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Post Post #6475 (ISO) » Sat Jan 28, 2017 10:38 am

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go ahead

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Post Post #6476 (ISO) » Sat Jan 28, 2017 10:42 am

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Looking at this post on gerry's innocence. Actually, it's quite convincing. gerry's interactions with Maria don't feel like scum-on-scum action. Uzi, less so.
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Post Post #6477 (ISO) » Sat Jan 28, 2017 10:43 am

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In post 6470, Dunnstral wrote:
In post 6466, Fishythefish wrote:
In post 6448, Maxous wrote:@fishy: i don't see your cards argument...who is left in the game that has pro-scum cards?
By "card information", I meant cards and their resulting actions. Many people in the game have taken some pretty protown actions (Dunn, Vecna) and/or attempted to take cards that make more sense for town (Dunn, you, drealmer, Grey). This figures quite heavily in my reads.
In post 6450, Dunnstral wrote:I'm strongly considering that if gerry is town, it might be fishy as scum
Why?
Just a feeling... and what you're pushing right now

and a bit of poe
OK. If you work out where that feeling comes from, I'd like to know. I think I've played a pretty damn town game in just about every way.

What am I pushing right now, and why is it scummy?
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Post Post #6478 (ISO) » Sat Jan 28, 2017 10:44 am

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In post 6473, Maxous wrote:yeah but that's 7 out of 8 players
at least one of them has to be scum so the cards thing will only go so far.

:shrug:
Oh, sure. Some of these are much stronger than others, though. Particularly, Dunn's actions and taking the king of diamonds are very much better for town than scum.
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Post Post #6479 (ISO) » Sat Jan 28, 2017 10:45 am

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In post 6477, Fishythefish wrote:
In post 6470, Dunnstral wrote:
In post 6466, Fishythefish wrote:
In post 6448, Maxous wrote:@fishy: i don't see your cards argument...who is left in the game that has pro-scum cards?
By "card information", I meant cards and their resulting actions. Many people in the game have taken some pretty protown actions (Dunn, Vecna) and/or attempted to take cards that make more sense for town (Dunn, you, drealmer, Grey). This figures quite heavily in my reads.
In post 6450, Dunnstral wrote:I'm strongly considering that if gerry is town, it might be fishy as scum
Why?
Just a feeling... and what you're pushing right now

and a bit of poe
OK. If you work out where that feeling comes from, I'd like to know. I think I've played a pretty damn town game in just about every way.

What am I pushing right now, and why is it scummy?
Didn't you say we need to solve the gerry me thing now, but you thought we were both town? :neutral:

WHo do you think is scum, if we are both town?
I had town feelings on drealmerz too
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Post Post #6480 (ISO) » Sat Jan 28, 2017 11:03 am

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Yeah. You were death-tunnelled on each other, and we can't have deathtunnelling in LYLO - do you disagree? If you've stopped that, that's great.

My reads kind of go from super-town to mildly-town at the moment. If there was a slot I knew nothing about, I'd gladly PoE lynch it. My rough ordering is:

Super-town

drealmer, Vecna

Town

Dunn, Grey, TWIE

Mildly town, which I guess means scum

gerry, Max

I'm not feeling very inspired by any of that, though. The problem is, a PoEish lynch doesn't tell you much if you get it wrong.
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Post Post #6481 (ISO) » Sat Jan 28, 2017 11:11 am

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lol fishy. im done here.

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Post Post #6482 (ISO) » Sat Jan 28, 2017 11:11 am

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i already proved why ic ant be maf with either of those, but im done here now
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Post Post #6483 (ISO) » Sat Jan 28, 2017 12:16 pm

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Gerry's still tunneled so we lose

From poe it might just be TWIE bussing.
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Post Post #6484 (ISO) » Sat Jan 28, 2017 3:14 pm

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In post 6446, Maxous wrote:yeah, i think i'll be voting Grey after Dunnstral tbh.
Sure, vote the guy that's been screaming for Dunnstral's head... after lynching Dunnstral.

That makes all kinds of sense.
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Post Post #6485 (ISO) » Sat Jan 28, 2017 3:15 pm

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In post 6456, gerryoat wrote:I'm still 90% sure you're maf!!!!
Duh.
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Post Post #6486 (ISO) » Sat Jan 28, 2017 3:19 pm

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I'm thinking the Scum is Dunnstral and Maxous.
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Post Post #6487 (ISO) » Sat Jan 28, 2017 4:49 pm

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yeah ^

the 2 I'm most comfortable lynching currently are dunnstral and maxous, comfort not necessarily in that order

and I really think fishy has to be town - if we win this he is one of THE top responsible people for the win, imo - no way he is scum

fishy, help me weigh some things re: dunnstral (the rest of you toss these thoughts around in your head too)

he does the pro-town cardpicking, reviving, all previously mentioned stuff that makes you think he has to be town and does exactly as he did to get to where he is now (and he's scum) - do you think he thinks he is "sitting pretty" right now enough that he doesn't need to try and look like he's solving the game (because he doesn't so much, yes, moreso recently, but, it's been notably lacking imo for where we are in the gamestate) - what
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his frame of mind? is his scumbuddy is so deep he doesn't really care that he's under fire?

do you think (again if he's scum having done those things) the value in having done those things as scum is MORE /has more payoff (having led to us all to this actual gamestate), or do you think there would be higher value for scum (netting in a better position for scum than they are in currently, which granted is hard to determine not knowing who they are, but theorizing that he is one of them) if he hadn't done those things as he did them? am I making sense? (lots of thoughts running around and sometimes for my brain it is hard to pull out the singles and articulate them well - I can tend to go in circles/repeat or be overwordy

otherwise dunnstral is just towny at a loss and not trying so hard, which is also quite believable, but, I'm still leaning more likely scum, with what is "out there"

grey and TWIE are still options as scum but right now they are both part of the "having nailed down scum and gotten us to 2 left" duo - I don't think they'd BOTH be scum having gone that route - if I had to pick one as scum I don't know who I'd pick, I guess grey based on most recent play (but he wants to lynch maxous+dunnstral like I do...sooo...?)

vecna - I just don't see it, again, one of the top players responsible for a town win if town wins

scum is in: maxous/dunnstral/grey/TWIE pretty sure with gerry as an out-lyer possibility that I'm still "sitting with"
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Post Post #6488 (ISO) » Sat Jan 28, 2017 4:53 pm

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I think I'd prefer to lynchbait Maxous before Dunnstral because of 6446, tbh.

No way does town support the lynch of their scumread like that. If I was so scummy to him, Dunnstral should be the last person he'd want lynched.
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Post Post #6489 (ISO) » Sat Jan 28, 2017 4:54 pm

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In post 6488, -Grey- wrote:I think I'd prefer to lynch Maxous before Dunnstral because of 6446, tbh.

No way does town support the lynch of their scumread like that. If I was so scummy to him, Dunnstral should be the last person he'd want lynched.
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Post Post #6490 (ISO) » Sat Jan 28, 2017 5:11 pm

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would lynch Dunn and Grey. Maybe max
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Post Post #6491 (ISO) » Sat Jan 28, 2017 5:36 pm

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my mind is pretty resolved to dunnstral as my first choice but want to hear from fishy again
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Post Post #6492 (ISO) » Sat Jan 28, 2017 8:56 pm

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In post 6484, -Grey- wrote:
In post 6446, Maxous wrote:yeah, i think i'll be voting Grey after Dunnstral tbh.
Sure, vote the guy that's been screaming for Dunnstral's head... after lynching Dunnstral.

That makes all kinds of sense.
In post 6486, -Grey- wrote:I'm thinking the Scum is Dunnstral and Maxous.
a) you haven't
b) i've been vocally anti-Dunnstral since the Davesaz kill so if you think i'm scum with Dunn that defence doesn't roll anyway
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Post Post #6493 (ISO) » Sat Jan 28, 2017 9:15 pm

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I'm really trying to squint and see if I can see this as scum-gerry and it is hard but I can maybe see it ?

phewww...I dunno...
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Post Post #6494 (ISO) » Sat Jan 28, 2017 9:20 pm

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Meh.
I think Gerry is a cop-out option personally.
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Post Post #6495 (ISO) » Sat Jan 28, 2017 9:28 pm

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No way should Gerry be lynched over Dunnstral.
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Post Post #6496 (ISO) » Sat Jan 28, 2017 9:51 pm

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In post 6494, Maxous wrote:Meh.
I think Gerry is a cop-out option personally.
The easy lynch
Nothing easy about it

Also funny, since you're pushing me
-Grey- wrote:No way should Gerry be lynched over Dunnstral.
are you scum
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Post Post #6497 (ISO) » Sat Jan 28, 2017 9:54 pm

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In post 6496, Dunnstral wrote:are you scum
Dammit, you got me.

I succumb to your advanced sleuthing skills.
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Post Post #6498 (ISO) » Sat Jan 28, 2017 9:55 pm

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In post 6496, Dunnstral wrote:
In post 6494, Maxous wrote:Meh.
I think Gerry is a cop-out option personally.
The easy lynch
Nothing easy about it

Also funny, since you're pushing me
Why is it funny
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Post Post #6499 (ISO) » Sat Jan 28, 2017 10:07 pm

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I'm


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