In Memory

[drealmerz7]

teamwork

[drealmerz7]

in fact, FA, you might think you're hot shit

but you're one of the most horrible players I've ever seen

[drealmerz7]

pretty much everything you've contributed to this game has NOT been helpful

it's just been you ego-stroking yourself

wow, look at that ISO

holyfuck

[drealmerz7]

I'm not harassing you

I'm giving my opinion

if you don't like it, ignore it, or go cry to someone else

[drealmerz7]

you are detrimental to the gamestate and I'm calling you on it

wahhhhhhh

[drealmerz7]

I'm addressing my issues with you

you simply can't handle that

[drealmerz7]

tip:

get over yourself

[drealmerz7]

pretty much everything you've contributed to this game has NOT been helpful

it's just been you ego-stroking yourself

wow, look at that ISO

holyfuck

this is my criticizing your CONTENT IN THE GAME

if you can't handle that, you need to quit playing mafia

[drealmerz7]

no one asked

who needs to ask?

you are horrible, I am telling you

go cry some more about it!!!!!

[drealmerz7]

no not at all

I didn't give a shit about your role

you pretending to be like that was what I was about is laughable though

[drealmerz7]

ego-stroke some more

try not to get any on me though, k?

[drealmerz7]

who your scumbuddies are

[drealmerz7]

buddy, actually

singular

[drealmerz7]

so it is zefiend

interesting...

[drealmerz7]

I agree that in general BP is more likely scum utility than town, but, in this game, I'm not comfortable at all with that general statement (not arguing against your point, just saying I haven't come to the same conclusion you have)

he wasn't allowed to speak on D1, I was lynch-proof D2 with a N2 vig.shot - to me that feels like the mod set it up so that zefiend would be as sure as possible to live until D3, which makes sense/is fair if you don't allow them to participate D1, and giving a BP ensures that

[drealmerz7]

You should have no problem voting zefiend then, dreal.

connect the dots for me

[drealmerz7]

and yes, I'm great at setupspec and mechanics - it is one of my strong points if I put the effort in (but I don't fool myself into thinking I can do it all from memory, if I'm going to do it, I write everything down in word/notepad and do it "properly" so I don't make mistakes)

[drealmerz7]

so it is zefiend

interesting...

If you think the zefiend is FA's buddy then lynching him should suit you fine.

this hurts my head

you certainly aren't this 1dimensional in your understanding of the game, what gives?

you really think I asked the question, saw their vote, and figured that was the answer? I mean they could be, but, my posting like that in no way indicates that that is solid, decided, anything close to being comfortable voting zefiend...you're just itchy for the zefiend lynch

[drealmerz7]

nah you obviously suck at it I tested it like 8 times in this day alone - I'm done talking about this tough.

and this is what I mean by reading comprehension, paying attention to the game, and you being scummy because of comments like this

like, where, WHERE do you see me setup-speccing and mechanical-analyzing in this game?

where do you see me saying "I wrote this shit down, why didn't you?"

no where, I've never indicated that I was doing it in this game, so, why would I suddenly be doing it when you "tested it 8 times this day" ???

it makes NO FUCKING SENSE and shows that you're either entirely self-absorbed or just scum being a scumfuck

[drealmerz7]

There are other killing utilities in town hands you are not informed about.

and you have every single bit of information all by yourself so you know absolutely that what other people say can't fit because it doesn't fit what you have decided upon

this is SHITTYHORRIBLE PLAY

like, you're just decided that you know best and because you know best it can't be other ways and so you aren't going to consider them

even though YOU DON'T ACTUALLY HAVE ALL OF THE INFORMATION EITHER

I guess if you're scum you have quite a bit more than the rest of us and so your arrogance about it all makes a bit more sense if you're scum

[drealmerz7]

I'll join whatever games I want

[drealmerz7]

and I'll glady sign up for a game seeing you in the list in the hopes that you drop out

[drealmerz7]

you clearly are a bully

I don't put up with that shit

[drealmerz7]

I think we can work this out, honestly

I think you need to reduce your ego a bit and be a bit more open to other people's advice and realize that even if you are very good at the game, you aren't perfect, and that it is a team game about working together to find a common enemy (this is what I like about the game, this is what it is for me, I like team-based goal-oriented things, where there are obstacles and ppl have to figure out how to work together to overcome them - it is a very very social and communal game)

if you are not scum this is why I think we can work it out, because that is what it is all about, working together, that is what is REQUIRED to be successful (or at least, the best successful you can be, there are multiple ways to skin a beast and some ways are much better than others, it is simply a Truth) - you might have success doing it your way, but that is not the best way at all, and even if other ways are more difficult (not forcing your overbearing will on everyone, but instead, working with each other), they are better and in the long run serve the entire community better

[drealmerz7]

ok, but, are you sure?

and, do you understand how it is hard for me to be confident in your being sure, because of the miss before, ther simply could be other things in the game that you missed, especially since you replaced in

those factors could be something that make what you THINK you have, have a huge hole that you can't see

[drealmerz7]

"not realated to my game but my general playstyle without knowing it we definitly can't work anything out"

sure we can, by you telling me in the first place "you don't really know my playstyle to accurately say such things"

which I will agree to, and remind you of the same

I was a fucking JESTER with a POST-RESTRICTION of antagonism and non-logic (did you see my full role description after the game got cancelled?) - that is NOT my playstyle at all

it was painful for me to play that role, though I tried to have fun with it, and bring fun to the game (as well as fulfill my role and post-restrictions)

[drealmerz7]

I am sure

how can you be?

and the "don't give a fuck about my opinion" reiterates my point about teamwork...

[drealmerz7]

see, we're not even on the same page

you aren't listening to me or are having reading comprehension problems

the thing I'm asking how can you be sure about, is IF YOU ARE missing details from the game, like, say you missed gamma being an odd-day DVer, because you missed it, you don't know if you missed it, it's simply not in your analysis

to you your picture looks 95% filled or something like that, but in reality, it's 80% because you are missing things

and you can't 'be sure' if if you missed something

like...it's not hard to comprehend and I don't get your malfunction and again, I resolve to scum just fucking shit around

[drealmerz7]

is that what that even is?

I was figuring that for more of a "willing to lynch" list and he's dwindling it down, uncrosses out as necessary

maybe I am wrong of course

[drealmerz7]

creature do you have any thoughts on The DEO slot?

[drealmerz7]

how the fuck does the setup-spec make sense with town having multiple kill utility and scum don't get a N1 ???

that would lean me to thinking that the double-voter would be more likely scum-aligned

[drealmerz7]

it certainly leands towards scum being more likely to be BP though (which is already the general, as standard)

[drealmerz7]

stated

[drealmerz7]

no, he's just trying to get you to play

[drealmerz7]

I'm leaning towards creature being 3p but ...
OHHH, question for mod:

Setup Information:

1) The setup is confirmed as having 11 Town-Aligned players and 3 Scum-Aligned players. The 15th player's alignment may be {Town, Scum, Serial Killer}. Traitors and similar count as scum.

@mod - does a neutral survivor, or non-killing 3rd party role count as "scum" ?

[drealmerz7]

you calling the votes on FA a "wagon" is an exaggeration, unless I have my count wrong

[drealmerz7]

on my HS anything not town is called "scum" and then it breaks down to more specifics: wolf/mafia or any 3rd party

[drealmerz7]

hence my desire for clarification is all, letting you understand why I asked the question (not pushing the issue)

[drealmerz7]

you aren't reading what I'm saying, math

any 3p is scum where I come from, kill utility or not, so I was looking for clarification from the mod

which they haven't actually given, I'm inclined to believe that is not how it is here given the way the rules are stated, but it doesn't hurt to check and you painting me as "not town" for looking for clarification is shitty as fuck

is my vote on you? it should be

VOTE: scum

oops

VOTE: deo

[drealmerz7]

there is no talking you to, DEO, I tried, you refuse to even try to see my point - YES, I was asking for clarification, just because you want to paint it as something else and can delude yourself into believing whatever the fuck you want to believe about whatever you want so that you seem super-smart and in control and whatever else, is not my fucking problem

you've been doing it the whole game, you aren't trying to sort me, you're decided on me and keep trying to paint everything to match that

you know what that is called, right?

your slot can go die, seriously, you have done nothing for the gamestate except push wild agendas that you are desperate to have people agree with - I don't even read your posts for the most part any more because it is useless trash - pretty sure you're scum just being a scumshit and I'm ready to move on

[drealmerz7]

I've never seen someone whine so much about having a vote on them either

[drealmerz7]

I'm not on a dumbtunnel and I am in no way insistent on shooting you so relax

[drealmerz7]

apathy is pro scum?

ummm, no, apathy is Days that go on too long, scum or town

postie are you a lyncher?

[drealmerz7]

town or scum-aligned lyncher? cause it's a RC game?

I just feel a bit of obsession there

postie, no 2nd choice?

[drealmerz7]

ok let's do this shit, whatever

he could be scum and my reads have been shit

VOTE: zefiend

[drealmerz7]

I'm here, reading catching up and I see the DEO is dead

I didn't kill them in case anyone is wondering / to get that out of the way ASAP

*reads*

[drealmerz7]

drealmerz where's your shot?

still in my pocket

[drealmerz7]

... neighbor with drealmerz and zef (who zero posted in the hood, and was never acknowledged as being there until RC stated that zef could no longer post because he's dead).

confirmed... we never knew he was there...whacked (my paranoia is there for a reason!)

[drealmerz7]

There's also the fact that drealmerz and smith both thought someone else was able to see the hood and I have no idea why they'd think that without one of them knowing it for sure and planting the idea.

I said it first and what made me say it was the simple fact that there was no player-list at the start of the hood - I have limited experience with hoods (more limited at start of the game when I first entered it) and every one I had been a part of listed the members of the hood in the 1st post / in the PM from the mod - this one did not so I was immediately suspicious

[drealmerz7]

drealmerz where's your shot?

still in my pocket

Why?

because we have a good number of players left and 1 scum and I thought tempered action was better

I also thought I could be the NK and didn't want to missfire and get 2 dead townies overNight, best to hold on to it I thought

by N6 if we are still going it will be much more useful, imo

[drealmerz7]

I want boosted!

[drealmerz7]

btw hammering scum like that was kind of fun

can I do it again?

[drealmerz7]

RC - you notified us that zefiend could no longer talk in the thread...was he still able to view it?

(I didn't think about that...)

[drealmerz7]

in the HOOOD thread

[drealmerz7]

KC seems like the lynch for today

[drealmerz7]

but I'll let you all be in charge of forming a wagon becaus apparently my reads sucks buttchunks this game

[drealmerz7]

wait I read RM slot correctly!!! GEE I SHOULD GET A MEDAL *sarcasm*

[drealmerz7]

GIVE ME SEVEN VIG SHOTS, I WILL WIN THE GAME

[drealmerz7]

ehh

sorry

it's been a day

or has it been two days?

I'm a little spastic

[drealmerz7]

why would there be 2 scum in a hood with 3 people?

I guess because I'm harry houdini and I can escape ANYTHING

[drealmerz7]

VOTE: klingoncelt

[drealmerz7]

I'm pretty sure that it is group scum and not SK that is left

too much power in town vs. what we've seen in the scumflips to not have it be 4party team, imo

[drealmerz7]

why would there be 2 scum in a hood with 3 people?

I guess because I'm harry houdini and I can escape ANYTHING

I mean, why

wouldn't

there be two scum in a 3p hood? There's two hoods. If we could just assume there was only ever one scum in a hood then that would potentially leave us with 4 confirmed townies if the scum died first.

ok

[drealmerz7]

drealmz when can you shoot again?

N6

UNLESS YOU BOOST ME AND SOMETHING AWESOME HAPPENS

[drealmerz7]

smith is my 3rd strongest TR btw

[drealmerz7]

smith is my 3rd strongest TR btw

Why?

I read a lot by tone/feel/gut/behavior of the players - he seems totally genuine, matter-of-fact, unphased because he has nothing to hide, town-intentioned

his hood interaction has been good, he's not buddyed me at all just talks to me like a player with no agenda other than to figure things out - I've felt trust towards him for a while and it waned a little there but once zefiend was outed as having been in the hood it all has fallen into place and maybe I should even him as 2nd TR for how I feel about trusting what he's saying / feel good about how he's doing this most recent interaction too

[drealmerz7]

he might not have been able to talk D1 in hood?

does the flip say I forget?

[drealmerz7]

righto

[drealmerz7]

NOT pushing lynches on scum isn't really AI, it's just not having strong scumreads to push or being as confident as some other players, which is fine/understandable

you and postie are my top TRs, FA is definitely not

[drealmerz7]

+not having correct reads was supposed to go with that top part

[drealmerz7]

ohpls

I was just heading off for the night

am beat

being SK makes no sense in so many ways though

[drealmerz7]

my job wasn't anything but to do what I thought was best for town, btw

[drealmerz7]

all I remember is him saying something about what he saw with lycan making more sense (after I claimed my shot on him), but I couldn't tell anything from it it just caught me as a hint at some sort of ability, obviously - I didn't ask more about it as I like to stay away from role-talk and had no interest in fishing him - him saying that made me lean towards trusting him more and I've liked the forming of trust we've had in the hood / it feels very much town, and now that we know zefiend was in there I'm pretty sure he was just farming the hood for information because he noticed that that was going to happen - I can't see them both being scum at all

[drealmerz7]

and zefiend is sitting there going

"ok scumbuds, this is what is up:"

[drealmerz7]

the paranoia I have about being setup is not wrong

it was just misplaced

[drealmerz7]

scum-gave-up-replacer

how interesting!

[drealmerz7]

*activity*

[drealmerz7]

me? ):

[drealmerz7]

yeah when someone replaces in to 180+ pages, you have to give them a few days at least, if there is tha tmuch on the clock

and there is so, keep it in your pants?

[drealmerz7]

IT'S NOT!!

haha

[drealmerz7]

*hugs*

[drealmerz7]

wtf would scum have a track / flavor cop or whatever all he is?

[drealmerz7]

you

[drealmerz7]

egh

it just makes zero sense to me, I mean forget his role, he's just fucking really towny

maybe it's because I'm in the hood with him? he doesn't sound like a scumbutt AT ALL and I am really good at reading tone and behavior...

my reads are shit this game I know, but, geebuz, I can't believe it

or really vote him in good conscience

[drealmerz7]

meh I think you have ninja, alisae

I don't know who else would be scum

FA maybe?

[drealmerz7]

I was wondering if there were only townies left, but, the kill confirms not

[drealmerz7]

smith have you been pocketing me this whole time?

[drealmerz7]

ugh

[drealmerz7]

I'd appreciate the answers, JR, I'm really not convinced of him and your attitude is not helping me sort it

[drealmerz7]

RL stuff going on I can't really focus on mafia though I might be around to try and have it distract me

[drealmerz7]

what I can do makes sense with my flavor

[drealmerz7]

I'm powerful!

[drealmerz7]

but I'm not...

[drealmerz7]

where are all my kills?!

[drealmerz7]

if I were SK you all would be decimated by now

[drealmerz7]

and why would I kill POSTIE?!?

[drealmerz7]

shoot you FA? why??!?!?

and doesn't that just tell scum to also kill you to set me up for the ML tomorrow?~! why would you say that?!?!!

[drealmerz7]

smith being tracker makes sense for there to be ninja

[drealmerz7]

ugh

I'm seriously not and you pushing that is scummy

and I think you telling me to shoot you is really scummy, like, you know how I feel about being told who to shoot/what to do with abilities (pretty sure you do)

I get the feeling you told me to shoot you to try and guarantee you DON'T get shot

[drealmerz7]

VOTE: Frozen Angel

[drealmerz7]

maybe she is BP

[drealmerz7]

I'm not "nervous about shooting her"

is dislike announcing targets because I think it allows scum to maneuver/manipulate things

[drealmerz7]

exactly
set me up for a ML because everyone is going to think I'm SK if FA is the only death

[drealmerz7]

that's all they need to do

[drealmerz7]

are you all going to NOT jump for my lynch tomorrow if there's only 1 kill on N6???

I'm saying if you're not scum

[drealmerz7]

nah the vote was testing waters

UNVOTE: FA

[drealmerz7]

and I'm allowed to theorize about things without being absolutely sure

[drealmerz7]

What is the motivation for town me to ask you to shoot me?

why should I - as town - frame you?

quit twisting shit

I'm saying if you're town, scum would shoot you and I would shoot oyu, and frame me

omfg don't start with this twisting shit it is not hard to understand that fucking concept and you know it

[drealmerz7]

FA, I'm going to get really fucking angry really fucking fast if you don't fucking pay attention, okay???

don't put words in my mouth

don't fucking make assumptions ab out ANY FUCKING ACTIONS

nothing is written in fucking stone

we're talking about different possibilities

you undestand that right?

yes, you do

so, no, I didn't say I'm not going to shoot you because...

I'm telling you why I don't think it makes fucking sense

WHAT THE FUCK IS SO FUCKING HARD TO UNDERSTAND??

and I'm back to my SR on you

[drealmerz7]

doesn't make sense "to advertise outloud to shoot you"

[drealmerz7]

MHS one last time your result on alisae is that she didn't visit anyone

yes?

seriously what the fuck is this shit

he's answered this multiple times already

what is your fucking deal?!

[drealmerz7]

because serial killer makes no sense for the setup given the flipped scum and flipped town power roles

because, as pointed out, town is relatively weak-seeming, but my role is actually kind of powerful, it's town balance for sure (even with the negative utility, there is positive utility to balance it)

because I would not have killed POSTIE, because there would be MORE KILLS

because LAMIST all over the fucking place

[drealmerz7]

my food is ready

I've claimed already, FA

[drealmerz7]

and you say you have been following and checked and have "all the little pieces" and you KNOW you haven't missed anything sooo, you should have it already and I shouldn't have to fucking repeat myself

[drealmerz7]

OMG FA, if these matter to you

WRITE THEM DOWN WHEN THEY HAPPEN

this filling the thread with repeating shit over and over and over that has already been established is fucking ridiculous

[drealmerz7]

you seem to be unaware of my positive utility though...is that inaccurate?

[drealmerz7]

uhhh, no

that is not how teamwork works AT ALL

you are not dictator of what happens

are you or are you not aware of my positive utility and what it is? LAST CHANCE ANSWER IN YOUR NEXT POST

[drealmerz7]

food getting cold

[drealmerz7]

I love that movie

I've seen it so many times, it's not like it's great, but, it actually is pretty great

it's the production I think, and how the NAIL the fucking characters and atmosphere, the baddies are the fucking best

KANE, Shang Tsung - the fucking BEST

[drealmerz7]

cool

I should make a video-game themed game...hmm....I have like 5 other themes in the works but, ya, I will do taht methinks

[drealmerz7]

who I figure is most likely scum at top, down to least likely at bottom

creature - at this point this might be the right lynch for this Day. He's been super-lurking almost the entire game with hardly any (and certainly no recent) good efforts to get involved and help game solve. If he's 3p scum, how long are we going to let him linger around while we all spin on our heals and he stays out of focus

alisae - this slot has gotten by a lot of the game by being called town by The DEO and not having to do much else. Yes, there's a good amount of participation in the thread now that alisae has taken it over as opposed to gamma's lurkness, but a lot of that participation is fillerfluff and what I see as positioning himself in regards to other players. I find a lot of his theorizing to be rather empty, like he doesn't actually believe what they're coming up with could be true at all and they're only trying to come up with stuff that 'sounds good.'

FA - could totally be scum and almost want to put this slot above alisae - really seems to me like they're trying to control what every single player thinks and bully their view on to everyone because SHE KNOWS BEST, but then she's not writing anything down or taking accurate notes so she can conveniently "whoops I forgot that detail in my analysis it changes everything!" Like if this is truly her town game I don't know why she's so highly regarded as a game solver AT ALL. Seems more likely scum-motivated to be how they are than teamtown oriented.

---
JR - while I get pings here and there I'm still quite confident this is town

smith - I've seriously gotten almost no pings from this slot the whole game since smith took it over - everything seems genuine and in the interest of town. Why on earth would he slip info about his abilities as scum (after the lycan kill and his vague report to me in the hood on what he "saw") Further, if I were scum, I would have killed him because of his utility and my being aware of it BEFORE it was made publicly aware that he shared something in the hood like that.

[drealmerz7]

what the point of that scum utility?

it's what I call mod-WIFOM, so players don't get lynched based on claim/utility alone

[drealmerz7]

he is a limited vig (can only shoot in odd nights) by his claim

we never had the extra kill yet

what the fuck is this shit???

like seriously, FA, give up playing mafia if you're town

[drealmerz7]

how can I shoot you if I'm odd night?????

oh wait, I'm not oddnight, I'm even, so, like, again, seriously wtf?

[drealmerz7]

I'm definitely shooting you if you're not the lynch, btw

[drealmerz7]

I'm a town and I'm halfway thereto decide the game. Your giving reads TO ME - except I keep making mistakes about shit, forgetting things, and being overall HORRIBLETOWN if I'm actually trying to gamesolve for town because my ego is SO FUCKING INFLATED I THINK I'M THE AWESOMEST PLAYER OF ALL TIME AND YOU MUST ALLLLLLL THINK THE SAME FUCKING THING!!!!

[drealmerz7]

team game

we're solving this together

go fuck yourself and your ego, FA, it needs to die

[drealmerz7]

and you troll instead of concede that I'M RIGHT

[drealmerz7]

why you didn't shoot? Team play?

yes I didn't want to kill another townie after realizing my reads have been shit all game, I figured another Day for sorting was the responsible move - I don't play the way you play and I'm not going to conform to that way of playing as I think it is horrible shit - you don't just kill someone to confirm yourself, that is, just awful reckless stupid badbadbadplay

fuck off, FA, you got my readslist FFS

go choke on a dick

[drealmerz7]

you really shouldn't be playing a COOPERATIVE TEAM-BASED game if this is how you play as town, btw

[drealmerz7]

and yes you definitly will shoot the scummy/lurker slots using two scum flipps at night to confirm yourself and remove scummy slots for town clarity as town vig

The fact there are no other kills that night just points at you being scum.

that just shows me how shitty of a player you are

[drealmerz7]

I don't even know how I became a scum candidate again.

you've done practically nothing the whole game - at this point I want your lynch because you could simply be scum-lurker coasting by and now is the time to remove those options from the game

[drealmerz7]

it's not about meta, it's about how I'm reading you in your slot in this game

definitely likely a scumlurker at this point

[drealmerz7]

or creature

but make a case about how in this setup two falvor cops are town and put all the peaces together cause apperently your good at setup spec by your claim

You have all the details. which one of the two are scum

if you think alisae is scum tell why you think the follower result is not accurate or if its accurate explain how he can be scum without mhs

modWIFOM - RC is the mod

to assume alignment based on role is naive and reckless

alisae could have ninja

it's fucking really easy

[drealmerz7]

those arguing "couldn't have ninja, he's a slaking!" are fucking naive and reckless, again, modWIFOM

I'm Harry Houdini - he was not a vigilante killer

The Sun - can't speak, he should be mute the entire game, but he's not!!!

like, seriously, fucking stupid to use flavor to explain shit in this game

[drealmerz7]

or rather to assume flavor will account for EVERYTHING, is dumb

[drealmerz7]

FA, I'm done with you, you're only going to accept what you want to hear and disregard/devalue/dismiss anything you don't want to hear

[drealmerz7]

it's fucking shit play if you're town and you really really REALLY need to get over yourself

[drealmerz7]

VOTE: frozen angel

[drealmerz7]

"I want to hear your thoughts, but only if they jive with mine, otherwise shut the fuck up"

this is what you're saying

it's AWFUL

[drealmerz7]

no you're not!!!! what a fucking laugh!!!! just because you say you are doesn't change the reality of what EVERYONE CAN SEE IN FRONT OF THEM

quick, FA, what is my positive utility!?

TELL IN YOUR NEXT POST

[drealmerz7]

voting you means you're my top scumread and I want you lynched

learn to play the game

[drealmerz7]

you constructing a narrative to fit your agenda is only how you play the game IF YOU'RE SCUM

and that is what you're doing

hence my vote on you

it's simple

[drealmerz7]

you're so wrong, though

but you refuse to accept it

reckless

[drealmerz7]

the loss will be on your ignorance and closemindedness

[drealmerz7]

of course you're going to tell yourself that

your ego can't handle the truth

[drealmerz7]

You can't beleive I'm responsible for a town loss if I'm your top scumread

obviously the stipulation is "if you're town"

DUHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

[drealmerz7]

I almost SAID THAT in the comment, but, it's OBVIOUSLY HOW IT'D BE

like, seriously...duuuhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

[drealmerz7]

yes, I'm BP (goes along with my D2 lynchproof death-defying stuff)

not the sort of thing I EVER really care to claim, obviously

[drealmerz7]

wow, what an argument!

[drealmerz7]

and horrible scum-bluff with the self-vote that you quickly removed

c'mon folks, don't let the ego of FA scare you away from their lynch

[drealmerz7]

clearly my SR on them is genuine - if they're the last scum I don't have to give a fuck about getting bombed and that they're trying to use the fear of me getting bombed is even more telling

[drealmerz7]

why would I claim BP? I've been hoping to absorb a NK, and it is POSSIBLE I ALREADY DID

[drealmerz7]

when everyone was trying to figure out about the NKs I didn't want to reveal my BP because I have no way to know if scum picked the same target as me, or picked me as their target, but Iplay on likelihoods and find it likely they were trying to frame me by also shooting lycan, which means I still have it

[drealmerz7]

no I claimed it to him today when we were discussing mass-claim

[drealmerz7]

way to try and write the narrative and push your agenda before having all the facts though

very scummy

[drealmerz7]

he also told me I should probably out it to everyone, or that he likely would

I held on to it to see how it all went

[drealmerz7]

I still think groupscum makes more sense than SK remaining

weak-ass scumteam if only those 3

[drealmerz7]

that scumteam with FAs role makes sense

[drealmerz7]

especially given the no N1

it gives them that missing kill

[drealmerz7]

geeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

it got AWFULLY QUIET

[drealmerz7]

lol

this is the response of someone who can't refute the absolute truth

[drealmerz7]

geeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
it got AWFULLY QUIET

Well I'm at work so (as usual) don't expect much from me during normal working hours.

I was referring to FA, who's been running at the mouth up until that point

[drealmerz7]

what does zefiend have to do with anything? I fucking hammered him...

[drealmerz7]

the kills make ZERO SENSE to come frmo me

I'd have kept postie in the game

I'd have kept The DEO in the game

I'd have killed FA and alisae

[drealmerz7]

except you are applying how YOU PLAY THE GAME to how you think I would

[drealmerz7]

obviously, no, that's not what I'd do, because, HEY, I'm town!

[drealmerz7]

uhhh, no

seriously not the only way to play

I tried envisioning you coming to my HS and trying to play how you plya - you'd get ripped to shreds, seriously, how you play is horribly naive

[drealmerz7]

that you even think that there's one way to play is fucking ludicrous

[drealmerz7]

I was off making lunch, and then off in another minute to eat it

why is BP something that there can't be 2 of that would make me raise my eyebrows at all

[drealmerz7]

and it makes ZERO FUCKING SENSE to me to go "omg a player claimed BP and I'm BP, let me CC that!!!"

that seems DUMB

[drealmerz7]

that doesn't answer my concern

geebuz, do you even try to put yourself in the mind of other players EVER?!

[drealmerz7]

AND you've not answered a single fucking 1 of my points

deflect deflect dismiss ignore

address some of my points please, about # of kills, kill choices, and some other points I'll probably have to go back and hashup at this point that you feel like you don't have to address because you are THE ULTIMATE GODDESS OF MAFIA AND ALL MUST ANSWER AND BOW TO YOU

[drealmerz7]

how DARE anyone question frozen angel!!!

[drealmerz7]

Any one can question me wth actual questions. You discrediting my ego is not a question

where are the other kills?
why does that 3man scum team make sense? isn't it weak
why would I kill postie?
there were others that yes you have ignored and I'm tired of dealing with you because you are really fucking closed and only want to see what you want to see

[drealmerz7]

You killed the same person mafia killed in first try

The game setup is confirmed 3 mafia + 1 traitor/1sk

WRONG

[drealmerz7]

you're stuck in so much confbias, combined with your ego

there's no talking to you

[drealmerz7]

oh wait

you're just scum

[drealmerz7]

no you're not my only SR...holy fuck you don't read anything anyone says, do you?

[drealmerz7]

you just take the parts that suit you and ignore the parts that don't fit your narrative and bullyhead forth with that shit

does that usually work for you?

[drealmerz7]

you're making a shitload of generalizations based on how YOU THINK PEOPLE PLAY

you're absolutely CLOSED to hearing anything else the narrative that suits your push

done

with

you

[drealmerz7]

I made a case on you holy fuck you are horrible go away

[drealmerz7]

"""realizes smith isn't as an easy mis-lynch as she wanted, decides to write different narrative and try to go for another"""

[drealmerz7]

I'm going to watch a movie

look, I'm really town, if FA is town then I am going to go with alisae as the next likely? they seem to just be happy with whatever lynch that doesn't make them look suspect (me+smith) as well as previous points made

[drealmerz7]

flavor doesn't account for everything, I rephrased to be more articulate about that point even

you can't say "RC wouldn't give alisae ninja as scum because he's a slaking" - yes, a lot of the flavor makes sense, but a it doesn't all account for all, it's just going to get you in trouble

[drealmerz7]

...I shot alisae...

VOTE: alisae

[drealmerz7]

I guess I missed the mod announcement revealing your alignment?

[drealmerz7]

you really need to learn terminology

that is not conftown

that is you with a ninja ability

[drealmerz7]

nice try though

you've been doing pretty well, but, it's obvi-clear now

[drealmerz7]

there's nothing to "push"

it's clear since I shot you and you didn't die that you've lied about your role

I targeted the right target, just wasn't figuring you'd have BP too, though I guess it makes sense with 2 neg. utility town PRs

[drealmerz7]

you're clearly happy killing ANYONE at the end of yesterday

smith, me, FA, you're on board!

[drealmerz7]

you killed creature

[drealmerz7]

duh

[drealmerz7]

that is just you saying words because you think they sound good

you aren't arguing anything or making points or counterpoints or explaining anything

[drealmerz7]

I'd prefer you to continue to engage me so I can continue to expose you

[drealmerz7]

your hesitance is understandable though

you didn't think I was going to shoot you, did you? who'd you think I was going to shoot?

[drealmerz7]

(that's a rhetorical question, obviously)

[drealmerz7]

and you keep trying to push that SK angle, but really

SK makes no sense in this setup

town would be too powerful, scumteam would be too unmatched, and the roles don't make sense otherwise

it has to be a scumteam of 4 and you're their ninja to bypass smith's follow

[drealmerz7]

let me know if there's anything you want from me, JR

[drealmerz7]

it was actually hard coming up with that order and I even almost put "in no particular order" as a disclaimer instead but I really wanted to try and figure out an order (for myself first of all, to be more helpful 2nd of all) - as you see I even say shortly after that that I could have put FA above alisae

clearly things changed after the EoD

creature was the top then because I was allowing the rest of the group's seeming mentality that the last scum was SK to cloud me at the time (which is that SK doesn't make sense it's much more likely 4groupscum - a point I had tried to pursue previously and then got no real discourse from anyone about I felt) - creature only makes sense if SK and SK doesn't make sense, he is not scum-lurking SK he's actually what he says he is, disinterested/unenthused towny

when I read how EoD went down I came to my senses and it was obviously clear, alisae just wanted whoever he could get lynched lynched (with no fear of recourse from FA so not really caring who went where how with what sort of death, lynch, bomb, vig.shot) and the waffle I've had on that slot the entire game was no longer a waffle at all, waffle demolished, remaining scum clear, so I shot him