day before I make it

[Frozen Angel]

everything's in control thanks!

what about you?

[Frozen Angel]

flooded

ahhh

[Frozen Angel]

what do you think

assuming worst case scenario (RM was town) who are the scum?

[Frozen Angel]

so YOU are sure creature is town?

[Frozen Angel]

what train of thoughts?

[Frozen Angel]

and asking who has what

[Frozen Angel]

ahh yeah that

[Frozen Angel]

I like to make sure we have a chance if we fail this lynch

in case RM was town there might be 1 mafia - 1 traitor

so if we mislynch mhs and asking drealm to vig me will put us at 4 or 3 if drealm is town as well, 3 is a game loss if 2 scums are alive so for this to work we should Be sure there is at least one scum in mhs - drealm

if drealm doesn't shoot me tonight he will be insta lynched tomorrowif mhs is not a mislynch and the game doesn't end depending on the flip the game will be poeid on scum - I STILL will be vigged by drealm and will shoot

[Frozen Angel]

if mafia no kill after a mislynch on mhs to frame drealm they will be in 4 where I can still shoot scum

if mafia kill after a mislynch on mhs they might win the game by shooting someone else

doing this will prove that mafia has only 1 person and their wasting time to frame drealm or will confirm drealm as town.

[Frozen Angel]

why someone like creature can't be janitor?